Illegal Super Bike | So Fast It Was Banned!

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Have we finally found the first carbon fibre monocoque UCI-banned superbike which can topple the time of a modern road bike? The Hotta has Tour de France Prologue Victories and Olympic Medals to its name and we've got not just one, but two of these very special machines to pit against a brand-new Canyon Aeroad. But there's a twist, one of the Hotta's is kitted out in full retro-guise, but the other, is a modern take, assembled with cutting-edge components to blend the two worlds into one. Could this create the ultimate mix of modern efficiency with old-school aerodynamic madness? There's only one way to find out!
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0:00 - Intro
0:22 - The Retro Bikes We've Ridden So Far
02:19 - The Route For The Challenge
03:14 - Riding The Hotta
09:06 - The Modern Canyon Aeroad Competitor
12:54 - How Fast Is A Modern Hotta?
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@gcn 24 дня назад

Have you ever wanted to kit out a retro bike with modern components? What would you choose?

@___Bebo___ 24 дня назад

I'd like an old purple Panasonic road frame with Campag down shifters and groupset. Haven't gotten around to building it, don't really have a good use for it.

@truthseeker8483 24 дня назад

I did.....modern drive trains are a game changer..as are modern tyres and sealed bearings. What brand is the Carbon fork on the retro Hotta?? Is it 1 inch?

@zevrobins905 24 дня назад

i have a absolute fantastique tokerr u-district single speed built built but the now-defunct seattle bike company. it has a flip-flop hub and i spin-out at around 48.25km p/h (30mph). i am 100% torn between restoring this cool old-bike with lightweight, modern parts, or buying a new fixed-gear and upgrading the heck out of it.

@___Bebo___ 24 дня назад

@@zevrobins905 Just get a Wabi bro, the Reynolds 725 steel for 450 bucks is a no brainer. That bike is either Hi Ten steel or non butted CroMoly which is basically the same thing, it for sure has a Hi Ten Fork. The Wabi feels like a race bike from the 1980s, but even lighter and more stiff in the seatstays.

@DavidCasebeer-wf8by 24 дня назад

I have done this. I took my 1977 Mercian Professional (185k miles) had Mercian rejig for 11/12 from the original 125mm. Outfitted with Record 11 and Eurus wheels. Dropped 1.8 kilos to 9.8 for the bike. What did I feel, better shifting and that's about it. Still smooth and stiff and fast. But I am 69 rather than 22.

@ivordavies1828 25 дней назад

I had one of the last Hotta TT's in 1999. It had Mavic Mektronic, Zipp carbon cranks and Hed 60mm Deep Wheels. All done in clearcoat so the carbon showed. It was not just a bike, it was a work of art as well. I miss that bike!

@JibbaJabber 25 дней назад

😢

@the318pop 25 дней назад

I had one of the Linda McCartney team bikes, super rare FIR trispoke and Hed disc. Why oh why did I sell it.

@gcn 23 дня назад

Ooo sounds like an epic machine 👌 Why did you get rid of it? 😢

@death2pc 20 дней назад

So. You tossed it for the constant next "latest, greatest". It's all the bike, nothing more. Focus on the bike only. ps: I just bought some "aero" chain lube and I can attest.... It IS faster. Really. I swear.

@JibbaJabber 25 дней назад

'Bit of a speed wobble'😮 @10:20 Explains why Ollie didn't turn up - change of kit required!

@richardhutchings1980 25 дней назад

Looked really scary didn't it?

@Shayzare 13 дней назад

I thought it wasn't gonna end well when it started to wobble wobble!! 😵‍😵‍

@sportydavek1590 25 дней назад

I still regret sellling my Metron TT bike. It was very similar to a Hotta but finished in bare varnished carbon and was simply beautiful.

@curtisducati 25 дней назад

I have seen a few of them come up on daft Ebay , last one was about a year ago , rare bike ..

