Honda Civic Rear Struts : When The S.H.T.F.

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In this video Eric does a bone head move and snaps off a bolt in the lower control arm that hold on the rear strut. The worst part is he is at work alone with all three kids and this is his only ride. No worries though, it's not his first rodeo. -Enjoy!
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@SouthMainAuto 6 лет назад

Just an FYI, had a customer come in today that was in desperate need of a car so I made him a great deal on the Lil Red Hondoo Civic. He was driving a very rotted out 1991 Accord. I just need to do a couple more small repairs on it so it is 100% then it is moving onto a new owner...

@beatkev4146 6 лет назад

South Main Auto Repair Good man! 🤟🏼

@3347861 6 лет назад

Knowing that you've maintained it would make me comfortable driving it to California. Just saying..... BTW, Nice save on the strut, Eric. Never let them see you sweat!

@flatratemaster 6 лет назад

Nice!

@petar443 6 лет назад

Are you going to buy a Mercedes ? :D Kidding :D

@aaronschoessow9567 6 лет назад

He's not going to buy a new car mrs. O is going to buy a new car! A new Hondoo VAN ! Lol... and yes Eric is going to start driving the old Honda van that mrs.O now drives! Lol For all you non married men that is how it works out when you're married! Lol

@craigscreek1 6 лет назад

Only ones that haven't broken a bolt are those that haven't worked on much...Happens to all of us!! Difference its knowing what to do when it happens, and move on with the repair. Great work as always!

@mwilson5789 6 лет назад

For those that do not have a torch, use a sawsall with a 7-9in blade on the inside edges of the bracket holding the bushing. It will take about 2-3 blades per side. When you cut at the bracket, you cut through the inside metal part of the bushing and the bolt. That way both ends of the bolt fall off and you can pull the remaining center piece straight down and out. That bolt has rusted and is for the most part, is part of the inside of the bushing

@GarthGoldberg 6 лет назад

You're working on your car, it's your only ride, you've got the three kids, and you've snapped off the bolt for which you don't have a spare. Hey, it's just like us!

@jamesberryman751 5 лет назад

Soooooo true...

@TheWarjunkie666 5 лет назад

And remember... if he can do it, we can do it :P

@pospc2 5 лет назад

I can relate to this. A few years ago i only had 2 cars,one of which jumped timing and bent valves(didn't have money to repair heads at the time) ended up having some issues with the other car and yep broke a bolt off. Thanks for friends to run me to the stores to get some left handed drills,seafoam and a small torch and a new bolt. So glad those days are over and i have 4 cars now,3 kids and got my finances straight.

@georgestone1485 5 лет назад

Murphy's LAW STRIKES AGAIN. I prefer Paul's AXIOM though. YOU CANNOT FALL OF THE FLOOR.

@ODST_SSGT 4 года назад

got to give him credit for not searing up a storm though. I know i would have.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 6 лет назад

Fantastic video, Eric. LOVE the masterful torch action. Most people would cry if they broke a bolt like that...you are unfazed!

@raymiller8797 6 лет назад

Eric, Had same problem, drilled holes into tube, through rubber bushing, and through inner sleeve shot kroil into it waited about an hour, hit it with impact, out they came. I replace the bolts as I had drilled into them slightly.

@SouthMainAuto 6 лет назад

Great idea Ray!

@mikeholt3545 6 лет назад

Kroil for the win!

@ericeiler7016 6 лет назад

RAY MILLER best idea I have heard of yet I will by using that first next time.

@Graham_Langley 6 лет назад

First thing I thought of, searched to see if someone else had the same idea and here it is. Nice to know it works.

@greatnortherntroll6841 6 лет назад

A rather novel approach... Sounds pretty good actually!

@danng4346 5 лет назад

Had done five civic struts. I felt your pain. I confessed that I broke it too. But getting smarter- heat up, spray penetrate, leave a day and remove it. Felt good when getting it done...

@g.harrismcgraw8325 6 лет назад

Always great to see kids working with and learning from their parents. It's a long lost tradition. Love your videos.

@johnschoon3280 6 лет назад

Eric, I've been working on cars for 50 plus years, and I think your videos are great. You always give thorough explanations as to what and why you are doing something. Many so called mechanics on RU-vid give incomplete and sometimes dangerous advice. I want to thank you for your great videos

@johnaclark1 6 лет назад

No brake cleaner?? Unsubscribed! Seriously, watching a pro recover from a mistake is often better than watching a pro do it right with all the right tools. What you did there is the real world and it's nice to know it happens to everyone!

