Well to be fair, Injustice Superman was only broken. He was not a psychopath like Homelander to begin with, hence why he still saves innocent people in a harsher way. Thought what he did to Shazaam was f*** up.
@@holyflame2 I agree with your opinion, even if Superman was mislead his cause was for a greater good, he wanted to avoid wars and keep peace at any cost but was so blindly mislead by his ideology he forgot what was the real meaning of his cause in the first place, Homelander never had that to begin with, he just wants to create a superficial imagine that he can sell to the public to be adored, but behind the scenes he's evil as f*ck
Yep, first thought wasnt some variation of "Oh no, thats terrible, im going to miss her" it was "How could she do this to me?"Says pretty much everything about who he is.
As I was watching this I thought he meant that she actually cared for her and was in disbelief she would hurt him on his birthday, but you're right. It was just because she stole his thunder (no pun intended)
It seems more complicated than that. He doesn't even believe that he has a birthday after all. It feels more like an expression of "what else could go wrong". On what's suppose to be the happiest day of the year, he looses the closet thing he's experienced to love.
Let this be a lesson to the unfortunate who crosses paths with Homelander: The moment Homelander confides in you or 'lets out his feelings' well, let's just say.... He knows you won't tell *anyone*
The thing I hate about this scene is that, even as Homelander describes, if she did jump, he could just fly down and save her; yet nobody questions how he did nothing to save her life when she was falling.
I dont think people knew he was up there. Notice how Ashley says "he could be flying down any second" at 0:48 even though Homelander literally already was up there
@@Leandtjen I'm just surprised nobody was in any of the taller buildings around her. Nobody taking videos out the window of the girl about to jump and seeing Homelander. People like to see what is going on when police are parked outside their building. All those balconies and nobody on them.
@@nolansaylor7710every building is owned by vought. It’s made unbelievably clear that no supe has ever actually saved someone. It’s all fake. Ryan says it himself “I wanna help people, like actually help people” because he figures out it’s ALL fake. Vought needs exclusive footage of the saves or it’s not marketable.
@@nolansaylor7710do you prefer the parallel version from the comic, where Homelander picks up the family from that party (where there was a prize car?) & essentially had a (almost) one-2-one dialogue as this scene in the video, considering that in the comics... there's less contrivance from a writing perspective based on where the show differentiated from this scene in correspondence to the comic.
@@reykhan2453 Doesn't he literally say that he doesn't know when his birthday is in this clip at 1:56? Along with a lot of other things about his origin that season 4 showed to be incorrect, implying that the scientists at Vought probably didn't tell him anything at all about where he actually came from?
Was he actually born though or made in an incubator? If he was not implanted in a woman as an embryo then he wouldn't have a date of birth, only perhaps date of conception and approximate date of viability for unassisted survival.
it's from the comics. a family wins some dinner with homelander nonsense and he flies their car up to like jet levels until they can't breathe - to a meeting with the other supes he organized to begin pushing them to take over the white house - then he drops them
After watching the fake save they were making for Ryan first heroic i'm starting to believe that she was probably never gonna jump and was hired to act suicidal for Homelander's birthday save
There were actual moments where The 7 did look for actual crime to stop. They just had cameras at the ready so they could gain popularity. Remember when Starlight had to team up with The Deep? Or when Maeve and Homelander really did try to save the plane from terrorists?
idk its his girlfriend, he was just upset she killed herself on his birthday of all days. but yea he was sad, and upset by her suicide but as well his day of all days.
Textbook narcissm. When you parents divorce and the first thing you think is "how could they do this to me?" you're also very close because you don't consider your parents as humans having their own life.
I heard a sense of loss and grief in his voice and his expression when he said that. The "I'm going to miss her" was sub-textualized in "it's my birthday." By the way, we all have some Homelander in us, or else we wouldn't find him compelling.
Honestly though I didn't see that much of narcissism there. I mean there is some subtle narcissism right there, when he said that but he isn't very narcissist in that particular moment. He loved her, and as seen later on he's just grieving next to her blood stains. He loved her a lot, and did call her a God here, and after her death he basically goes on the process of going completely unhinged. She was the last thing in his life that kept him sane and more controlled. She was the only one except Ryan to whom he showed compromise, and for a while, also Maeve.
it was staged cuz when Homelander appears he said "You're my anual birthday save" meaning that happens every year, as any save on the show is staged by Vought
First of all, “annual birthday save” is underrated because Homelander, who needs love and adoration, is given a situation each year where he can swoop in and be a hero. Meaning Vought is tracking and/or causing these events to happen, presumably to keep Homelander in a leash
It's cool how they switch up the best bits from the comics to be more fitting in the show. The "only man in the sky is me" line is used before he kills a family of his supporters in the comics, and it's one of the more iconic moments, but it's much more fitting here.