@gcn 23 дня назад

We've all got one that got away! 🤣 Would you ever pick another up, or has that ship sailed?

@stephenmackay9762 11 дней назад

A true work of art, I got mine with a 24k gold Olympic symbol just under the seat, the only one ever made. Sadly I do not take it out much as it turns too many heads, I do not think I have ever taken it out and not been stopped. Who else has this type of Metron bike?

@sportydavek1590 11 дней назад

@gcn - that ship has sailed. The reality is that it always looked better than it rode. The rear brake never worked. It was tricky in cross winds (I remember the rear wheel lifting off the ground in a strong gust once) and it wasn't that light or stiff. The pros were that it made the perfect TT bike noise, especially with a disc wheel and looked amazing.

@pkeppler6249 25 дней назад

Old frame with modern components and fit ideology 👍. Love it! More, please!

@Mainsail333 24 дня назад

Might call it a Resto-Mod

@gcn 23 дня назад

That would go split opinions though! Should you keep it classic or change things up?

@arekb5951 20 дней назад

@@gcn I mean, if it's YOUR bike, do whatever pleases YOU

@RyTrapp0 9 дней назад

@@gcn The automotive & motorcycle worlds will let you know when they've come to a conclusion on that question lol

@TheRJAD 8 дней назад

@@gcnI expected a detailed view on the GCN tech channnel of the “new” Hotta

@halnorwood6978 25 дней назад

Simon Aske who designed the bike and owns it, now makes brilliant steel frames. Love mine!

@letsgetdoing 24 дня назад

Just looked him up, his work is sick. Thanks!

@seraph4581 23 дня назад

Really great to have modern components on the frame for the later run. In most of these videos the limiting factors on older bikes are tires and gears. Please do these more often!

@lordraiden5398 25 дней назад

Love seeing these old carbon bikes from my youth. The best bike I have ever owned was in my mid 20's. Polished clear coated Vitus 979 aluminum. It had a Shimano 105 group set with a beautiful perforated leather, titanium rail Selle Italia Flite seat. Loved that bike. Nothing I have had since compares. Would love to build one with a modern groupset and wider tires. Oh and a waxed chain 😊

@bwri9081 25 дней назад

I agree. My Vitus 979 (dark blue) circa 1989 was the most comfortable bike I have ridden. I built mine with Shimano 600 (Ultegra for those not as long in the tooth as I am). Funny, now companies are trying to get away from super stiff carbon and trying to make it "compliant". Vitus had this figured out in the late 70's and 80's.

@EMC2Scotia 23 дня назад

I remember seeing these Hotta bikes in Cycling Weekly, and those RTTC TT's. Great throwback video, I would suggest that Litespeed bike from this era that was a V shape for the next installment in this series

@nustylehair8495 22 дня назад

Chapeau GCN thank you for video celebrating the engineering genius of Simon ASKE. The Campagola TT rear wheel on the Hokka is my Dad’s; Ken Dean, from his time trial bike from the late 80’s.I have the pleasure today of riding a ASKE steel bike…..well deserved recognition indeed for Simon.

@PaulJohnson-tl9ph 25 дней назад

You guys are so entertaining, thanks keep it up!!! 🤣👍

@bmwflyfisher 25 дней назад

Not a TT bike fan, but…Wow, the new component Hotta is HOT. The look of that thing is great. All of these remind me of the Trek Y mountain bike…Much later, but it was beautiful.

@lolly166541 25 дней назад

It's exactly what the frame needed! Like holy wet bananas, I can imagine that that's what they've had fantasized about 30 years ago.

