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[HoI4] 1945 United States VS 1936 World 

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HoI4 AI-only scenario depicting the giant that was the 1945 USA Army, Navy and Airforce --- put up against the entire pre-WW2 world in 1936.
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@LordofIsleofTritone
@LordofIsleofTritone 3 года назад
Going after Asia was a bad choice yeah, but they didn't even try any other continent either, they committed everything to that front.
@LordDaret
@LordDaret 3 года назад
At one point they could have used the Asia front as a distraction to navel invade Europe and basically sandwich the world’s armies in a high attrition zone with no production, but US over committed.
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 года назад
@@LordDaret Its an AI after all. I'm sure if US was a human player it would've won.
@sihirdalizim8558
@sihirdalizim8558 3 года назад
btw that ussr managed to hold for legit 20+ years
@soppa24
@soppa24 3 года назад
yeah thats the prob with invading USSR from the east, you gotta go right to the European border thru millions of soldiers and mountains to even get to the significant victory points
@mazen6446
@mazen6446 3 года назад
The biggest mistake the Americans made here is giving Germany, UK and France time to mobilise and build up their industry and armies while wasting time invading Asia and the Siberian wasteland. The Soviet Union did a good job in pretty much acting as a buffer zone and slowing USA down with their massive armies until Germany build up its land army and UK started to match the US navy.
@sihirdalizim8558
@sihirdalizim8558 3 года назад
Dude uk didnt and coudnt have a navy that can match the us navy u need to count all the worlds navys to actualy figth against it
@mazen6446
@mazen6446 3 года назад
@@sihirdalizim8558 sure but the biggest contributor to naval power towards the end was most definitely the UK. You shouldn’t underestimate British naval power
@VanoEditz937
@VanoEditz937 3 года назад
Bruh american navy is also stronger
@sihirdalizim8558
@sihirdalizim8558 3 года назад
@@mazen6446 ofc British was the biggest contributor to naval power towards the end but it still doesnt change that British naval strength was weaker than us's and it was unlikely to have a change in balance of powers in navy because america had good amount of docyards and making good ships from 45 starting in 36 and uk had outdated ships so british was strong but still coudnt beat us
@mazen6446
@mazen6446 3 года назад
@@sihirdalizim8558 I mean what do you expect when you give USA tech from 9 years in the future?
@robertalaverdov8147
@robertalaverdov8147 3 года назад
Never fight a land war in Asia.
@user-oh5fy8id2l
@user-oh5fy8id2l 3 года назад
Bad developed lands .
@Real_Tower_Pizza
@Real_Tower_Pizza 3 года назад
They should have gone for british isles - d-day and invasion through west africa from brazil.
@user-yu7kf3im9g
@user-yu7kf3im9g 3 года назад
Aisan is 1st in the world
@user-yu7kf3im9g
@user-yu7kf3im9g 3 года назад
@knivir people
@Frostbite_001
@Frostbite_001 3 года назад
Well if you fight there make sure you beat europe first
@omgaustria-hungary1192
@omgaustria-hungary1192 2 года назад
Respect to the Soviet Union for giving the rest of Europe time to prepare while it slowed down the USA
@lusaka22
@lusaka22 3 года назад
I thought this would be a easy win for the US but then I saw them invading Asia instead of Europe and I was like "Oh noooo!"
@generalpinochet9821
@generalpinochet9821 3 года назад
i mean if they had not killed china quickly they could mobilize a crazy amount of troops
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 года назад
@@generalpinochet9821 You can beat China as India if you remove all the Indian de-buffs and use manpower grind, or if you reform rome and then change to democratic, use european union option, as italy, you have around 300M core population, which is quite enough to grind China to death using manpower.
@generalpinochet9821
@generalpinochet9821 2 года назад
@@1mol831 yea but is this game they would have got massive lend lease from the other powers
@kingoftheduchies752
@kingoftheduchies752 3 года назад
this is sort of like germanys ww2 campaign in a way, invading a lot of places with huge success and an eventual collapse after invading the ussr
@luxembored2411
@luxembored2411 3 года назад
not just germany, there were the sweedes and also the french who failed because they invaded russia
@ander936
@ander936 3 года назад
I think it was really India and Central Asia that probably wore down the us the most
@tantainguyen4290
@tantainguyen4290 3 года назад
@alfred lauridsen Germany, Italy and whole europe vs USSR and some American supply
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 3 года назад
@@luxembored2411 Yeah But It Was Because Of A Few Avoidable Errors. Especially In Germany's Case.
