Honest Reaction | Ren - Money Game pt3 

The guy that took over for Ren on piano is a classically trained pianist and friend named Charlie

Yes, Ren composed all the music with the exception of the first piano movement which is apparently a classical piece (at least in part) by Grieg.

Enjoyed your reaction and yes there were separate people for each part played. Ren wrote the entire musical score except for the dramatic piano opening which is from Edvard Grieg’s Piano Concerto in A minor, a brilliant choice. Most impressive to me is the fact that he is rapping to a piano for most of the piece and how in sync they are. I understand that Ren was miked to Charlie Woof-Byrne, the pianist who played for most of the video so he could hear Ren and adjust his playing. Another bit of trivia, the one cut, which you correctly identified, was to move and protect the lavalier microphone from the rain machine. Just love this video and can’t wait for Ren’s next creation.

The strings arrangement is actually playing the original money game chorus. Its just beautiful

I just noticed his hand sign for the violin!! . He is performing and conduction backwards what he has, himself composed. 🤯🤯🤯

Awesome reaction. Ren has extras so no wardrobe changes. And there is only one cut in the video and it happens when they spin Ren around in the wheel chair in front of the string section. There's an awesome behind the scenes making of Money Game Part 3 from a rector named Wolf Johnson that Ren invited to record everything and it's awesome seeing Ren practicing how he accomplished everything they did in this video. The string section is playing the chorus from Money Game One and Two. It does sound absolutely amazing played with the strings. Also the rope and bags over their heads represent money bags Ren said.

In an interview his photographer said that Ren wrote all of the music parts for all the instruments.

It’s not wardrobe changes, just a few different people

Yes, he wrote the piano and strings both.

No wardrobe changes just a bunch of extras

It was funny when you were trying to classify the music. Ren once called his style Bardcore and in this case I think the music is that too. Ren is playing in his own lane because he is willing to talk about stuff like this while acknowledging his own desire for a #1 album or making enough money that he won't have to worry about how to pay for his medical treatments anymore. In Ren's vision of where we should be no one would have to worry about how they would pay for medical treatment. He understands it's a balance.. he just hopes we stop listing so badly.

Ren has restored my love of music and real talent. I am past 60 years, enjoyed alot of great live music in my youth, today all is so fake sounding, and the writing talent, well, just awful in most songs. Ren is multi talented, and I found your channel through this reaction, respect your thoughtfulness, LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED!

You really need to watch the behind scenes and the making of this video. It's really awesome, no wardrobe changes just stand in friends playing the parts.

Ren has now done a few interviews talking about making this video and there is a behind the scenes film of it being made. I recall him saying it was extremely hot in the wear house. But I understand and agree 100% on the way our tax money is spent. Nothing is ever better or fixed and we’re just taxed on our taxes and taxed again. Just lies and more lies and corruption. I’m tired of it too.

Yes REN made all the arrangements with the piano, and string, it was a live performance, with just one cut, exactly where you said. The piano was firstly played by him, and taken over by another performer. No costume changes. As you see all the other performers still in place when the camera panned around. It is a brilliant performance, with regards to absolutely everything that you see, hear and understand.

I’m glad you didn’t cut the ‘rant’ out. :) Thanks for the reaction and yes, you should take care of your health because while we need money to survive, you can’t take it with you. Be good to yourself. 💜

You keep talking about wardrobe changes, but many of them werent... i.e., you thought the 5 yr old Jimmy changed to step in as the 14 yr old Jimmy... but a few seconds later you can see the 5 yr old Jimmy still sitting in his spot... the guys sitting at the table after the phone call...thats the table where they were cutting the heroine or cocaine or whatever. The camera work is so good and so sweeping its hard to keep track visually and makes the set seem so much bigger... excellent utilization of the space.

Yamaha lent them the piano!! It’s a Grand

The string part is the hook of Money Game part 1 and 2, played on the violin... Wonderful ... And the rain at the end.... With no need to sing "rain rain rain rain, a storm it comes our way" ... Genius...