@gcn 23 дня назад

Hahaha you know a bike is hot when a non TT fan likes it 🔥

@LaurentiusTriarius 21 день назад

If someone made a homage I'd probably get in line with all the other suckers 😂

@user-iv9qj9yk7j 5 дней назад

As a physics major my freshman year of college in 1989 I designed a bike on paper which was based on an arch from the stem to the rear hub. Imagine my surprise when I learned someone actually built one! The Hotta is not simply a work of art, it is superior engineering to the Lotus. An arch will resist flexion and create strength - consider a Samurai sword. I had to have one, but could not afford it until they were banned. I used mine for triathlons, where they remained legal. I upgraded to a Reynolds Ouzo Pro solid carbon fork, which resolved the flexion issues. My wheels are the original Specialized Tri spokes, which still spin forever! I added Deda Bandito aerobars and AxLightness solid carbon seat.I eventually upgraded to SRAM Red for their carbon shifters, but my crankset remains the FSAcarbon Superlight ISIS. It is an absolute rocket!

@ryangreenhow 25 дней назад

Every time I hear "Canyon Aero" I immediately think of the Simpson's Canyonero jingle. :P

@larrylem3582 24 дня назад

She blinds everybody with her super high beams, She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!

@johnellis6944 22 дня назад

Hotta gave me one for a year in 97 or maybe 98 for racing Tri's. Terrifying in a cross wind but it was a rocket ship - I always felt that if i had better legs it would go faster - never found the point where i felt it was at its speed / aero limit. It just felt like it could always go faster. The tech for the time was incredible and that carbon fork had a titanium steerer tube. I do miss that bike. Thank you for doing this - awesome work and it's bringing back some cool memories.

@rogerbarr6988 25 дней назад

How about Graham Obree interview and bike review !!!

@secretsquirrel3793 25 дней назад

Oh yes please. I really hope that Mr O has more wild ideas up his sleeve. Loved his Beastie!

@sergioleon4771 22 дня назад

I love your videos guys, so entertaining and I learn a lot from bikes, they motivate me to keep on riding! 🚲

@markjthomson 24 дня назад

Gentlemen... 30 years old is a CLASSIC, not an antique... and in learning that, I feel that also answers the question about yourselves! Stop selling yourselves short! Great vid.

@gcn 23 дня назад

Retro maybe? 🤣

@DJDUBED 25 дней назад

I have 2 of these and a lotus 110, i love my hotta thats set up for track! Still great to ride nowadays

@gcn 23 дня назад

Wow that is awesome! Which one do prefer to ride? Hotta or a 110?

@n22pdf 24 дня назад

This is brilliant guys lovely to see this bike and a version with updated components excellent 😊 please do more of these type vids dudes❤ Pete 🚴🏻👍

@gcn 23 дня назад

Thanks Pete! Any other bikes we should check out? 👀

@n22pdf 23 дня назад

@@gcn How about Giant MCR vs Hotta ? although they are very similar..

@nwiniata4776 7 дней назад

I had a Hotta, - from 2003 to 2009. Black, A Road Fame - but set up as a Fixie. With Corima 4 Spoke Carbon Wheels, Campagnolo Record Pista Crank, Profile Integrated stem and 'Bullhorn' Handlebars, and a Modolo Kronos Front Brake. It really was a bike that got better & better the faster it went...

@l.d.t.6327 25 дней назад

I have a ghibli wheel. You won't notice much difference with the modern disc wheel: just glue a 25mm modern tubular on it. Most of the technical gains are obviously in the tires / tubulars used: you probably just went slower in the curves and that doesn't have much to do with the wattage.

@CoreyDavey-hf8wb 20 дней назад

Lovely to see you guys filming down in teign valley, be great to see you guys do more videos down this neck of the woods.

@jefffarmer9200 25 дней назад

Beautiful bike. I really dislike the way the UCI does its best to stop innovation of bicycles.