@podomuss
@podomuss 3 года назад
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 tbf, there was no way that Germany was winning WW2
@n1thecaptain965
@n1thecaptain965 3 года назад
By the end, over 180 million casualties had been inflicted. Literally triple the death count of WW2
@soppa24
@soppa24 3 года назад
and thats only Military deaths, since HOI4 doesnt include any civilian deaths, "only" about 20-30Million soldiers actually died in WW2, cant even imagine how many civilians wouldve died in a war like this
@n1thecaptain965
@n1thecaptain965 3 года назад
@@soppa24 If we take that same proportion, with the military deaths being half to one third of the total death count, that would make the total death count 360 to 540 million people. Thank God this didn't happen IRL
@uStar_888
@uStar_888 2 года назад
But at least we got Empire👏of👏Brazil👏 that's totally a good trade
@n1thecaptain965
@n1thecaptain965 2 года назад
@@uStar_888 Is Brazil worth it tho?
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 года назад
@@n1thecaptain965 can USA even function with 45 million dead? That would be like 150 million dead Americans today, the country would collapse.
@tommyfromwiisportsbasketba4007
@tommyfromwiisportsbasketba4007 3 года назад
nobody gonna talk about the hell march to doom music transition?
@MasterGrunt15
@MasterGrunt15 Год назад
A bit shoddy but it's a'ight.
@artos9406
@artos9406 3 года назад
fuckn 30+ years of intense war, that's epic
@leftfootfirstpolitics
@leftfootfirstpolitics 3 года назад
A marginally better US AI would have won by the end of 1943.
@somerameomstuffxd9190
@somerameomstuffxd9190 3 года назад
USSR 1945 AI: haha yes die trash USA 1945 AI: PWES HELP ME IN INVADING ASIA
@whythough6619
@whythough6619 3 года назад
Well i dont think they needed much help seeing as how america went for 20 years
@danielmatsui4336
@danielmatsui4336 3 года назад
Wasn't expecting that, the unholy amount of soviet divisions always surprise me
@ananon5771
@ananon5771 3 года назад
if the US prioritized europe it would have been the easiest GG of all nations,but the AI was too stupid to take advantage. also awesome doom music
@DrunkManTF2
@DrunkManTF2 3 года назад
I think one of the main reasons they lost was because by the 1950s the US tech boost was gone which was the main reason it was able to push so effectively. Without the better tech but the same sized army in a few years the worlds army and industry would be larger.
@BrassSpyglass
@BrassSpyglass 3 года назад
USA: I fear no man, but that *thing* (USSR coming back for the biggest clutch in history) USA: *It scares me*
@U9DATE
@U9DATE 3 года назад
Did not expect that come back from the world. Really interesting.
@incendiarybullet3516
@incendiarybullet3516 3 года назад
A lot of destiny to manifest.
@Smoke-tf8xk
@Smoke-tf8xk Год назад
4:40 Stalin: *and i took that personally*
@matthewf6465
@matthewf6465 3 года назад
Invading Russia from Asia in winter is really the most stupid thing the Us did
@user-ru7fh6lm8j
@user-ru7fh6lm8j 2 года назад
4:21 Soviet Union: "You shall not pass!!!"
@webosXD
@webosXD 3 года назад
Every 1945 nation is op than a major nation 1936 in Hoi4
@adamanderson3042
@adamanderson3042 3 года назад
This is an incredible video and I appreciate it immensely, but in regards to the criticism of the USA regarding the terrain and the advantages comment. It seems weird to me especially since the USA's advances were only blunted once it got to regions with less harsh terrain and higher infrastructure levels which is ALSO the period that it lost the vast majority of its terrain. I get the point about the grind of manpower loss against enemies dug in in hellish terrain in low infrastructure states, but that doesn't seem to be what happened here if you actually look at the casualties, the vast vast majority of the casualties the USA sustains start in the Western Soviet Union counterattack of 1946 at roughly 4:12. What has obviously happened is the USA has taken too long to take out the major powers of the world and has given them enough time to moblise and the USA eventually finds itself massively outnumbered in almost everything with the only exceptions being the things the AI doesn't behaviourially like to produce like carriers and battleships. Not so much of a criticism but a diagnosis also is that, the fighting in North and South America and for a large % of Asia with the exception of anything involved in the Sino-Japanese war, are as we all know, underutilised HOI4 lands and therefore have large movement regions, having large movement regions means less operational maneueverability, which means you can cover a front with a much, much much smaller number of divisions. Anything that allows you to cover the front with fewer divisions means that all else being equal, both sides are more likely to fill up the combat width over the whole front, regardless of total amount of divisions available to both, either at the front or in reserve. Whenever full combat width utilisation is in use and you have crazy high % of your army in reserve or