The significance of Viserys not telling Daemon about the dream A Song of Ice and Fire is that Daemon was his heir a while before Rhaenyra was and he still wasn't told about it which shows Viserys never saw him as a serious candidate. Rhaenyra assumed in that conversation he did know which is why he gets angry and grabs her throat.
@@pastychong obviously it has significance to her. her father told her years ago, and she knows what it's about and probably why he never told Daemon. but why in the hell would Daemon have feelings about a secret prophecy he doesnt know anything about?
@@mathmexican4234 It’s not about the prophecy. Viserys told it to Rhaenyra, but not to Daemon, because Viserys didn’t see Daemon as a legitimate heir. Daemon really wanted approval from Viserys back in the day, so it stings a bit knowing he was just a placeholder, nothing more. Rhaenyra brings it up as if they both know about it, and she talks like it’s extremely important (it’s partly why she’s hesitant to go to war), and Daemon is hearing about this for the first time. So knowing his brother kept that from him, and the fact that Rhaenyra is showing weakness despite losing her birthright sets him off, and he lashes out.
Vermithor, the dragon Daemon sought out in the caves, was ridden by Jaehaerys I, The Old King. After he passed away no one tried to ride him, and it seems like Daemon wants his strength because he’s the second oldest and second largest dragon alive.
He’s not trying to claim him, he’s just getting him used to human contact again so that someone else can. Caraxes is the second most battle experienced dragon after Vhagar. Daemon isn’t trying to trade up or anything, not that it’s even possible. Dragons only take one rider and the bond is for life.
Did it really take them 10 episodes to realize how massive Vhagar is???? “Why is his dragon so much bigger?” The amount of context, history and lore that’s lost on them is astounding
The fact that they jump in surprise to Aemond being at the court instead of at Vhagar being there when the subtitles literally read VHAGAR. It's like, are they sleep walking through this season or what?
@@atomskthepirateking2776: When you're a sexually attractive woman you don't really pay much attention to anything other than yourself for the first few decades of your life, since they're essentially living life on autopilot.
It was never a exchange, Aemond said this to calm his mother down. He claimed Vhagar not exchanged then he lost a eye of course he doesn’t see it as a exchange also losing a eye is a traumatic experience especially as a kid, Luke possibly made it worse by laughing at him at the dinner scene because in the books Luke has a pig placed in front of Aemond so that explains why Luke was laughing at him because he had it placed there so that was like a f you to Aemond’s face.
What made the whole thing far worse and allowed anger to fester is that Viserys, Aemond's own father, did nothing for him. Not even a slap on the wrist nor apology. If you've just been maimed and your father shuns you like that it would create a whole lot of anger built up over the years
@@marleymarsssyou good dude I never excused it also it’s not like Aemond wanted him dead it was accident, it’s definitely Aemonds fault but it wasn’t his intention to kill Luke.
While it does not at all excuse him, I think Daemon choking Rhaenyra is still in character because she just gave him definitive proof that Viserys never considered him a proper heir to the throne. Rhaenrya assumed he knew because if Viserys ever planned on making Daemon the next king he would have told him the prophecy, the same way he did Rhaenyra. So when she says “he never told you…” she just realized all of this. Daemon’s been hearing people whisper about how he’s a reckless hothead and debaucher for years but he always had the assurance that he had the makings of a king, so he didn’t let it bother him. Now he realizes that his assurances were false, and that everyone was right about him all along and Viserys knew it. Still does not excuse him physically abusing Rhaenyra, but that’s my interpretation of why it’s still in character for him
Yeah it's weird to me when people say that it wasn't in character for him to choke her. Dude literally bashed his wife's head in with a rock and was chasing after a minor and was like one thought away from having sex with her. People just got too invested in the romance and forgot about all his evil deeds lmao Dude is not a good person 😂
I don't see how Daemon could even make that connection with just "Viserys shared it with me when he named me heir". Out of context that doesn't say anything really.