@jed1mstr 25 дней назад

I never get tired of Si's Bovine Phobia

@gcn 23 дня назад

We're not sure Si feels the same! He things it's udderly ridiculous that we keep milking the joke 😉

@simonharris5414 25 дней назад

Awesome video. I used to drive Simon Aske and Colin Lewis crazy as a Kid drinking all their tea in the shop. Always remember that bike on the wall in the old Paignton shop. I think I was loaned that Spinergy wheel for a RTC Nationals back when I was a JR. It's typical of Simon that he never boasted of the fact that he was such a skilled engineer. I was lucky to have him as my mechanic. I am currently rebuilding my dads old bike which we got from Simon.

@gcn 23 дня назад

The bike world is full of these silent cycling geniuses 🙌 Did you ever get to swing your leg over the Hotta? 🔥

@MrRNoble9 23 дня назад

@@gcn And its worth a shout out to Angus Noble who founded Carbon Design and helped make it a reality. I'm biased as his son of course. We both love the GCN show! I still have the original with the single rear stay and used to cycle it around Bristol.

@adadinthelifeofacyclist 25 дней назад

I believe the original riding position would've been designed to be riden sat right forward (on the saddle and on the, um... no-man's-land-bit) with a flat lower back, not arched round like in the GCN modern set up

@ThePerks2010 10 дней назад

I was eighteen when this came out, i was still getting excited about my first aluminium frame and alloys 😂 I'd have probably exploded at seeing this!

@kithinders1086 25 дней назад

I love these comparison videos, keep them coming. Ventum's new One (?) has the same shape as the Hotta, you guys reckon you can get your ones on one of those? Maybe the GTN folks have already tested it and I'm missing that. Bring it to GCN!!! (you chum (retro/relics or not) make a lovely presenting duo as well)

@davidellis578 24 дня назад

I believe the main difference in the handling is due to the fork. I had purchased a Hotta fork for my TT bike many years ago and it was a thing if beauty, but riding on northern Ontario road, destroyed by constant frost heave, resulted in some tense moments with fork flex, so I reverted back to the Columbus steel fork. However, Clara Hughes, one of my idols, brought home to Canada a bronze at the Atlanta Olympics.

@mommamooney 24 дня назад

Si and Ollie are like kids in a toy shop. “Whoa, would you look at that!!!”

@gcn 23 дня назад

Both in their happy place for sure 🤣

@crusherbmx 20 дней назад

I was riding in 1993 and this bike WAS radical, but it wasn't alien or anything, it doesn't look any crazier than some of the 1984 Olympic bikes.

@mystoller 25 дней назад

I think I am going to be sick! After racing through the 90s and into the pro ranks in the 2000s, I ended up with a fair amount of bikes that usually either got returned to the team or ended up in my parent's garage. Somehow, in the late 90s I was given a prototype bike frame that was in need of some love. The frame was all black and said Infinity on it, it was cracked in two spots and it had a missing rear wheel, a special tri-spoke number that mounted to the one-sided rear end. I knew it was a special bike but since I was missing key parts and it was cracked I caved in to my Dad´s request to clear out some of my old bikes from his garage a few years ago and guess what found its way into the bin!! I knew I was going to regret it but after watching this and knowing the full story I am really bummed!

@stephenmackay9762 11 дней назад

Metron, a true monocoque and an engineering marvel. As was mentioned in the video the HOTTA was made in parts and stuck together, I think they had issues splitting. The Metron on the other hand was made in one go (not stuck together).

@user-li1vc2jz8g 23 дня назад

Great to see the Teign valley road on GCN.

@brockjennings 25 дней назад

I had a pair of Spinergy Rev-X wheels. Installing the available X-brace between the spokes made a big difference in reducing flex.

@QoraxAudio 24 дня назад

12:46 Oh gawd that brake squeal! 😂😂

@wiseoldman5841 20 дней назад

Looks like the 30 year old frame was clearly better with new components! So much for progress..lol

@billrowan1957 17 дней назад

I can't imagine the frustration of the drivers that get stuck behind a bicycle video

@colinricketts1415 25 дней назад

Richard Prebble used to come to the club 10's near Cheltenham with a Hotta in the mid 90's, it looked amazing bike especially since most of us had steel road bikes with tri bars with an occasional low pro bike with a funny small front wheel .

