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Yes

WE NEED AN UPDATE ON HIM ITS BEEN A YEAR !!

I agree, it's one of the saddest ones I've seen yet. 😪

This is why mental health and support services need to be improved. With the right support, this guy can live safely on his own, but intil he can get support, he's just left wallowing in everything, even with his cleaned out rooms.

Lies again? Trash Garbage Rubbish

He’s one I’d like to have an update on.

So true, though we don’t really have such a thing in US. If his county has a program for adult services that would put him in housing it may work.

A-men. Shielding him from the consequences has not had the desired effect. However, I feel the brother’s desire to find some way to help a clearly ill family member…

Agree, but he probably knows his brother will end up in jail and things will get worse for him, and I'm sure the thought is unbearable so he chooses to enable him. Enabling isn't helping, but I understand why his brother is doing it.

Absolutely agree Maybe he shouldn't live alone

Usually the hoarding is a symptom of a much larger issue, triggered by a major event in their lives. They do provide aftercare, how much and how long they don't say.

They usually appoint a payee for their SSI and place them in an adult foster care home. You can't hoard when you have no personal space whatsoever and no access to money to buy stuff.

@@christinebutler7630 This is wrong. There have been episodes where absolutely poor people have hoarded other people's home. Garbage is free on every street corner.

I think breathing in all that mold has done something

Probably true, as the longer term mental health support usually isn't provided for, and he's definitely not in a place to cope.

You'd think that, but they've found bums hiding in hoarders basements before.

​​@@angiecarle3041 this guy lives in the detroit metro though, there should be plenty of abandoned houses around

I have witnessed it on a professional level, during a cleanup we found a large coffee urn that held about five gallons, it had a hole busted in the side like it got knocked off a table, we asked if we could throw it away .. Answer was "NO, do you know how much that cost".

@@billytaylor6604 That reminds me if a gentleman on this show who owned a lot of land and had all sorts of scrap on his property. When they started with the easiest stuff, a bucket with holes in it, he, rightfully, pointed out, “You can use buckets for things other than water…that is still useable, I’m keeping it.” I couldn’t argue the logic of this, but the next question is, how many buckets of that sort does one person need?

I live with a hoarder. It can be infuriating. But I taught myself to just shrug and accept that adults make their own life choices. It's their life, or lack of it. Let them do what they want.

Insignificant to you perhaps, and although it may be exhausting think how it feels to them. People who hoard most often than not have a fear of loss of control in their life. It’s a mental illness that needs to be addressed before any progress can be made. They become attached to possessions not matter the value. Telling someone that you don’t agree with the value they hold in a object and how unsafe something may be is not the answer and will always yield the same result, which is to get defensive and most often aggressive.

​@@i_am_aladeen being an adult is NOT a matter of your age. There are so many people that never mature into adults, they are mentally children even in old age

Yes

Usually, I would not agree. I'm not sure if an institution is required, but he definitely needs to be out of there, and probably put on some meds, along with compulsory psychiatric help. That house is not safe, and he really needs someone to look out for him. If he made some progress after being removed from that situation, great. If not, and his mental state did not improve to the point where he could look after himself better, I would have to agree. At least in a sheltered accommodation complex. Being institutionalised is not always the long term answer. Sometimes living in a supported place for six months or so is enough. Institutions are not a happy place to be, and you are surrounded by people with much more severe behaviour. That can be so traumatic that suicide happens, or the person just gives up. Hardened criminals have said they prefer jail to permanent institutionalization, that's how bad it can be. I'm not sure if you've ever been in one, or had any real life experience in the mental health services area, but putting someone in an institution long term should be the last option considered, unless there is ongoing severe danger to themselves or others.

and the safety of others because huge fire hazard

Ain't even take me a minute lol 👌🏾

Institutionalized? Wtf that's like the worst thing you can do to someone. How about just get him a good doctor and get him the medication he needs. I think that would do this guy a lot... not lock him up just because they don't like the way he lives. And yes mental Institutions are pretty much like jail sometimes even worse.. I'm glad you're not in charge of making calls like that and that's why people have to go to school for years to be able to make the right calls and evalutions.

Exactly! They have called on people for less!

I know, these people are sicker than he is, like great now we can leave at the end of the day and go home to our mansions knowing he’s got that room. Gross.

@Nathalie F yeah! They call them on this show if the house can’t get cleaned enough but they didn’t here. Weirf

He would be safer a street person. Horrible to say… but, would the city not be required to tear his house down anyway? I’m confused on this show except to blame the show for trying to keep it’s ratings. He threw knives for heaven sakes.

@@dian621 that house should have been condemned. there is no reason they allowed him to stay in a house with that amount of dangerous structural damage

Agree! She has such lovely coloring. I’ve not noticed it before so perhaps it’s just a matter of lighting.

I think her lip stick might be too pinky purple. But I loveeeee her!! She’s my fav. And Dorothy.

