Home run gets taken away because he missed home plate, a breakdown 

So should they not have to run around the bases? You hit the home run and you just do a little spin wave to the crowd and walk back in the dugout after you hit a home run?

sellout

He should be banned from any baseball league. If the coach can't even count on you to touch a base especially on a home run, you don't deserve a spot on the team. That was a pretty foolhardy thing to do.

no different than when a WR drops the ball on an easy run untouched down the field just before the touchdown. we dont just give them the TD.

@@bermchasin slight difference, there’s a ball in play in football.

@@MDK2_Radio Well mr. smarty pants what if someone throws a football on the field during the base running?

@@bermchasin Nah because the play is already over once he hits it over the wall, running the bases is just a formality after that

@@sneersh9107 it isn't a formality - running the bases is how you score the point. If you don't hit home plate, you didn't score.

A lesson learned the hard way is a lesson learned well.

Wanna bet?

Hard to miss the plate sitting on the bench

Desean Jackson didn't learn to not drop the ball at the 1 yard line. Did it in a high school championship game, and then again in his first NFL game.

Exactly.

didnt happen, stop lying on the internet for attention

@@ppstorm_ What reasonable basis do you have to claim this didn’t happen? This is one of the most believe sounding stories i’ve seen in a comment section.

@@ppstorm_ yea I totally woke up & decided “yk what?? Ima go lie for 20 Thumbs up on a jomboy video” Lololol Two words for ya buddy

Did your brother cut off his hand as an apology?

@@ppstorm_ found the kid who played in a shitty little league with alcoholic coaches that didn't take it seriously. In parts of the states there are little league coaches who get more fired up than the pros

I was scanning the comments to see if that was covered. Thanks!

Thanks, I was wondering. It seems dumb that it’s an out, though. Put the hitter back on third. Oh, well, they didn’t consult me when they wrote the rules.

@@MarcosElMalo2 He left the field of play. He'd be considered out for running out of the baseline. Just don't be a dummy next time and touch the base.

how is it a putout when the ball that was involved in the play is still laying on the ground behind the wall? such a stupid rule.

@@HunkerDownDawgs94 running outta the baseline is legit cause the runner is avoiding the tag... what is the runner avoiding by missing the plate? i mean, if they can let a runner take first on an automatic walk w/out actually throwing 4 balls, then a hr should count once it leaves the park. such a stupid rule..

Just like a sore peter.

They're not comparable. One is an active play, the other is a dead play. When you hit a home run, no one can do anything about it. The ball is gone. You are allowed to dance around the bases, if you please. In football, if you walked the last ten yards, you're going to get tackled - the play is active. To have runners touch every base on a home run is unnecessary - the play is dead. It's a home run. We all know that. Touching the bases doesn't change anything about the play.

@@matthewmurray8570 Well it’s a rule and it’s not hard to do. Just touch all the bases and home…

@@tiger101757 Okay. If I made a rule that, before you leave any room, you have to touch the door handle / frame, what would you say? It's a rule and it's not hard to do. Just touch the handle / door frame. Would you do it?

@@tiger101757 its also easy to just say a home run is a home run. literally no skill or competitive reason to force players to touch every base.

@@matthewmurray8570 not saying having to touch all bases is a good rule. But since it is a rule, it's frustrating seeing people miss a WHOLE BASE/PLATE

If she wiggles her ass it's a free pass We could go places with this bro

It's a horseshit rule f that stupid song

So many ppl are complaining I mean did they ever play baseball? The most simple rule just touch the bases man 😂

@@misaelchalas8561 You don't score runs by moving the ball. You score by hitting home plate. Moving the balls gives you the chance to do so, and hitting it out of the park lets you do it without any defense to stop you. If you don't take the opportunity, that's on you. It's a good rule because without it the core structure of how runs are counted in baseball is changed and what why whwwh dont do that.

@@seanm266 so you’re agreeing with me? Lol

Good man 😂 gotta let those kids have their fun sometimes

I was on the other team, I saw it and told you about it and you ignored me, we lost and that game ended my MLB dreams hahaha I agree, they're kids, they make little mistakes, let them play.. good job Ump!

@@codyeble6764 LOL!

This is the way to do it, not calling a kid out over a simple mistake. If you wanted to be nice maybe go up to the kid after the game and tell him to make sure he touches every base, cause not every umpire will be as laid back as you about the rule sadly

You guys are missing the point. The op wasn’t being charitable or letting anything go. An ump doesn’t/shouldn’t call the kid out on a missed base. It must be appealed by the defense. That’s how it works. And he was praying that the appeal wouldn’t come. And it didn’t.