@gcn 23 дня назад

How did the bike do up against the steel race machines? ⚙💨

@colinricketts1415 23 дня назад

@@gcn any bike at that time with Richard on it would have been a fast bike! the sound that bike made (possibly the disc wheel, but somehow it was louder than other disks) was a 10 or 15 meter warning he was overtaking. Both him and the bike were in a different league

@michellejohnstone6106 23 дня назад

Great video brings back great memories of a bike that was so futuristic at the time. What saddlebag does Ollie have on his new Canyon?

@veloman59 24 дня назад

Great film guys. I think I'd go for the Hotta. Mainly because I remember watching Richard Prebble winning the National 25 mile TT way back in 93 I think it was. It looked super cool then. Nice to see you use Ambrosio A8 forks on the modernised version too. I used to work for the company that produced them.

@johnfitzgerald1192 2 часа назад

Off note: It was doing that when I was staying in my mobile home and before when I was living in a apartment. That's why I left that type of living and became homeless. Now it's trying to make move out of a box.

@theoteddy9665 20 дней назад

I saw that wobble imediately😂that was pantscrapping indeed😂

@adamrudling1339 25 дней назад

Beautiful modern upgrade, e stay frames have a special look for me.

@user-tm4iy8mv7c 25 дней назад

Such a beauty in deed. How about a BP Stealth? Or a BP2 Stealth? These run in the same group as the Hotta. So cool. I have a BP2. It’s mostly for my wall. I have used it in the 12 hour ultra world championships for just under an hour just to say I did. Since then it stays on the wall. Beautiful. Really nice program! Cheers!

@amanahmed8322 25 дней назад

Still have my 1998 Hotta and Spinergy wheels.

@edwardrissington3218 25 дней назад

I also raced on 18mm tyres. For the racing season I would move from my training bike to my race bike and it was certainly twitchy at first but I would quickly get used to it.

@TimR123 25 дней назад

Sheez!, That “Speed wobble” at 8:00 was insane. 😱🙀 I’ve never seen a bike look so much like cooked noodles.

@gcn 23 дня назад

Imagine riding it 😬 Talk about compliance 🤣

@TimR123 23 дня назад

@@gcn you know... that might make a good video. Maybe on the road with mounted cameras. Maybe a lab with some engineers? Show what is really going on with bikes as we roll down the road. Most of us can't visualize what is happening in 'compliance' and 'stiffness' The parts ARE moving and distorting. (Most not as insanely as in this video) and it might be interesting to see it.

@rbonn3880 25 дней назад

Fascinating video, gents! Mesmerized by the incredible design for the Hotta (though Ollie's Canyon is pretty sweet, too)...

@gcn 23 дня назад

Different horses for different courses 🙌 If you had to, which one are you taking home?

@edwardrissington3218 25 дней назад

I had a Specialized Epic with carbon fiber tubes, aluminium joints and forks, with Shimano Ultegra components, MavicMA6 wheels bought in Banff Canada Dec 1993. It came with drop bars with drop ins(if you know what they were.). I raced triathlons on it, I just put some Profile airstryke tri bars on it.. The first time I actually raced it was Lanzarote Ironman 1994 after which I cut off the drop ins because they were dangerous. After a move to New Zealand in 2000 I still raced it till 2010 and was still beating most modern bikes.

@dkelly7159 22 дня назад

I had one of those too. Amazing deep ruby red paint job. 👍

@AQUPAS 24 дня назад

GCN with the 4K upload!! Thanks guys ❤

@joshuajosephs5562 24 дня назад

Yet whats amazing is that Greg Lemond still owns the fastest time trial over any longer distance at TdF 30+ years later.

