She did awesome! Then of course the stupid police immediately doubted her story. They doubted that she would be able to handle a situation like that so well, and come out alive. They totally underestimated her like they almost always do in situations like that, to this day! That part really irked me.
Lisa crossed paths with the serial killer she would help to convict and put to death only because she was suicidal and was about to end her own life. He even ended up sparing her life knowing she would be the major reason he was caught; and it is insane to me. Almost being murdered gave her the will to live and help others. EWU videos are definitely worth the wait as they are so well done.
I think he lied about realizing that Lisa was around under a blindfold. He thought he was in control, he bought into her playing a different profile from the women he usually killed. He couldn't kill Lisa because he lacked the affect, the rage, but that kind of an emotional state makes your mind play tricks on you.
After she went home when he let her go she then had to get beaten and raped at gun point because her GRANDMAS BOYFRIEND accused her of cheating on him. This young woman went through absolute hell that most will never know in their whole lifetime let alone at such a young age and she STILL vowed to help people and got into law enforcement.
🥰 I survived a SA too n this is exactly what I thought when I was told I was being let go ✨ that life is sweet, and that I shall get revenge. And I did!
Yo go Lisa. She was ready to end her own life but then this shit happened and she big brained a serial killer into death row. That is a damn good story, may the others rest in peace.
I just rewatched Lisa's segment on I Survived. They left out that detail about the menstrual blood. That's clever as hell! I hate that she was put in that situation at all, but I'm impressed by her wits and composure in a time of crisis.
When I watch that that is the exact same thing I thought oh my gosh how lucky for her she was on her., see how forensics has moved even along so far as to that I had not heard of that one
Her "experience" that helped Lisa remain calm is just as awful as her abduction by this monster. Poor girl spent years being assaulted by her Grandma's boyfriend and being threatened with a gun. When she arrived back home after escaping from the serial killer she was in fact beaten by her Grandma's boyfriend and accused of "cheating on him" She's an incredibly strong person, I'm happy she is no longer in such a living hell.
Counting steps, leaving blood on purpose and remember everything you see on the road in a heated situation like this is INSANELY remarkable and outstanding. She's one of the most clever women I've heard about. I would have been completely useless in a situation like that. I have 0 surviver instinct :(
I once saw a story on American Justice where a young girl named Amy was invited to a bikers party. She made the mistake of getting mouthy and putting down a biker. Saving face is very importaint in their world and the guy told her to shut up, she didn't. He ended up killing her. This was in Florida. Her body was fed to aligataors. The man who finally told what happen on his death bed said," women are such natural victims. They have no sense of danger". Start paying attention to what is going on around you. Look beneath the surface of peoples actions. Look for the motivations and realize anyone, even a nerd or geek, by your standards can be pushed to far. Men are the driving force of humanity, and there pride runs deep. Don't engage in male bashing or disrespedting them to much. There is an old saying. If you humiliate a man too much you have to look over your shoulder the rest of your life. Good Luck
You should take an RAD self defense class. Cops dress in padded suits and teach you the fight tactics they were trained in. You actually try to hit them and knock them over, to practice certain skills. Of course, the goal is to get away, not catch them! I have a cop in my family who said those were same ground tactics (and others) he was taught. You can train your brain and body to respond. They would yell at you, jeer, and surround you, to try to throw you off guard, like an attacker does. I went to other self defense classes that did nothing. But a guy tried to date r*pe me since I took it, and he backed off so fast when I moved quickly into the fight stance. A lot of people want an easy target. (Yes, they reminded us to be sure someone is attacked or threatening you before you fight. He had already stated his intention and gotten violent).
@@robertjohnson6601 Yes! My mom has had a lot of trouble with boyfriends and even strangers. She has ADD and I don’t know if that’s part of it, but she doesn’t notice when someone is angry or agitated. She will argue and get defensive and indignant about minor things. I have ASD, and I’ve seen teachers use emotion “face cards” to teach things like that.