What do you think tax is for in principle? From each according to their means, to each according to their needs. We’ve tried systems of philanthropy, we even have tax incentives now to give to charity etc - that doesn’t work. That’s why you need a system which organises it to re-distribute the wealth to offset the inevitable inequity which capitalism leads to. We don’t have a perfect solution but we know there are better ways than the unfettered rampant capitalism experiment that America has been running with - at least if you measure success on the basis of people’s happiness and the sustainability of it rather than absolute “growth” (which is skewed by those at the top doing well while the majority suffers) - and that’s social democracies. In multiple studies over multiple decades, that system has shown itself to lead to the happiest overall citizens. You have people paying much more tax than in the US but happy to do so, because they see the money is being used for good, you have people with access to healthcare that isn’t dependent on being a slave to the wage, with mandated holiday pay, with generous maternity and paternity pay, with a penal system that focuses on helping people become better citizens when they leave, not making money for the people running it which incentivises treating people like animals and actually encouraging recidivism and locking up ever more of the population etc. We know these systems are not perfect, but they are MUCH better than anything else. But America has had more than 100 years now of its people being programmed to reject any notion of “socialism” out of hand because it threatens those at the top of the tree. That’s why what Ren says rings true to me - it’s too late to fix things with the older generations, but we have to start with the next - or at least, we have to stop indoctrinating them to be dedicated capitalist machines like Jimmy - living a “successful” but hollow life simply chasing “mine mine gimme”. We have to teach kids the value of community, how to seek happiness - and I think first is to realise that politics, money, national borders etc are all just human inventions and they can ALL change. They HAVE to change or else we, as a species, will probably not survive. There is work to be done reinventing society and it will take generations, but we can make a start by looking at the systems that work best now - and learning from them, learning that pure rampant capitalism is failing us, it’s an experiment well past it’s time to give up on - and stop the knee jerk rejection of the notion of socialism (not communism, not authoritarianism - but democratic socialism).

I'm not sure how I missed you before, but I just now found your channel. I'm basically obsessed with watching Ren reaction videos and I've seen literally hundreds of them this year. I really enjoyed your reaction here, nice job. New sub, I'll go back and watch your Ren reactions in order. From the RU-vid description for the video: "Song written, composed, arranged, and performed by Ren." According to Amy Shafer, LRSM, FRSM, RYC, in an analysis of the song on her "Virgin Rock" RU-vid channel, the very beginning is based on a piece by Edvard Grieg. In an interview Ren said he wrote the piano music, but could not, himself, play it all. He said parts of it, he created with midi and the classically trained pianist Charlie Wolf-Bryne, the second pianist completed it. Also in an interview, Ren said that he wrote the music for the string quartet, and its based on the music from Money Game 1 and 2, and the quartet worked with him on the arrangement. Also, from interviews with Ren, and also with Co-Director and Co-Producer Samuel Perry-Falvey, you identified correctly the single cut in the video. Ren said they had to do that, because of money and time constraints, in case something went wrong with the "rain" sequence. Ren only had the 1 suit and also they wouldn't have been able to get the floor dry for a re-shoot after it got wet during a take. They finished very late at night, although you're the only reactor to mention that Ren looked tired. If you watch the rain sequence again, you'll notice that the viola player (according to the credits) to Ren's right gets a little wet, she makes a minor movement to protect her bow. The bow did get wet, and Ren paid to re-string it. You would really like Ren's live performance video "For Joe." I didn't see it with a quick scan of your playlist. Ren recently wrote it and performed it outdoors overlooking Calgary, where you may know he's receiving clinical treatments. It's a keyboard piece and combines elements of Ren's works "Su!cIde," "Freckled Angels" and others. It's: "Ren - For Joe (Live Performance Video)." It's here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ebX5ZvrT6-o.htmlsi=NbLdYNnMyYeNJiEd Sorry this is so long. (edit): Also, on re-reading the comments I do see that parts of this are duplicated in other comments, my bad. Thanks again. 🙏

I think we should create a system where we get to choose what our taxes fund. We should be able to delegate funds into the areas we deem appropiate. 5% social housing, 15% schools, 10% public healthcare, 10% infrastructure, 10% investment into green energy aso. The US uses 60-70% of the budget on the military, which is insane!!

