Homelander Challenges Butcher to a Fight to the Death | The Boys 

Depends on what it would give me.

your mama

absolutely, to crush Marvel.

no

@@TheMilkLeader love sausage 😏

I think it's because Butchers the one person who isn't afraid of him. It's how I imagine a famous person feels talking to someone who has no idea who they are.

@@yesman9792 ive felt since the first time he sees him in that crowd staring at him, he's been completely fascinated , he's probably never felt someone who isn't afraid or in awe of him in his entire life

@@yesman9792 don't forget edgar

I thought this was the first of Butcher’s hallucinations or imaginings of him talking to Homelander, not a real encounter.

@@yesman9792 Or better yet, doesn't care. Maybe I'm somewhat unique but I couldn't give (insert unit of measurement here) about someone simply because they're famous. The adoration of someone solely based on how many people recognise their face is utterly bizarre.

Excellent point

He was as coming in the crib regardless if Butcher invited him or not. I think he’s saying if you want to be cordial with me, I’ll spare your life

Because he respects Butcher enough to ask if he can come in.

Coz butcher is one of the only people homelander some what respects

I honestly think he views Butcher as more of an equal than any supe beside Noir and Soldier Boy

Exactly. The population of that kind of person is 2: Butcher and Stan.

@@Pianoman999 Might have to add Soldier Boy onto that list soon...

@@sammyboy2987 Hughies starting to grow a pair

@@Pianoman999 He is

I would ask what about Stan, but I doubt he's always honest with him. At least in terms of whatever he's secretly planning.

True, parallel characters tend to have the closest bonds

@@dr3725 Like Superman and Lex Luthor…to an extent.

@@trasegorsuch5140 More like Joker and Batman. Absolute enemies, but also have mutual respect because both of them know only the other man is unhinged enough to truly understand them.

and closest to someone he actually respects

@@trasegorsuch5140 no

Asking if he can come in was a rhetorical question

@@nikb6029 obviously, because he could easily force his way in. I’m saying that he could've easily just came in like he did with everyone else. He didn’t ask them if he could. He just did.

It’s because he respects Butcher and actually the closest to a friend which is why he asked if he could come in as a sign of respect.

There are rules that have to be followed when someone challenges you to a duel.

I simply believe rivals though at odds, can simply be civil when the moment asks for it

This is mask off conversation where you can be truly honest with your adversary and tell them the darkest thoughts that emerge from within you.

Isn’t that butchers hallucination

@@shunpo6295 it is

@Fenrir he didn't even said anything like that 😂...how did you got to that sentiment from this 💀

Even when it wasn’t real

Him and Edgar I think. Noir too actually

Edgar and noir it’s a professional level of respect. Butcher I would say is the only person he respects on a personal level, maybe even see as an equal in strength of character rather than strength itself

@@jfjvmdvbdcndkj I don't feel like Homelander has any respect for Edgar

@@Legend-vm9uv na he’s not

@@Legend-vm9uv that was the TV scene

Someone pointed out that Butcher cant physically hurt Homelander but it is intriguing to Homelander that he can’t mentally get to Butcher. Theyre on even playing field, in a way.

Also, Ryan heard butchers heart beat in the newest episode. No reason for HL not to do the same

Homelander says this about Butcher himself in the last episode of season one.

@@thomasebert5289 Who’s the genius that pointed out the fact that butcher can’t physically hurt homelander?

@@ededdandeddytv5164 HAHAHA did not expect temp V to make butcher that strong.

Mans got nothing left to lose.

It's in his mind

@@emirhanproduction8516 na it’s not

Emirhan Production this part wasn’t a hallucination, only the part where Homelander was talking to him through the TV

@@emirhanproduction8516 Can you prove that?

yeah

It’s actually a common trick the creator of the show does with his other show Supernatural

I wasn’t sure if Homelander was really there or if that conversation was in Butcher’s mind?

It was an hallucination, mate.

I think it was real

Butcher took his son away from him. He was stood right there in front of him, and he took Ryan like it was nothing. Nobody but Butcher has done that and Homelander, in a way, respects it.

I think its the fact that homelander knows somethings coming

Butcher is the only one who isn't afraid of homelander

@@rover5058 Well, him and Edgar. They’re probably some of the only people Homelander respects on some level. Or is at least fascinated with.