@Matt Johnson I would laugh at it but it wouldn't get me excited enough to celebrate.

Lol it's the weirdest flex but you get a lot of people -- an especially in Florida -- that delight in other people's misfortunes. I'm sure there's a reason.

guess you can't watch thru to the end lmao

@@Hjaelteomslag It's literally an opponent score being taken off the board after the play. In what sport would you NOT cheer that? In hockey, a goal called back for offsides or some other infraction is cheered by the opponent fans. Same in football w a penalty taking back a touchdown.

@@justinbarnard8749 It's not other people's misfortunes, genius, it's a contest, the one team's misfortune is the other team's good fortune.

Came here to comment that. That's a two-run single if ever I saw one. The only difference I'd say is that Cal probably pitches differently with a 1-run lead rather than a tie in the 9th.

Don’t forget they would’ve had an extended inning if he’s not called out. Nobody knows

Agreed, most likely scores 2, and the “maybes” could go on forever. Couple reasons I still like baseball - the oddity rules and every single play still matters. Neither have changed since the beginning of the game imo

You’re right, but it changes a lot of other stuff. They could’ve scored more runs that inning as they were obviously locked in on this dudes FB, or if they were up by 1 going to the bottom of 9th then they would’ve brought in the closer, etc. Idk the specifics of this game, but being tied, and being down by a run will most times change a bunch of coaching decisions. Not only in the 9th, but in the innings prior to that as well. All that being said, Jomboy’s right, it should just be a home run. Don’t even really need to run the bases (although I like that part cause it feels great to run the bases after you went yard with everyone cheering, and it gives the hitter the opportunity to show off).

Yeah, but the whole strategy, emotional outlook and everything is changed if they aren't tied and are trying to make up one run. Heck, there might have even been a different pitcher on the mound going into the ninth, perhaps the closer didn't start the 9th. Cal might score 3 more runs that inning for all we know. The pitch count is changed for thr starting pitcher no matter what. A lot of things change.

Yea the catcher shouldn't have made it so obvious til the appeal. And you're right, the batter's teammates kinda fucked him here as well. Can't believe no one in the dugout saw the catcher react like that.

The last hit was in the 12th inning. The game would have been over in 9 if that run had been scored.

Whoops, it was the 9th still. My bad. I saw the pitch count # (12) and missed Jomboy saying it was the 9th.

The catcher he not fun at parties

Now why can’t he do that even after he enters the dugout? There’s no baseline after you pass home plate, and the next batter didn’t take the next pitch.

Wednesday, March 23rd - Top of the 3rd inning, I believe. Exact same situation with the totally opposite outcome...

@@doranmjd yep you got it!

The defense must execute the "appeal" process for the umpire crew to make it official. Once the next ball is put in play by the home plate umpire the pitcher must toe the rubber and step off. The Catcher would then call timeout and receive the ball from the Pitcher and request ruling from the umpire and/or crew.

@@17Helton Are there not dead ball appeals in NCAA?

There is a gap in this video. At 1:47, the umpire is behind the plate, with his mask on. At 1:48, he is away from the plate, with his mask under his arm. It might be that the defense appealed properly, but it was edited out of the video.

Not sure how old you are, but I will offer some wonderful grammatical advice. Periods and commas are your friends. Either way, great story, very unfortunate.

@@Tracked350Z I'ma mechanic and I don't write books for a living so I'm good. I was using talk to text and wasn't gonna go back and place grammar.

@@123blarson ignore me. I'm just an asshole.

@@123blarson don't worry, that dude can't even change his oil

Left the base path

because there is a concept called a "base path" If you leave the base path then you are out. Its also why you cant touch first run and touch the outfield wall and come back to touch 2nd base for example. one you enter the dug out you have officially left the "base path"

@@focusobjectives The ball isn't even in play anymore, the base path doesn't mean anything anymore.

@@focusobjectives Actually a runner, in theory, could touch 1st, run out and touch the outfield fence, then run back and touch 2nd. The base path is set by the runner, only if that runner leaves that path in order to avoid a tag would an out occur. But you are correct in saying that once a runner passes home and enters the dugout, that runner can no longer return to touch a missed base.