Yep, stunning piece of work again from Ren, a story mostly about how nurturing can go wrong! Nope, no costume changes, notice how everyone remains in place. You'll recall Ren handing over piano duties at the start, his replacement then plays live throughout the rest of this one take. You spotted the cut, necessary to bring in the string quartet and remove/move his lapel mic, since he removes his jacket a short while later. Jacket probably removed to avoid a soaking since I think he only had one jacket if more takes needed!

When the lead violin hits that b natural (right where you paused it on the 2nd listen of the string section), that's the exact moment my heart broke and tears came.

OMG & FFS, how many times do we need to hear you say did that person do a wardrobe change. 🤣🤣What on Gods Green Earth makes you think it's only one other person in this video with Ren? It's a freeken one shot bro and if you look past Ren you'll still see everyone holding their original positions of Jimmy's past lol. Other then that hope you enjoyed and hope to see more Ren reactions. Cheers ✌

According to what I've heard it took them 2 changes but several takes.

The string part came from Money game I think.

There were multiple people in each of those scenes not just one person changing clothing. This is not a one-take but a one-shot with only 1 cut behind the wheelchair. Ren says it himself say in this video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FGTC1abjwcE.htmlfeature=shared&t=3135 around 52 minutes in. MG3 Behind The Scenes including the last part of the song with the strings (an overhead view of the actual shoot) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CdEFYPef7RU.htmlfeature=shared

He did write the strings and the piano himself. He choreographed everything with Samuel Perry Falvey as well ❤

Beautifully done video musically lyrically and his performance Beautifully worded reaction

“Not to fangirl” - my favorite reaction from in one sentence! Great reaction to a great video! I’m glad you aren’t as stressed now.

The violins were playing the refrain from Money Game 1 & 2, and which he sang in the mirror at the beginning

It seems to me Jimmy is of Ren’s creation

"He is buy himself a seat in the senate" So he is a US politician. Also saying later "follow the code of the land of the free..."

You know I'm sitting here just checking out my subscriptions I saw you with Ren and I hopped to it. All of the comments are interesting, factual, etc. the main point for me though as a Ren fan is how appreciative I am to whatever higher power decided not to take Ren. He has gone through so much beginning at a relatively young age and it breaks my heart. He's basically a protégés. I've neither heard nor seen anyone like him ever. And he's so brave, so persistent, the epitome of never give up, never give in, and no matter what it is always possible to reach your dreams.

Credit to @ChiefReacts! for being the only reactor I've heard who mentions that the violins are playing the melody that is hummed throughout Money Game 1 & 2 (right after the line "We're all part of this whole money game") and in Money Game 3 (hummed into the mirror just before "Let me tell you a story.."). Even Knox Hill didn't mention it, but Chief picked up on it immediately. I point this out only because it's a pretty strong clue that Ren conceived the string music. Great reaction - sorry about all the people who are letting you have it for the costume change comment. Consider it a testament to how strongly some people can relate to Ren - it makes them feel as if they created the work themselves and are therefore entitled to be offended by every misinterpretation of their art.

Great reaction!!! During the strings component, I always get distracted away from what Ren is saying because one of the violins is playing the Money Game melody. So good!! If you have not done a reaction to the song "For Joe" yet, you should, it came out right after the Suicide track.

The string section is so melancholy. So haunting yet so beautiful and powerful

Absolute masterpiece! I have watched this over 100 times it’s fantastic 🖤

Love your reactions! Can’t wait to see some for The Big Push, Ren’s former band. MG3 is his magnum opus for sure tho, his and Sam and their whole team. I get chills every time and cry.

The rain is a visual of the chorus of the previous money games.

Ren❤❤❤❤

I like how self-aware you are. Its inspiring.

Yes he wrote it. You can also hear that same music (the music the strings are playing) tho its not the main music, in the Ren song Dominoes.