Homelander is the Unstoppable Force while Butcher is the Immovable Object.

He calls him William because that is his name

@@borris3768 ye, but using someones first name is usually reserved for people with a close relationship, liki friends or family. Since everyone who is not his family or friends calls him butch, it makes it seem that homelander is "friend" or someone close to him.

Nice job biting off of Kendrick At the end there lol

@@samikaislasalo3947 I agree with you, I also think it’s a sign of respect to butcher. For a character that tries to size down everyone for homelander to call you by your name is respect

@@stixery ye, thats also true

I like how guys like keep repeating the same

Not at all. Calling someone by their nickname that they themselves; refer to would be respect. Calling them their real name is saying I do not like you and it’s serious

The first time they met, at Madeline Stilwell's house, Homeland called him Billy and made a real point of being douchey about it, "You don't mind if I call you Billy?" Now he calls him William, as if he's gained some respect for him, our at least takes him seriously.

@@BlackShinobi. except it's been made very clear that he does like him, just in a very weird way

Only Becca and his parents calls him Billy.

​@@BlackShinobi.He respects him tho.

You’re right🥲😅

This deserves more likes. 🤣

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Household Arriver

bravo vince

And ultimately, this is the entire crux of the show. Homelander, for all his personal traumas and stunted personality, is, essentially, bored. He really has nothing to do that matches up to his power level. This is also Vaught's fault as they should've been every bit as invested in creating adequate villains alongside their heroes if only to ensure that boredom didn't metastasize into villainy. Power unchecked is malignant. Just imagine if an alien threat ever hit this universe. The heroes there would be overwhelmed because they would actually have to become heroes, something few of them were ever given a natural incentive to become on their own. Superman stayed on the straight and narrow largely out of a sense of moralistic duty. Homelander is constantly reminded that he is a product, so he acts accordingly, and wow is it a boring, unfulfilling life.

Basically the relationship between Superman and lex Luther, or Batman and the joker.

​@@Yashieyamayet homlander more lex and joker in this situation

​@@NeverDauntedRadioNetworkThe first paragraph of your comment is a work of art especially the boredom metastasizing into villainy part. English is alive because of people like you

So far, season 3 has been them both going from being obedient towards their bosses/corporations, to them regaining control/power and relapsing on their worse habits. Of course Homelander is enjoying it because he’s a sociopath who doesn’t love anyone but himself. Since Billy has people he deeply cares about this is hurting not just the people around him but himself too.

Season 3 to me is changing the characteristics of each major character in the story. Hughie taking the Butcher approach to taking down Supes versus him in the beginning of the series, Starlight having to put up with Homelander, Butcher becoming the thing he hates and getting superpowers, Homelander becoming unhinged and others

@@phantomgamer9264 i hope they don't take comic route for butcher if u know what I'm talking about

@@Zanoladab They probably won't considering Butcher's current outlook on things

@@Zanoladab what did he do in the comics?

This was in Billy's mind. Edit: Can confirm that it was real after watching episode 6. My apologies.

@@CS_GOD64 People say this was real.

@@CS_GOD64 I thought so too at first but it's real. Trust me.

@@trasegorsuch5140 Edit: I was wrong Watch episode 6. Apologies

@@CS_GOD64 second time was a dream first time was real the first interaction motivated the dream

Bruhh 😂😂😭

They dating is something i wont be suprise off

I thought he was gonna suggest they team up take Vought and the Bureau down

Hashtag BillyLander

I mean it's probably the closest Homelander can offer to a date...

Oh wow, of all the comments your point of view is amazing, never seen it like that!

It would make the most sense as to why Hughie was there in the very beginning.

Hughie,soldierboy or Ryan maybe

That's actually a really clever analogy.

Wow The Show must of read your comment and decided to bring in Soilder Boy I really like that it’s very clever

Well what if that whole thing is also a part of his hallucination😂

@Wes Bradley-Taubner is it not possible for someone to watch a dream consisting different people he knows in real life.. I've seen my friends in my dream, and sometimes they appear without having me in the frame so, not a big deal.