@@alcoraces no…..just ……just no. You “ in theory” cannot do this as a base runner.

If touching the base is so important why can't he leave the dugout and do it if he missed it? Time is practically unlimited in a HR since there is no race to the base. The point of the home run is that it is a free play right. The opponents can't play the game and stop you from scoring and if it takes you 1 or 5 minutes to run around the bases nobody short of a ref throwing you out can stop you. The whole point of touching bases is so that there is a conflict between the teams. You are racing who has the ball to the bag and in this dynamic a sport is formed. You have played the sport and excelled at it by hitting the home run. Running around the bases is pointless, there is no longer a dynamic between the teams giving the bases their importance. You can make an exception to the base rule by saying the base rule of touching every base is important and necessary with one exception, we will forgive missed bases on a home-run. In doing that you make a slight technical change that will infuriate traditionalists and people who love strict adherence to the rules but will only improve the game and the idea of the HR. It feels like far more people are upset by a play being undone due to a technicality rather than glad that there was strict adherence to every letter of the rules. I mean the sport has freaking human officials judging in real time what constitutes a strike and ball to the best of their ability yet it is a complete and utter crap shoot based off of biases and eyesight and changes from ump to ump.... the fundamentals of the game has such a subjective opinion judging the validity of plays which could easily be remedied by technology yet you are worried about a runner tagging home on a HR. For a sport with so many rules i'm sure there is a strict definition for what a strike or ball is. Yet why do we still allow officials to call 20 balls a strike a game. That is what should be keeping you up at night about baseball and adherence to rules. So yeah.. the rules don't matter and are more like guidelines.

It does not take much effort to make sure you touch each base. I'm glad the hitter lost his homerun because he was not paying attention.

For not having a sticker on a bat? Tf

ok i need more context

It wasn't just because it was missing a sticker. It was the sticker that shows that the bat has been approved for use in NCAA. That rule has been around for a long time and every team knows they have to submit new bats for conformity verification prior to use.

great example. You for DH or Like 9 on field are 9 who bat???

@@wrmorris2 DH sucks.

It's baseball. You have to touch the base to reach it. And you always have to touch home for a run to count.

@@georgial6398 A.greed

I mean...it is called BASEball for a reason. A run scores when all 4 bases are touched. For the life of me, I can't figure out why Jomboy or anyone would think that hitting a home run should change that. If you can't do basic fundamentals like touching the base, then you shouldn't be playing.

I think it shows how stupid the players are if they miss a stationary base. Do you also think it’s stupid the ball has to go into the basket in basketball, it’s stupid that a receiver has to catch a ball in football, or how about stupid it is to even play the games themselves?

@@fomori2 In Basketball and Football, plays are active. In Baseball, if you hit a homer, the play is dead. We're not talking about stealing bases, we're talking about hitting the ball out of the park and rendering the play dead. Comparing that to other sports' active plays is intellectually dishonest.

@@fomori2 I think that it's stupid because it goes against the spirit of the game. If you hit a home run, its a home run, that's exciting, and taking a lap around the bases is just for the fans watching--there's no game being played between the teams while running the bases--so just doing it non disrespectfully to that spirit is enough.

Ke’Bryan missed 1st base last year on a homer.

These stupid rules, shitty umpires, and cleared dugouts, are the only things that make baseball worth watching. Otherwise it's just shitty ASMR at best.

While I like the rule... because in order to score a run, you have to touch home plate. Suddenly you get different rules because they decided to put seats in the outfield and you hit the ball over a fence? Nonsense. You touch every base like every other runner... All that said, I do agree that the evidence for this one wasnt exactly conclusive.

My thought exactly, the heel could have missed home plate, but the angles were less then convincing. Call should have stood.

"Overturn" what? I don't think any initial decision was made, so there was nothing to overturn. They just had to make the first call....which was out.

@@BornIn1500 by rule they have to make an on field call, so the call on the field was presumed to be no out since there was no signal.

@@kenconnelly773 thanks for the clarification! I guess baseball also uses football rules. The angle was pretty poor. But maybe there were some footprints or other evidence that overturned the call….. I’m still thinking that was a little vague.

@@bp3986 it was bottom of 9th

Momentum could of been different going into that inning

Also could of been different throughout the game

@@richjames5476 immaterial

@@richjames5476 no

EXXXXXXXXACTLY! 💯

They screw that up sometimes too!