@@BrendanBeckett I appreciate that line of thinking but with how petty and vindictive Daemon has been throughout the season I don’t find it hard to believe at all that he would hear “when he named me heir” and then mentally add “and not you.” I believe he genuinely loves Rhaenyra and wants her to have the throne now, but earlier when Viserys called him out for toasting the “King for a day” in that brothel, Viserys implied that he was going to choose an heir. Daemon’s response was “I’m your heir.” Daemon holds grudges forever, so I believe it still rankles him that that his behavior cost him whatever chance he could have had at being king. I still believe when he realized that Rhaenyra was told about a prophecy meant for monarchs only, and that Rhaenyra assumed he knew about it, it broke him a little. He’s turning into more of a good person now that he’s married her, but that doesn’t mean he’s completely left behind his petty insecurity. Of course, all of this is only my interpretation of the story. I can try and defend why I believe it but I don’t want to force anyone to believe it. If what I said doesn’t make sense to you or anyone else that’s okay. I really appreciate your comment because it made me consider what I was saying more carefully
@@TheWarhero898 Choking his niece-wife who is a Targaryen and killing a random woman he was forced to marry, that he hates and hates him It's the exactly same thing.
The in story reason that Rhaenyra can't tell them about laenor is because "honor and duty" would make Corlys set out to go find him and force him him to come back The IRL reason that she can't tell them about laenor is because in the story he died. Him surviving is a show-only change.
Well, nothing in the show contradicts what's in the book. It could also be true there. It's a history book not objective, and history says Laenor was killed, so that's what the book would say.
@@BrendanBeckett Doesn't Seasmoke get a new rider? And correct me if I'm wrong the only way to ride someones dragon either they have to be present or the rider died So if Laenor is still alive and Seasmoke is going to get a new rider?
Well, the show-only change is officially stamped as canon by GRRM. Fire and blood was from the perspective of a maester. What we see in this show is what GRRM wants us to believe.
I don’t think Vaghar’s age matters here she was angry she has a bond with Aemond so she hates Luke and when she was attacked she reacted like a dragon and Arrax being bound to Luc could feel his fear and it got out of control
Every other normal Hot D watcher when they see enormous Vhagar at storms end… “Oh shit Aemond is already here?!” Them 15 minutes later- “who’s dragon is that? It looks huge”
Yeah lol they have a hard time reading situations and figuring things out I think they have a difficult time listening and following the story sometime
@@jmoa5758 yup they thought stoms in was the vale then they didnt even recognize vhagar and wondered why she was so big when arrax was still a baby dragon
I've tried watching these reactions but these three are complete airheads. They never know what's going on, they've been mispronouncing Rhaenyra's name for the entire season, they talk and talk constantly, missing important scenes in the show. All these have is their looks, nothing more.
How many comments do we have to leave for y’all to understand that u cannot steal a fucking dragon, Vhagar chose Aemond , you don’t inherit dragons from your parents.
"I want you to put out your eye, as payment for mine. One will serve. I would not blind you. I plan to make a gift of it to my mother."―Aemond Aemond One-Eye seems like the new character on the show you ladies will love to hate. And I’m all for it. I love when a character can bring out such a reaction. And Sam and Morgan are both right regarding him and Lucerys.
Part of the reason why Rhaenys doesn't burn the whole Green faction in the Dragonpit is because of the taboo against kinslaying. Killing someone you're related to is one of the absolute worst things you can do in this universe. Its why reason why Viserys was all "Daemon? Murder me? What kind of grass you smoking?" Aside from starting the war, Aemond knows that killing Luke was some seriously bad juju. The Blacks have more dragons, but their dragons are younger, smaller and less powerful. Daemon was checking in with Vermithor, the mount of the Old King Jaehaerys, to see if he'd be amenable to accepting a new rider, or whether he'd gone completely feral in the previous 30 years. Vhagar is the oldest and largest living dragon. Dragons never stop growing provided they're given light and space. The bond between dragon and rider is special. Dragons aren't horses. Some dragons never submit to any rider, some are 1 and done. Aemond is Vhagar's 4th rider. Each rider can only tame 1 dragon at a time and each dragon will only submit to 1 rider at a time. Viserys never tamed another dragon after Balerion's death. Vhagar is approaching Balerion's size and age at this point. Balerion died at about 200 years old. Vhagar is about 185 or so. Dragons have also been known to take on some of their rider's personality traits. Imagine Vhagar as a very old, bad-tempered, trigger-happy Vietnam War veteran and Arrax shooting a BB gun at her house. Vhagar just went nuts.
The Lord Commander wasn’t killed. You’re getting the bald white guys confused. It was the other bald guy that was focused more in the episode, who was loyal to Rhaenyra but bent the knee in front of Otto after Otto had the other loyalists taken away. Then he tried to escape and Larys stopped him at the gates and delivered him to Otto. Otto then asked him where he was going and said for them to take him away to the Kings Justice, which is the executioner. This guy was also in episode 6 and created Rhaenyra after her pregnancy when she was walking with Lanor to see the queen. And then he was in episode 7 as the only guy who greeted Rhaenyra and Daemon when they came back to Kings Landing to deal with Lucerys claim to Driftmark.