@dkelly7159 22 дня назад

Also Boardman still has the fastest Prologue time on an "antique" bike with a low position. So this video is basically nonsense but it keeps the sponsors happy 😂

@seal1mas 19 дней назад

Still got my Giant MCR, such a unique TT bike, but i've given it the modern updates!!

@AlistairLattimore 25 дней назад

Love seeing the old bike pimped out with new gear!

@gcn 23 дня назад

Always cool to see an old bike with new parts 😎

@davemoss6976 22 дня назад

Interesting conclusion that the frame matters very little compared with achieving the best body position. it would be good to see how Graeme Obree's home made frame with modern wheels and components would compare. aero factors aside one of Graeme's key objectives was to bring the feet as close as possible, hence the washing machine bottom bracket bearing. I expect the narrow bottom bracket is also more aero as well as improved power transfer.

@chrisridesbicycles 25 дней назад

I love this series. Can Ollie ask his mate Fausto if he can borrow the tour 1997 Pinarello Parigina? Also, this should be taken beyond TT bikes. I'd love the see how an old steel bike with curved fork stacks up on cobbles.

@JibbaJabber 25 дней назад

@16:14 Si, don't lie! You love the 'modern' Hotta because it comes in the GCN colourway. Just needs a few of these at back to finish the paint job 🔥🔥🔥🔥 #Hot

@kennethgislum2073 24 дня назад

I also remember the futuristic Pinarellos ridden by both Indurain, Riis and Ulrich - especially the one Bjarne Riis threw into the field in TDF.

@millicentawour9482 23 дня назад

In need of your gcn 1 windbreaker, gained much from your coaching time to shine

@pittviper6320 25 дней назад

The flex on that front wheel! 😮🤦🏼‍♂️

@gcn 23 дня назад

Scary right! Did you catch Alex trying these wheels out over on GCN Tech 👉ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TSgiBDVd3s8.html

@user-rg5fp7ok3t 24 дня назад

The old spec machine is in effect just a snapshot, back in the last century most racing bikes evolved from week to week, month to month, very often the bike that ended the season only shared the frame and maybe wheels from the start. My '78 race bike changed paint every couple of years and went from all rounder to a pseudo low pro tt across its life. The 'new spec' Hotta is typical of that evolution, these days people change whole bikes, we used to change single parts, it was rare to find a race bike with one brand parts let alone a full groupset !

@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 22 дня назад

Build up a that hotta bike with as close the same position as the canyon, same handlebars, wheels (if possible) same groupset, everything besides the frame. Then retest please.

@bikeanddogtrips 25 дней назад

tech question idea about something i thought about several years ago and this bike prompted me as a suitable candidate. so you know how golf balls have dimples on them to improve aerodynamics? so how about very think stick on transfer patches over key areas of bikes with dimples (kind of like bubble wrap but more high tech). it would be interesting to see how much of a marginal gain this could make . how much of a difference in aerodynamics would be made when comparing the height to the position of the raised bits and would it become enough of a specialised subject to vary the height and spread of the raised bits according to the bike geometry? Benefit of stick on transfers means that they can easily be removed too if the uci does the usual.

@StuartMossTV 25 дней назад

Guys you need to get one of the beam bikes next. Either a Zipp 2001/3001, a Trek Y Foil 77 or the ultra rare LeMond Boomerang. The Zipp was the record holder for the Hawaii Ironman course.

@gcn 23 дня назад

How do you think this bike compare to the MCR?

@StuartMossTV 23 дня назад

@@gcnit looks to be built better than the MCR, because it doesn’t flex all over the place. I do still prefer the MCR from an aesthetics point of view, with its matching aero seat post etc (but then I’m probably a bit biased). As with all of this era of bikes I still wonder if they were actually any more aerodynamic? I mean most of the designs were the product of guess work and hand drawings. Maybe that’s a future video, get them ALL in the wind tunnel and measure them? 😃👍

@howardwhite5131 22 дня назад

They could try a Softride Power V.

