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Honda CB650R CBR650 Lams Derestriction | How to de restrict 

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Walk through for Honda 650 derestriction (LAMS) CBR650 & CB650R air filter upgrade, Trumpet replacement & intake mod.
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@subhajitsaha3373
@subhajitsaha3373 3 месяца назад
Awesome work guys 😮
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 3 месяца назад
Thank you 🙏
@adrienczajkowski6462
@adrienczajkowski6462 9 месяцев назад
Man I can’t get over how much those intakes are restricted! But it makes sense now why a 650cc in-line 4 makes so little power from factory
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 9 месяцев назад
I agree. I didn't expect so much restriction, but it's a good sign to see how much potential this thing has.
@user-kn8gn6zp4o
@user-kn8gn6zp4o 10 дней назад
man you sound like such a cool bloke, great video lads!
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 10 дней назад
😅 I have my moments. Where are you from?
@Noony79
@Noony79 Месяц назад
Derestricted my bike at its first service with a custom tune for my Akro and dna air filter. done 50k on tune and it’s not missed a beat. Will do 115kph in first.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee Месяц назад
👍 sick!
@SasuRevenge
@SasuRevenge 8 месяцев назад
I apologize for ignorance, but these derestrictions in practice what improvements do they make?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 8 месяцев назад
That's OK. In Australia and many other places, these bikes are power restricted for safety reasons to suit new riders. Once you remove these restrictions, the bike has alot more capabilities for power.
@cuboid_android
@cuboid_android 7 месяцев назад
Maybe I missed it, but did you actually get the check engine light coming up? Or, was it all good?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 7 месяцев назад
No engine light yet, but it definitely would have caused some issues if we kept riding it without a tune.
@mrphoonda
@mrphoonda 4 месяца назад
2021 CBR 650 R here, exact same process in EU beside it is also electronically restricted, needs ECU Flashing.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 4 месяца назад
Yes definitely. 🙏
@MenderSlen579
@MenderSlen579 8 месяцев назад
Is the air filter nessecery?or does the lams and full powered version use the same filter?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 8 месяцев назад
It's not going to be 100% necessary, but I would always recommend a better flowing filter.
@Noony79
@Noony79 Месяц назад
You can post your ecu to Dynobike in Melbourne. They will flash it with full power version and post it back. Costs about $500
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee Месяц назад
I'm not a huge fan of bench tunes. Yes, it's better than nothing... but a detonating engine costs alot more than a custom tune. 😅
@Bok2022st
@Bok2022st 4 месяца назад
You said doing this would make it blow up. Is that right or do you need have to also get it tuned because of the changes? Can you leave it without the tune.?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 4 месяца назад
You can ride it without tuning it, but it could cause some engine damage without a tune & it won't make full power.
@CRBN74
@CRBN74 3 месяца назад
You need to have the ECU remapped to release full engine performance. I doubt this made a big difference as fully unrestricting a CB650 will DOUBLE its power output.
@zigmundsmelders9286
@zigmundsmelders9286 7 месяцев назад
Restriction is for A2 licence (35kW). If you just swap intake “trompets”, it does not changes anything, restricted software remains. ECU flashing required also
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 7 месяцев назад
All countries & states have different rules regarding what makes a bike legal etc. But these mods definitely do make the bike more powerful without an ecu tune. 👍
@rangelnz9055
@rangelnz9055 5 месяцев назад
can you remove with power commander?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 5 месяцев назад
@rangelnz9055 I would assume so.
@noahkammholz1847
@noahkammholz1847 4 месяца назад
Do you know where do i get the software from?👀
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 4 месяца назад
@@noahkammholz1847 take it to a tuning specialist... it's far cheaper than blowing up your engine. 👍
@giovannipolito2431
@giovannipolito2431 2 месяца назад
does it need a changing mapping too for get original full power?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 2 месяца назад
Yes. You MUST remap to get power & make sure you don't damage you engine.