I like your style and thoughts. The "modern melody" the violins were playing is the chorus theme of Money Game 1 + 2 he was also humming at the beginning in front of the mirror. It's indeed a beautiful arrangement and one can't go wrong with a string quartet 😁(although this has an extra Cello instead of the Contra Bass).

I love how little boss are made.to.the first two.money game for.eg the literal rain which references the rain rain rain line in the other two

I was saying from the beginning i want the instrumental of this song. I am a huge fan of the piano and the piano of this song is so beautiful!

I love how the violins start playing the original money game theme....its such a catchy theme to just make you want to start humming!!

If you rewind a little, after pausing, you won't miss anything. :)

This is reference to Politicians from the 1800s, 1900s, 2000s from the United States and some from parliament.

New subscriber here. Great reaction, you noticed some things no one else had mentioned. Im looking forward to checking out your other Ren reactions.

RU-vid advertised this video on live street screens with the string quartet and his hands up.

Good call on the reflection of Ren in the piano fallboard (had to look up what it's actually called). It's definitely intentional on the part of Sam and Ren, since the camera pauses there. You're the only reactor I've seen who pointed it out. Mirrors, reflections, dualities are a constant theme in Ren's music and videos. When we talk about being in the Ren rabbit hole (an Alice in Wonderland reference), it might be more accurate to say we've "gone through the Looking Glass" instead. 🙃

Great reaction! I just discovered your channel and will be watching all your Ren reactions. Ren is a true musical genius and this video and song are so amazing! ❤❤

Ren commented later that he really didn't know about the age restrictions in American Government for the senate and being president. My headcanon says that it was more he had a senator in his pocket, and then also got the ear of the president... which, honestly is pretty plausible. New Subscriber here. need to go back and watch all the rest of your content now.

Ren has said that the end part of the video, from when the rain starts, is a visual depiction of the chorus from Parts 1 & 2 "Rain, rain, rain, a storm it comes our way" etc

Lets get a bit deeper. "Jimmy comes in out ot the rain..." A reference back to "Rain, rain, rain, rain, a storm it comes our way"... Started in part 1. Ren wad wearing the poncho, protection, as he represented (imo) "the system". The point that the guitarist ("us") gsins as you said "a face" or sight/ awareness, allows us to become aware of thhise contrlling the system at which point there are 2 choices. They burn us Or Having lost anonymity.... (control/ protection ... The Poncho) ...,They burn. (I would think he means revolution) . Its about their control, our naivety, our willingness to "go with the flow" when "theres no left, theres no right"... They ALL work the system while "in the middle, we sleep"... . . Just btw, for context. Have you listened to "Won't get fooled again" by The Who? . If not, you should react while MG3 is fresh. . Written 53 years ago, it speaks on the same subject. . "The parting on the left, is now a parting on the right...." . I have a feeling Ren knows it well, he has covered their songs with The Big Push.

Thank you for not cutting that part out, the issue is not the system but the token of value, unfortunately people has no value in this society only the money they own is their value and that is utterly saddening

Ren stated "Mold will Grow upon the Surface and Consumes til it dies, and Our Fate could be the same without this Story to the Wise" The more I hear from Ren the more I realize his Solution is to be a Teacher Opening the Eyes of Millions with his Art and his Heart! And I think Ren's message is Crystal Clear. Ambition and Passion Without Compassion Will Cause the World To Burn! But Ambition and Passion WITH Compassion Can Save It! His Compassion is Manifestly Obvious and If enough of Us actually LISTEN to his words, then Maybe, Just Maybe the Hunan Race may Survive!

He had a bunch of extras (friends) to help with this video. The nurse was a pretty built dude. lol

Your reaction and comments are on point. Rain, rain, rain, rain, a storm it comes our way. Thus time, he made it rain instead of singing. Subbed.

If you listen carefully to the string part you will catch the violins playing the same melody that Ren hummed in Money game 1. It is subtle and slower but ties it together. The strings are beautiful. The whole thing is amazing!

The strings are written by Ren. If you listen you'll hear its the music for Money Game. He's so freaking clever!!! Those strings are amazingly beautiful, aren't they?!?