@@edmonddantes367 I like her, too! But they had her makeup some odd yellowish tone just down to her neck and her neck is a pretty pinky peachy tone. You can see it clearest when she arrives at the house to go in but he surprises her by coming out at first and it looks like Ricky might not let her in. There’s a bit of monologue recorded later and that’s where it showed. Edited for clarity

@@Lucinda_Jackson girl totally agree. I’m a makeup artist. And it drives me crazy! She is so pretty. I just wish her makeup was more natural. Like just enhance her natural beauty. She’s awesome and beautiful. I just love her approach when dealing with people with mental issues.

@@edmonddantes367 Yes!!!!

In my opinion it would have to be a facility.

An asylum, you mean He is totally nuts.

I agree but if he was my brother I wouldn't want him to live with me if he throws knives when he's mad! I think some kind of a facility would be better. But even there there would be rules he'd have to follow and I wonder if he's capable of that.

He has the right of choice . Same as you do

This guy would destroy the lives of any relative he lived with. In a facility, he would be the kind of patient that nightmares are made of!!!

Of course! And very fast!

That's true unless he gets the kind of help he needs. Clean House was much more humane.

@@zonagale2200 Clean House didn't address hoarders.

Collecting books can be a great thing to do, but if they're stored the way these were, this sort of thing can happen. He probably started out fairly innocently collecting books, before something changed in his life to lead to it getting worse and them ending up in this condition.

Man, that was such a sibling moment. You could see the trigger getting pulled in that one interaction 😂😅

Same..I also watch 600 lb life while I do my daily workout!

I do the very same thing, with the deep cleaning. I already throw away things on a regular basis, so I really don't have anything to throw out, but you can guarantee I will find things to get rid of even if I have to look very hard for it. And the cleaning will go on for days & I only live in a 2 bedroom apartment by myself, so I am basically cleaning something that is already clean. I can't stand filth & I'm a neat freak, plus I organize everything so this show sends me into overdrive with cleaning & organizing. But I would rather be like I am than live like the hoarders do.

Me too 😆

Can I borrow your condition....minus the scratching?😀

@@Ujuani68 absolutely! Just started the storage room. Donated a bunch of comforters to one of the emergency animal clinics, they use them for the kennels there. Not only getting rid of stuff but sending it to those who can really use it.

All that mold is very dangerous, both to your airways, but it can also be dangerous for your brain!😰

It's whether it's fire, water, structural collapse, or disease.

Its detroit though, they have a lof of buildings like this

actually it holds an electrical cable... every piece of trash has its own purpose in hoarders perspective of view, my father is one of them, I silently trash 10 big bags every day from 1000sq basement... will take months but will make it to the end.

@@noobblet1996 has he figured out you're doing that?

Exactly

Dr. XYZ 😂😂 But yeah that’s exactly what I thought too. So dumb to bring the brother with as “back up” not a good start at alllllll

@@twilightskiesx She brought him with her in case Ricky turned violent. He was essentially a bodyguard for her. He's tall, broad, and imposing, like many bouncers. He could protect her in the event that Ricky became aggressive or violent with her.

I thought the same thing. The term "back up" I think had a negative effect. I know what she meant, but it came off awkward and didn't start things off well.

I know right and the way she tried to smile and make it all nicey nicey was ridiculous because Rick was having none of it he was just rolling his eyes at her. 😂😂😂

I doubt he needs more drugs?

I was thinking Ricky displayed BIpolar disorder & or schizophrenia. I lived with a lady that is bipolar with delusional tendencies & Ricky reminded me of her & how she acted & the things she did. I had to get away from her when some of the things she did left me feeling like my safety & my life were in jeopardy if I stayed with her or even maintained a friendship with her. So I cut her from my life for my own well being. Ricky reminded me of her

He's already done half of the job of tearing down the house anyway.

I felt it was hopeless...until the last few minutes where it sinks in that he loves his little clean space. It seemed to connect with him. Like he remembered and desired normalcy again. With time and help...he might have a shot.

@Cryptameria• thanks for your encouragement. I never expected to build up such a huge hoard after a few years of getting into the habit of holding on to old things. And soon objects began filling up my rooms, hall, kitchen and yard. Till today, none of my family and friends know of my hoarding except my wife who lives with me. Throwing away items for the first time was the most difficult and after a series of intense struggle, I've gotten rid of about 80% of the hoard. The remaining stuffs are now kept in an unused room and every now and then, I will inspect them and throw away anything that I can't see any potential use for anymore. It is said that only another hoarder can understand the emotional turmoil experienced by another hoarder.

Ich glaube, man kann besser loslassen, wenn man es spendet und weiß, dass es andere dringend brauchen können

I understand! I am proud to say I love my room now because I planned my new room and got a loft bed in my room(small room) and I now have a couch under my bed and lots and lots of new shelfs and I can lay on my floor and stretch my legs!! My dolls have new shelfs so they are organised and I am working on clearing my DVD shelf and I have a mini cinema under my bed because of a new projector and my room just feels and looks soo much better and I couldn't sit in my room comfortably or do anything because there was so much stuff! I actually wrapped presents in my new room for the first time in years ! 😁😁😁

@@brandenburg2388 That's incredible! Keep fighting the good fight and taking care of yourself 💕

Best of luck mate! You can get through this, you’ve already realised you have a problem and that’s already a major step towards recovery. I believe in you :)

I was thinking that too. I wonder if he even accepted any aftercare.