@lucasmerten1013
@lucasmerten1013 4 месяца назад
Do you need to drain the tank before removing it? Or can you just take it off with the fuel still being inside?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 4 месяца назад
Nope, the quick fitting will seal itself. You will drip a little bit, so have a cloth underneath & it will be OK.
@lucasmerten1013
@lucasmerten1013 4 месяца назад
@@mitchdoescoffee alright, thanks!
@jpg_media6725
@jpg_media6725 2 месяца назад
Can you get the exact ECU files online ? If I were to take into a shop and provide the files myself
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 2 месяца назад
Every bike is different... I always steer clear of "bench tuning" even a different brand air filter will make the tune different
@OopsNoLife
@OopsNoLife 8 месяцев назад
Have you flashed it yet/ taken it to dyno
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 8 месяцев назад
No, not yet... the owner is potentially doing some other upgrades before spending the money on a tune.
@iulikdev
@iulikdev Месяц назад
Hi, did you change map on the bike?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee Месяц назад
The owner ended up changing the parts back & selling it before it had been tuned, but if you do this mod I would highly recommend getting it tuned.
@izakf5301
@izakf5301 Месяц назад
Hey guys, planning to do the same. Where did you order the parts?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee Месяц назад
Partzilla. Just remember you need 2 of them. 😅 www.partzilla.com/product/honda/17225-MJE-DB0
@izakf5301
@izakf5301 Месяц назад
@@mitchdoescoffee Yes of course 😁 Thank you!
@TxRedline
@TxRedline 5 месяцев назад
Because of the accent i thought when he said "in the bin" i was expecting to see Marty from MightyCarMods
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 5 месяцев назад
🤣 I'm so glad someone got the reference.
@lukebarnsley6710
@lukebarnsley6710 13 дней назад
pretty sure what you just cut out was there to prevent rain being sucked into the airbox as well as bugs and other bad stuff
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 13 дней назад
A little extra cold air won't hurt 😎
@morpheus2615
@morpheus2615 Месяц назад
Is it also that restricted on the 95HP version?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee Месяц назад
No, this is the main restriction to lower the HP. The 95hp version is already done. 👍
@aja8590
@aja8590 6 месяцев назад
Does my head in that Honda Australia doesn’t just offer unrestricted versions of the CB650R and CBR650R. Yamaha does with the R7.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 6 месяцев назад
I don't think Honda has enough "street cred" to warrant that option just yet... The MT07/R7 platform has been around so long that it is known as the superior option. It's also a very different configuration of bike... the MT/R7 is a very torque focussed engine. So even derestricted is makes alot less power than the Honda.
@aja8590
@aja8590 6 месяцев назад
@@mitchdoescoffee Honda Motorcycles lack “street cred”? First time I’ve ever heard that. The swap that you did in this video and an ECU flash (and you need to flash the ECU) is all that is required to bring the CB650R/CBR650R back up from a gimped 50HP to 94HP. Mentioning Yamaha had nothing to do with torque vs HP, it was the fact that Yamaha Australia will sell you a LAMS compliant version or an unrestricted version of the same model bike from new. Honda Australia can’t be bothered.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 6 месяцев назад
@aja8590 I mean this particular bike... the MT07 is by far the most popular fun Lams bike in Aus. Intake tubes, air filter, tune & you will also need an exhaust of some sort to get close to that magic 100hp
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 5 месяцев назад
I would buy an CB650R over an MT07 if they were both offered as full power versions. Looks better, buttery smooth inline 4, better suspension and brakes. It’s a no brainer for me. I have wanted a CB650R since they were released in 2018 but Honda AUS/NZ won’t give it to us as a full power model. I’ve emailed them multiple times about it. They’re missing out on sales because I won’t ride a modified LAMS bike. If you crash into an expensive car your insurance will be invalid.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 5 месяцев назад
@@The.JZA. easy solution... don't crash. 🤣
@paraj5582
@paraj5582 2 месяца назад
does the intake noise get better?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 2 месяца назад
Sure does! No more choking sound
@Saantiix
@Saantiix Месяц назад
Did any engine light pop up?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee Месяц назад
No. But it definitely wasn't happy & would cause some engine damage if it was left untuned.