I actually wouldn’t mind if they did that. It really is a meaningless part of the game. If they could remove the actual pitches of an intentional walk, they could remove the home run trot.

@@Mosk915 Your logic makes sense since they did remove the intentional walk thing (which I don't like but I'm oldschool) but I'd hate to lose the homer trot; especially on a walk off dinger!

@@hoosierflatty6435 maybe let people do a home run trot if they want, but don’t require it.

@@hoosierflatty6435 Same, it’s like a nice intermission to celebrate amongst fans too imo.

Well if they are gonna do that might as well add a fourth outfielder and let the boys drink beer and smoke in dugout. Figured mlb might as well go full beer league softball

What does it add to the game...

It's not a dumb rule. Without it the batter would not even have to run the bases.

@@ediehl007 Oh, no. Whatever would we do? The ball still went over the wall, but the batter didn't run around the bases with no one to stop him? The tragedy.

@@matthewmurray8570 What happens when it's not clear whether the ball goes over the fence? Runner thinks it did and heads for the dugout. Umpires review the film and say it didn't clear the fence. Batter is out for leaving the field of play when he could have been on second, at least

@@ediehl007 Is the ball in play? If the ball is in play, the runner needs to touch the bases to determine that they're safe. They need to come to rest at a base before the defending team tag them out. If the ball is not in play, the bases are irrelevant to that play.

@@matthewmurray8570 What if it's not clear whether the ball is in play? The batter thinks it's not in play and walks off the field.

@@brandon0981 And in baseball, you don't score until you've touched all four bases in order. It's exactly the same.

@@kvngn you're comparing a dead play to an active play in football. Imagine if in football you had to dunk the ball on the goalpost after a touchdown or it doesn't count.

stupid rule. how hard is it to throw 4 intentional balls to walk someone? but, they don't have to do that. so, why must the runner touch the bases? i mean, can an outfielder run around the fence and get the ball and make a play to get the runner out? no. why? cause when the ball leaves the park, it's done.. it's dead.. the play is over. it's just a stupid rule that someone made cause they can.

You shouldn’t have to for either.

It pissed me off that they can just intentionally walk people without pitching. There are many instances where pitchers fuck up and throw the ball over the plate and the batter hits it or throwing it wild and letting runners advance. Now we lost those moments. And all these people saying touching the bases is a stupid rule are stupid. It’s literally the point of the game and the easiest thing to do and this guy was showing off and karma bit him in the ass. He got we he deserved for being a show off.

Although I do agree that the removal of having to throw pitches for an intentional walk does take away from the game of possible wild pitches or the ball ‘accidentally’ finding the strike zone, the pitcher still can throw them if they want as it’s their choice to opt for the intentional walk or not (this is actually meant as an option for the pitcher to save their throwing arm and not give a potential home run batter an opportunity to score easily). The difference with a home run is that, as many others stated, it does not score a run. A run is scored by going around the diamond and safely touching all 4 bases in order. All a home run does is give you the full ‘safety’ to touch all 4 bases without the chance of being put out by the defence. Home runs have been scored with the ball still in play, just either defence makes bad plays with the ball, or batter hit it to the correct area of the field that takes the defence a long time to retrieve the ball and the throw into the infield is not received properly to halt the runner(s). Yes, an in-the-park-home-run is more likely to happen against lower tier teams and extremely unlikely to happen to teams closer to the level of the MLB, but the chance is always there that, for some reason, a defensive team makes multiple wrong decisions and either wildly throws the ball around the diamond, or is just unable to make a safe defensive play to halt any runners from scoring.

@@Lord27Talon According to my research, in MLB, only managers decide on an intentional walk where the pitches are skipped. Players do not make that decision

@@bavondale Managers aren’t on the field though, so who tells the umpires? Only the catcher or pitcher do that and that was my point.

@@charliemunson7467 HE has facial hair so im fairly sure he is biologically a male. who cares how he identifies. science is reality

He would be out of the baseline then and called out.

I think he's allowed to do that if he doesn't get too far away from home plate. But, the dugout is probably the point of no return. There are other examples of this where the umpire sees the runner miss home, and then waits for the runner to get to the dugout before calling them out.

He's not ruled out on the field after not touching home plate. The run counted at that point. Once the next batter comes to the plate and the pitcher engages the mound, the previous home run play is considered dead, and the results can be challenged.