@@TheKillaShow or Aemond reminded her of Visenya (her original rider) and respected his fearlessness… he was worthy or “the depressed dragon” would’ve killed him.
When people say he stole the dragon, what they are saying is "he stole the opportunity to claim the dragon" which is totally true. Stop being pedantic.
*Daemon murders his first wife by smashing head with a rock* ... *Daemon chokes his third wife* "This is the first time we see Daemon hurting his family"
Let's see if we can get the names down for season 2 hahaha. Rhaenyra = Ray-near-ra (three syllables, no S) - Viserys' heir Rhaenys = Ray-nees (two syllables, has an S) - The Queen Who Never Was Rhaena = Ray-nah (two syllables, no S) - Daemon's daughter by Laena, the one without a dragon Rhea Royce = Ree-ah (two syllables, no S, starts with Ree and not Ray) - Daemon's late first wife Laena and Laenor were Corlys' children. Erryk (team Rhaenyra) and Arryk (team Alicent) are the Kingsguard twins. Aegon the Conqueror / Aegon I = the first king of Westeros 100 years before this show. Aegon the Elder / Aegon II = Alicent's eldest son Aegon the Younger = Rhaenyra's youngest son Aerys II = the Mad King from Game of Thrones (not to be confused with the Aegons!) Tywin = daddy Lannister from Game of Thrones Tyland = Lannister who is master of ships on Viserys' council (not to be confused with his twin brother, Jason Lannister!) King Viserys's dad = Baelon King Viserys's deceased son = Baelon It's very clear... okay it's not at all, it's pretty confusing! I'm kind of joking around, but the two you mix up the most are the first two :)
Vhagar (Aemond's dragon) is the oldest and biggest dragon alive, she belonged to one of his sisters/wives. That is why it was such a big deal when Aemond bonded Vhagar.
The later it gets into the season, the more I see some actual wisdom in Viserys and the threads of actual control he had over things going completely to shit, even just passively. As soon as he's gone, you see the consequences of people who failed to see the wisdom/caution he had about things like the dragons and how the house basically starts to consume itself within a day of his death being known to anyone.
@@giu7238 in reality they contol tho there is 3 person can not control very well doesnt mean all of them like this in fact in the books even Aemond and Lucerys can control too they never lost control only Dany have struggles
Yeah... kinda. I guess the dragon designs fell short of being distinguishable to them. BTW girls, the third, Red dragon leaving Dragonstone was the same Red dragon screaming last episode. I think you should just keep it simple: Giant dragon, Baby dragon, Red, Gold, Silver, Green and Snake dragon.
Vaghar (aemond dragon) is the biggest and oldest of the dragons, she is basically an old lady who has seen the fall of Valyria and the conquest of Westeros, so when the younger immature dragon attacked her, she just took over
@@Piezzu It was but the fall of Valyria happened 130 before the conquest. Vhagar was born like 70+ years after the Fall and 50+ years before the conquest.
@@Piezzu It was, but they brought five dragons to Dragonstone, and four of them died before the conquest (the fifth was Balerion). Vhagar and Meraxes were born in Dragonstone, presumably out of eggs from one of the four other dragons.
