HoneyComb Flight Yoke I Real Pilot Review! 

Mogu Mogu excellent to hear! I have been eyeing that aircraft myself!

That’s the reason I don’t spend 250$ to buy this alpha yoke. I prefer to buy a flight yoke system and make some modifications which enhance the flight experience.

What I really want to see is something with variable loads like a real plane. I fly irl and especially when you do slow flight the load depends on where your trim setting is. From flying in sims I’ve kind of forgotten how important trim is because I can just pull up without the excess force that would happen irl. Also the force should increase the farther you pull or push to simulate the added resistance with higher elevator angles.

I agree 100%. I have a cross trainer which you can control the resistance electronically just the sort of thing these yokes need.

@@faceplant755I quite agree did you ever find one?

thanks! Glad to hear it

rigor m haha I don’t I will end up doing that 😂

Wait..... thats illegal

@@V1Sim is it going to be restocked??? :(

did you end up getting one?

@@harpoon_bakery162 I bet he never got it as the price is a bit ridiculous. It costs three times more than the Logitech yoke and that comes with a throttle as well!

it will take quite a bit of desk-space to get them both on it. There goes your office desk, lol.

gonna have to do something similar !

yes they do, for pitch its very quick, roll is a little slower but still quick. Thanks!

is this how it happens in real airplanes?

I know and it looks bloody awesome! I want it.

haha yea Im sure id enjoy it but I also need to pay mortgage ;)

Trim is not the issue. The yoke must have rubber bands inside that are extremely firm. Calibrating trim buttons isn't going to help. This is a hardware issue.

SmokingSpitfire Very possible!

omg if this is true you are my hero. Will look into this over the weekend, thank you

@@V1Sim Just like to add that's what I think you might be able to do? If the two switches are ANDed together, that might be an issue. I would take the switch cover off, loosen the switch bolt turn 90o

@@V1Sim did you find a solution to the rubber bands? This thing is way too firm. I fly real 172s and this is way too firm a feel.

Taylor Champagne no I use TrackIR mostly, but the hat switch does not return to center. Perhaps if bound that way it would work

Is it goin to be restocked tho

EVELYNEMIL thank you very much

Yes, it can be easily removed. I did not use the “suction” style mount, so what happens is you mount the “adapter plate” to your desk and the C clamps clap down on the plat, the yoke then sets down right on top and you slide it forward to “lock” in place. Hope that makes some sense? But yes it can be removed relatively easily and only 1 simple USB cable to unplug if need be

V1-Simulations so there is a way to mount this yoke with suction, as I really want this your, but I’m curious as to how I’m gonna linnet it because my desk has a drawer underneath it

how is your honeycomb yoke 15 years old

einsaan hmm Are you taking about the one that pops up with geeen lettering? If so that’s just a landing plugin I googled for and it popped up on the store, if you go to one of my stream videos I should have a link in description. If your talking about the one on the left of the screen I can no longer find a link to that plugin it seems to be removed

Will this link work? Hopefully I’m posting from my Phone forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/43586-a-new-landing-rate-display/

Thanks for your reply and the link. I have downloaded it and will try it out. I was using xgs landing previously but it does not have the flare and nose rate that this one has.

No it is not, I actually have replaced mine with the TCA Boeing yoke. I also suffered from the sockets getting loose and causing issues with the buttons on the yoke. If you are strictly a GA simmer you will enjoy it if it lasts, but if you fly any jets might want to the Boeing TCA yoke

Hieuoy or a throttle

@@stefzac9707 They are making a throttle but its not for sale yet

Apparently they are

@@stefzac9707 throttle is going to be released fall 2020 for $250

perhaps, but even then it still seems a tad more aggressive then one would feel with aerodynamic stiffness. It almost feels like an extremely out of trim type stiffness, so to counter it I must use excessive trim in the sim which is kind of unrealistic and also a bad habit in real life to use. Still tho its not a game breaker and a great yoke

@@V1Sim Wonder if there is a hardware modification that would reduce the stiffness. I bet someone will investigate that before too long!