Same here. Also, listening to him cough makes me glad I quit smoking a year and a half ago.

@@Red-rl1xx Partly smoker’s cough and partly all the dirt, dust and mold he inhales constantly. His poor lungs!

@@Red-rl1xx Congrats on quitting! It took me so many tries, so I understand the struggle.

@@Red-rl1xx good for you 👏🙌I wish my daughter would stop.

There was a show on PBS back in the 80s and 90s, too

I kind of feel like a dome needs to be lowered over the top of it and lots of fire to destroy all the pathogens that are doubtless thriving in there

Just keep watching Hoarders. There are far worse places than Ricky's. And that's so sad to say. So sad

Shanna's house: 👁👄👁

@@kimberlypoole5325 I can only think of two that were actually worse than that: Shanna, and that couple that had the water coming up from the toilet and soaking the carpets... Every other that was terribly worse had the person get evicted (like that Chinese woman who had rooms so full she crawled to reach the living room).

How can differentiate between drug use and mental illness without testing? Any other clues you are seeing?

these are also symptoms of mania (BPD, schizophrenia and others)

Not necessarily. These are common symptoms for people with various mental conditions too. Correlation isn't causation.

No… a meth head would not have the wherewithal to keep up with all those books all those years. He has manic depression and maybe even schizophrenia.

And I see sadness and an emptiness he feels that he thinks only things can fill.

Be strong Ricky. You deserve to be happy.

Each State has different codes and laws. Also, DHS is a Federal agency...

@@Armistead_MacSkye DHS (Dept of Human Services) is a state agency. Department of Homeland Security is federal. I'm a Paramedic of 27 years. Department of Human Services (APS) Adult Protective services generally share the policies of all states safety and care of the adult population. Yeah, I know what I'm talking about. No need for uncorrecting me.

Yet, Britney Spears is kept prisoner 13 years...

Unlike most girls

@@coopermuccio4409 ??????

I think that's a totally accurate observation!

netflix’s?

@@meowthlova111 yes the company

@@mathieuleader8601 Rick and Morty is an Adult Swim property. And no, this guy is nothing like Rick.

@@VeganJustToAnnoyYou yeah

This was only 10 mins of the episode so I'm sure way more was shown in the full episode...might shed more light on what actually did happen.

You've never heard the saying 'hurt people, hurt people' ?

What family wants to have this nightmare brought into Thier own house?

Hes already been on drugs dude

The mold isn’t helping.

@@kimmybee8741--Mold and water from the roof leaking

My friend, non-hoarder, has been doing the hack and cough for 30 plus years.

Just the fire hazard from smoking is bad enough.

Maybe he should switch the menthols and open his bronchial tubes

So true, so true. The library is filled with books that we can check out to read & then return. Cutting out the need to buy & store them anywhere in our homes. Thus not creating a book hoard like Ricky had & so many others I've seen on Hoarders.

Stfu

@@Stephenortiz2 🤣

i hope you're having an optimistic day and getting lots of rewards because you're a nice person

La beast?

Thank you

😂😂

Agree...

Wasting his time help only works if you want it

What a compassionate solution 🤪🤨

It could be any one or a combination of many things: anxiety, depression, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

Based on the way he was left, with most of his hoard untouched, due to safety concerns, it's so much easier for him to fall back into it. With a lot of clips I see, the hoarder no longer has much of a reminder of the old stuff, which makes it less difficult to relapse. Ricky was given a few emptied rooms, whilst having so much access to everything that wasn't removed.

I can only guess he didn’t want anything like that mentioned. He seems to not want any of them there.

😄😄😄 I went back to the beginning. You're right!

You're right! Hoarders need time to adjust. That's their life all wrapped in piled &tied around them. They have other issues that has caused them to escape normal logic about"items" like others.

I hear you but sometimes you need tough love and a big push.

That is true, but as many local government authorities have found, the polite letter, lots of time and space, etc usually results in...nothing. He had years pre-show to change things himself in private, and while I agree the false 3-day time pressure is for drama and problematic, the people are aware of it before they agree to participate.

@@bigb853, not in matters like this.

Uhhh, like all the time where his brother has been paying his fines? Stop enabling this behaviour. People have to do things they don't want to. You can't consent to putting yourself in danger. You have to wear a seatbelt in a car. No one cares about your fee-fees.

What has that to do with society? They offered help, he refused, Are you d*mb?

Why blame society for everything? We don’t have personal responsibility?

@@nicoles8176 because people deserve help . Ofcourse we have personal responsibility but then we have people like this poor man. Do we expect him to maintain the same level of personal responsibility even though clearly he cannot. But we still judge him to be as able as everyone else.

@@tomas572 yes I clearly am dumb. 👍

@@he_is_a_GOOBER_dont_disrespect you sound like an enabling, internet sociologist/ therapist 😐