@edsoncampos8947
@edsoncampos8947 4 месяца назад
This is only in Europe right? The US version comes open?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 4 месяца назад
I'm not 100% certain. But I believe it's world wide.
@Mobo_ent
@Mobo_ent 29 дней назад
Depends. Here in Malaysia it comes with 94hp and 64 torque
@hungrymynd5673
@hungrymynd5673 6 дней назад
Do I need to do this mod in Canadian version?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 5 дней назад
Hey mate. Thanks for reaching out. I've done some research & I really can't find anything that confirms or denies this. I would recommend popping the air filter out and having a quick look. 👍
@Gottaloveguitars427
@Gottaloveguitars427 3 месяца назад
In Canada they come unrestricted and make about 94hp
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 3 месяца назад
They are such a cool little bike. 👍
@rhyssanders9122
@rhyssanders9122 7 месяцев назад
bloke at the bike shop told me it was just straight up illegal, and it would void your rego and stuff - if you did do it and they found that you had de-restricted it would they report it? is it even worth it? just because LAMS bikes are just able to be sold for way more so your resale would drop like a stone just for a bit of power?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 7 месяцев назад
Without stripping the bike down, how would anyone ever know? 😄
@iampyron22
@iampyron22 7 месяцев назад
Technically an exhaust makes a lams bike not lams. It is what it is lol. Only an issue if you have full comp and they look into your bike if you have a big stack
@taz2311
@taz2311 19 дней назад
Who cares, cheap bike anyways
@Deuxiit
@Deuxiit 16 дней назад
here they place these to down grade from 70kw A licence to 35kw A2 licence.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 15 дней назад
Ah yes. These bikes are so restricted from factory.
@diogovilano4209
@diogovilano4209 8 месяцев назад
where can i buy derestriction lams?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 8 месяцев назад
www.partzilla.com/product/honda/17225-MJE-DB0
@diogovilano4209
@diogovilano4209 8 месяцев назад
@@mitchdoescoffee When I buy it, does it only come with two air inlets or does it come with 4 air inlets? And electronics, can you buy a control unit already reprogrammed for original full power?
@ridenitro99
@ridenitro99 6 месяцев назад
I already have my honda cbr 650 R in london . I have full licence . And it has the power . So still lams will make make bike more power ?
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 6 месяцев назад
@@ridenitro99 every country is slightly different. I honestly don't know if your bike is derestricted or not.
@ChrisWilliams-om5vq
@ChrisWilliams-om5vq 3 месяца назад
Dammit. They dont ship to NZ. 🤨@@mitchdoescoffee
@Maltry
@Maltry 8 месяцев назад
Definitely need an ECU flash. Without that youre running far too lean.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 8 месяцев назад
For sure. It wasn't happy 😅
@CRBN74
@CRBN74 3 месяца назад
Why to lean?! The amount of air admitted to the engine remains the same 650cc per revolution! With or without restriction, the chambers' total volume will be fully filled with air!
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 3 месяца назад
@CRBN74 Adding more air without adding more fuel = lean.
@CRBN74
@CRBN74 3 месяца назад
That's the point, you don't get more air in. Engine will breath better, but you will always get the same air volume, the same 650cc per revolution.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 3 месяца назад
@@CRBN74 push 1l of air through a small hose... it will take longer than 1l of air through a large hose. 👍
@doug1381
@doug1381 3 месяца назад
Would doing just the air filter still require a tune . That filter is trash
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee 3 месяца назад
No I highly doubt it. Doing the filter will probably just make it sound a bit better & maybe pick up 1 or 2 hp. 🤷‍♂️
@RoaminNowhere
@RoaminNowhere Месяц назад
I would just cut out the restrictive plastic.
@mitchdoescoffee
@mitchdoescoffee Месяц назад
That's also possible. But I don't want to be the one responsible for someone sucking leftover plastic under a valve. 😅
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