From what I read he wasn't ruled out but was out in third since that was the last base he touched before leaving to the dugout? I'm not the biggest on baseballs weird rules so I'm not certain

@@keon5100 After the appeal, it was ruled a triple and out at the plate

boys know how to have fun

Already left the field of play, so he forfeits any chance to touch the base. If he was still on the field and not yet in the dugout then he could touch the plate.

I would think once he leaves the field of play (enters the dugout). I’ve definitely seen times where somebody missed home plate (to avoid a tag) and then came back to touch the plate.

Can’t go to the dugout, once he does that, if he hasn’t touched a base he’s out automatically.

@@TaylorAdams12 Is it automatic? I thought the other team has to appeal, no?

@@klizzaus Yeah if the umpire didn't see it the other team has to appeal to initiate a review

I disagree, but I don’t think they should review it like they did.

I disagree. The way baseball works is you touch the bases in order to be safe, and you touch homeplate in order to score a run. Just cause the ball is out of the park doesn't mean you can get out of touching homeplate.

How do you score in baseball? Is it when you hit the ball over the fence? If so there's no point of a base hit, it'll never score unless someone throws it over the fence. You score by touching all the bases, that is when you earn a run, not when you hit the ball. Regardless of whether that ball is playable or not the method of scoring does not change. You can't score off of hitting the ball alone. Also children can do it with brains that aren't nearly as capable as an adult's. It doesn't detract from the spectacle in anyway so I don't know why people are seriously arguing that the "rule" they don't even understand should be changed. There are plenty of other rules that actually do inhibit the game and this elementary function of the sport is one to get upset about, really?

I'm also with Jomboy. Being pedantic is a shitty way to score points in any game. The rules shouldn't support it.

the whole inning would have gone differently because he didn't just lose the home run, he was out, which ended the inning.

‘You run around the bases for a reason’ Yeah, cos it’s the rule. Which can easily be changed…

‘They run around the bases on a home run’ But I thought the home run hasn’t been run yet ? Even you just pretty much admitted that going over the fence is automatically a home run.

@@LarsUlrichIsMe It's just about automatic. All you have to do is touch the bases as you go around, something even teeballers know to do. So you're saying they should just hit it and sit down? Lame. Next are we going to say you shouldn't have to touch a base when you're running past because if you run by, you should be able to keep going without anyone stopping you? No. Touch the damn base. It's not hard.

​@@Sindraug25 yeah just take the home run and sit down, running the bases for an automatic home run isnt anymore exciting. Just extends an already ridiculously long game. The ball is literally out of the field. The play is over, he cant be run out, cant be caught out. Completely different to running the bases in a live play.

Yes it’s over once he enters the dugout. If a player enters the dugout and hasn’t touched a base, if anyone caught him missing the base he’s out automatically.

He can't come back out of the dugout but if he's on the way over to the dugout he can run over quick and touch home and it'll still count as long as the ump didn't see it and he wasn't called out beforehand

@@sneersh9107 as long as the player touches home plate within the same play (that home run play isn’t done until the player enters the dugout, thus leaving the field of play) they cannot be called out for missing the home plate. It would be different if it was one of the bases, I believe, as anytime I’ve seen that happen, the runner has always been called out. It would also change if there were multiple runners and 1 of the leading runners missed a base or the plate and the others didn’t (also have to be careful of passing a runner in front of the player).

@@Lord27Talon With the other bases, you can't go back to touch a missed base once you reach the next base.

@@reamick thanks for clarifying as that’s implied with what I was saying.

It was appealed. The catcher told the ump immediately before the play had ended. Not all appeals require that ritual of throwing the ball to the base.

@@reamick NCAA 8-6 Appeals says otherwise. The only ruleset in baseball that allows dead ball appeals is NFHS.

Fact.

Yep. It is, without a doubt, the most fundamental part of the game and has been this way since baseball’s founding. It’d be like changing how a touchdown is scored in football, or how a goal is scored in soccer or hockey.

We get how scoring works and that the current rules are rules... now explain to me why you can’t make an exception for home runs? If you want to leave the rounding of the bases in the game just make the rule that they have to follow the path or they don’t get the points, it’s very simple. Y’all are acting like this takes something away from the game. Your argument makes no sense, if you actually think it’s literally impossible for them to alter the rules or add exceptions read this: “A comment to Rule 4.09(b) permits the umpires to award the run if fans prevent the runner from touching home plate.)” AKA: you don’t actually have to touch the bases to be rewarded a point. Stop vouching for things that serve no actual purpose because “that’s how we’ve always done it”

@@flyingchimp12 so you want it the other way, that's fine. But don't say my argument doesn't make sense it's literally a fact. Of course things can be changed, everything can be changed. Will it? Should it? Neither you nor I will have anything to do with those decisions.

