Home Made 4WD Mini Trophy Truck Build - Part 21

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@chrism4621 Год назад

For the shifter linkage instead of complicated mechanical connections with roads and leavers use cables. 2 cables for the primary shifter, 1 for up, and 1 for down. For the secondary transmission 2 for forwards and backwards, and 2 for left right. The shift lever can be in any orientation, or place the cable will reach. You could even mount them to the seat, so shifters move with the seat. -- I should have read all the other cable suggestions before I posted.

@joebufford2972 Год назад

I was thinking about that too, it would be easier to reconfigure the h with cables then rods and livers

@robbiegunkel2356 Год назад

Can use two push pull cables for the 2nd trans and one for the motorcycle trans.

@wippitywine2 11 месяцев назад

@@joebufford2972 you think so well you need to watch this you'd be impressed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1qTRy1QqUNE.html 1rather B welding Home Made 4WD Mini Trophy Truck Build - Part 22 shifter

@-opresiet-1414 Год назад

Using the impact wrench as a hammer. Glad I’m not the only one.

@shawnknight421 Год назад

Maybe you could use shifter cables to keep from having so much slack The cables that we use on drag car shifters are pretty sturdy

@briankuhn7396 Год назад

Sturdy and a lot lighter. I like this idea.

@maxpetification Год назад

for that application some bicycle cables would be enough, also you can route them however you want

@curtisjmurphy Год назад

Cables would work for both the primary gearbox and the secondary gearbox. He'd need to use 2 cables for the primary and 4 cables for the secondary. A big advantage of cables is that they allow for customization of the shift pattern to anything the user prefers by simply swapping around the cables. As it stands he's pulling the lever back to gear up (the correct way imo) but with cables it's trivial to have it the other way around if desired. As for the secondary gearbox controls, he could use a heim joint as the pivot for the lever with a + shaped plate on the bottom of the lever connected to the 4 cables. Then have the opposite setup above the transmission translating the movements to the correct pattern by changing the position of the 4 cables. Typically cable systems are not as precise as linkage, but compared to what he has now it would be a massive upgrade. Also, he could do paddle shifters on the steering wheel for the primary gearbox saving space for the secondary gearbox shifter on the tunnel.

@mlsargent51 Год назад

Even my old ragged 2004 toyota uses 2 cables. I agree, cables could solve a number of his problems on this build and some of the others.@@curtisjmurphy

@hemidart7 Год назад

THIS!!👌👍

@juusoteerioja7956 Год назад

You could use motorboat steering cables as shift linkages

@djmjr77 Год назад

I concur!!

@AllDayBikes Год назад

Wouldn't be a rather B welding video without Blood Red Sun

@danf4616 Год назад

Don't know of very many mechanical fix and/or fabricator You Tubers with this many subs who are able to do everything by themselves. Seems like most have lots of camera, editing and often shop help. WTG Chris! Thanks for the videos! 👍👍

@enginesandelectricity3795 Год назад

you should use push pull cables for both shifters. If you use two cables 90 degrees apart it would make it so you could orient the shifter any way you want

@neonnerd1364 Год назад

You could always utilize cables for the shifter for the engine. You'd only need 2 cables and there'd be no rattling plus you'd have extra adjustment to eliminate any dead zones you might have.

@__razor__ Год назад

yeah they used this system on some old french bikes

@neonnerd1364 11 месяцев назад

@@__razor__ a cable system from an older car would probably be perfect. You only need a fore/aft cable that's got brackets on either end with something for cable tension adjustment and then you have a solid sequential shifter.

@saimon1680 11 месяцев назад

Some peugeot uses two cables, those hold in place like bigger brake line clips and those brakets would be easy to make

@neonnerd1364 11 месяцев назад

@@saimon1680 ya that's the same as the 95 dodge neon. It has 2 cables that are held on a bracket by steel clips. 1 cable does fore/aft and the other is a crossover cable.