@@robertjohnson6601you sound like a sicko for thinking this is normal behavior and I can only hope that you don't kill anyone over something petty then blame her over it. Hope ur in jail now buddy 🙏
The stories of Lisa getting into law enforcement and Amanda Berry getting into journalism are great role models for people who go through so much at the hands of an evil person and to not let them take or ruin their life.
@@bodhiswayze1892 ...and myself, although I was not kidnapped. My own situation lasted about 8 years. I refused to let my circumstances dictate my outcome. I also chose forgiveness. Sing loudly, laugh often, love deeply, pray more.🦋
Exactly. So all the sob-stories about how murderers grew to be murderers because they were abused as children are ridiculous. Lots of people are abused, and not all of them become cruel torturers.
@@bodhiswayze1892 Jaycee Dugard. She was kept in a backyard for 18 years and gave birth to 2 girls while in captivity. Jaycee's captor, Philip Guerrido, was a convicted sex offender being monitored by parole agents. They saw Jaycee several times but never questioned who she was, or why she was there. A neighbor saw Jaycee and her girls in the backyard and called the cops, they spoke to Philip then left. It was 2 cops from Berkley that finally helped rescue her. There are a couple other cases of kidnap victims rescued who I think have immeasurable guts. They beat the odds and came out stronger for it. Never, ever give up, all things are possible.
@@neliaferreira9983 ummmm no. You do know that everyone is different and handles trauma differently right??just because one can do it doesn’t mean everyone can. Also, you can understand the how and why of things without it being an excuse and agreeing with their actions. I don’t know why everyone always uses this logic. It’s stupid for one but it’s also moot. You cannot compare how one persons brain handles extreme trauma to the next. Not to mention, not everyone has the means to get all the help and support that Amanda Barry got as well. With your logic, just because YOU didn’t get split personalities or schizophrenia from extreme sexual, mental, physical abuse while growing up, that means nobody can develop those mental illnesses and disorders. You’re not making any sense. You can’t pick and choose when you believe in mental illnesses or not. I’ll say this again for the people that are gonna reach and say that Im excusing their behavior or crimes or enabling people. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE WHY AND STILL BLAME THEM FOR THEIR ACTIONS!!
Tampa is serial killer central. I moved to Tampa briefly in 1984. I got into a fight with my cousin with whom I was living with. She kicked me out one night and I was alone walking down a road called Del Mabry. I was a young 18 year old woman lost walking down this thoroughfare terrified at night. I'm very lucky I didn't end up like one of these woman...I have goosebumps thinking about it.
It's a heartbreaking detail that Lisa had gone through trauma in the past and knew how to keep herself safe because of it. It's a good thing, but the way she learned is just absolutely gut wrenching. She's a total badass for doing what she did in order to make sure her killer was caught
Lisa talked about being abused by her grandmother's boyfriend for three years before this happened. Her attitude was basically "This is nothing new to me." She said that the terrible things that had already happened to her almost prepared her to survive when she was kidnapped. Just to be clear, she wasn't saying anything good about the abuse, just that it had galvanized her and she already had developed methods to compartmentalize and still being able to think rationally and figure out how to escape. Also, when she got home, the abusive grand-boyfriend beat her and accused her of lying about what happened for five hours until finally calling the police to report what she had gone through. I hope he got his, in the end.
These videos are really well done and extremely interesting. Tragic of course. The only problem is I’m driving my wife and daughters crazy. Every time they leave the house I’m asking "Do you have the mace I got you? Is your phone charged. Make sure you answer if I call"
I'm sure they know how much you care about them but it come across that it's driving them crazy. If my little girl was a teenager now I'd be telling her the same things, she is a long way from being a teenager but there will come a time when I will have to protect her from evil people and I'd rather die than watch her go through anything like what those poor women experienced.
I really liked how you presented this video with his statements about each girl along with their story. I understand why you did it (so many victims), and it worked really well. Never seen anything presenter like this before and it's definitely something id appreciate again - it helps with the empathy towards each girl 🥺❤️
This isn't a knock against the other girls and women that he abducted, but damn, Lisa managing to keep her wits about her that much while in such a horrible situation is amazing. I wish I had even half of her courage.