There are several reasons for the tension we ended up with. We spent several months on dialing in the tension on both axis and where it ended up is due to multiple reasons. • Tolerances The elevator axis is rolling on dual lineal bearings that maximizes lifespan and ensures the ability to make minute adjustments without the yoke being jerky. Unfortunately the same bearings also require a fairly high level of tension loading to avoid the return to the CenterPoint location to exceeds our max tolerance of 3 mm. The lighter the load, the bigger the tolerance. • Center Detent The tension was also carefully chosen to find the perfect compromise between tension and detent. The target was not to feel any detent we going over the center point. (under normal operation - If you pull the elevator from min to max then you will feel a detent, but that is not how you fly) • Trimming We also put a great deal of focus on getting a realistic trim feel on the yoke when flying GA aircrafts. A higher tension level gives a more realistic feel of trimming out the tension of the yoke. • Realistic Moment We took a few different aircraft types up and measures the Nm moment of the elevator axis at cruise speed as the tension increases with airflow over the elevator and horizontal stabilizer or in some cases the stabilator. The current tension is very close to the median tension of the aircrafts we tested against. • Movement Most of the flying is done within one inch of movement around the center point, so the most realistic feel need to be in the area. At the end of the day; too light or too heavy is a subjective opinion. If you watch the RU-vid review that Austin Meyer from Laminar Research made, then you'll find that he finds the elevator axis on the lighter side, and lighter than the Yoko Yoke. I personally think that it's a little heavier than the Yoko Yoke. Hopefully we have chosen a good middle ground that works for the majority of people.

@@NickiRepenning thanks for the detailed explanation!

@@NickiRepenning I think there needs to be some way the user can adjust this. I know I've heard honeycomb claim this is a normal level for a Cessna 172 but I fly real ones all the time and it's probably double the amount of force normally required. Not sure what planes were used to measure the forces but it's far too stiff. Can you supply alternate bands? That we could swap out.

kevin morris That’s right, I had to pay $429 (AUD), for my Honeycomb yoke after a two month wait, but it was well worth the wait, it’s a great yoke, it leaves CH and Saitek for dead.

@@masteryoda498 where did you get it from, can it be bought from a local supplier or has to be bought from overseas

@@jamesleicher Thanks James will check them out

Wich equals about 1.5 times the price of the northern hemisphere. I pay 250 Euros and in AUS D that equals 395 euros.

In Sweden it's €300 at the moment :(

sold out

No, not really. You'll need rudder pedals with any yoke. Otherwise, you'll have to stick with some kind of joystick with a twist action doubling for the rudder.

@@Stringbean421 Thanks, i bougt the thrustmaster 16000M Works well for me :)

@@Stringbean421 simpy not true

Giorgio Croci Candiani it seems like a very high quality finish I don’t think it will degrade but only time will tell I guess. Hoping it doesn’t!

😂😂😂

Maciek Skórnik It is perfect. Landing gear,flap switch,TOGA are all programmed. I can’t recommend it enough

Togapower I wish I could load a picture of my setup. It’s really hard to beat the Yoko and Thrustmaster

@@Cloudybox12 Hi Jeff, I was used to my TM Warthog, so I bought the TM TCA pack Airbus, bad idea my friend... The Throttle of the TCA pack is a plastic toy compared to the TM WH Throttle, so I had the idea to do what you mentioned above (to put the WH Throttle on the right side), do you still use this setup? Tks

@@xdiver01 Yes. I use the Yoko yoke and the Thrustmaster throttle. It’s a $250 throttle and surely not a plastic piece of junk.

i bought one off mypilotstore.com

@@Dertheus ayy me too

@@FedoraSnatcher I cancelled my order 1 day before it shipped so I could have enough money for a new pc build 😭 bought a logitech 3d pro tho

@@Dertheus i cancelled mine too LOL

@@FedoraSnatcher hahaha why

I was thinking the same thing. And the switches are set up exactly to match the plane he’s flying!

Yes you are :)

@Sam who is "us"? You and your mama?

I got mine at Marv Golden Pilot Supplies. They were in stock 11-12-19.