as active reinforcements in a combat, this disproportionally increases the important of having higher quality divisions. If you gave the USA 1945 tech like most of the comments seem to be assuming(which I admit you might not have done because you also kept the USA factory numbers at 1936 numbers which is surprising) then this would give the USA an immense advantage, which means that it would make sense that we start to see the tide turn whenever they get to regions of the world that have a little bit more love and care from the developers where it's not possible to always fill the combat width in every single combat because tiles are getting smaller and smaller. I propose a better option: Conquer North and South America just as the AI did. It's vital to defend yourself, it doesn't cost much in time or casualties because the AI didn't need long to do it, it's not that much of a distraction. Conquer Japan to knock out a major enemy naval producer. Navally blockade the sea region around Singapore to deny the world of major rubber stockpiles but don't bother invading because you don't want to advance and you don't want to pin down divisions defending the peninsula. Take out the island of Iceland to stage a naval invasion of Scotland to take out the UK as quickly as possible and use it to springboard onto mainland Europe where you take out France, Germany, Italy, Soviet Union etc. The USA in this situation is essentially 1941 Japan vs USA in the real timeline but actually even more so, they have a far far far superior military in terms of numbers, technology and equipment but their enemy has infinitely more people, farms, factories, mines, etc. The only thing the USA still has a majority % of world production on late in the game is going to be oil because of California and Texas. So with that in mind the USA should try to do what Japan did, try to knock out your enemy as time efficiently as possible before they can amass their industry and mobilise a military to first halt you and then turn you bacK. The USA essentially took all of the land that is the exact opposite of the land you want to take with this goal in mind(with the exception of Japan for naval production) it even invaded the Soviet Union from the East which means victory points and industry is super far away from initial invasion point.
@tonyk2027
@tonyk2027 2 года назад
You are forgetting the horrible supply chain because of the poor infrastructure, AI rarely improves infrastructure so the US would have had poor supply lanes the entire European invasion against a fully mobilized Europe. If they went in from France/Spain early they would have had a chance of taking out their only real threat (Germany) before they fully mobilized and had the infrastructure to sustain their supply chain to then take out the Soviets and would have smashed China.
@majorianus8055
@majorianus8055 2 года назад
Also usa didnt use allies, like the philippines didnt do shit in this scenario when in others they were a bit useful and can certainly add 1m manpower
@Ch-ew9tm
@Ch-ew9tm 3 года назад
Video Idea; 1945 allies vs 1945 redarmy vs the rest of the world
@joryjones6808
@joryjones6808 2 года назад
Breaking new large dispositz of oil discovered in every country on Earth. United States: It's go time.
@eggrollsoup
@eggrollsoup 3 года назад
2:30 manifest destiny
@jstoned88
@jstoned88 3 года назад
Soviets: They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
@zabooboo9615
@zabooboo9615 3 года назад
I just like how he used the only one they fear is you for this because it fits so well XD
@chrisgaming9567
@chrisgaming9567 3 года назад
Now beat them as the Soviet Union
@matejomg9995
@matejomg9995 3 года назад
the music is lit my dude
@thegreenrenegade7759
@thegreenrenegade7759 3 года назад
I did not expect this...
@MrEdioss
@MrEdioss 3 года назад
I wanna see a rematch.
@crunchie9362
@crunchie9362 2 года назад
I felt pity when St Petersburg fell in 44, that last holdout looked rough
@mariscalfranco2014
@mariscalfranco2014 3 года назад
Tahiti world conquer pls!! Nothing hard for watcher
@lewisjennings9043
@lewisjennings9043 3 года назад
What is this remix of hell march (from the intro) called? It's amazing and perfect for your videos!
@alwarado
@alwarado 3 года назад
The intro is Hell March 3 I think
@darthmasterwindu116
@darthmasterwindu116 2 года назад
Hell march 3 combined with some doom music
@Kauaalexrar
@Kauaalexrar 3 года назад
Make 2020 brazil Vs 1935 World
@whitezombie10
@whitezombie10 2 года назад
What a comeback
@kkf6087
@kkf6087 3 года назад
One thing: Whats the name of the Music?!?!?
@AdolfHitler-gw8lq
@AdolfHitler-gw8lq 3 года назад
I voted for the entire world ! told ya lads
@kv-2537
@kv-2537 3 года назад
Well somebody else had the same bet
@AdolfHitler-gw8lq
@AdolfHitler-gw8lq 3 года назад
@@kv-2537 nice
@evilchild1851
@evilchild1851 2 года назад
Small detail: the US fired 2 nukes in 1936
@johnmurphy5689
@johnmurphy5689 3 года назад
Huh the World Navies suddenly doubled by the end of the video, with the US Carrier fleet finally sinking by then.