@mtb_prodigy4856 Год назад

This build is coming along so well, I wish everyone had creativity and building skills like you, the things you build are sick 🔥💯🇺🇸

@gages.garage1578 Год назад

I agree!

@MaldonadoMoto Год назад

Agreed Chris is a true master builder

@02f4irider Год назад

Dont forget, you could add some light tension springs to the limiting straps to pull them in the direction you want them to go when they collapse. Also might want to try to move the jeep trans shifter in front of the other one because if you move the seat all the way forward, you wont be able to reach the jeep trans shifter. That being the one you will probably use the least, would probably be best in front of the other one. Just a personal thought.

@EdwardRoss-tb5hz 11 месяцев назад

Sequential cable shift like NASCAR baby! Cool build can't wait to see it done

@the454bigblockXJ Год назад

That 1st/reverse gear is the face of "grind it to find it"

@musicauthority674 Год назад

There's no synchro on the first and reverse gear. which is not necessary for his application.

@waynerogers379 11 месяцев назад

Must be mad being your neighbours..... u walk in the shed with a few steel pipes on your shoulder fast forward a few months and this thing rolls out the shed. You are truly talented Chris 110%

@xpndblhero5170 Год назад

You could put some tube guides for the shift linkage to make it a little more stable and less noisy too.... Some of that chain slide plastic would work great. 😁👍

@CarLoverPhotography 11 месяцев назад

That thing is turning out so sick!

@sfeather7088 Год назад

instead of using a rod for the shifter....consider using an automatic transmission push/pull cable....i used one on a project I did 30 years ago and it worked really well :)

@BarnOwlProject Год назад

Not many people get to watch their own tutorial video on something to refresh their brain. Pretty dope.

@apdsdeveloppement74 Год назад

for travel straps, you can use a spring or an elastic, so as to be sure that it does not come into contact with the chain or bumpstop 😅

@EJ-74 Год назад

The limiting straps are a must imo, I think it will be pretty noticable.

@MrCooldaan Год назад

Shift cables would be a good idea. Use 2 for the engine shifter and 3 for the H-pattern.

@Jeffsa12 Год назад

Your fab skills are awesome! You should consider using a ~2L 4cyl front wheel drive manual car engine/trans assy. to power your next build. Use the trans output to drive a main jack-shaft, and omit the whole aux gear box. A larger engine would have a much better torque curve to drive buggy + drive r= 1000lbs+ total. You could get enough gear reduction between (trans output) to (jackshaft) ratio, and (jackshaft) to (wheel hubs) ratio. Gear it for a max speed around 80 MPH should provide more than enough gear reduction on the bottom.The car engine would likely have over 2x the torque of almost any bike engine, so it wouldn't have to be way up in RPM's to produce torque.

@Trevinator1990 Год назад

you REALLY need an electric hoist in the shop there for all the lifting you do with that chain hoist!

@WickedMachineWorks Год назад

Might be time to make a gantry in your shop mate! That would be a cool build.

@kristofferskantze 11 месяцев назад

For the shifter linkage you can use a shift cable for a outboard boat engine, like the Teleflex cables. They give a smooth, silent and precise action and you only need one cable, it handles both the push and pull action.

@1one3_Racing 11 месяцев назад

You should weld another nut near the chain adjuster and crank the longer bolt in there ao if you need it on the trail, it's there! I used to fill all the spare holes on my 4x4 so when I was in the middle of nowhere I had plenty of spare hardware!

@Cliffprogarage Год назад

Try using a push pole cable. Similar to something you would find on a boat for steering, but you could probably find something smaller to at least shift. Gears on engine. Also might be something useful for secondary transmission may be two cables for that. Just an idea.

@davidorbell5803 Год назад

as i suggest in the last video, you should use push pull cables like heavy duty bicycle cables. is so much cleaner and simple

@willywitzig9273 11 месяцев назад

luuv these builds... where they aleady come with all-natural differential locks from the start :-D

@perro-chacarron2364 Год назад

This project is coming together very nicely! I will recommend using a cable for the engine shifter.