Viserys wasn't talking about his son Aegon at all when he last spoke to Allicent (Name spelling will be peek questionable on my part lol) He was delusional on his deathbed & believed he was talking to Rhaenerya. Y'all didn't put it in the ep 8 reaction but when he was talking to Rhae alone he called her his ONLY child. Not most beloved, not best, but ONLY child. Meaning Aegon/Aemond/Helaena were nothing to him compared to Rhae. Now I believe he loved them too just rightly put Rhae on a wholely different level We all know visions in the GOT universe are hilariously vague & even more so when it comes to a random getting one instead of magic practitioner like the Red Women. King V was not a magic user & didn't even ride a dragon during his reign. I say that to say I think his vision was about Rhae's kids not his own. I feel like y'all misunderstood Otto at some point. There isn't much if any good in him. I think the last time he genuinely tried doing anything to prevent bloodshed was in ep 3 when he tried convincing Viserys to have Rhae marry her brother Aegon. If King V had agreed then Otto would've gotten pretty much everything he wanted. Aegon would be on or near the Throne as King Consort & the Hightower blood would be forever established in the Royal bloodline. Sure he might have tried nudging the King towards making Aegon the proper heir but I don't think he would've pushed it to bloodshed if V refused. I believe that was the last time Otto tried avoiding usurping Rhae. Everything he did since then was to further his goal of having Rhae removed from the line of heirs. I mean the things this man's done, forcing his young daughter to get with an older guy, he manipulated King V the whole time like: Convincing him not to go see Daemon in Ep 2 cause Otto knew they'd talk & squash beef, dropping the "I don't envy you" line to push him from marrying Laena, trying to get Allicent to convince him to not let Rhae be heir. There's even a seemingly subtle hint he may have had something to do with King V's father dying? Though idk. I mean there's pretty much no pure person on the Greens side except the daughter Haelena. Cole sucks ass. The twin who stayed only did so cause he swore an oath, not because he believed in Aegon. Every single one of those counselors who sided with usurping suck. Larys is a bad person. I mean it's easier to count the good people on their side than the bad. But on the blacks side? The actual good twin. Rhae herself, King V was basically a black, Daemon's kids, the Valaryons neither of which are evil in my opinion, Laenor is a spiritual Black since he always backed Rhae, Literally ALL of Rhae's kids, I mean it's the opposite as the greens since it's easier to count bad people on the Black's side. I know a LOT of people claim not to be on either side but i call BS, most of those people are just to scared of pissing off their audience. I normally route for the villains of the story but here, the Heroes are better. And they are the Blacks factually. And as to Daemon, he's the only one who can be considered bad, though I see him as gray. Do I wish he didn't choke Rhae? Obviously, but I don't think it's the sign of things to come. I'd be willing to bet all my life's money that we never see him lay a hand on her again. That was a very specific situation where he was taking anger against his brother who never truly supported him (Which he saw as further evidenced since he was never told about the prophesy, was never made Hand even after Lord Strong was killed which is trash, V should've offered the role to Daemon not brought Otto back.) & turning it on Rhae wrongly. She didn't hold it against him, he was consoling her in the end. They were holding hands, he put the crown on her head & bent the knee to her. He defended her children despite knowing they're bastards. Even made those 2 knights swear oaths to Jace as heir. Has shown no intension of trying to whistle his 2 children with Rhae into the Heir roles. He's shown consistently that he supports the Blacks & more so Rhae. It was a horrible thing that he choked her but I don't believe we'll see that sort of thing again. I could be wrong & will take all this back if so. But until then I stand by what I'm saying. He didn't do it as a power play since he's shown no want to overpower her in his actions & even during that scene she stands up to him immediately after the choke by confirming he was never told the truth & therefore wasn't truly the heir. And he didn't try lording any power over her. So I stand by he only did that cause he was wrongly projecting his anger towards his brother onto her. Oh man it'd be SO fucking hype if Daemon got 2 dragons. I don't remember him singing to Virm in the book at all. So that's new to the show. But unfortunately I think he's just trying to get Virm warmed up to having a rider again. Not trying to claim him himself. And to those who say "It's pointless having 2 dragons cause you can only ride 1 & won't be able to command the other" I call bullshit mother fucker. It's been shown CLEARLY that the dragons CAN for a FACT have a magically link to their riders. Syrax knew Rhae was in pain even while completely separated, Caraxes knew Daemon was hit with an arrow even though there's no way he naturally felt it, Caraxes has on 2 occasions shown up on queue when Daemon needed him without Daemon giving any specific commands. (Once in Ep 2 & against this episode when Daemon confronted the 2 Knights). I'm not going as far as to say Daemon could send mind codes to Virm while still riding Caraxes but I'm betting if he had total control over both of them the one he's not riding would still be able to feel what Daemon would or wouldn't want him to do. So for that reason I think it is possible Daemon could have 2 Dragons. I want it to happen, I pray that it does! But I don't think it will.
The (former) Commander of the Kingsguard isn't dead, I don't think. It was just some lord that aligns with Rhaenyra (and just also happens to be old, bearded, and bald 😂 ) who is the one who got hung in the previous episode.
And especially not with some bs "don't fight." Like, girl, what you're doing is literally sending your son out to get prepared for war where your enemies are doing the same exact thing
It's not Rhaenyra's fault, there's no way she would see this coming. Who in their right mind would dare hurt one of the queen sons? It was an accident, not even Aemond wanted this to happen, Vhegar lost her temper.
