Honda Civic Type R 2023 : le Nürburgring dans la dernière GTI thermique... 

Eh oui ! Comme tu es secoué, j'étais mort de rire. Mais t'as pas l'air d'avoir eu des pertes de grip...

Pense pas ..... Même les vieilles civique sont encore vivante .... Là où les veille Mégane sont mortes donc.... Le jour où Renault arrivera la cheville de Honda .... Je revend ma Jap direct...par contre dommage que Honda ce soit séparé du vtec

Et bien il faudrait peut-être commencer par faire un chrono validé et en prenant les repères de la Megane Rs Trophy… sans point de comparaison impossible de savoir. Sur papier la Civic est avantagée mais le châssis de la Megane est redoutable

Oui, c'en est une.

Ca a l'air très performant mais il y a des soucis de surchauffe de l'huile alors qu'il faisait 7°C et les suspensions semblent trop dur pour le nurburgring. L'ensemble est tout de même très attractif, moteur boite au top, bonne motricité et le design me plait.

This is not lift off oversteer. This is the result of incorrect alignment. Way too much toe-out in the front (or not enough toe in) is causing the front of the car to turn in too much and throwing the rear into a slide. This is not a desirable thing. Any good driver experiencing this would immediately want to abandon the lap and change alignment.

@@Bryce10011 The engineers made it like that stock. For whatever its worth, I drove a faithful rendition of the FL5 CTR in Assetto Corsa and it drives exactly like this. I was absolutely stunned by what a pleasure it was to enjoy such smooth, predictable, confidence inspiring, lift off oversteer (especially for corner entry) in such a balanced handling platform that is possible with a well tuned FWD. Truly blissful.

@@Bryce10011 give it up mate. You sound like you have never tried to have fun in a front wheel drive car. Just stop.

@@Bryce10011 Try editing again 😅 Any good keyboard warrior would know he INTENTIONALLY flicked and slid the car to get it to rotate. Even not knowing french I can read that the car is in stock configuration. I guess all the honda engineers don't know performance alignment. 🙄

@@nismo300zr2 My edit was correcting a misspelled word. I know that the description stated that the setup was factory - that doesn't mean that the alignment was good or correct for the track that he's on. If he "INTENTIONNALLY flicked" the car in that aggressively, then that is simply not good driving and that also does not constitute it to be lift-off oversteer. The rear end of the car is over-rotating on every single corner, on throttle or off. It's even doing it on highspeed sections with the throttle flat to the floor. It's plain to see that the toe is just not right for this road and his driving. Why are you even replying to my comment? You said nothing.

It's just his alignment. It's wrong for this track. Too much toe out (or not enough toe in) in the front is causing the front of the car to turn in too hard, throwing the rear out into a slide. It's not good driving. A good driver would immediately notice these bad things happening and want to change alignment.

@@Bryce10011 That's what i though too not a professional driving there just playing around with it but i wanna see the time on how fast it goes with proper driving, that Honda engine is a beast!

​@@Bryce10011 are you a paid actor of a different car brand? How often do you want to repeat the same thing in the comment section over and over again?

@@viniciusledesma The people complaining don't seem to have checked the ambient temperature in the gauge cluster. It's between 6 to 10 degrees Celcius (40-50 degrees in Farhenheit) -- no wonder there is no rear tyre temp! Those are borderline temperatures for summer tyres. I'm sure in normal conditions, 25 degrees Celcius, the rear tyres would come in and it wouldn't be oversteering so much. Or the driver could pit and swap the nice warm front tyres to the rear for the next lap. 🙂

Thanks for that I saw that RU-vid short and read the comments to find this channel 😂

Thanks Misha for this nice outside view 😍

Crazy how some of those corners it looked RWD drifting

@@wanglee21 CTR is very neutral so with lifting off you can get the back end to go out and oversteer

It's astonishing to see just how many people in the comments section don't know what clean go fast driving is. Show me one timed race format you see this kind of overdriven driving? None. Because it's slow and terrible driving ya bunch of clowns.

​@@Vermonstered Exactly this how you literally don't drive and I have being watching motorsport racing all my life just carrying way to much speed in every corner causing the car to do that.