@NotHarry-er3wg 6 лет назад

No No. She was there..Thats what he used in the spray bottle. It just the non flammable sort..

@anthonygeden7862 5 лет назад

Oh yeah!!

@ericstevenson7696 4 года назад

Well said. I like real world videos

@RandomsFandom 4 года назад

@@NotHarry-er3wg non flammable break cleaner... lol, you are dumb... no such thing

@Charlie_Crown 4 года назад

@@RandomsFandom Clearly he was jesting, were you? 😆

@nrvsauto8990 3 года назад

man, I can't believe I've been watching your repairs for this many years already. I've rewatched all these videos multiple times, the content is obviously very enjoyable. I've been a Technician for 10 years and am just happy to see other people that have to deal with Rust as much as i do haha. thanks for the great work and videos

@r.j.sworkshop7883 6 лет назад

I hate to pile on, but as a former WNY'er it is so amusing to watch you deal with rust and corrosion issues and think I am so happy I don't have to deal with that any more. Wyoming is so much easier on automobiles than Wyoming County is. Thanks for the videos.

@davidgillettuk9638 5 лет назад

Great to see you screw up like we all do - then recover the situation. The good thing about a rookie mistake is to see how to get out of it and the memory helps to stop us repeating the mistake. I love your honesty Eric, most guys wouldn't have posted this at all. 👍🏻

@KJ7XJ 6 лет назад

I had to call my Son over and have him watch the interaction with your kids. "See they do the same thing as you when I'm working in the garage" - Good stuff Dad!

@jessj3010 6 лет назад

I have raised 5 kids around major car repairs and now have a granson to take under my wing!

@davidhutcheson5375 5 лет назад

I found this really helpful - especially knowing that even super experienced pros hit a snag from time to time.

@alexandercahoulan6583 4 года назад

Hes HUMAN!! So comforting to see him do what I've done before.

@chrisgorgas1929 6 лет назад

Now you know how us shade tree mechanics feel. That's a typical day.

@markblanc5993 5 лет назад

Chris Gorgas Truest words sigh

@stephenwgreen78 6 лет назад

When you got through the and I've got all 3 children...and this is my only ride. My children looked at me like "why are you laughing daddy?". Seriously the hardest time I've laughed in a while.

@ryanhodges7101 6 лет назад

Hey Eric, Don’t be so hard on yourself man. That broken bolt could have happened to anyone.

@raymonddey7403 5 лет назад

Happened to me when I was doing my valve cover gasket. The person who did it before me over tourqed a bolt and stripped the threads in the valve cover and when I went to get it off it spun for a few turns then it snapped off inside :( broken bolts suck

@kpfalconi 2 года назад

My son is 4 right now, I cant wait until he’s a bit older to help me out in my garage/shop. Hes getting his first tool set for Xmas this year. Great stuff and god bless.

@brucefrencham2628 6 лет назад

Excellent vid. This is a typical scenario that faces every DIY shadetree mechanic, especially with the kids in the background trying to keep them busy.

@fuzzy19111 6 лет назад

When that bolt snapped it made me smile...not because I like to see Dr,O in distress but because I've been there and called myself every name in the book! We are our worst critics at times.

@Scrubworks 4 года назад

The fluted sections cut into some Honda suspension bolts like you mentioned do not work in preventing corrosion and seizing. Anyone who's changed the rear shocks on a 90s Civic or similar can testify to that.

@NotHarry-er3wg 6 лет назад

Yup Last week I fought the war as well on my 2010 f150 4wd. Had to replace the upper control arm because the ball joints were talking. The drivers side went well, just took me a a couple to a few hours after I figured out the stut needed to come out and I got the correct harbor freight socket for the lower strut bolt... came out like butter. This week I did the passenger and the lower nut would not come out and no torch. Had a couple of small air hammers and 2 to 3 hour later hammering. tightening soaking tightening hammering loosening. would move slightly but decided 3 hours was my limit., Ordered a Suntex super duty sx243 from the the Zon. Not sure if anyone has had this tool but I had to go back to my small 15.00 air hammer because it just did not have to power. (called Suntex because I thought it needed a break in period (oiled and Oiled)suntex wants it back and is sending a replacement) for whatever the reason 1.5 hours later using the same method (hammer tighten loosen. (Lather rinse repeat) and if finally came out just shortly after using the small air hammer. I should have just got big nasty, (and I will if this Suntex doesn't do the heavy hitting that I need) Ill just send it back to Amazon. There is no replacement for the proper tooling. So I wasted 5 hours for 2 upper control arms. Whatever dude.... It just needed a little exorcism. Next time i will be getting (and I would recommend) a priest to help me.

