Hoka and other running/walking shoes why you hurting my arch? 

Sorry to here that. Did you try the suggestions in my video? The new Clifton 9 has been better in the ache. Also there some new shoes from other brands that have models very similar to Hoka's. The new Asics Nimbus 25 and the New Balance MORE or even the New Balance 840. Good luck!

Awesome. Great to hear. Thanks for watching.

Hope it helps. Thanks for watching.

did you put the heel cushioning on just the right foot? I fear it could lead to some type of weird compensation...I have the same exact problem, I'm developing a callus on the medial part of my right foot (Bondi 7)

Glad it helped. Thanks for watching. Run well, Live Well!

Good point. Unless there is a known leg length difference.

My first run today with them and my right foot hurt too.

Not sure where you got them. But if a customer of mine says they feel the arch in any shoe, I basically say no dice. They are should be comfortable in the shoe in the store at the time of purchase. There should be no thought of well. I hope it gets more comfortable. Or it should break again. Nope. Should feel good in the store.

Yep. the Mach has a normal fitting arch. Hope they get on tot this and correct it in the future. Many Hoka's for the last 2-3 years have had this issue. Makes it hard to pull out for many customers. I pretty much won't sell it if there is any question to the fit of the arch.

Same issue couldn't run in my clifton 8's but got the mach 5 and had no arch issues.

Sounds like me. I tried Bondis but they were uncomfortable in the store already, and then I ordered a pair of Clifton 9. The left shoe feels perfectly well but the right one has that pokey feeling to it. Not sure what to do because I tried other brands as well, and the problem seems to be with all of them.

True they should feel good in the store, but sometime a customer will like everything else about the shoe except for that one thing so here's a remedy that hopefully works.

Same issue. No problem in my Brooks, ASICS. That Clifton 9 had a lot of promise. Even felt good in the store. Sometimes you need an hour in a pair of shoes to really understand how they’re going to feel. Walking, running, moving around at various angles. Anything you intend to do in them.

Which brooks??!

That's classic. I have found most heel pads or heel cups work or just don't. Worth a try though.

You could try an insole like Cur Ex or Superfeet.

Did you try adding an inexpensive heel pad underneath the insole that comes in the shoe?

Thats not the issues for the ppl who have this problem. That midsole/arch area is just too narrow for the shape of our foot and it’s just digging into the arch.

Your 1000% correct. The base is too narrow and curved. I personally miss the older wider platform design. I would have to disagree on the Arahi recommendation as I have not had one customer with even close to flat feet including myself the Arahi has been one of the least comfortable models in Hoka's line up in the arch and actually has caused blisters. True it is classified as a stability shoe (dumbest title, should be called a medial support shoe) the arch is way too curved and intrusive. Now the just released Gaviota 5 is awesome and no arch issues so far.

Yah the Spenco can be out of stock. That’s why I added the other options. If you put them underneath your insole they should be fine. You shouldn’t even know the difference which brand they are if you them underneath the insole.

The arch is much less intrusive on the Clifton 9. Funny i use to cut the side foam off with an Xancto knife back in the day.

@@runnergy thanks, good to know! maybe i give it a try.... worst case i send it back. I wrote hoka an email on the issue

Great question. Here is a cheap way to raise the front and lower the drop. And it's free if you got some extra insoles around from another running shoe. Cut those extra insoles just behind the ball of the foot. Cut them across so you have just the front part and place it under the insole of the new shoe, not on top....underneath. This should work IF and BIG IF it does NOT make your shoes toebox too tight. Let me know if that makes otherwise I will make a video for this. Thanks for watching. Run well, Live Well!

What exactly was the problem with them?

Where did you by them? What’s the date of purchase? Unfortunately the Bondi 8 is a fantastic shoe with a track record that reflects that. As long as the arch is comfortable. Where are you getting the pain?

I try my best not to sell someone a shoe if the arch is not comfortable. Odds are it will either blister, cause unwanted pressure on the lateral side of the foot by compensation or both and ultimately the being returned = not worth it. Means the shoe doesn't fit your foot. If you want a Hoka without the possibility of the arch cutting into your foot try the New Balance MORE it is basically a Hoka made by New Balance. I just posted a new video with the founder of Topo shoes hope you can check it out.

It's only on my right foot only too, my left feels really good! Any update on what you ended up doing?

Me too! It really bothers my right foot only ! I have no idea why :/

@@loudjietheodore161 i just ended up returning them for the clifton 9, its very comfortable more cushiony than the arahi 6. it has more arch support than normal running shoes.

Do you think that the wide version will solve this problem ?

Sounds like a side effect of the water fast I can’t really offer anything here. Hope it has improved and thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching.

Did you feel an arch when you tried them?

@@runnergy Yes. I ended up getting the on cloud cloudmosters and they fit great

Exactly. You never know. Every shoe is different. Thanks for watching.

That’s funny. Doesn’t bother everyone.

Glad that worked for you, but that has not worked for my customers not myself. That just made the shoe fit wider as that doesn't change the foam on the side wall of the shoe. But, heck if it worked for yah, awesome!!! Thanks for your feedback!!! And uploadinga new Hoka video as I am writing this. New trail shoe.

I have the wide but still have this issue.

I compared a wide in store vs the regular Iv has for two days on the Clifton 9. After literally 2 days it soften up a bit and actually wasn’t nearly as noticable than they store fresh Clifton 9 wide or the regular 9 at the store . I felt mine were used when I got em, slight stink and hair inside. Also much more springy. The foam in store seemed stiffer for sure . This confuse me since both the wide and regular were rubbing on the heel a bit whereas my regular fit was way better . Same issue with the bondi. I’m surprised at the difference , now I don’t even know whether it’s worth getting the wide . You could still feel the arch pressure but in slightly different places . I wonder if the regular fit would break in better due to being pressed on more vs a wide version that may not be squished on the sides as much and thus stay stiffer and not break in fully . It could probably get solved with laying a weight on the arch to soften and bend the foam a bit . I still gotta figure out what to do since I wanna return the smelly used shoes I bought

The arch should be comfortable and not blister you. There should not be pain. Wearing a high arch shoe absolutely will NOT fix flat feet. Flat feet in itself is not a problem, trying to fix flat feet is.

@@runnergyGreat answer. Wish your store was near me. You’d have a new customer.

@@andrewsnyder131 I am in Agoura, Ca. Reach out to me via RU-vid or my website Runnergy.com anytime. Thanks for watching! More videos coming.