@@raikkonen804 My god do you people not know what fun is? The driver is clearly having fun sliding the car around. Not every lap has to be max attack!

Tu sais qu une traction, en travers, tu peux laisser le volant au neutre, elle reviendra d elle même avec un peu de gaz. Fans la dernière vidéo Rasso ouest avec l essai de la Megane RS, Yann le démontre à un moment dans la vidéo. Pour perdre le contrôle d une traction, faut vraiment y mettre du sien.

You really dont race a fwd huh? THeres no 'save' when the oversteer is intentional and clearly controlled.

He flicked it to the right first then left to throw the weight to the right rise and make it kick out like that

@@nismo300zr2 intentional or not, you have to save it

I can't believe it, they somehow made a fwd hatch that can oversteer and drift

@@shivamarya5225 yeah no kidding. This thing almost doesn’t drive like an FWD.

Oui dans l'article lié à cet essai sur piste, le journaliste avait dit que les suspensions étaient beaucoup trop fermes pour un tracé aussi bosselé que le Nurb'.

Il aurait été judicieux de laisser l’amortisseur en confort pour le nurb 😁

R comme... "RHAAAA mais qu'est ce que ça fait mal au cuuuuuuuuuuuul ! lol

Max verstappen en el volante ✔️🔥🔥🔥

y'a du marsouinage 😆

Indeed. Everywhere is bumpy in R mode. 🙂

Honda "quality" product. Keep buying econo boxes with some coilovers and a suped up 4 cylinder and call it track ready lol

@@Pahang.bend17 tell me what’s better? I love these internet experts who don’t have a clue

He drove in +R, dampers are stiffer then.

@@gt-r9035 yep, I know that. I’ve got an FL5, my first track day tomorrow.

El mejor Max Verstappen 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Sauf que sur le chrono, un mec qui maîtrise le train arrière baladeur, il ira plus vite que vous

Je confirme faut la brusquer

dans les courbes elle ne bouge pas ya que dans le sinueux qu'elle est joueuse surtout à la décélération..mais des entre courbe à 180 ça ce fais le coude à la portière

@@kayzenl7911 Pas encore croisé ce genre de mec... 😉

The car´s sensors detect a risky situation and activate the flashers to warn the other drivers. For example, hard braking.

its just from hard breaking, every car has it sold in the EU market, dunno about North American safety standards tho

Feels a little excessive here like it's for show or overdriving. Would def like to see a smooth lap for comparison

A top tier driver showing the world how to drive, being both fast and entertaining, and people still think they have to teach him how to drive. What a world. Please show us in your next video how to do it better. I cannot wait.

@@biznatch1791 relax

I didnt see him recording the laptime.

Turbo engine kept near the red line what are you expecting?

C'est pour ca qu'il faut toujours une huile adaptée au circuit type 10w60 ou autre mais qui tient les hautes températures sinon c'est casse moteur assurée

​@@baptiste53240able Ou plutôt la 5W60 pour un meilleure rendement

@@fasthracing: the temperature is simply too high. What about summer and 30 degrees outside? Does the car switch to emergency mode then?

@@baptiste53240ablethis engine uses 3 synthetic oil types and all can withstand these temperatures. Example the 5W-20 is tested to perform from -35°C to over 150°C.

je confirme que c'est bien tape cul

La raideur du châssis dépend des réglages de la suspension. Au lieu d'être en dureté max, il aurait dû choisir la position intermédiaire. C'est justement la force de la Civic d'avoir des suspensions réglables depuis l'habitacle.

145deg BMW 30i in summer

According to the manual this car can take 3 synthetic oils, 0W-20, 0W-30 and 5W-30. Just looking at 5W-30 oils for example you can see brands like Castrol is tested to perform from -35°C to over 150°C.

@@TheCaesarChris tested to 150 meaning peak temperature but highly unlikely it can manage that temp sustained. Millers CFS motorsport oil for example is 150 max peak but only 125 sustained. I wouldn't be comfortable with these temps at all, what's it going to be like in 30 degrees ambient 😲

@@k20ee96 Agreed. 150 C is insane. Plus, Honda engineers are not stupid. The car will go on limp mode way before reaching 150 C. New engines like these run hot, but after a track day reaching 130 C best thing to do is change the oil. An oil cooler would help too…