@@flyingchimp12 cause that is not how runs are scored. Runs are physically scored by touching all the bases. That’s written in stone. If something happens where they can’t physically touch all the bases due to stuff outside the runner’s control, that is one thing, hence the fan interference exception, but when it comes to very framework of the entirety of baseball, you are asking to essentially do away with ALL of it. No, just no! This isn’t some stuck in the last thing. This is following the very fundamental framework that is BASEball.

Alternatively, hitting the home run is hard whereas touching a base with your foot is easy so maybe just touch the fucking base

Running the bases allows the fans to cheer the hitter. That the dumbass can't take a nickels worth of effort to touch every base should be rewarded with an out.

@@JarrettWilliams99 Exactly. Just touch the fucking base. It's called baseball. Baseball games are a serious game involving bats and 100 mph fastballs. If he wants to clown around on the bases, he should join a circus.

@@JarrettWilliams99 ah yes. Nothing like watching like a hawk to make sure a homerun hitter touched the base like fucking jackasses. That adds so much to the game.

I agree

It must have been so much more fun to watch baseball in the 40s and 50s before all this nonsense.

That's what I thought. I thought the runner could've still gone back and touched the plate because the next play never started.

@@jondoepenn3637 some commenters have said that only applies if the runner didn't enter the dugout first, which in this case he did. Idk if that is true or not but it might have an implication for this instance

That is supposed to be a live-ball appeal, even though the player entered the dugout. I have umpired softball and that rule is the exact same for baseball, even though the player(s) entered the dugout, therefore left the playing area, the defence would still need to properly appeal the play. The umpires in this situation could have dismissed the catcher until they properly appealed the play. I’m not sure if there is a way that Cal could have stopped the illegal appeal, but the coach should’ve attempted!

Honestly, why does it matter? The runner didn’t touch home and the catcher immediately pointed it out. It’s the fault of the runner not immediately going back and touching home at that instance. Debating over the merits of the appeal feels petty.

I'm pretty sure that the rules allow for a substitute runner to touch any entitled bases in place of an injured teammate. EDIT: Rule 5.12 (3)(A): If an accident to a runner is such as to prevent him from proceeding to a base to which he is entitled, as on a home run hit out of the playing field, or an award of one or more bases, a substitute runner shall be permitted to complete the play.

happens multiple times every year. it’s even less hard to just say, go back to your dugout you hit a home run, instead of making them do a song and dance around the bases.

@@KobeLoverTatum i agree it happens fairly often. runners skip bases because they are in a hurry and more often than not, skipping a base goes unnoticed so they are not incentivized to try to touch every base, they are incentivized to skip over bases if it can make them a little quicker. if more umpires were more consistent with calling them out, correctly, then more runners would follow the rules of the game and touch the bases and fewer people will complain about the times that umpires actually do enforce the rule

Those umps looked terrified 😂

you could also say Cal woulda had (at least) one more opportunity to score with one less out in that inning.

Agreed. Baseball will have shit like the "in the area of the base" when turning 2 and then need to watch the bases like a hawk on a ceremonial trot. The run should count the second the ball goes over the wall. Dumb

it's not hard to touch all the bases but should that negate a difficult achievement like hitting a homerun. from an entertainment and game perspective difficult things shou;dn't be hindered by something anyone can do. sure we could all go out there and walk around the bases and make sure we touch them all in sequence, but no one is entertained by that. you're entertained by the guy smacking the ball outta the park. if the rule doesn't have a safety reason and doesn't have a game reason, it's just one of those stupid rules that drags the sport down and drags out the length of games just count the homer, let the guy run around the bases, and get on with the game

That's what I'm saying. The defense doesn't have a chance to make a play on a home run ball. It shouldn't matter if a player touches the bases or not.

It’s also based on the fundamental premise of scoring in baseball. MLB Rule 5.08 (a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning.

@@howardbaxter2514 indeed

We don't really have a way to make every rule consistent. Almost every sport has that issue. Tennis is probably the closest to being consistent

The main issue here is: the home plate umpire should have made a new ball live first and then require an appeal play.