That were not Alicent’s words,that’s literally what Aegon II offered to Rhaynera so they could have peace. It was very generous and honest offer. And he will be very angry at Rhaynera because she turned it down
No those were vary obviously Ottos words played off as aegons , it's only generous when you ignore they userped the throne behind her back, killed multiple of her allies, and caused the death of her would be daughter , let's not mention blatenly suggesting her youngest sons be used as a political hostages played off as honors like let's not pretend to not know what there doing here .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 true, pretty sure otto also thought with enough support of the supposed Tullys, Tyrells, and Lannister, that other high lords would side with them to convince rhaeynra her cause of not worth the fight and take those terms, but underestimated many lords and overestimated the support of his Allies, and killing Luke her envoy just properly won her more lords
Maergary and Olenna from GoT were Tyrells, not hightowers. Hightowers were the dominant house who resided in Oldetown (which was where Sam went to become a maester). They're one of the oldest houses in Westeros, before the Targaryens and Kings Landing, Oldetown used to be the biggest City in westeros.
Rhaenyra lost her farther, lost her inheritance, was pushed into likely war with a side including her former friend, experienced a traumatic miscarriage, was strangled by the love of her life, and had her child ripped apart. All in the space of a day. Talk about stress! I haven’t read the books but you just KNOW shit is going to go off in S2
In the book it was a little more than a week. viserys dead body lied in his chamber like for week while Alicent prepared for the Coronation. Not even the Silent sisters was alloved to see his body to prepare it for the funeral. Viserys body rotted there for days. And Alicent was way older than Rhaenyra, they were never friends, Alicen was really hateful toward Rhaenyra, who was just a child. Even Laena is older than Rhaenyra in the book. She was like 9 years old, when Viserys married Alicent.
My brother... was a slave to his omens and portents. Anything to make his feckless reign appear to have purpose. Dreams didn't make us kings. Dragons did."-Daemon
Oh suddenly the wife murdering abuser who literally kills people for fun was out of character when he chokes Rhaenyra is impulsive decision lol. That's literally so true to his character he would do that. Doesn't matter if he cares for her or not, he is angry in that moment and he's taking out at her. The fact that his brother never considered him his heir pushes him into that moment too. And Daemon doesn't give a fuck about dreams. He believes in Targaryen true blooded supremacy. It's because of his brother he had that aggression.
Someone fr please explain to these simple minded chick's who rides what dragons and how many shown in this ep and names cause man they get confused everytime seeing a dragon ain't that hard to tell 😂
The reason why Vhagar is so large is because she's very old, about 170 years old by this stage. Arrax by comparison is only in his teens. Dragons keep growing as they age, so the older they get the bigger they get. Vhagar was born before the Targaryens conquered Westeros. She's the last of the 3 dragons used to complete the conquest. She's first generation. All of the other dragons in the show are younger. Vermithor (the big one that Daemon sang to), is generation 2 (he was King Jaeherys's dragon). Caraxes, (Daemon's dragon) is generation 3 and smaller again, although he's still one of the bigger ones in the story.
If you had paid attention they already stated that Vhagar is the biggest dragon of them all. Thats kind of why aemond and also Otto made a point of: loosing an eye for that dragon was so worth it. Its the most important weapon of war of them all. Its gonna decide.. A lot of things in the future, as the blacks really have to play around aemond being there or not. Vermithor is also big (the one in the cave with Daemon) but not as big as Vhagar. That dragon is like 180 years old, and was one of aegons dragons (or rather, his sisters) during the conquest.
Ppl love to blame the dragons for Luke’s death but it’s all on Aemond. You do not chase someone with a weapon of mass destruction. It’s insane and childish and it led to a unthinkable end for his own Nephew. There was no going back after that.
I am really glad I discovered these three, they haven't a clue what is happening 80% of the time. The one on the left is annoying as hell but despite this I think they are highly entertaining for all the wrong reasons.
No no on the intro each symbol represents each character and once they start over flowing over the symbol like after aemmas death and viserys their symbol over flows with blood but if they are still alive the blood just flows under their symbol
One possible danger of revealing that Laenor is still alive is that it makes Rhaenyra's marriage to Daemon void and therefore their children bastards under Westerosi law and customs. Maybe Corlys and Rhaenys won't care about that as they don't really about Jace, Luke and Joff, but telling anyone risks word getting out.