Go back to the line in Money Game 1. "Turns a Saint into a sinner, a child into a killer.... His finger on the trigger....." . Jimmy was that child (imo) . If Ren conceptualised this episode years after 1+2, then weaving in the story of Jimmy and recounting that line was genius. . I wonder if the idea of that child being corrupted to the point he paid the ultimate price was always in Rens' mind....? . Have you noticed that Ren does this a lot, referencing a line, or a character from one song in another?

No flagging, but thank you for another thoughtful reaction. And thank you for the love! Right back at ya.

Thank you for a very real react... there is a level up diff between those who just ooo and ah and those who intellectually have experience, knowledge and a thinking mind, if that makes sense. The Patreon link didn't get me to you w this channel's name. Peace and Love man... i gotta roll through your work top to toe. 36K subs... lets get more comments for this man's work.

The strings are playing REN’s money game song

The string quartet is playing the variation of the humming theme from Money Game pt 1 and 2. Yes, Ren wrote it all

Great reaction video!! This song is getting people talking about our current situation and we all agree it's messed up beyond belief

Not quite. It was, "If you manipulate the data then a lie will sell itself," but close. I think he's referencing a mix of British and USA politics and life. So many people act like they live by themselves on an island, not realizing that we are interdependent. I was taking a walk through a park in Vegas several years back, when I had a conversation with someone who said he was a factory owner (in Canada, no less). He hated unions and thought it was his *responsibility* to pay his employees as little as possible, since he felt that he was best at using money. If that man is reading this now, I still think you are what I said I thought you were. You would be nothing without other people to do your work for you. I found your reaction to be very thoughtful. I wish you well and hope your life improves and you can get all the massages that you want. Sincerely, A masseuse.

I’m in a very similar situation; I’m “comfortable “ , but barely. And I have thought for decades that we should be given a certain amount of choice with regards to where the tax dollars we pay go, ie, underfunded programs like Head Start, early childhood programs in disenfranchised communities, arts programs that are often the first things to be cut, some sort of universal healthcare etc More to the messages Ren has brought to the table this time. I totally agree, Ren always points the blame at himself because he too is a part of the “ problem “ or the “game” - I don’t think that his father’s advice is wrong ( although completely lost on a 5 y.o.) < learn to be a man, a man who works for what he wants > vs riding on the coattails of his last name and the connections etc - Again, < money is the means to all ends> This is true in most cases. And , if in the right hands with the ends being to live a notch or two above comfortable, even straight up wealthy , A LOT OF GOOD CAN COME FROM IT. Jimmy benefited from 1) being male 2) very likely white 3) to a family who had the means to nurture his gifted intellect 4) “ develops complex software code That detects weaknesses in cyber security protocols 17, and he sells his vision keeping a share Not yet an adult, but he's practically a millionaire At 18 his daddy tells him that the world don’t give a damn about you so take all that you can. AT THIS POINT THE CHASE FOR MONEY BECOMES 1) for the one intangible thing that money can buy… POWER! 2) DADDYS APPROVAL. Up until 35 he’s gotten the MONEY and in turn the POWER, BUT ITS HIS DADDYS APPROVAL THAT ELUDES HIM. AND THEN “ It’s your FATHER… He’s gone” . AND JIMMYS WORLD TURNS UPSIDE DOWN; BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT HE WILL NEVER GET IT NOW AND YET “ His daddy’s words are STILL driving him to kill and devour “. ** Everything changes, the piano notes becomes heavy, clumsy “off” mirroring Jimmy’s state of mind . It’s only at the end , at 45, when “he hears the words of his FATHER

That last scene gets me every damn time.

Great reaction. Love that you appreciate the genius of Ren.

But as He said.."Money is an invention" to control.every inch of Land belongs to US "All" and not 1 Person...Water belongs to everyone....Food could be for everyone if everyone was taught to plant food for himself to live.so as He said "we can build Utopias" if everyone taught to use there brain.

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The strings are a throwback to the hook in MG1 and MG2

Please check out ready for you ❤and also the band he was in the big push sympathy for the devil cover, war pigs and wade in the water/Nina simone/trouble so hard thanks ❤❤❤

ren is conducting from the wheel chair, just follow his hands.