@@Gameboy-Unboxings That was partially my point. He didn't kill them immediately, but nobody could expect anyone to keep their cool and think the way that Lisa did under such circumstances. It's unfair and shameful to assume as such. Hence why I said it wasn't a knock on them.
You'll be amazed what you'll do when your life is on the line. Like one case where the women who were raped acted like they enjoyed it so he didn't kill them. But he killed the 8 women that were crying and yelling.
I think that some people are just able to keep their composure and wit about them when in stressful situations and some people are not. That's sadly the difference between living through something like this or not. He was a monstrous psychopath and she just happened to interact with him in just the right way. If not, she would not have survived either. I hope that her life has been fulfilling and happy.
If he had Klinefelter Syndrome (XXY), he is unlikely to have been able to father children. Not impossible, just unlikely. As such, his wife may have become pregnant through other means, and if Bobby found out, maybe this triggered his rampage.
This is a new case for me. I totally respect Lisa for stopping this killer through reaching out to the humanity in him. I have read that a lot of potential victims of murderers survive because they use that strategy. The fact that she became a LE officer is also admirable.
I understand and agree with the sentiment behind why you'd want to, but we have the statute of limitations for a very good reason. It is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to defend yourself against false allegations after a certain amount of time. Evidence you might have been able to get a hold of that proved you were somewhere else is long gone. The amount of time your bank or cell provider keeps records has passed and they've shredded them. Maybe you were at work at the time of the crime, but that company doesn't exist anymore. Maybe your father had taken you to a baseball game in another city when the crime occurred, but he passed away four years ago. (And with crimes that are not rape, murder, etc., there is a secondary purpose to the statute of limitations. If you robbed a bunch of gas stations as an addict in your 20s, but you get sober and never so much as sped the rest of your life, it's not necessarily justice to put you in jail to live out the last years of your life at age 80, _and_ knowing that you do have the hope of a normal life if you're willing to stop committing crimes gives a person an additional motivation to stop. Why not just keep doing it, if every day for the rest of your life could be the day you go to jail?)
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 of all the evidence is GONE by the time they charge you with the crime, you won’t get convicted. Charges are only brought years later if damning evidence finally surfaces. Furthermore, these days everything is digitized, it’s not like things get shredded And there’s no statute of limitations for robberies, is there?
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim 5 years. 6 years if it's a bank robbery. Federally the statute of limitations on average sits at 5 years. Little longer for taxes, immigration and violence. Except for murder, treason, war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity, most crimes have a statute of limitations. Those limitations can varry by state and crime as well.
Have you ever seen what life on death row is like? Most of these convicts wish for death decades before it is finally granted. I think it should be up to the family of the victim what happens, forgiveness or vengeance because they are the ones who have to grieve in different ways.
I think I've watched a movie based off Lisa's story and I remember thinking how bad ass her story was...every detail here was just as the movie. It was the bathroom scene and counting the stairs that jogged my memory. Lisa is such a bad ass and I'm so proud of her.... Thanks for sharing EWU you never disappoint👍.
I bet the boyfriend really hated himself for kicking her out, not that I'm saying it's his fault I know I would blame myself if something like that happens
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim dancing which is more than likely the exotic kind brings in a lot of money and losing that can anger a lazy male who depends on his girl to find his lifestyle.
Bro when I clicked this video I had no idea that this was about Lisa Mcvey.. I watched her movie and it is byfar my favorite movie. I know everything about it but I had basically forgotten about her abductor being a serial killer. I didn’t know the identity of any of the victims so when I first saw this I was kinda just like oh okay, my favorite crime storyteller posted. After I saw Lisa’s name everything fell into place. I feel so bad for all of the families of the victims and the victims themselves. Im so happy you posted about this case even though it happened so long ago. It says a lot about police today. Btw her movie is called “Believe me: The abduction of Lisa McVey” :)
I feel like the reason Lisa was determined to get as much information she can and try to survive even though she was going to kill herself was because it gave her purpose she found something that can occupy her mind and make a change and a mission that she probably hasn’t felt in a while . That tells you people who kill themselves really don’t want to but feel that’s the only option they have . Truly sad.