Hey so the Aegon that Vicerys was referring to was Aegon the Conqueror and it was Aegons dream that he keeps referring to. He thought Rhaenyra was at his bedside when he was dying, so it was by bad coincidence that it was Alicent and she took it to mean her Aegon
Literally no one is safe in a George RR Martin story. Though Luke getting chomped was more shocking for me, than Ned losing his head. Remember that in Dani's time, there is only three Targarians' left and no dragons. Maestor Amond of the Nightswatch, Dani, and John.
Viserys said it best early in the season to Rhaenyra. "The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion". At the end of the day dragons are beasts with their own instincts and will.
The Daemon put his hand on Rhaenyra was it because of the prophecy because viserys didn't tell him (this doesn't exist in the books the Writers vented in the series) I understand the fight we both have because they don't talk like that on the same page, make the daemon put his hand on Rhaenyra, I think that was over the top, it wasn't necessary and the moment the daemon lets go of rhaenyra, you can see in the eyes of the daemon and Rhaenyra that they are both suffering and Rhaenyra says she never told you that and she smirks because she's realizing that the viserys chose her as heir to the throne because viserys didn't tell the daemon and Rhaenyra thought viserys had told him because the daemon had 10 years as heir and Viserys and after those 10 years, viserys never told him so he keeps imagining in the daemon's head how my brother who i loved so much never trusted me right now the daemon must be very hurt because daemon always wanted to show his worth to viserys and he loves his brother the daemon and a person who he has a hot head, he is proud, but he also has feelings, but sometimes he ends up expressing it wrong, then the daemon loses another child because he already lost one, then he discovers that his brother died Then later he discovers that his brother never trusted him and that it hurts his heart and daemon is feeling all of this but he ends up putting everyone else these feelings in rhaenyra who is not to blame it's the moment he lets go she sees his eyes of sadness and before he leaves if you notice he looks down he looks at her belly Then he remembers the daughter they lost, Daemon didn't stay with Rhaenyra because he didn't want to make the same choice he made with Laena the daemon has truama in fact the daemon always had for those who don't know the daemon's mother died in childbirth so the daemon already has a trauma because he never wanted to have children, so the daemon didn't want to be with Rhaenyra so he wouldn't make the same choice there when Rhaenyra loses the child Rhaenyra Stays with the daughter since the daemon goes to the beach to suffer there that reminded me in the first episode of the throne scene there is a daemon and viserys is the daemon tells viserys that each person suffers in a different way, and it reminds me of the scene the two are suffering each alone but rhaenyra and daemon are grieving for their daughter unfortunately we didn't see much of the other side of the daemon this season because the writers and HBO preferred not to show in my opinion the most wronged is Matt Smith Mano he made several scenes of the daemon showing the sentimental side of the daemon him hugging his daughters is him on the beach grieving for the death of his daughter with Rhaenyra and he spends hours and hours on the floor grieving for visenya's death and we simply received in this episode just a quick scene of him grieving for his daughter in the book it says a lot that the daemon is a great father and that he loved his two Wives Laena and Rhaenyra unlike the series which showed very little and I think it's really sad because they're not showing the real daemon Of course he's hot headed and he's crazy but man he loves his family he would never hurt his family until the actor himself says that the daemon would give his life for Viserys is Rhaenyra and very sad what they are doing to this character. The Scene at the end was matt's idea he had an idea that who should break the news of luke's death should be the daemon there the writers and emma give up the idea there they did, if you notice it at the time of the scene when daemon enters in the room rhaenyra's attention goes all to the daemon because she knows that something has happened and on the way the daemon is approaching rhaenyra you notice that he puts a hand on his face indicating that he cried there when he got closer to rhaenyra he didn 't even be able to look us in her eyes I'm sorry for Rhaenyra, she lost her father and didn't even say goodbye to her father and didn't even go to the funeral, it's not even known if it was because she didn't attend Viserys' funeral and even more Rhaenyra lost two children Luke is Visenya, In the Book Rhaenyra She blames the greens for the death of her baby and if you think she's right because she lost the baby it was because of the greens, her own brother stole her throne is Alicent hid the death of Viserys , Rhaenyra is pregnant, we all know that one woman cannot take too much emotion or stress because it is dangerous for the baby and she got the news right away. She lost the throne, Losing her father was a lot of emotion and stress for Rhaenyra all because of the Greens, so yes, the Greens were to blame for her daughter's death, she would be the first daughter Rhaenyra would have with Daemon. 