@NotHarry-er3wg 6 лет назад

Just read your selling the Hondoo 8:::::;?( ohhh wel'll miss her.. Edit im slow on the uptake ....I get it now!! Doo.H.T Hondoo B>))

@derschafer1012 5 лет назад

Don't you just love how rust turns a 15 minute job into an hour long epic conflagration? Me either. I feel your pain, though I imagine NY is slightly worse than here in NJ. It's all of the salty air along the coast and the 40 week rain season. Not to mention the brine they put down for snow in the other 12 weeks of the year. A coworker of mine, that we call Vegas, moved to NJ from Nevada (hence the name Vegas). He was struggling to loosen a jam nut while doing an alignment and as I was passing by I said "The blue wrench is in the corner by Stavros' toolbox." He looked at me like I had two heads and asked what the hell I was talking about. He worked as a mechanic for 18 years and never used a torch before.Can you imagine that? He worked on cars from the 70's in Las Vegas that had less rust than a 2 year old vehicle in NJ. He moved to Texas now. He claims that he moved there because of their lax gun laws, booming industry, high wages, low taxes, cheap land and incredible education system... but I think he just got sick of working on rusted out cars lol

@fonzo2525 6 лет назад

I was bored stiff, then i got the notification about the SMA video,all is well now,lol,thx Mr O.

@markbulva4188 Год назад

So the first time I changed front struts on my 14 F150 4x4 I had to cut the bottom of the strut off in order to get the two studs to release from the LCA. Was not impressed. Good job Eric O!

@joshwinky6005 6 лет назад

Man...I knew you were in trouble as soon as you said, "These are pretty easy"...

@mikeholt3545 6 лет назад

Yep that always goes sideways

@justindevincentz208 6 лет назад

And don't put your tools away before your totally finish. Bad things happen

@KECOG 5 лет назад

Another thing I NEVER say: "What ELSE can go wrong today?" I ALWAYS get my answer! Sometimes immediately!

@chrisclark5204 4 года назад

When he said these are pretty easy, he jinxed the job. Never say anything until the job is done.

@jerryc3050 4 года назад

lol

@delta999999 6 лет назад

Same thing happened to the rear shock on my Fit. I stopped before I broke anything and got a new bolt intending to cut the old one on each side of the shock to remove it. I started cutting the bolt with a Sawzall but didn't make it though either side because I ran out of good blades (either the bolt is really tough or my blades were really dull). I tried the impact wrench again and it finally broke loose, all the shaking from the Sawzall, penetrating oil, and praying must have broken the rust bond between the bolt and the bushing sleeve.

@kittty2005 5 лет назад

I'm old,never did a strut before,did some coil over shocks though,had a bolt-head break off, factory welded nut,well I can repeat what they did,got my smoke wrench and blew the nut off,choked my 16 pound sledge hammer and poked the bolt out of the bushing,one wack,put in new shocks and new bolts(3/8x24,grade 8) and corresponding lock-nuts,the pinching kind,got my arc welder and welded the nut in place,voila,like factory.Actually,the smoke wrench and welder belonged to my friend,as did the pit,cheaper than a hoist at that time,but the sledge was mine,was a great defense tool,played catch the hammer with a couple guys that wanted to harm me,but that's another story. You did a great job,except,if you know you're going to do this get some nuts and bolts,always,always,be prepared,we all have brain-farts under the car,I quit turning wrenches when my memory gaps started affecting my customers safety.

@chevysyndrome3510 6 лет назад

Gotta love all the Harbor Freight equipment your sporting. Thanks for all the Awesome videos!

@mike94560 6 лет назад

We remember the screw ups more than when it goes right. They give the best memories. You made me smile.