When i have attempted suicide. I never wanted to do it. I always reached out to people that i hoped cared enough. But i could never be specific i would just say short goodbye or letting them know how much i HAD appreciated them.
Most people who kill or try to kill themselves are broken inside. I do know one person that killed himself because henand his wife had an argument and he told her he was going to kill himself to hurt her. He told her that right before he pulled the trigger. He was a jerk.
Anyone else realizing the words ‘ than anyone could ever imagine ‘ is said in every EWU crime story video lol I truly prefer this channel over others because of how thorough it is and the commentators voice is perfect for such a genre
Hell yeah Lisa! You’re an absolute role model for your unbelievable strength. I’m so sorry you endured such torment at the hands of multiple monsters. I hope you’re living a wonderful life now. You deserve it beautiful❤
In other similar cases, when the victim is found naked & left purposely in an indecent or sexually suggestive position. It's the killer's attempting to humiliate (even after death) + show disdain towards woman. Prob feeling empowered afterwards with his sick sadistic mind. I hope the victim can rest RIP
My mom always told me if you ever get kidnapped to leave as much dna in the car as I could. She said to leave teeth imprints on any softer material in the car. It's sad to me as an adult that she had to drill that in my head because she was so worried something would happen to me. She was never a great mom but there is somethings she taught me that I will never let go of.
EWU pushing out the constant wonderful content! Keep up the fantastic work and thank you for the countless hours of entertainment you bring to all of us.
when this maniac said, I choked her so she would pass out & not suffer while I killed her ...is a seriously psychotic statement!! how does a human being become so damn distorted & evil?
explore with us never fails! love how much hard work and research goes into this. easy to hear without needing captions and always bringing in new stories never heard! love love love. what ever happened to the female narrator by the way? just curious!
@@marionfriedenthal7352 i think thats good too, im just saying i usually need captions for everything and the fact i dont need them is worth recognizing
At 30:00….he was never prosecuted because the statute of limitations had run out by the time he was caught…how does that work? He did it. He admitted it. But because the cops couldn’t catch him, he just gets away with it?
Pretty much. Certain crimes carry a statute of limitations- a time limit that the DA's office has to bring charges against the accused. It's different from state to state though I think all states have no statute of limitations on murder. But they were referring to him assaulting the women he met through classified ads at that time and for assault, including sexual assault, there is a statute of limitations. Some may have been met because the women didn't report it and they didn't know about those particular ones until Bobby Joe himself told them but I do know that some of those attacks were reported. However they didn't have enough evidence to figure out who he was and couldn't file charges. I assume, because of his record, that these assaults were sexual in nature. I'm not sure what the statute of limitations was in Florida back then but now it's like 4 years, though several laws have been passed to either extend the limit or do away with the limit altogether in certain circumstances (like in the occurrence that the victim is a minor or if a weapon is used or if the victim is abducted and sexually assaulted, as well as some other scenarios- the statute of limitations is lifted). For some things like battery, the statute may be around 3 years, I think.
Same thing happened with the Golden state killer. He was prosecuted for the murders, but the statute of limitations had passed on most of the sexual assaults he committed. Feels like BS for the surviving victims
Bobby had a TON of mommy issues, forced to sleep in the same bed as his mom while she would have sex with all sorts of men right next to him from a young age. I can see how/why he turned the way he did, doesn't excuse his behaviors, but I can see where all of this took a turn for the worst. Lisa is an absolute GOAT. Going through what she had and then being able to take control of the situation she was in and help get him arrested is just amazing. She didn't let down even with her grandma and her boyfriend not believing her and the boyfriend accusing her of cheating on him (like wtf). I'm so glad that Lisa turned her life around and went on to do great things, becoming an officer specializing with child abuse.
BJL was like a psychopathic killing machine, having murdered two more women in just six days following Lisa getting away. If he hadn't been stopped when he was, a lot more women could have been added to his list of murders. RIP to all the beautiful women he took away too soon, and thanks to brave Lisa McVey for stopping a predator.