@DestivisMapping
@DestivisMapping 3 года назад
Sound used?
@FelkreG
@FelkreG 2 месяца назад
All those divisions just moving all around the globe is beautiful.
@jamesgabor9284
@jamesgabor9284 3 года назад
You should have forced a peace deal on the USA so we could’ve seen it instead of just ending it imo but great vid either way
@gamingthisera6339
@gamingthisera6339 2 года назад
I like how the US started their attack from the east to west and instead west to east, Genghis Khan would be proud
@livingdream2284
@livingdream2284 2 года назад
Can you try this again?
@xijinping9898
@xijinping9898 2 года назад
Canada and Mexico: lol usa fat haha USA: 0:32
@Townes888
@Townes888 2 года назад
A landing on spain or france (like operation overlord) would be a tactical choice ...
@Mattstravaganza
@Mattstravaganza 3 года назад
How about doing this Idea with Either the UK, Germany, France or even Italy or Poland?
@diasgamingstudios8629
@diasgamingstudios8629 3 года назад
OMG for the first time Usa didnt win
@Admiral45-10
@Admiral45-10 3 года назад
How about 1942 Japan scenario?
@noamgarfunkel572
@noamgarfunkel572 3 года назад
Song?
@lereblochongamer7370
@lereblochongamer7370 3 года назад
Do 1945 USA vs Ultratech Luxembourg...
@lonniebailey4989
@lonniebailey4989 3 года назад
Why do I hear boss music?
@poornavelrajendran6073
@poornavelrajendran6073 2 года назад
Yep once again india showed it's might by stopping further conquest INDIA BEING AN SUPERPOWER
@eisbergsyndrom5010
@eisbergsyndrom5010 3 года назад
Manifest Destiny until it is done.
@charlesdegaulle1681
@charlesdegaulle1681 3 года назад
Music?
@maxwellhudson438
@maxwellhudson438 3 года назад
what is that rock after red alert
@marcelor.rodrigues9584
@marcelor.rodrigues9584 2 года назад
USA AI seem programmed to WWII going japan, even if historically it prioritized europe. "fixing" UK & USA AI (or countries the need rely on large scale amphibious assault to open a front on a continent) is one of the oldest Hoi series challenges. on latest dev diaries they promissed implement portable harbours with level 10 port, i hope this help AI planning proper amphibious invasion.
@DarkArtistKaiser
@DarkArtistKaiser 3 года назад
Yeah I pretty much agreed with you. I was confused at first, but thought maybe if they could knock out the soviets first it would help. BUt getting grinded down in Asia like that, when they were the only one on their side more or less? Yeah, thats a recipe for disaster. They had almost conquered Asia, but other than the Soviets, the other major threats like the UK and Germany were safe to continue to grow stronger. The soviets may of been a threat, but if other nations lay dead and they stand more or less alone, they would be fighting a defensive war that may end up with them losing.
@lordisgeol4552
@lordisgeol4552 Год назад
That sceneraio in 4 days? Wtf that is too much, you can reach year 60 in a day.
@lupus4404
@lupus4404 3 года назад
That doom music though
@philabater321
@philabater321 3 года назад
Honestly when things were dicey in Siberia us could've thrown a few divisions and Europe would've collapsed
@rural8438
@rural8438 2 года назад
So if the timelapse lasted until the late 60s-70s, and America had 1945 equipment, wouldn’t they lose really fast then?
@GameWatcher545
@GameWatcher545 2 года назад
Everyones equipment maxes out at 1945, with the exception of jet planes. So at that point they all had the same level of technology/equipment through to the end. Just a HoI thing )
@livingdream2284
@livingdream2284 Год назад
Can you try this again? I feel like usa screwed up
@asthc.6377
@asthc.6377 3 года назад
1945 us vs 1945 sovjets
@user-ze8vk9kk8f
@user-ze8vk9kk8f 3 года назад
Они могут 100 лет воевать без сухопутной границы . Без модов , которые делают общую границу между этими гигантами , смысла в эксперименте нет .
@kdark1n641
@kdark1n641 3 года назад
Похуй
@asthc.6377
@asthc.6377 3 года назад
@@user-ze8vk9kk8f мб остальной мир просто не будет воевать ток сша с советами 1 на 1
@user-ze8vk9kk8f
@user-ze8vk9kk8f 3 года назад
@@asthc.6377 нужен мод с сухуопутной границей между ними , иначе все будет очень долго .