@hypnolobster 6 лет назад

I've run into this a handful of times. Process has always been roughly what you did. I find a little 000 tip on the cutting torch helps with the blasting fire around situation. Had decent luck one time when I didn't have a torch. Cut the strut off with a 3" grinder and got in there and cut the outer sleeve with the grinder by just sort of wasting the metal away left and right, repeated on the inner. Slower, but if I had serious worries with fire I'd do that again.

@inultus1 Год назад

I know this is an older video but in Michigan here I almost did the exact same thing on the same bolt, rear struts on a CRV. I was using an impact and the bolt backed out a little but then stopped. Thankfully I had a knowledgeable friend who said stop, heat it up, then run in and out a bit with the impact, then when it starts moving go full bore for removal. It needs heat to melt the factory loctite. Since he was a race car mechanic I trusted his word and made it out with no snappage. Hope that advice helps others, Michigan is just as bad with rust as NY.

@lorrinbarth1969 6 лет назад

Bolts didn't used to seize in bushings. The problem was solved years ago and then unsolved.

@ethansmith8813 3 года назад

Yup. I usually use a finger and put silver anti seize when i change them.

@wastelandroach1312 6 лет назад

I have been working on cars for 27 years and have been in the same situation many times. The way you did it is the way I do it. Other than that it would take a lot longer and you would beat the hell out of yourself quick to get the job done.

@CTSCAPER 6 лет назад

2:14 "I think these things are pretty easy to change." - That, my friend, is why you got screwed. I thought someone with your experience would know better than to say that. I would grab a 6" cutting wheel and zip through both sides of the bushing as close to the holder as possible. Once I cut the middle a little persuasion would hopefully do the job. I learned that trick, and bought the bigger grinder, replacing the shackles on my '02 2500 Dodge. OMG that was a horrible experience. Because I'm a sissy I would be wearing googles, a p100 respirator and have a big fan blowing on me while working.

@christianhowes2 6 лет назад

I was thinking along the same lines, but how would you get the threaded end out? Drill it?

@jamesdutton226 6 лет назад

ive done the same , an exhaust cutter does a good job of cutting through the bolt, bit slow , but no mess or damage,..

@danmackintosh6325 6 лет назад

If the threaded end isn't seized, then slot the end (or grind flats) and wind it out with a suitable tool. (a lot of times I've found that once the stress has been relieved from it, the stub will even wind out with pliers).

@TheDroolpan 6 лет назад

Unless this is your trade and wrenching on a daily basis I doubt your going to teach Eric anything. Just saying, not meant to be offensive. I'm a journeyman in a trade myself. Just gets under a tradesman skin when everyone wants to give their pro tips. If your not in the same trade it isn't polite to give your advice if the tradesman hasn't asked for input. Again I'm not meaning to be offensive, just a view from our point of view. Cheers

@danmackintosh6325 6 лет назад

None taken, I'm not school qualified but self taught & I think the big thing to take away is that it's best to only try to make suggestions based on past experience. Main reason for posting here is to share the idea with anyone that might have a similar issue and not thought of that method yet. Surprising how easy it is to forget something really simple like slotting/flatting the end of a broken/cut bolt, and it's not only Eric who reads these comments. Agree it can stick in the throat to be told how to do ones job, but equally I welcome suggestions.

@timfisher77 4 года назад

greetings fron arizona nothing rusts here!!! I just put new leafsprings and shocks on all 4 corners of a 1966 Wagoneer & nothing was seized, nothing twisted off

@zoidberg444 6 лет назад

Watching how you deal with stuff when it goes to shit especially with New York rust is one of the most helpful things about your channel Eric. Every time i bust something i ask myself WWED - What would Eric do? Normally it involves a grinder, a large hammer and a very big bar...

@matthewmartin7639 5 лет назад

I did that once in A+P school for my aircraft mechanics certificate. Engine overhaul class. Putting the exhaust back on. I was by myself. Put in a 12 hour day of classes, running down to the wire. If it doesn't run by noon the next day we would've failed the class. Engine is ON THE STAND! Only thing left is putting the exhaust manifold on and then the test propeller. Half of them on the EM were studs with nuts and half of them were bolts going directly into the crank case. Of course it's all going upside down at about waist level (most back breaking level for a 6'3" guy). I put the torque wrench on the wrong bolt that had already been torqued and "ker-click"...ended up removing the whole cylinder and spending 4 hours fixing that mistake. Never broken a bolt since.