What an amazing scene that was. I wish more people would give the comics a fair chance

When people like Giancarlo, Bob odenkirk exist Karl and Antonny looks like cheap plastic actors

@@TheDazzler420 nope... They are great actors

This might as well be a different beast compared to the comics which in my opinion are garbage

@@TheDazzler420 apples to oranges mate

If they dont plan to give him one, I dont think it would be wise to invite him at the party. I wouldnt like to see Antony Star lazering the crowd

well he took advantage of disable woman so thats that

Phrase*

@@joseanrodriguez2005 that's nothing new for Hollywood if true. Monsters win awards all the time

@@joseanrodriguez2005 We have had known pedophiles and assaulters win awards.

William is also another name for Bill/Billy, I love that he doesn't take threats from Homelander when he gives them, if Butcher had powers, he'd know how to control them (like Superman when he's learning how to fly), but later in episodes 5,6,7 and 8, he takes Compound V, that gives him heat-vision

"Now I know you're playing me, but you're right..."

​@@thomasp506 TFS reference, nice 👍

That's exactly what I thought as Butcher pauses for a moment before responding "yes... it does" he might not agree, but he wants to see how it plays out if he plays along with homelanders game

The only supe that was never afraid of Homelander was Soldier Boy

I understand that reference 🙂

Nice one

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That sounds......familiar

Ha! That was a great lin-

Yea once he controls it properly

Honestly I'm not sure how I feel about Butcher seemingly having the same powerset as Homelander, and it really comes down to the fact that it's so statistically improbable for that to happen, it's hard to suspend disbelief watching it. Still, they are basically the same person, and seeing how he handles Homelanders powers is gonna be quite interesting

His powers will probably be limited

@@antonioskontonasakis Hmmm, I think you are missing the point. Sure, the Compound V grants everyone random sets of abilities but that randomness is based on their inner nature. Both Homelander and BB are hot headed , narcissistic , short tempered individuals. The Heat Vision and Super strength manifests that nature as their abilities granted by Compound V.

@@Zeegoku1007 well said

Until Nilly gets the V and can hurt him physically and mentally.

​@@mitchjames9350billy gets temp v and still can't even 1v3 him dude

But he already did. He r4p3d his wife.

​@@Ken-ru6orButcher was winning that 1v1 fym💀

@@beastmaster8485yeah

In other words, Butcher and Homelander are two sides of the same coin, the other half of both of them

@@nicolasdiez7688 batman and joker

@@sirmcsir2080 exactly

Or Neil and Hanna in Heat.

Or Hotel and Trivago

Butcher is pretty much the only "friend" Hommelander has.

Or it’s a hallucination

@@kenthefele113 its not.

@@kenthefele113 nope, in a later episode they bring up the scorched earth line again

Wow that's actually a great comparison

@@Arandomguy352 more like a rattle snake

Butcher is smarter than Homelander, and Homelander is stronger than Butcher. It evens things out.

This show is pretty mid, but very watchable.

Yeah best show since 2021

@@hardnewstakenharder It’s better than Kenobi that’s for sure.

@@hardnewstakenharder what’s not a mid show then

@@kwesietsibah2917 lol

Nah it’s definitely a hallucination and I reckon we will see a future conversation between the pair that is similar

@@jacksonboyd homelander never opened up to butcher about how he feels before. The dialogue is too specific.

it's very obviously an externalisation of Butcher's own thinking, i.e. Homelander isn't really there

@@Iagoingsoc I never thought about it until I saw this comment section but yeah it's very clearly a hallucination. The batman vanish makes more sense and the specifics in HL dialogue as well.

Wth guys it's clearly real you can just tell from the way he acts

“Someone to vent to?” Interesting perspective. It’s strange, Butcher and Homelander seem like they relate to each other in this scene. Butcher feels like he’s under the thumb of the new organization that polices Supes, not being able to go as wild as he used to. Homelander feels the same but about Vought. Despite being enemies, or perhaps because of it, they understand each other on a much deeper level than anyone else.

Was it just 24 hours? I thought butcher was having side effects longer than 24 hours. Edgar said he was still “working out the kinks and side effects of temp V” so I would assume that the first trial messed up

@@kyleraiff8637 It was 24 hours.

@@kyleraiff8637 yeah it's called 24hr V

Especially someone with government and military training like him, combined with his signature brand of savagery.

@@kyleraiff8637 I think his body was tryna eject the residue once the 24 hours was up, not very fun experience

Yeah I noticed that.