@neddyairsoft3972 Год назад

You should install a stereo in this! You have the middle portion of the dash that you could fit one!

@michael_jullie2836 Год назад

On the road to a million subs !!!!!! You deserve it 💯

@rickburnout666 Год назад

I would use cables to change gears, we did that with a Slingshot 1100K engine in the back of a Renault Kitten Van in 1990 I miss the fun times I used to have. Keep up the Great work !!

@EdwardMurray06 Год назад

Chris would you consider road legalizing this awesome project? I bet it’ll be fast enough with high range. This has to be the biggest project you’ve made yet. Delrim bushings may help quiet down all those linkages. I’d love to see the wiring done really nicely with fuse boxes and nice harnesses. Maybe even an electronic display panel. Power steering possibly? Man I really love this vehicle.

@timothymilam732 Год назад

On your chain tensioner, just add another jam nut on the same side as the bolt head is, and that way you have two adjustable jam nuts. Then if you actually need the longer bolt it's there, and just a matter of removing the one extra jam nut if it's necessary. On your linkage add nylon bushings to help with the noise, and take up some of the slop you have with the linkage. Plus it will make for smoother shifts, because it glides better, and reduces some of the raw metal on metal feel you have now

@JBLPL Год назад

Do one chain tensioner, in the middle. Two can worp a little bit a hub. 👍

@bmxdan1978 Год назад

Cable shifters! One for fore and aft, one for to and fro

@gages.garage1578 Год назад

True inspiration, started my channel a year ago next month because of you, also building my own cross kart/ dune buggy right now,already got the front end done just need to decide on an engine!

@StillOnSteel Год назад

Can't wait to see that thing rolling!

@davidearienti1710 Год назад

you could build the engine shifting mechanism with steel cables attached to both side of the shift lever and to both side of the shifter handle, one for the pull and the other for the return

@lukeout0142 Год назад

you could replace all that linkage with a push/pull cable = no play in the linkage. 😎

@bakudans4851 Год назад

For shifting, maybe look at cable stearing of cargo bikes. They use just 2 or 4 cables to transfer the movement without any play.

@_arthur85 Год назад

If I lived in America, I would come and make for you a fully electronic shifter transmissions control, with any convenient configuration =) Sorry for my English.

@stachsco Год назад

For both shifters just use cable linkage, like in modern cars, it solve all issue with yours shifters.

@mrutherford8590 Год назад

That’s going to ride smooth over rough ground

@omittuch1 11 месяцев назад

Use Morse cables 33c is the series. We use them for boat throttle and transmission shifting. They will do push pull. You can get mini heim joints that screw on the end of the cables. By the way that's how front wheel drive cars shift their manuals.

@JPProeger 11 месяцев назад

I´d use cables for both. There are cables used in boats, that can do both push and pull. This way you get rid of the play and it´s easy to turn the H pattern into the right direction.

@averyanderson6945 11 месяцев назад

Definitely one of the best builds yet!!

@marcusretaken72 11 месяцев назад

For the shifter, just use a front and rear return spring the dampen the movement.

@Lowshoehighhat Год назад

Weld on a bigger head on the tension screw that needed to be longer.

@trailerparkcowboy 11 месяцев назад

Should move the rear chain adjusters to the center on the trailing arm.. then you could use longer bolts for the full travel

@1one3_Racing 11 месяцев назад

You could move the fulcrum for the shifter higher. It'll shorten the level, reduce weight, shorten throw, make more room for the second shifter and move your linkage higher so it's out of the chain. You could even move the fulcrum forward a little. It means the lever won't be perpendicular in neutral and shift up will be pushing it up and away from you which is a little weird but if it helps with packaging you could live with it. I've driven some vans that have the shifter on the dash and it's not too bad once you get used to it.

@christaylor2168 Год назад

I wish I had half his engineering skills. Good job as always man. Can’t wait to see it flex on the rocks and trails. I think it will put those razors to shame.