@DougHinVA 3 года назад

I hired a mobile mechanic who had done a lot of work for UPS for decades and had him put in 4 new struts I ordered carefully for my 1999 build Corolla. Glad it was him and not me... and it showered part way through it (in August in VA).

@alicewright7341 5 лет назад

I recommend picking up a pipe wrench or two sometime. When you have to do the vise grip, twist adjust repeat it makes it a lot quicker

@sgtsawhill1 5 лет назад

Had that happen with front leaf spring bushing. Half a bottle of Mapp gas and BFH. Thanks for your channel! Learning more from you than SK!

@buixote 5 лет назад

Any possibility of drilling out the bolt? Love the videos... it's nice to see that it's just not us rookies getting ourselves into "situations". It's the *pros* who know how to *get out*!

@texasveteran5304 5 лет назад

I really enjoyed watching you struggle with the seized bolts. Very interesting. Especially how you were so resourceful in getting replacement bolts without a ride, all with 3 little kids behaving themselves and even helping you install the bolt. I used to live in NE with the snow, ice, salt and rust. I am always amazed at how easy it is to work on cars in Texas.

@wyattoneable 6 лет назад

There's always a lot in your videos in which one could comment. I find it a challenge to pick one area but for this one I'll just say that GTO was a good helper. :)

@BobPegram 6 лет назад

Eric O. Your son's initials are "GTO"? Did Mrs. O not catch that when you proposed his "T" middle name? ROFLOL! Of course, it could have been serendipity. You aren't saying which, right?

@justsomerandomguy7515 4 года назад

These videos make me glad I live where nothing rusts. WOW

@jannepo 6 лет назад

1) drill 2-3 holes downward through the ring and the bushing, 3-4 mm drill 2) loosen the nut and then tighten it really tight when wheel is all the way down 3) fill the holes with penetrating oil 4) drive it for a week

@Ivo-- 6 лет назад

Eric, I have great respect for people who are not afraid to show their mistakes, this was an excellent video.

@jessyshaq23 6 лет назад

There ain't much u can do when u have a stuck bolt with a captured nut like that.. the way u did it is the way I do it.. but I have found if I can air hammer on the front of the bolt and impact on the head of the bolt at the same time they almost always come out . Such as shackle bolts and what not.

@joubess 2 года назад

I slathered the bolt shanks with never-seize when I put in the new struts. Two years out, those bolts still move pretty easily. I also used lady slipper and a hammer to push the bolts out of the holes.

@boba9170 5 лет назад

I love that you let us see everything. Even the mistakes.

@KurtisSaiyo 6 лет назад

Thanks for the great videos. Now that I have prior knowledge what I'm watching here, I would just buy new bolts FIRST, cut them out (forget about saving them) and then... business as usual.

@russellstephan6844 6 лет назад

I'm very fortunate to be within easy bicycle trips to O'Reilly, Advance, AutoZone, and NAPA , along with Home Depot and Lowe's. The counter folk at the auto parts stores find it positively hilarious I always show up on the bicycle.

@CCWSig 6 лет назад

My method? Forget the wrenches and go right for the fire dragon and start cutting until something falls off the car.

@jamesberryman751 5 лет назад

Laughing my face off, I love it!

@RandomsFandom 4 года назад

its called a hot wrench

@sswkevinloucks 3 года назад

I have had the same situation occur on NY cars in the salt belt and I use a sawsall with shortened blade to cut thru the bolt on both sides inside the housing. This allows me to pop out the strut and then punch out the bolt stubs with a hammer and punch. I use a bit of lube to keep the blade from over heating on the sawsall. I also have used a torch as you did and a grinder with a cut off blade. Each situation dictates the method. I try not to use a torch due to the fire and burn hazards. Great a few great videos and great learning tools and thank you.

@aorsin 5 лет назад

When I have the sleeve bushing stuck to the bolt, I drill small holes into the strut mount to the bushing and use penetrating oil. if you can make the holes toward the top it allows the oil to seep down onto the bolt. Then you can use the backward and forward motion to free the bolt from the sleeve. You will also be able to put a nail in the hole to prevent the turning of the sleeve. Not as quick as using a torch to burn it off but when you don't have one you do what you can.

@audiowize 6 лет назад

"I think these things are easy to change" 3 hours later...