In other words, Butcher and Homelander are two sides of the same coin. They need each other to have a purpuse in life

Butcher is the only person Homelander can trust to be straight with him

@@nicolasdiez7688 I think Butcher can move on more so than John who craves affection etc.

Butcher is honesly more anti-hero or even anti-villain than a hero lol

​@@acemerceramv8561 he is a villain.

It's actually better than the comics. The TV series takes the best parts of the comic and dials down the try-hard edgy parts of it and turns it into something far more interesting.

People forgetting homelander is super lazy with his powers in most cases, treats everything like a chore unless driven

I think it’s just a hallucination because Homelander also has X-ray vision so he’d be able to see the compound v in the jar

@@sachemofboston3649 Nah, he is really confident in his powers. We have seen multiple times that he simply doesn't care about that sort of thing, since he knows nothing can harm him.

Diabolical is a different universe as you can tell from the different Maeve etc.

@@mitchjames9350 the show runner confirmed some episodes were cannon and some were not

To be fair Butcher isn't a normal guy

Regular Joe? Butcher is equally if not more intimidating than homelander.

Did you just call Butcher a "regular Joe"?

@@neil351 I think he means as in regular human , we all know homelander would rip butcher to pieces if butcher had no V

@@GrifterTheBoyIdiot he isn't a regular human.

To whom to believe his "heroics" he needs his perfect nemesis..butcher is that

Oh my some Amazon scrub found this comment interesting gg’s bruv

What are you loving so far about Season 3?

So far, Homelander is stealing the show for me. Everytime he's on screen, I'm on the edge of my seat; specifically, the scene with A-Train. That, and seeing more of Soldier Boy.

​@@PrimeVideoUKyour mum

Or wokeness.

It's too late for that already, if the mcu ever decides to go serious it should be after a spiderman movie or daredevil

Too late for that. Marvel will never learn.

they have the golden duck, they dont need writers

Thought about that scene too while watching. McCauley (De Niro) and Hanna (Pacino) don't hate each other like Butcher and Homelander though.

Would you serve Homelander a cup of tea? 😅

I honestly don't think either of them are protagonists. They're both deeply scarred and twisted, Butcher just hasn't become a total psychopath. At least not yet.

I think they do respect each other in their own twisted ways even though they hate each other.

@@danieldickson8591 maybe not in a normal sense they're the driving forces for the show 🦖

@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 reluctant respect on homelander's end But it seems clear butch sees nothing redeemable in him

@@interviolet6675 Butcher doesn't, but he also knows that he can be just as ruthless as Homelander, only that he has a Punisher-style code of not hurting innocent people.

He does once in the comics.

In the comics homelander is powerful but not indestructible.

I imagine homelander would take a punch from someone his caliber about as well as a human does from another human, albeit with more collateral damage.

@@christopherballard1348 You have to factor in that Homelander has never once felt physical pain in his life.

@@christopherballard1348 that's probably true but with one important detail: not every human takes a punch the same,some would get knocked out immediately,some would go into shock and some would swing right back

the main giveaway that this scene is a hallucination is butcher very blatantly looks over at the jar. Homelander has X-ray vision, if he was really there he’d look at the jar too and tell there’s compound v in there

@@sachemofboston3649 Plus the incident with the TV the next episode as well. I had not seen that yet when I wrote this comment.

Well you are right. After episode 6 it's confirmed that homelander was real in this scene

He’s the world’s greatest hero

" Scorched Earth "

Scorched earfffff

But who's doing the lasering?

@@PrimeVideoUK Homelander LOL

*invincible title card*

Yeah the scene was set up to be unclear as to whether it was real or a hallucination so I’m confused why everyone in the comments is acting confident that it was real

​@@DuckyTheParasaurolophus im 100% sure it's a hallicunation. he can't just teleport he had to get up and walk to the balcony and fly, notice how when he looked at the compund v homelander vanished? he was just justifying using it to himself EDIT: i was wrong, appearantly it actually happened. it was confirmed it ep6

yea some people are saying that this is hallucination caused by william taking the green serum which also coincide with other hallucinations he sees

@@homacritic exactly lol

@@homacritic To add to this, I also find it odd how Homelander doesn’t seem to have a specific purpose for being there. Just a vague ‘we should have a showdown at some point’ talk. Plus he neither brings up Ryan nor Maeve, the latter of whom he would presumably have heard in Butcher’s house hence why he specifically revealed himself after she left.