Anthony Starr’s acting is absolutely phenomenal, and I hadn’t even heard of him until this show unfortunately. After the dozens of clips I’ve seen posted here on RU-vid, I totally get why this show had such a huge following prior to the fan backlash I’ve seen regarding the most recent episodes (again, I wouldn’t know). His portrayal of Homelander is so frighteningly good, using the term ‘acting’ would almost be an insult to what he’s accomplished with this role. He’s one of very few actors that truly embodies every aspect of the character, from the good, to the bad, & everything in between. It’s that much more impressive because of the sheer complexity of the character. You have to have the ability to seamlessly fuse all the complex traits Homelander exhibits, without making any of the intricacies overlap with one another, if ya understand what I mean. He’s able to show the toxicity of his entitlement & narcissistic behavior, while also not letting you forget what ‘made’ him the way he is, aka the severe childhood trauma he experienced; from manipulation, torture, abandonment, his fruitless need for validation, and how it all subsequently factors into his choices. I’ve only seen a few people accurately portray someone with complex personality disorders, so it’s very compelling to see him in go full manic, switching from anger, to confusion & grief, right back to a straight up malicious killer with ease. From his line delivery, to the body language, and most importantly the subtle facial expressions that flow along with his manic episodes. Starr quite literally IS Homelander from what I’ve seen, and I couldn’t name another living actor that could pull this off. I think today is finally the day I start the series and binge it over the next few lazy days at home. Nobody will read this, but I enjoyed breaking down my opinion ✌🏻☮️
I think you described Anthony Starr’s performance pretty well. I’m planning on seeing the show as well at some point since I have a few friends who said it’s good
The fact that he's not really antisemitic, but the moment that he sees that Stormfront killed herself, he immediately starts throwing demeanor gestures towards Chelsie being jewish, like taking a part of Stormfront to carry on within, even if he doesn't believe in the "white genocide" that Stormfront believed or Chelsie being jewish, he doesn't really cares about that, but he pretends to care because he doesn't believe in anything anymore
You might be overthinking it. "I'm jewish" is a common joke american media used for decades. Guy 1 says something smthn christian. Guy 2 can't say arab. And eastern religions are too far for the american audience. The only one left is judaism.
Asking the white majority to become a minority on live television sure seems like a pretty crazy statement. Mass replacement of white people via unmitigated immigration seems like a pretty crazy thing to do. But yeah I’m sure it’s all made up and isn’t grounded in reality at all.
"If you jump I'll fly down I'll save you anyway" So basically she'd have been his first actual save ever if there wasn't a huge screen streaming Stormfront's death conveniently placed there?
Interesting that heroes of that caliber really only die from suicide. Cause they’re the only ones strong enough to damage themselves. Makes me think that might be how Homelander’s story would end
That's why Vought spent millions in the best psychologist to make him a needy boy who needs constant affirmation and love. That way, if he wants to remain being loved by the people he would never destroy a city or things like that
What do you mean "worse"? He is already a maniac who laughs at death, blood and gore like its nothing, all behind a facade of a superhero. He is intelligent, duplicitous, manipulative and straight up evil, not just to civilians but his own "friends" (A-Train for example).
I'm not well educated on Judaism, so...at the risk of asking a question that makes me look like a total moron, is that more or less awful than Christian Hell?
@@myremedy7691sheol is more like an underworld, a dark void. The fire and punishment angle was injected into it later by the Christians, probably to encourage buying indulgences from the church but I dunno.
While this is crazy entertaining, when you stop and think about it, its rather ridiculous. Homelander is standing on a rooftop in the middle of a suicide situation, while surrounded completely by other skyscrapers. Literally hundreds, if not thousands, of people looking out of the windows, would surely be using their cell phones to record the world's most famous man talking to a kid, then lighting his lasers up, and then she cries and jumps off while he just stands there. It would be the end of Homelander, immediately.
Ashley apologizing to Maeve. Turning the camera off. Deleting footage of Maeve surviving. She finally acts like a human. But then goes on to tickle poor Hughie's feet.
@@Omega0850 You're right. I can guarantee a large amount of people would turn out like him if they're supes who are also raised the same way as homelander. They're lucky he only turned like this. Imagine a vengeful Homelander that despises humanity and doesn't care what happens from the start.
"You dont want to go to hell. "Im Jewish" Ok, and? Most of the jewish people i know believe in hell, so what does that have to do with anything? I swear the writers for these shows have never gone outside and talked to people.
It's widely known there is no equivalent to hell (the stereotypical eternal torment Homelander was clearly referencing here) in Judaism. I swear these youtube commenters never take 3 seconds to google anything.
@@yawgmoth6568 also for the record, I have spoken to a jewish rabbi who leads a synagogue near me many times. They 100% believe hell exsists, just not in the same way Christians do.
"I was there when you were born. We paid some runaway $2000 to carry you to term. You lasered yourself out of her womb and you were floating in the air, like some creature out of myth....*scoff* or nightmare." Yea Homelander, you were born and you do have a birthday. Vought just didn't tell you and "chose" a birthday for marketing bs
Annual birthday save? Really??? I completely missed that line when I first watched this scene. Actually being a hero is saved only for special occassions? Homelander and Vought are such scum lol
Well as if I needed to hate Homelander even more... This would have me trying to hunt him down *personally* and yes, imagine a scrawny little nobody trying to take on Evil Superman. But I would. He deserves nothing less than stubborn, unrelenting anger.
You basically described Hughie. Except he wanted A-Train. But you, like every other human on this show, is nothing to Homelander. A pest. A toy. He'd be more mad that you had the audacity to try to kill him, than any actual attempt.
Here's some proof about Stormfronts "suicide". It was The Liberator who found Stormfront and ripped out her tongue and the best part about it, nobody in Vought knows he exists. So it was ruled out as a suicide but it wasn't to The Liberator. This was the Revenge of a century's old civilian who never asked to be experimented with Compound V or to witness the death of his own people. The Liberator is not a Jew but he refers to Jews, Romanians, Homosexuals, and others as his people. Now that both Vought and Stormfront are dead, meaning The Liberator killed Vought and ruled it out as natural causes. He will be going towards his ultimate goal of avenging his family because Homelander killed them. When a man who has outlived everyone around him and has lost everything he's bound to Holy Vengeance. Killing Homelander and destroying Vought International will give this very old man the peace he's longed for.
there's one problem if you can control this super people. So much for "Greater power comes greater responsibility" if only it doesn't manifest to fantasy. Freedom is power, then what we do that then.
I know that this is a fan favorite, but I guess dark manufactured heroes isn’t my bag…tried watching the first season, but seemed like a variation of Bright urn…supers twisted into our worst nightmares…The actor doing Homelander is doing a great job though…super nut job deluxe edition