@AlpineWarren 5 лет назад

The world needs more honest mechanics like you sir...

@cc66ohio18 5 лет назад

Good dude, good dad, good humor. Enjoy watching an learning some good tips

@frankrodriguez1981 6 лет назад

Hey man. I remember my dad and I doing one of these years ago. The way we got it out was drilling it from the bottom all the way through the strut outer the rubber and into the bushing. Then jam a screwdriver in there to prevent the bushing from spinning. Worked like a charm.

@charlescastillo8870 3 года назад

That's some great info, and makes sense. Thanks

@timmcdonald9331 3 года назад

in mid-Ont Canada, we use a Sawzall and cut the bolt inside the bracket on both sides of the bushing then pry the strut out, the ends of the bolts now just need a tap and they fall out no torch or fire extinguisher involved have fun stay safe

@paulmcclain920 5 лет назад

instead of hot wrench, I think I would have used an air chisel to cut the strut and bushings.

@DaddyBeanDaddyBean 6 лет назад

Replaced front struts on a 2012 Odyssey. Sway bar end link on one side was tough... and on the other side, all but welded in place. Penetrating fluid that wasn't allowed enough time to work didn't help (shocking, I know), so I got a bigger bar, applied more force, and stripped the hex recess out of the center of the stud. Applied vice grips to the back of the stud, applied even more force, and tore all the corners right off the nut. I don't have a torch, so kids, say hello to Mr. Reciprocating Saw.

@stanilastefan1687 6 лет назад

I thought that this it only happened to me, usually when stores are closed and i need the car next day.

@SouthMainAuto 6 лет назад

Never fails!

@stanilastefan1687 6 лет назад

Not having a great variety of tools at hand the only options for me are a angle grinder, when it fits in the spot, or, and the most efficient a sharp chisel and a big hammer and go medieval on it.

@mikeholt3545 6 лет назад

Yeah I've found if I can rattle them enough they will give out about the time I smack my hand real good!

@averywellsand888 5 лет назад

Had a pretty seized set of bolts on my rear struts... luckily I had a friend with a breaker bar that I could call. Need the struts off so nxt day I could take to a shop and have the coils swapped over to new struts as I had work monday and only had 2 days to get the work done. Shop close sunday so that was Friday night and Saturday

@nino402 5 лет назад

My preferred method when this happens is to take a sawzall and go in between the bushing and the subframe where the bolt slides through and use a diablo blade. Some times the torch is just to close to the abs sensor or the parking brake cable.

@joejago5231 6 лет назад

try heating the head of bolt and shocking it back and forth with air gun usally works for me but if someone put grease on bolt it would not have happened.

@throttlebottle5906 6 лет назад

you wont have any stuck bolt from me, but you'll be cussing while smearing the mostly dried anti-seize everywhere ;)

@ncrdisabled 6 лет назад

The boy reminded me of when I was young.My dad was a master mechanic for over 60 years.He took me to work with him at 7 years old back in 1968 . I even learned to be a mechanic. Which I did for 15 years then went in the navy for 7 years on submarines.I wanted to do 30 years but got hurt on board and now have lots of time to watch your great videos D you want your kid to be a mechanic ?

@natejennings9391 5 лет назад

We have used a heat inductor at the bolt. Helps warm up the bolt and sleeve, without burning the bushing. Not a sure fire solution but have had good success.

@mib20000 6 лет назад

how about picking up 2 new bolts when buying the struts. use cut off wheel cut completely through rubber and sleeve and bolt. pull right half off. use pry-driver to slide remainder of the sleeve to the right and remove that, then used vise grips to remove rest of bolt. If you dont have a torch

@Starcrunch72 6 лет назад

Agreed--those of us who are torchless would have to go this route

@jamespn 6 лет назад

Could you weld the inner metal sleeve to the outer steel strut bottom in order to keep the bolt stationary so you can remove the nut.

@mib20000 6 лет назад

The nut on eric's hondo wasn't removable but I would imagine if you had a welder you could try to get to the steel sleeve and weld it so it doesn't move and remove the bolt. I read another option was to tighten the bolt which would cause the sleeve to be clamped between the bracket and then try to back it out with an impact.