7:19 Daemon thinks Viserys was murdered because the greens made Aegon king and they did it all too quickly and locked everyone up in prison, not to mention Viserys is dead and all this is suspicious, so of course Daemon or anyone else is going to think that Viserys was murdered because the Greens hid Viserys' death and they quickly put Aegon on the throne, And when no one says anything to Rhaenyra that her father died then it's very suspicious so I understand Daemon's side he's upset and angry is that now he wants revenge that's what we can't forget that Daemon and Rhaenyra are in mourning but I also understand Rhaenyra's side of not wanting to go to war what she was doing is right a king has to keep peace and Rhaenyra I was trying several times to not go to war and not have blood, but now it's too late now it's war because of the greens is that Rhaenyra lost a lot and now she has to fight for her throne and for the lives of her children 9:20 what Rhaenyra said in that scene to me doesn't make sense she said that Daemon is crazy and that he's fighting his own war if you remember right in episode 7 Rhaenyra tells Daemon that she needs him and that she couldn't do this alone , so she's asking him for help, here comes this scene where Rhaenyra says Daemon is waging his own war for me It doesn't make sense, Daemon is protecting his family, he's doing what she asked him to do in episode 7, I think it was a Script Hole because it doesn't make sense in my opinion 15:27 This scene with Rhaenyra was very beautiful, you can see that it was very different from Aegon, the two scenes are different, the music in both scenes is very good, no one can deny that, in the scene with Aegon, no one gets on their knees for him, in the scene with Rhaenyra everyone they get on their knees because she is the true heir to the Iron Throne, and I also noticed the reference in episode 8 when the crown of viserys fell and it was Daemon who placed the crown on viserys and now it is Daemon putting the crown on his wife his Queen 18:59 It makes reference to Episode 2, the difference between the two scenes and that in Episode 2 Rhaenyra was on Otto's side, now in this scene Rhaenyra is on Daemon's side 21:04 This scene references Episode 1, when Rhaenyra rips off a piece of the Book and gives it to Alicent. My favorite characters from HOTD I have many more My favorite characters in First place is Second place is Rhaenyra is Daemon, What are your favorite characters? I hope you post your reaction to the second season of House of the Dragon
Fun fact helena Alicents daughter now queen has a beautiful she dragon called Dreamfyre and apparently she lays Danearys dragons eggs.. she’s a frilly dragon like a light blue version of Drogon
You can't blame Daemon for being a little upset...which led him to put his hands on her. She's completely ignoring his sound strategies and acting like her docile father. The Greens have all but openly declared war. Daemon's plans would quickly put an end to the Green's treachery and betrayal. Instead, Rhaenyra got a dose of reality real quick.
You can absolutely blame him for disrespecting her in public and hiring her. It is her right to consider terms and let them have the throne if she so wishes it. It’s not Daemon’s claim.
Going to kingslanding on dragonback wouldnt have went the way he thinks it would have. Almost all of the blacks dragons are young and wouldve been useless against Vhagar and dreamfyre. Even sunfyre and tessarion are bigger than most of the black dragons.
Vaeghar is a large dragon because shes old. Shes a war dragon around 150-170 years old. The older dragons are the bigger they become. Lucerys hatched his dragon from an egg so it’s just as old as he is. Aemond shouldn’t have taken a war dragon on a pursuit like that.
Vhagar is one of the three original dragons that invaded westeros, she was rode by one of Aegon's sister wives. She's old af and big af and she knows war.
They could watch the show 3 times in a row and they would still not know what is going on. They are dumb as a box of rocks.
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Aaand now you’ve seen pretty much the *second* most one sided dragon fight in the books. As for the most one sided, it is not a show spoiler as it happened way before “the dance of the dragons” (the events depicted in the show) but you can read about it in the book.
39:57 Why is Aemond terrible? Because Vhagar chose him and that little kid cut one of Aemond's eyeball? Aemond is supposed to just forgive and forget? And if you play the blame game, It goes back to Luke action leading up this moment lol
I don't get the weird defense of Aemond. Yeah, he was bullied for not having a dragon, that sucks, but he stole Rhaena's opportunity to claim her mother's dragon on the night of her mother's funeral, that also sucks, and he was a dick about it which provoked the fight in which he lost an eye. I mean, why can't he forgive and forget? How's that not more reasonable than threatening to poke out a kid's eye and then chasing him down with a dragon, only to be surprised when he loses control of the situation?
