You do not find stuff in this area for sale often. Puna has miles of empty property that no one really wants and for good reason. This place is an exception. The land I live on had not been for sale since the 1930's. That is the case for most of the property in and near Canney Farm Lots. No meth labs, deep soils and large lots with outstanding views make the general area superior to near by regions. This property is a bit strange because of the creek. mostly we have almost no standing or running water in Puna. The land is too new and drains too well. This specific region is much older and has a different volcanic history. A creek is a rare feature here. It also makes the property an odd shape and where most of the lots here are one acre, this one is 8/10 because of the creek.
i've been up to bills house/nursery, i've met with gray-c!! real nice area up there. i rented a place on oshiro rd once, not far from bill. cold 50s-60s at night , and they get lots and lots of rain. but also lots of sunshine. if you havent lived in hawaii, especially big island, its a lot different than living mainland. bill isnt too far off of the highway which is good. although i'm not sure how that property behind him connects with the road. but again theres only one road into hilo. and it gets backed up because traffic. rule 1: never buy without looking/inspecting. never know what kind of "house" it really is. especially unpermitted here on big island. rule2: rent in the area first see if you like the neighborhood. never know how many rooster farms are next door. or meth-firework-junkyards. (welcome to puna!) rule3: seriously dont buy anything until you're actually here, and use a realtor. big island has a lot of weirdness you dont find in the rest of the united states. catchment water? cesspools? one-horse-town catering to cruise boats and not locals? entire town shuts down at 6pm and always 4 day weekends ? even the library isnt open 5 days a week? no beaches on big island, thats all oahu and maui? say it aint so! its so. as they say in hilo... "if no can, no can, if can, vernas."
All top shelf information, listen to the man! The road to the property is the next one parallel up the hill. It is slightly crummy private road. The house would be 2/10 mile on the road. Much of the area is similar to Mainland back in the 50's. Business closes early, people have picnics on Sunday. There are few good beaches on this Islands but Hapuna beach over in Kohala often rates in the US top 10. Spencer is also a good beach. The rocks are better for snorkel of fishing though.
The permitting issues in puna make me sad. Puna is supposed to be the last bastion of affordable hawaii but so many of the structures are unpermitted which means you need cash up front which prices many locals out of buying an already built home in the area which perpetuates people building more unpermitted homes since that is all they can afford. It is a downward spiral.
Most of the hommes built without permits here would be better off left to termites. Anyone who thinks an unpermitted building is superior to doing business in a legal fashion already has some issues. I would question the judgement of people who build this way and also question the nature of their structures. Any way, there are plenty of permitted structures here for sale. There is also a lot of vacant land where a person can build from scratch. This is what we did. It is easy enough to get a builders loan from a local bank.
The only reason having a neighbor is desirable is the jungle. You should have seen the mess across the fence line before they developed that property. I am not at all gregarious. Truth is I don't want company but some one will buy the place no matter what I think. On the bright side, they will probably mow the jungle, exterminate the rats and bait the fire ants. No complaints on that from me.
The place seems to have a high turn over. It is conveniently located near 130 and Pahoa for shopping but also little close to lava zones 1 & 2. It is in 3 but so close that VOG, LAZ and Pele Hair in the water tank can be issues.@@bobcarney1168
Good morning Bill, Around how much would you say it's worth ? Also probably a silly question from a surfer, but is there surf and how far from the waves is it ? And it's huge my whole hut would fit on the veranda.
No one moves to the Big Island for the surf. That stuff all happens on Maui and Oahu north shore. They use surf board on this island but it isn't like the others. We are 20 miles back from the shore. No Tsunami trouble and less salt in the house wiring. As far as value goes, who knows. Like I said, get a realtor. Before any transactions take place an assessor will get involved. These days, stuff is worth what you can get for it. This one is quite desirable and should go fast at the asking price or higher if more than one bidder gets involved. Aside from the nature of the market, I don't know if the permit was ever finalized. If not, it would have to be a cash sale. No bank would approve a loan without a permit. By Hawaiian home standards it is pretty tiny 985 sq. feet. Mine is 2000 and I trip over Ellen at times.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 it certainly looks like a beautiful place to live and have a beautiful garden. I hope that you get some nice new lucky neighbours. It sounds like I'll have a bit of paddle across to the nextdoor surfing island. 😂🤙
The Big Island is good for a lot of things but it's only a marginal surf spot compared to the North Shore Islands. Those are the action spots. Much of this Island is solid rock at the shore, high cliff and dangerous currents. There are memorials to lost shore fishermen all around the Island.@@aaronhopkins6697
coqui frogs are tree frogs though, they lay eggs anywhere and when they hatch they are fully formed bastard tree frogs again. no tadpole stage! truly a wonder of evolution. i know because i found coqui frogs and coqui eggs and mini coqui frogs hatching out of the eggs in some plant pots i had laying around . :(
No, that is the Cane Toad maternity ward. The Coqui frog doesn't breed in water. The eggs hatch in trees and stuff and there is no tadpole stage. They walk out of the egg as froglets. That is what makes them so darn abundant, breed in your car tires! The Cane toads use that pool, they have tadpoles. It was a real mistake to build one at ground level for the toads. You should hear it roar! The toad is low frequency though. Loud but doesn't make the ears bleed.
Look in the text for the Zillow link, it has the data. They claim .80 acre. That is about right. These are one acre lots but this one has a creek on one side that changes the shape to a pie slice.
Over priced compared to what? I didn't realize you were a real estate appraiser familiar with this area. Since you appear to be familiar enough with this parcel to have an opinion on it's value, what would the right price be? I live next door and you would have to put a gun to my head to get my place for less than $650,000. That is, if I was planning to sell. I have no plans to immigrate to NZ at this moment, but if the political landscape in the USA is currently garbage. Wait to see the future.@@zm4518
ugh. they have a pond for frogs. why . thats the dumbest dumb i hope when new people move in you can tell them how bad the pond idea is here. about people asking value, .8 acre isnt all that big, but killing weeds on it takes a long time anyway. "off grid everything" sounds bad to me. only cell internet? house prices went sky high during covid remote work. so maybe its slightly overpriced but not by much. if it were me, i'd go for that farmhouse with 15 acres down the road instead. 18-2464 Ala Mahinaai. with possible county water and highway access + a small business + 5 suites for renting out. but thats $1m. well good luck
You would hate it. We don't have water breeding frogs here. The Coqui breeds in trees. the Froglets walk from the egg. no tadpole stage, no water. The cane toads like the pond but they are not as noisy as the frog.