@darthgbc363 Год назад

To remove most of the slop in the shifter - remove pivot at 23:28 & make a single rod system. Either reverse the arm 180° to the top at 20:56 or move the rod connection from below to above the pivot at 24:03. Maybe use small ball ends. Also, add 2 light springs to center hand shifter.

@BrendaGibson-ys6qn Год назад

That's the way that I was thinking to do it too.

@Rccrawlerhobbyplus Год назад

I can't wait anymore to see this ripping 💪💯🔥

@laymanengineer7502 11 месяцев назад

This is going to be the best vehicle yet bro! 👍 Using all the best inovations of the first one and incorporating all the things you'd like to have done better/easier on this one. You really do have a true fabricator's story Chris. Don't let any of the haters tell you otherwise. Just keep doing things your way. I think you really have something with this mid-shaft chain drive system. Its practical and you've proven it works really well.

@BraxxJuventa Год назад

Thanks for filming Chris! 😁👍😁👍

@mrdeathscrn Год назад

Lookin mint as pér usual! If them "stop straps" gets too unvieldy, maybe it would work to put a "bungee cord" (those with hooks on each end used for securing cargo) so it looks like a sideways Y when "loose" and sideways T when stretched if that makes a lick of sense.

@Maccaroney 11 месяцев назад

Truly inspirational.

@michaelfowler8289 Год назад

I love the fact that you're remodeling your design but I think I've ready for another project🎉🎉❤ LOL😲 at least that's me anyway😳😁 not that I'm going anywhere I'm entertained😢😢😮😅

@feeterican 11 месяцев назад

Just had an idea about the H shifter. Use Universal joints. You can get them from ether swivel sockets or double bass pedal arm. I think a replacement DB pedal arm for those are around $60. Swivel sockets not so sure.

@aicilopon26 Год назад

Bud second time I suggest this.... get the shifting cables and mounting hardware of from a front wheel drive stick shift transmission, it would be a lot easier, does anyone disagree?

@desmondlott5682 Год назад

Try bushings for all that play you have plus it would reduce all the rattle noise

@aserta Год назад

For the wiring, get yourself some conduit so you can seal the wiring up in a relatively rigid structure. I've seen it done with amphibious stuff, but even the simplest common setup can benefit from standardized sealed house stuff like conduit sheathing. Awesome work so far. One other minor thing. Weld some strips of aluminium in front of the more exposed and likely bolts to be hit on the underbelly armor. Like right at the bottom, those should definitely have a few pieces to protect the bolts.

@42Goopy42 Год назад

Your shifter has a ton of play because of the clearance stack up between each joint. If you make some delrin bushings and reduce the length of the trans mount shifted, the throw of the shifter should decrease. Or switch to cables! Should be way easier to get the throw you want and lighter. The t90 trans might not be good for cables though, those trans have a lot of detent.

@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes Год назад

Jeep Trans Shifter should come from a modern Car Trans shifter- most use two push-pull cables- one for front and back movements, the second for L&R movements

@justusbyaruhanga6181 11 месяцев назад

Great build and creative

@michaelcrebbin7328 11 месяцев назад

The build is getting closer to the first test run looking awesome 👍🤜🤜

@ik04 Год назад

I know it's too late, but you should use Bowden cables for the shifter linkages. Lots less slop and you can use the parts off a Volkswagen Golf/Passat or some other car with cables.

@marvinschleicher5542 Год назад

How about using a push pull cable, simmler to the cable system used on boats for shifting lower unit. Depending on cable length it can be routed I think a little easier. Just something to think about

@dolphinvr4 11 месяцев назад

you could use push pull cables for boat steering for the h pattern only need 2 cables then instead of 4

@colmmorley Год назад

I've always known how a swaybar worked, but I've never seen it working in action like that.. Great Job

@chrisjohnson9587 Год назад

I gotta say I really enjoy watching you fabricate it gives me fantastic ideas thanks for all the hard work

@peytonmathis7460 11 месяцев назад

Use cables!!! For the shift linkage I wanted to comment this same thing on the single seat race buggy build

@stener8888 11 месяцев назад

getting closer mate! :D btw do the Hgear with cables, will solve all your issues

@MrMorepower71 Год назад

Coming along good.