@@justsomeguywithnomustache6245 I _am_ arguing it was a dick move. That's my argument. It was a dick move. That Vhagar accepted him is irrelevant, it would still have been a dick move if Vhagar had fried him. I'm not arguing with Vhagar or whatever, I'm arguing Vhagar _could_ have accepted Rhaena as worthy, but we'll never know because Aemond stole that opportunity. Rhaena had the reasonable expectation that she would have the time to claim Vhagar after burying her mother, but Aemond did not pay her that courtesy. If he was really more worthy than Rhaena, why couldn't he have waited until after she failed to claim Vhagar? Besides, Aemond lives at King's Landing, with easy access to the Dragonpit and the unclaimed dragons there, so Vhagar was not his only opportunity to claim a dragon.
@@Fangtornlol you just sound bitter that Vhagar chose him cause Aemond was bold and seized the moment The real weird defense is people like you actually thinking that it was justified have 4 kids jump and beat up 1 kid and cut his eye because Vhagar chose him.
@@jmoa5758 Okay, and you sound like an Aemond simp, lacking both the objectivity and emotional intelligence to realize what he did can be both bold and also deeply insensitive and provocative. I can put myself in Aemond's shoes and frankly I would've done the same thing in claiming Vhagar, but I wouldn't pretend it wasn't a shitty thing to do to my cousin nor would I be a massive douche about it, and I can also put myself in Rhaena's shoes and realize why I'd be fucking mad enough to throw hands about it. No, the weird thing is you're justifying Aemond's actions as if he did nothing wrong, whereas I'm not justifying him losing an eye, except that he's not an innocent victim. He instigated that fight not just by claiming Vhagar but also by insulting and threatening them afterwards. This is show is all about ambiguity and moral complexity, with neither being wholly in the right or in the wrong, so it's baffling to me why anyone would take a character and by like "nah bruh, this guy did nothing wrong." There are very few characters in this show who have done nothing wrong, and Aemond isn't one of them.
This show makes women even more actual badass they don’t need to fight to win wars they use there brains and charm unlike hollywood just pandering to women this why everybody loves HOD
In the book, Daemon didn't kill his wife Rhea Royce. After falling from a horse. She lived for nine days and even insisted to leave her bed when she felt fine. So, Daemon might be cruel but he never killed Rhea.
The young woman on the left is quite annoying. I hope nobody including her finds that offensive, just my opinion. I am late to the party having just watched the finale yesterday. I am in the minority as I am team green, loved the sweet ending.
Lol. Yeah those who stole the crown, launched a coup and then usurped the throne are the lesser when everything that happens is started by them. You're a clown who doesn't understand how thinks work
If Aemond did not tease Lucerys then Lucerys would still be alive so Aemond just kick started the war and with his reaction you can see he clearly knows he just fucked up big time. Poor Rhaenyra lost so much in a matter of few days first her father, then her inheritance got stolen and then Lucerys her second oldest son died I feel her pain.
Rhaenyra seemed more hurt to hear that Alicent got Aegon on the throne than to hear that her dad died lmao anyways had Lucerys not slashed Aemond's eye open he'd still be alive - matter of fact had they not bullied him w that pig etc. he'd still be alive, let's follow the sequence of events
@@soniaiboyako4023 yes Aemond was bullied as a child yes but not so horrible, his brother Aegon also was also pranking him with the pig and in Episode 7 Aemond did attacked an girl I would also react like Lucerys did to defend an girl.
@@soniaiboyako4023 and also remember the realm was technically still in peace till Vhagar killed Lucerys. And Vhagar would not have killed Lucerys if Aemond just let Lucerys leave.
@@soniaiboyako4023 I would also be very shocked to hear that my inheritance was wrongfully taken away from me just after receiving word that my father died and matter a fact the greens did murder people to get Aegon crowned so 🙂.
@@WarNeverChanges9191 I did presume you would've wanted him to let himself get slapped around so i'm glad to see i was right about that too lmao "yes he was bullied but not so horrible" that's quite literally not for you to say. Lucerys was not defending the girls as Aemond was not hitting anyone, not even armed (he already dropped the rock) and blinded when that happened... sending on their ass people that charge you to attack you over and over is *not* assault btw, however rushing someone to attack them *is* assault and retaliating in the moment would be defending yourself. Let's maybe rewatch the scene beat by beat and actually look at the sequence of events (just a thought) Starting to get the feeling you're not really processing what's being said bc i didn't even say it was weird of her to be shocked by either, i said she was more shocked about hearing about the throne (which she did not want btw) than to hear about the death of her father
