What is your favourite tech in this video? Let us know 👇 UPDATE: 25 April 2024. Since publishing this video there have been some questions and comments regarding the Elitewheels hub. There has since been a statement from Elitewheels regarding this product > www.elite-wheels.com/company-news/investigation-into-patent-issues-regarding-the-drive-helixs-helical-dual-ratchet-system/
It would have been the Qvist freehub, sadly I just have seen a chinese ripoff of their idea. Lewis brakes steal most design from Trickstuff, now this company is stealing from Qvist.... This is why there's 0 chinese part on my bike. I prefer people who create to people who steal
Not sure how it would work in the UK or EU, but I am pretty sure that in the US that plastic bike while it is using recycled plastic would require paying to get rid of it unfortunately. I am not certain that the powers that be would buy into the recycling of something so large. Just like you have to pay to recycle a computer or a bottle, I can see having to pay to recycle that. If it takes off, I can even see having to pay to purchase it like what we call CRV.
That hub with double side ratchet definitely it’s not a patented product. That a QVIST idea and they have a patented in pending on it. Will be nice if you guys check that information and come back with an explanation.
@@br_obert i dont care especially about the germans so stop crying. Germans destroyed and robbed half the world in 20th century so it is funny they are getting robbed in 21st. Guess this is what karma is
The Igus bike reminds massively of the old Volvo Itera Cambridge yummy mummies used to ride when I was a kid before Raleigh invented the gravel bike with the Pioneer which didn't fade and go all strange. Cool to see Igus doing something market visible. They have always done interesting and high quality stuff on the proprietary engineering supply side. Used lots of their bits at TVR for hinges, linear actuators and sliders in things like electric window mechs and throttle linkages. The bike's driveline and wheel hub parts probably came straight out of their own catalogue! Great stuff. 👍
Isn’t that bicycle hub under (edit: Pending )patent by a German brand? Edit: I looked it up. The brand is called Qvist and they showed it two years before. That copy doesn’t even run as smooth.
Like the IGUS. great commuter and camping bike. Really keen on the Cane Creek forks and the Van Rysel looks awesome. I'm sure Trek, Specialized etc will be getting a bit squeaky.....
That igus recycled plastic bike sounds interesting in a utilitarian sense. I do wonder how it compares in terms of recyclability compared to a steel frame, though.
The future of gravel is a 90s hard tail, all it needs is a company to offer narrow straight bar with stumpy bar ends. Wonder if Pace will come back with gravel fork
90s MTBs and gravel bikes do share a lot of features but that's no bad thing! How fun where those bikes? With mountain bikes getting more and more extreme. Gravel bikes have filled that middle market 🙌
@@FOTB407 because it's fun seeing Germans cry. They destroyed and robbed half of Europe in 20th century so cool to see them taste their own shit in 21st
With plastic bikes you must keep in mind the material decomposes quite quickly (within a couple of years) because of evaporation of the plastisizer and the impact of UV light that both make the material brittle. Perhaps professor Ollie can spend some time on this in a video.
Qvis hubs for the win! Wait what? It isn’t Qvis? I saw them two years ago. I’m sure Simon mispoke or that company is stealing intellectual property from Qvis
1:22 come on guys, that double sided free hub is a ripoff from QVIST, they invented that years ago, support small companies that are creating fresh stuff, chinese ripoff never workout good...
Hi GCN Tech Team. Unfortunately it's nearly impossibly to always be aware, if a design is patented, or who invented it. But after a lot of comments and personal messages it would be fair and square to give QVIST the audience they are deserving and pointing out, that you felt for a copycat. The Team from Dresden invented something new and put a lot of work in it. Get in contact with them, they are great.
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If you buy a Team Edition, they'll give you the kid's version for free! Maybe a Sea Otter special only though, so if you're in the area, today (Sunday) is the last day.
The hub you showed is just a cheap copy of the qvist hub. Sad to see shameless copycats like that flooding the market and even sadder that GCN puts so little effort in researching the topic when they say that this is supposedly a world's first 🤦♂️
I want to express my disappointment regarding CGN Tech promoting the Elite freehub design that bears a striking resemblance to the innovative work pioneered by the German start-up, Qvist. As cycling enthusiasts, we value authenticity, craftsmanship, and respect for intellectual property rights. Qvist’s freehub design represents a leap forward in efficiency, durability, and elegance. It embodies the spirit of true innovation, and its creators deserve recognition for their hard work. However, seeing what appears to be a direct imitation of Qvist’s design raises concerns. As a community, we thrive when we celebrate originality and uphold the principles of creativity. By promoting products that may infringe on copyrights or mimic existing innovations, we inadvertently undermine the very essence of engineering excellence. I understand that the cycling industry is vast, with countless products flooding the market. Still, I implore GCN Tech to exercise due diligence in vetting the designs you feature. I hope that future content aligns with the values we hold dear.
What if Qvist has licensed their free hub design to other brands, such as ELITE or the patent is not valid for some reason that we don't know? ELITE is a big company, not a shady manufacturer. I don't think they would take this kind of risk.