Loved your point about him always showing the duality of who he is. Ren composed the music (except the bit of Grieg he used at the start), much of it on things like midi because he isn't capable of playing it himself, though he plays some piano and a bit of cello.

Ren was not referencing any particular person in this . I missed the MG theme in the strings myself. The BTS by the Wolf Johnson is realkt interesting and showed how the magazune switch was done on the gun. Nice reaction.

Great insight and reaction, thank you 🙏🦉❤️🐊👍

You can't see the other extras out in the wide effn open?

There are 2 acoustic versions of Ren's I think you'd enjoy reacting to. Murderer acoustic live, (amazing) and Animal Flow acoustic. Very different, but both musically stunning Both are live.

I really liked that you did not cut that out.. And i know exactly what you mean.. And it is not easy to say it better then Ren just did.. ;)

Super reaction! Thanks so much!

I liked your reaction and I loved your rant. To me you were authentically trying to think through a societal issue that none of us have an easy answer for. I appreciate that there are other people concerned with this, and who ask the question of what we could do differently. Incidentally I answered a (UK) government survey recently and said I thought the biggest issue facing the country was inequality and the divide between rich and poor. When asked what we could do about it I spoke about how the system is rigged to be this way but if we could incentivise the rich to contribute to poorer communities AND build bridges between the two worlds it might be a start. The thing you said about your dream made me start in my seat and go back 😧 I'd love to say your prophetic ☺️ but what might be more likely is you shared similar ideas represented by a common symbology we're all consciously or unconsciously aware of - you've probably heard of the collective unconscious if you know Jung. Pretty cool either way. Sorry for the super long response but Ren provokes so much thought and then your response provokes mine and we can can connect, and I think that's the beauty of Ren. He brings people and ideas together because he so beautifully and poetically expresses our shared humanity. Thanks and peace 🙏✌️

Hey if you want the secrets, Ren ask The Wolf Johnson to film a behind the scene you should watch it Love your reaction

This might be the best reaction to this track I’ve seen 🤘

New subscriber here 😁 I fell down the Ren rabbit hole a few weeks ago and think he's the most fantastic artist to come along in decades 😀🤓 i just wanted you to know how much I've enjoyed all 12 of your Who is Ren reaction videos soooooo much 😁😀🤓😎 yup you've done a great job thank you 🙏 hope you keep it up 🙂 wishing you health wealth and happiness ❤️ also watched your non-Ren reaction videos too 🙂 your love and appreciation for music really shines through and i think you are very good at reacting and very natural 🙂

Yes, I like you! Liked and subscribed and enjoyed your reaction to this Ren masterpiece 😊🎉

It all starts with looking for approval jimmy’s dad was abusive jimmy would never had got his approval! Be careful what you repeat to your children let them have their own dream!

Because if helped each other there would be no need for government. Government requires chaos to expand into. When times are great people want the government to leave things alone. They cannot have that. So they create chaos then come sliding in to the "rescue".

My understanding all the music was comosed by him

Just found your channel and loved your reaction to this staggering performance, subbed and looking forward to catching up on your previous reactions and indeed future ones.

Great reaction man I love how REN inspires ❤

First watch of one of your reactions if I recall correctly and I'm in. I felt you were genuine and that means lots to me. I sub'd because of Ren reaction. Looking forward to other choices you make and the take you have on them. Great reaction man...truly enjoyed this.

3:04 You're a real RENegade when you can tell its Ren even with a bag over his face "Thats Ren right? That looks like is nose' LOL

Who is doing wardrobe changes??? These are all different people

15:48 it's not Taxes that are the Problem. That's what rich People wanna make you think "the State is the Bad Boy". A State (fe.) is just a Vehicle and it's on you to decide who's the Driver, the Mechanic, wich Fuel etc. Hell, even how the Vehicle looks like from the outside. Naturally you gonna vote for those who say they gonna fix it. Even though these are the ones making it bad to begin with

Highly recommend watching the BTS video on the making of this.