Lisa is an absolute boss. My aunt was abducted by 2 men in the early 70s. I don't know how she kept it but she did. She was SA'd in the vehicle while still moving... She um.. Grabbed downstairs after and proceeded to spread every bit on the seats and lining of the car. She was allowed a cigarette and threw the butt on the floor. When they took her into the woods and did their... thing - she threw her bra behind a tree. I still believe she was lucky as she convinced them to not kill her because she was pregnant. They left her. Both were caught. I'm not sure what happened to them after prison
Okay, I got about 3/4s of the way through the story before posting. But now I've finished, my soul is screaming for Lisa. This is such an effed ship show My heart go out to those women and to Lisa for being the bamf she is!
@ianrichardspangler it actually scares me how aware she was. She did all of that to provide evidence and it turned out, one of my grandparents friend who worked for the county actually pulled up behind the vehicle she was being sa'd in and didn't see her but he still placed the car and that's why they found them so easy. My auntie is a queen!!
@ianrichardspangler She is! I seriously dont know how she managed to keep so cool. It did permanently effect her tho. My family found out later that a police officer had wanted to pull them over at a stop light for a regular check on out of state tags. He was good friends with my grandfather (aunties dad) and decided it wasn't worth it. She was being assaulted in the car during the stop light and this poor man never lived it down. Edit: she wasn't actually pregnant. She lied
The fact that a psychopath serial killer let Lisa go despite fully knowing that he’ll get caught because he “didn’t wanna hurt her” is so contradictory.
I find it interesting that if one looks into pretty much any serial killer, one will find that all of them have had a traumatic brain injury (or at least, medical records of head injury in the older ones) at some point in their lives, usually earlier in life.
I say that all the time! Sometimes I wonder if they can ever truly be born/made that way, or if there was always some type of injury in their lives. Possibly one no one even knew about, or even in utero lack of oxygen etc.
@@deadendqueen5886 At least in ones without some traumatic childhood. I personally think it's more of a, for a lack of a better word, personality quirk. A lot about a feeling of being out of control and finding control.
@@TheDJGrandPa I think it's down to a LOT of variables, abusive childhood, head injury, personality type, untreated mental health issues, etc. Fascinating from a psychological standpoint, yet still always horrendous and uncalled for etc.
The fact she was going to end her existence until this happened is shocking. Lisa deserves to live a very peaceful happy life until she is welcomed home to heaven ❤
Lisa was the youngest and so very very smart. By leaving clues and evidence behind if he was to murder her....also she was the only one who made him feel loved by saying she'd be his GF,asking him about his feelings about why he's doing this etc...he probably never felt that before hence why he's targeting women who's in the s*x work...not to mention how his mother embarrassed him by dressing provocative. This was very disturbing and it's so scary my goodness this evil world! Edited: Omg i forgot Lisa was also on her way to commit su*cide that night too for her to get kidnapped and realizing her life is worth fighting for. God has mysterious ways of helping people find their purpose. For her to now be in law enforcement after helping catch a serial killer is AWESOME!
When he said the scissors she used to protect herself was laying next to her body, it broke me. This is just another prime example of why every woman should carry. Whether you’re engaging in risky behavior or not.
You are being sexist and generalizing. Get over your victim attitude. Anyone can get hurt anyone can get attacked, woman attack men men attack woman. Nobody is ever safe. Want to live forever well you can’t. Stay in you house avoid traffic avoid dating and you will still die in a burglary or a house fire or you’ll get a heart attack and die alone. No reason to perpetrate fear. All **** must always carry **** for ***** because of ******. Fear mongering. So you want woman to illegally take a gun into a police station? What about church and school. Just because you are incapable of engaging fully into a thought. gosh
@@abcdefghilihgfedcba some drugged up or truly insane people are entirely unphased by pepper spray. If you can't/don't want to carry a weapon, your best bet is to learn how to defend yourself as dirty as possible, go for the eyes, nuts, nips, anything that's going to HURT and stop the attack so you can get a chance to get away. Other than that all you can do is pray it doesn't happen to you
Goes to show that people who are suicidal, aren’t really wanting to kill themselves but more the less the end the pain. if someone was really suicidal, they wouldn’t have cared if someone killed them or if they did it themselves, which is super sad either way.