Well.. now we know there is a patent issue. What bugs me is how quickly people are making judgement and assumptions on Chinese companies and the xenophobic spirit underlying this behaviour. I have no doubt the qvist team has done a great innovative product that is patented or currently into a patent process. And I have no doubt elite has been honest in the development of their products and patent process (they apparently own some patent for this design. Two similar designs that appear at the same time from other parts of the world are far from rare. There have been a lot of designs and tech invented by several people at the same time in the world. The phone, light bulbs are a good example. Now it is a job for IP lawyers...
I do. Keeps the spares out of the elements. Plus, the added weight is lower on the bike compared to a saddle bag. Have it in my mountain bike and absolutely love it.
So this “Elite” company just blatantly copies designs and then attempts to sell them as their own? Where have we seen “wavy”’rim designs before? And now they copied a hub, too?
All aspects of the bicycle are adapted and improved, that's how it works. Should shimano and sram give up making derailleur because Campagnolo made them first?
Hi, thanks for the comment. Since publishing this video, Elitewheels has published a statement www.elite-wheels.com/company-news/investigation-into-patent-issues-regarding-the-drive-helixs-helical-dual-ratchet-system/
When will your bosses realize that closing GCN+ was the worst idea ever? As a Canadian I won't be watching cycling this year because of flo bikes. And landlocked even though VPN for discovery+ they've made is so people can't sign up unless your billing address is in the correct country.
@@tinglydingle yes, when bike has only one rear sprocket then the chain is inline. Rest is just a compromise, and I just dont see a reason why to economy on front deraileur in a 10k+ bike? Weigth savings? Aero benefits? U just get a compromised version of everything.
More crap the average overweight weekend warrior doesn't need and can't afford. And personally I don't care about all the e-motorcycle junk anyway. Just another battery that needs to be manufactured and charged.
Enve Frey -- the frame set almost 6000 Euro ?! HAHAHA -- these bikes are ridicolous -- only for rich people , dentists and lawyers etc. Not so interested about this category of "bikes" actually !
We're very lucky to have brands like elite as partners here on the show 🙌 They allow us to do amazing videos like this, as for e-bikes, we love them. They really are great for those that can't/don't cycling often. As a gateway to a healthy lifestyle the E-bike has helped so many people. We're very sad about GCN+ too and it was never something we wanted to do. We hope you can enjoy our RU-vid content though!
@@gcntech So very humble of you, despite promoting stolen tech, instead of doing your research, or even promoting a small company, that came up with the idea (Qvist), but can't afford to write you a fat Cheque
@@gcntech Can you explain why didn't disclose that you are partnered with Elitewheels directly in the video, and why we have to check the description to discover this little bit of information? Do you feel these partnerships increase or decrease your editorial independence?
@@gcntech Yeah but you are promoting a brand that copies another brand just because they are sponsoring/paying you. Hope Qvist get the proper recognition on being the first to have this double ratchet system. Qvist for the win!
A heavy plastic bike is a very stupid idea. Only naive environmentalists buy one. In the 80s, there was a bicycle brand, Itera, in Sweden that made bicycles in plastic. Most of it was made of plastic, even the wheels, cranks and handlebars were made of plastic. Heavy as few and flexed like a sheet of paper.
There was a time in the USA where things came in metal cans, glass bottles, and paper; people got fresh food, dairy, and beverages within their townships. Now the oceans and seas are full of crap that doesn't biodegrade in half a million years. People eat food that spent a month on a ship from the other side of the planet, and a lot of food ingredients could be made into the packaging it's wrapped in. And we're supposedly "innovative and green." How about that 3,300 acres of solar panels busted by a hail storm in TX that's filling the water table with toxic chemicals?
"A heavy plastic bike is a very stupid idea." - They didn't mention the weight of the bike. "Only naive environmentalists buy one." - They mentioned it could be used as hire bikes. "In the 80s...Heavy as few and flexed like a sheet of paper." - Material and structural science has move forward significantly in 40 years. Compare cars from the 80s and today. Let's be a bit more optimistic and applaud the effort at least. Anything to put more people on bikes.
lol all you folks whining about patent infringement. 3 words. Nobody. Else. Cares. Watch as elite sells the new wheels hubs in greater quality in half a year, than what that other god knows what German brand has in the past 2 years. Because, no one else cares about something as petty as that. And shouting support qvist? Sure. Go buy their hub. Speak with your wallet, because talk is cheap. Or let’s be real, you won’t, because you don’t haven’t financially supporting anything cycling related since electricity was invented.
What’s in for you for defending stealing of intellectual property? You are wrong several times. Beginning with the caring factor. I care. And it’s pretty f*** up.
@@br_obert what’s in it for me? Nothing. I just enjoy and love watching and calling out all your outrage which is nothing but empty hypocrisy. Come on, talk is cheap. Or does your outrage lead to Qvist lining there wallet? Nope, it won’t. Because you’re still using your hub from 2000 as it “still works” on your steel bike. Plus, even if you need to, you’ll buy the cheapest hub that you can find instead of Qvist, because you think that modern day stuff are “overpriced needless complexity”. I may be wrong lol, but at least I’be got the sense to see things for what they are instead of what you think it should be, which is more than what most of you seem to do lol.