@davidhyde4997 11 месяцев назад

For the 3 speed shifter use the shifter and cables out of a 2005 Honda civic. And upgrade the shifter to the billet one for strength

@tristanmcnabb2741 11 месяцев назад

Allsome work 🥳😸👍🏆 wow there's a lot to that project for sure 😳👍😀 from cruzermans inventions cool stuff bud

@kimjeppesen77 11 месяцев назад

Great build 👌👍 Have you thought about using cables from speedboat steering for the shifters ?

@gabrielebianchi4456 Год назад

you could use metal wire to move the motorbike gear I mean it's easier and it could even reduce the play that the lever has. By the way I love your video and I want to se this project completed

@stevenpleasant5834 Год назад

Look into Morris Cables -your build is looking real good.

@hemidart7 Год назад

Use bungie cord as a tie for the straps so they will fold in the direction you want....just light bungie's

@guacam4ya103 11 месяцев назад

Can't wait to see this thing rip

@jamesarnold6059 Год назад

That valve cover looks rad with the shocks

@patrickthompson4800 Год назад

Look into aircraft yolk linkage. Might solve the shifter problem.

@davestevens4263 Год назад

I still want to say your a bad ass at building/ fab work!

@michaelfowler8289 Год назад

Use a double or triple z pattern so you have to pull out to one side to get it to come down and it goes right up Ozzy would take is freeloading it from one side

@tinygriffy 11 месяцев назад

Incredible work you are putting into this !! Can't wait to see it running ;)

@micaelantunes7055 Год назад

The way i did it in my cbr600 go kart, i have a shaft behind the seat with two linkages , right to the shifter , left to the gearbox handle. It has no play at all. For the secondary gearbox you can use cables from a toyota Celica or MR2.

@martinbeaumier7172 11 месяцев назад

I would install the swaybar on top

@tomhobbies6888 Год назад

Just gonna through this at ya.Maybe use cables for shifting. Just saying . Love the vid s Plus your background music is the best. Later

@marcneeson8408 Год назад

Make a little 90 degree cut in your bump stops to fit the big bolts you need then shave the ends of them wen there fully in ansd out

@gregg.6853 11 месяцев назад

Love the build so far. Looks like you are going all out on this one.

@newbornlog2789 Год назад

Also if you use bushings for the shifter nylon or whatever tighten it up

@FamilyMods Год назад

Hi Low rev shifter would look/be cool over head... and cable shift cables.

@newbornlog2789 Год назад

Come on man articulation!! Your welcome

@jeeper426 Год назад

a cable shifter out of a Dodge Neon should fit your needs the trans axle on a neon is transverse mounted and the H-Pattern shifter is shifted via cables at the drivers seat, i think Toyota, Nissan and Honda do something similar but the Dodge Neon ones are the easiest to modify for applications

@jimhowell4937 11 месяцев назад

Consider a cable shifter (Morris cable) like modern 5 speed car. Oops should’ve have read the other cable suggestions before posting, Jesh.

@pixels2polygonss Год назад

Making a dual sway bar set up imho is overly complicated. If you change or make adjustable mounting points for the end links along the suspension arms you can greatly improve the stiffness and simplicity of the design. Plus it shouldn’t be too hard to get out and adjust the sway bar tension when needed.

@scottwright388 Год назад

I'm going to guess this will be a 29 part series until completion.

@musicauthority674 Год назад

GHPC, when they built Colonel Senders. it took seventy episodes and I watched every one of them, and it was worth it. because Colonel Senders turned out to be the best build on YT. but it took a lot of work to make it that good.