@boarderdude1193 5 лет назад

I ended up taking the “bigger bar” route when trying to remove the seized through bolt in the front lower control arm on my ‘92 Accord; and similarly torqued the bolt right off! Thankfully I had already purchased new lower control arms with bushings (I took the easy way out to replace my dry rotted bushings) but I ended up going to the dealer to order a new bolt since no one else in town had a similar one... Nice to know I’m not alone!

@marcelmechanikapoirlandzku4725 6 лет назад

torch is the BEST. Torch is superb. Torch will do anything and everything. God bless for torch.

@MiracleMitch 4 года назад

C.V. joint boxes? 🤔 Well there IS a joint in them 😂 Those seized bushings are often due to metallurgical reactions between steel shanked bolts and aluminum bushing tubes. Cut my Passat bushings off with a grinder and 1mm cutting disc then for the upper control arms used a reciprocating electric saw. Put the cut off bush in a press just for kicks and it took 9 tons to push what is a chemically welded bolt shank out of the bush tube. I'm from the UK but love the channel Eric O. Real world stuff, very informative and sprinkled with a measure of humour. A must watch for me.

@bryanrobertson6844 5 лет назад

Everyone makes mistakes, even a pro like you. It's how quickly you recover from a blunder that makes all the difference. Keep doing what you're doing!👍

@nathanrspain 6 лет назад

Lasers work the best for this type of job!

@norsefire20 3 года назад

I had something like this about a year ago, though it was an Element. Same deal though, seized lower bushing bolt in the rear struts. My dad and I tried various different things, we eventually landed on a reciprocating saw on each side. I was gonna use the torch but I was afraid the shock would explode on me. It was very cramped in there so we went through a few blades, and I didn't have your fancy lift...but it eventually came out. I loaded the new bolts with antiseize on the part going through the bushing, not the threads, and hopefully that will help whenever they need to be changed again. I'm just scared for when my brother's and sister's Civics need theirs done... Great problem solving!

@richardmccarty3995 6 лет назад

Another amazing video of showing us how humble and great mechanic you are.

@DiyMech 6 лет назад

Take it you could use a reciprocating saw to cut the "bush" in half ?? rather than the fire dragon ??

@SouthMainAuto 6 лет назад

Ahhhh but where is the fun in that!?

@rhymereason3449 3 года назад

"If I can do it, YOU can do it".... yep, pretty sure I can snap off a bolt with a big cheater bar... not so sure about the rest of it. But seriously, a BIG thanks for all the educational content you provide, I've learned a lot.

@MrClickbang357 5 лет назад

As a shade tree mechanic, I would have sacrificed the bolt in the first place. Just cut through at each end of the stuck inner bushing and pull out the unit then install new and put in new bold - hopefully the correct one! Now - full disclosure I wouldn't have known this until finding that the bushing was stuck on the bolt - than ever so much for the heads up!!! I will buy bolts ahead of time JIC!!! (just in case) thank you for the educational video. I think what you actually mean is "If I can do it, you can do AFTER watching this video"!!!

@jdtractorman7445 6 лет назад

7:35, fire in the hole! Nice of you to make a deal with that guy for the car. He was driving a 1991 Accord?, he got the most useable life out of that car for sure.

@SouthMainAuto 6 лет назад

There was nothing left of the 91 here in NY, no idea how it made it this long

@scflooring8658 4 года назад

I’m just glad you could show us how to do it after we break the bolt.... because you know its going to happen!! LOL Thank you sir

@shane6961 3 года назад

As soon as I saw the title I knew those bottom strut bolts would be captive. Circle of rice brah.

@jeremyrebel8931 3 года назад

I'm an auto technician for 23 years and those can be a pain in the.... I have had luck sometimes heating the head of the bolt with medium heat to transfer the heat all the way thru the bolt and then work the impact gun back and forth to free it up. I would say it's less than 50% but when it works it saves alot of time.

@tombeilman5579 3 года назад

Reminds me of when I removed leaf springs from an old truck torch, sledge hammer, chisel and a lot of pounding

@loveyou-qk4bm 4 года назад

i know this video was made in 2018 but what i can say to you all is...i never seen this man swear when his doing a job,he always happy if things goes well or wrong...you are a good mechanic and a very good human ...we all have our days ..always take care and enjoy .most of everything stay safe...