@harrywagner3877 19 дней назад

I still have a Trek Y foil 77 . Unfortunately I'm over 80 & unable to ride any more.

@lanternmatt2002 25 дней назад

hotta: it gets cooler from here

@rccc5806 13 дней назад

Great show. Though, half in it, still no idea why it's so good. Maybe next time.

@karlnorgaard9447 19 дней назад

As to Simon's comment, that the bladed fr wheel/ fork combo was flexy... I say, in the last few years, have we not all started riding wider, softer tires? We can always learn by revisiting the past. I have steel and carbon road bikes. I dont race or anything, but I often feel my old steel FUJI is as fast or faster than my Pinarello.

@philmccracken2012 17 дней назад

The only thing that should be banned are the clothes that they are wearing in the thumbnail

@fuzzyfella 7 дней назад

Hotta every day of the week... I am lucky to have a custom steel monster cross bike made by Simon Aske. It is brilliant and I would recommend anyone to get one of his bikes.

@Chrisblottphoto 25 дней назад

Every Vid with Si is a good vid.

@BikesKomsCRO 25 дней назад

298w and 301w is okay to compare.. But 311 watts is different.

@luukrutten1295 25 дней назад

Its a good thing when a bike makes you push the pedals harder! Si just couldnt contain himself.

@danielburges8176 25 дней назад

A Lotus 110 with all the modern kit would be the perfect solution

@simonlbenson 25 дней назад

Ooooooh I see height you were going to come of when you got that speed wobble 😂

@krehme 25 дней назад

I would take the Lotus, I guess just because I have fond memories of it. A friend let me borrow his for a TT. The Lotus was a blast… so smooth.

@DJDUBED 25 дней назад

I own both, love the hotta as Day to day bike a bit more

@billkallas1762 25 дней назад

Love those Spinergy Rev-X wheels. I still have a pair, from the stone age. 19mm Conti Comps?

@stevezodiac491 24 дня назад

so have I, they aren't very fast.

@enigma335i 25 дней назад

my spinergy wheels had braces between the carbon spokes to provide stiffness that seem to be missing on these, not surprised they were flexing like crazy

@lunam7249 25 дней назад

mine have aluminum blades under the inside of the carbon blades, 8 per wheel😳, nice

@crusherbmx 20 дней назад

Talking about the aggressive riding position, roadies were so macho back in the day, 20mm or smaller tires, 13-18 cassettes, 53/42 chainrings, bars slammed as low as they can go...toe clips....it was an initiation thing I guess, and coming from BMX, it was a challenge that I struggled to meet...and never really accomplished.

@leighdickinson8299 25 дней назад

Brilliant Lads

@peterleffler2062 23 дня назад

At last. The old bike with the new build. I'm with Si. If go for drop bars and all the other modern kit. You might have a bit of a chimney under the bars but it would still be super cool. I'd look ridiculous on it but the bike would be cool.😂

@doesitgame 6 дней назад

I don’t care if anything is faster, the Campag disc and Spinergy Rev-X on the Hotta automatically win the “bike to flex with” competition.

@9psi 24 дня назад

Next you can try the rmit superbike (which may have become BT??) Was good to see the updated components. Much better comparison

@Norm0770 25 дней назад

I went back to watch the Ullrich TT bike episode and Ollie was 30 seconds quicker than on the modern aero road bike at the same power and Si was exactly the same speed. It would be interesting to the see the Walser TT bike with modern position vs a modern TT bike.

@simonstucki 25 дней назад

very interesting! So can we conclude, that bikes nowadays would be a lot faster if it weren't for the UCI limiting frame design? It seems that the only thing that improved was everything else than the frame. Imagine doing that experiment the other way around, putting the old forks, wheels, drivetrain on the canyon and also slam the position to match the Hotta, that would probably be a terrible bike.