@asthc.6377
@asthc.6377 3 года назад
@@user-ze8vk9kk8f типо они разделят мир на половину и будут сражатся
@E--girl
@E--girl 3 года назад
Ultra tech UK and army 1939 vs Germany with conquer all World and army from 1936
@somerandomswimmer2726
@somerandomswimmer2726 3 года назад
can you do soviet union vs USA
@DarylHunt
@DarylHunt 2 года назад
Australia sitting out there with nothing to do
@Rosie-su3fb
@Rosie-su3fb 5 месяцев назад
It’s helping in the numbers game
@friedrichwilhelmviktoralbe349
@friedrichwilhelmviktoralbe349 2 года назад
Me - he probably forgot to give America 2.5 million rocket Artillery
@FishyFishaz
@FishyFishaz 2 года назад
THE DOOM SLAYER
@andreikovacs3476
@andreikovacs3476 3 года назад
Fucking HOI4 AI goddammit!
@danieldominoni5542
@danieldominoni5542 2 года назад
music?
@rural8438
@rural8438 2 года назад
The Only Thing They Fear Is You - Mick Gordon
@jozanbozalo4021
@jozanbozalo4021 3 года назад
song in the background please
@procyu
@procyu 3 года назад
OST from Doom: Eternal - The only thing they fear is you
@jozanbozalo4021
@jozanbozalo4021 3 года назад
@@procyu thank you very much
@user-oh5fy8id2l
@user-oh5fy8id2l 3 года назад
1951 America : easy peasy 1955 soviot union: really? Belike 1941 and 1945
@halonut96
@halonut96 3 года назад
Literally could have won by 39 if the ai took the troops on the mainland and invaded europe
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 3 года назад
Now UK 1918/1945 vs the world?
@adyhottie
@adyhottie 2 года назад
PH chillin in Manhattan
@Baconnoodles
@Baconnoodles 3 года назад
lets go
@Androrac
@Androrac 3 года назад
Never start a land war in Asia
@xijinping9898
@xijinping9898 2 года назад
0:32
@end8316
@end8316 Год назад
The defence of North America would have been good but the war had been going for so long so fair enough. Good vid
@TrondelagianPatriotsriseup
@TrondelagianPatriotsriseup Год назад
1945 usa, uk and soviets vs ultratech germany
@Kauaalexrar
@Kauaalexrar 3 года назад
Correct Title: Ultra Tech Usa Vs World
@GameWatcher545
@GameWatcher545 3 года назад
Ultra Tech is Ultra + Tech, there would be no stopping it, so this is different :)
@Kauaalexrar
@Kauaalexrar 3 года назад
@@GameWatcher545 a ok
@Deckdefender
@Deckdefender 2 года назад
Game?
@rural8438
@rural8438 2 года назад
Hearts of Iron IV. You can buy it on Steam.
@lorenrosenhal6555
@lorenrosenhal6555 3 года назад
1942 USA and USSR vs 1936 World?
@user-oh5fy8id2l
@user-oh5fy8id2l 3 года назад
World will defeat
@cloudkelsey
@cloudkelsey 2 года назад
USA AI also kept bringing home divisions which was wasting time. Should have invaded Africa and then built airports to preasure Europe.
@Hercegovac007
@Hercegovac007 3 года назад
Now pls play as america in this scenario
@eggrollsoup
@eggrollsoup 3 года назад
that would be too easy
@jefferyzavala5456
@jefferyzavala5456 3 года назад
Song
@danieloktovian9523
@danieloktovian9523 3 года назад
Destiny Manifestation heavy breathing
@SekBoost
@SekBoost 2 года назад
Lmao it gave germany time to mobilise
@hrishikesh_1512
@hrishikesh_1512 3 года назад
If world team hold till 1940 and saves Europe then its over Germany become a beast and crush the Us forces
@Averageyoutubeenjoyerr
@Averageyoutubeenjoyerr 2 года назад
4:02
@ardsam6922
@ardsam6922 3 года назад
1945 British empire?
@Rokeen-Zeboss
@Rokeen-Zeboss 3 года назад
Let's see if I was right
@narrowpie
@narrowpie 2 года назад
Funny how Germany still annexed Poland
@Kauaalexrar
@Kauaalexrar 3 года назад
Make China Vs 500% Industry Tawian
@Basilahi
@Basilahi 3 года назад
Yep i voted world, i knew the US stood no chance
@Averageyoutubeenjoyerr
@Averageyoutubeenjoyerr 2 года назад
4:10
@CaptainShake_NA
@CaptainShake_NA 2 года назад
Odd Great Britain has a bigger navy in 1936 start, they would have demolished USA navy. I've taken out US as UK from Canada loads of times.
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