@martyb4815 6 лет назад

Hey Eric, the easier way would have Sawzalled the bolt on both sides. Hindsight 20/20. Maybe next time God Bless

@dalandser562 6 лет назад

That's what I was waiting to see happen lol

@Stick1370 6 лет назад

I sawed the bolts off of mine and broke the nut off of the arm. Replaced the bolt and nut. The nut is welded on to ease assembly. I anti seized the snot out of the bolt and bushings on the new stuff. Put a little dab of loctite on the nuts and ran it.

@paulcopeland9035 6 лет назад

Of course cutting would have been easier, but he was trying to reuse the bolts.

@dalandser562 6 лет назад

I think he meant once the head popped off the first one. That's what I figured I'd do.

@Stick1370 6 лет назад

I know. But there really isn’t any saving bolts doing those. Even the ones down south do that.

@survivetothrive21 2 года назад

I just ran into the same issue with my 2011 Jeep Liberty. Replacing both front CV shafts only to find out the bolt was seized to the metal sleeve in the lower strut bushing mount. Only difference with mine is that bushing is pressed INTO the dang control arm, so I have to get a bushing press and new bushings AND a new bolt bc I broke mine too, and it definitely put a damper on my plans to have that shaft in and out within a reasonable amount of time 🤣. After as much heat as my propane torch could apply, and constantly hammering on the bolt head with my impact, I broke free from the bushing. Hopefully I can apply what I learned on THAT bushing and apply it to the other side to avoid another broken bolt lol. Love your channel, Eric!

@jorilarson4141 6 лет назад

Common Civic thing Everyone I have worked on had this issue. Love the midwest

@ColdWarVet607 6 лет назад

Reciprocating saw would fit nice & take out the bolt / bushing. My favorite tool of mass destrution along with my RA Grinder.

@silverback7279 6 лет назад

How on earth you dont swear is beyond me, well done.

@bobdadruma 5 лет назад

As some others have already said, the Reciprocating Saw is the fastest and best solution for this problem.

@snakeskinproductions7500 6 лет назад

Love the disclaimer; Don't heat up a shock or strut. I know you know what happens when you do (as do I ). ahh, youth..lol

@throttlebottle5906 6 лет назад

nor drill holes or crush them! unless you really need a thrill, with possible dead ending

@thedevilinthecircuit1414 3 года назад

No kidding. Sealed metal container + oil = bomb. I'm watching on a laptop 400 miles away and I had my safety squints engaged.

@FR-ji3hw 2 года назад

Some of those struts have a pressure release on them. I had one vent hot vaporized oil once after I ignored that "do not heat" warning sticker. It rose into a rust hole down near the wheel well while it vented because it was so hot, I had scurried away and grabbed the fire extinguisher but there was no fire. A short time later the vapor that rose up into the hole started to cool again and began rolling out of the rust hole and about scared me to death, thinking I had started a fire up inside the car somewhere I couldn't get to with the extinguisher. I use cut-off wheels and buy new bolts before I do the job now, or punch the bolt through with a ball joint press that looks like a huge "C" clamp, or drill it deep enough to clear the mounts. I've learned to go right to the thing that always works because it almost always takes less time, which is to run a cut-off wheel inside of the mounting, through the bushing and then the bolt and pry it out with a bar.

@Maxify08 6 лет назад

I love watching the kids in the shop, Eric. It reminds us of why we slave away like you do. Move to Florida, Bro. We don't the crusty issues you do up there. No annual certifications and far more work than mechanics. In the north part of the state it's far more like what you have right there. We do have a ban on the white fluffy stuff and the crusties thereof.

@rustyaxelrod 3 года назад

Your NAPA guy went to Troctor Supply and picked you up some hardware to install some struts you didn’t even buy from him? Man, that’s great service! You should buy something from him you don’t even need. 😉

@fieldsofomagh 6 лет назад

Expecting a 5 minute video after the top nuts came loose. Then all hell broke loose with thick black smoke and steam billowing from the moorings and the smell of burning rubber. Had to open the window pronto or would have been aphyixiated. Can't say the torch is great, but if time is of the essence then it does the job. Not a lot of alternatives that are quick and easy.

@davetopp105 5 лет назад

Unless if it's some specialized bolt, if it breaks, it's part of the install. If it's that rusted and seized in there, I figure it's best to replace it with new ones. On your shock mount, I would have used a side grinder with a cut-off wheel and cut it through on the inside on each side of the strut where it goes into the bushing. Quick in and out.