@m.alih.2350 25 дней назад

15:08 I don't know if you'd make this video or if you've already done it but can you make a video where you get a very fast and sporty bike and a cheap bike and swap the parts between both of them so you'll be using the parts of the good bike on the cheap frame and the other way around for the other bike ? I think that would be a fun experiment

@tomkunich9401 25 дней назад

Easily the modernized Hotta. You have to realize just how awful super-narrow tires were/are. 18's were standard tube clinchers for a while, and I was in traction heaven when 23s came along. Wide tires have revolutionized the ride as well as the speed.

@NathanDelaney 25 дней назад

I miss spinergy wheels. Those were so great on my Stumpjumper with V brakes. I would definitely buy them with a disc brake verson, just so I never have to true my wheels.

@CarmineEspositoIT 25 дней назад

Would love to see you guys test the CAT Cheetah bike

@iletyouwin1 19 дней назад

You want suggestions, head to the states and just call around to random bike shops and see what they got. It's basically tradition for bike shops in the US to have a couple antique bikes with a bit of history.

@tangoadvance8393 24 дня назад

That looks so much better than today’s modern bikes the UCI have a lot to answer for.

@ZesPak 20 дней назад

Tbf without UCI intervention in the '30s most race bikes would be recumbents. So yeah, they have a lot to answer for.

@tangoadvance8393 20 дней назад

@@ZesPak lol,😂

@softpool1286 25 дней назад

hotta was really cool looking. would have loved to see a modern tt bike comparison along with modern road bike

@gcn 23 дня назад

Watch this space 👀 Maybe turn those notifications on too 😉

@michaelw2288 13 дней назад

The Lotus and Hotta wete developed independently, around the same time. Given the production method and materials, this shape was the best solution to putting the bits where they need to be. It was convergent not copying.

@rainerkaljumae5014 25 дней назад

Please also post a build video on the modern Hotta. Would love to see the components used and the price of them.

@Evaso_CC 25 дней назад

My dream bike back when I was at school. 😊

@chrishophoto 25 дней назад

Interesting bike for sure! I did notice that the chain stays on the modern equipped Hotta look beefier. It would not surprise me if the layup was different as well. Most certainly the original fork combined with an old Spinergy wheel would be handful. Fun stuff!

@1ongava 22 дня назад

That fork as fast as it was, liked to fall apart and was flexi as. Shame

@5tanw0rr311 25 дней назад

The Paragon had a Hotta owner in our ranks, a Neil Hood, must have been one of the first batch of Hotta's in carbon with yellow decals I think. Never did get a chance to ride it. I would take the Hotta with a modern twist so I could still race it in CTT events 😉. Lotus is eyewatering but but .... maybe you could do the same with the Lotus, change to modern components and then go head to head on a proper TT course...

@princeedmunddukeofedinburg 25 дней назад

Stunning bikes

@gcn 23 дня назад

Absolute classics 👌

@audiodoctor100 22 дня назад

I have a question, are gears always faster? I ride the groups at regents who keep a pretty good pace, I don’t think there’s much gear changes going on but I always keep up. I ride a fixed and always wonder how much better do gears make you? (I’m quick but I’m not as good all the guys there but I try my hardest)

@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 24 дня назад

Once you have seen a Spinergy wheel explode at speed (tube down through the rim, as it delaminated) you never want to see another one again. I'm surprised they rode it.

@stuartmisfeldt3068 25 дней назад

Like to see more neoclassical/retro modern bikes!

@gcn 23 дня назад

Any bikes in mind? 👀

@stuartmisfeldt3068 22 дня назад

@@gcn taking a ‘90’s steel frame (Colnago, Pinarello, Bianchi) with 130 dropouts and up grading to 11 or 12 speed with possibly wider rims and tyres. Converting an older touring or cyclocross frame to gravel with cantilever brakes, maybe 650 wheels with long caliper brakes. Using modern polished aluminum cranksets and brake sets and finishing kit, upgrade that ‘90’s frame to compact or subcompact gearing for us old farts.