Always the highest quality videos, EWU! Thank you! That interview was horrifying…his voice so cold and uncaring! And with the previous assaults, it makes you wonder if proper action had been taken earlier if these women would be alive today!😢
I watch these religiously and my bf finally asked why. I told him i was hoping to see something that sounded like my moms case. She was kidnapped as a child and out smarted the man. She cant remember his name but can remember the area he took her and what his house looks like. I hope someday I hear he was caught. I hope he didnt go on to hurt more little girls.
Funny when they said the doctor didn’t find any mental illness….. “except for a severe anti-social personality disorder” …. Use of the word “except for” supposed that severe anti-social personality disorder is common or not a big deal?
I have the greatest respect for prostitutes, just imagine the hell that would be released on innocent young girls if they were not on the frontline. I feel they risk their lives every day they are out taking a chance with these evil killers. I wonder how many ''God fearing men'' who are seen as the pillars of the community, use these poor girls to act out their very often warped and disgusting practises, saving their wives/girlfriends/innocent women from the humiliation.
Lisa such an incredible clever woman, her strength to not only survive but to go forward into the position of law inforcement to help other victims of these crimes is inspiring RIP to all those young women
Using her menstrual blood is ingenious. Everything else she did was very impressive. But the fact she was able to think about how her natural biology could be useful in a crime scene is just so smart. Granted she's very lucky because he did say he let go and was thinking about killing her. Also crazy to think about how all these girls that were killed were probably just on a troubled path and were easy victims. But the one who was ready to give up somehow survived. Just goes to show killing yourself may seem like a solution to your problems when it's on your terms. But when someone tries to take your life I think you rethink a lot of your problems.
Lisa is AMAZING! She is a School Resource Officer for the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office & School District. My husband is an SRO for them too. I want to meet her, shake her hand, give her a hug, & tell her how awesome she is. She's been in Law Enforcement for years. She speaks at schools and tells her story. She's a rockstar! The school she ended up at is absolutely lucky to have her. 🤘🏻💯💚💙
When people say “How could God let this happen to…?” We see what God did for Lisa despite the evil in her life. Her example will have saved countless others. Good can prevail in spite of evil in any of our lives.
My wife shares the same name as one of the victims and I live in WV. Kenova, where Bobby Long was born, is about 30min from my home and drive through it regularly. Creepy...
I was trying to read down through the list of things that apparently either his mother or medical records stated happen to him when he was a child. All the head injuries like falling down the stairs, falling off the table, falling down all the time, etc. Seems like a whole bunch of abuse documented back then that nobody paid attention. Claim that he was just falling down all the time and falling off random things. Yeah, looks like a ton of abuse to me
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The horrors in this channel kinda give me the creeps yet the way it is explained and re enacted is so well documented I can't help but coming back for more. Human nature seems to be a calamity.... I guess is better to be informed of this. Better be prepared.
This story reminds me of the case when my friend's little girl Somer was abducted, raped & murdered. I believe the little girl was about 9. I remember her little body was found in a garbage dump. If I remember correctly, the mom worked for the fire dept. Years after her daughter was murdered, this mom took possession of her daughter's killers home & had it burnt down. I'm not sure what happened to the killer, I assume he either got life or the death penalty. I actually saw this little girl walking by our house several times. Her name was Somer Thompson.
this one was very very interesting! WE NEED more of those kind, like actual voice recordings or videos! still very disturbed about the amount of victims.
Another top tier video!!! I have a great suggestion for a suspect that I guarantee your subs/viewers will enjoy. A perk - Not only has this interrogation not been done to death; it’s been discussed by only ONE obscure TC channel. Cant wait to see your breakdown! Interrogation of Eric Ellis re: Kim Allen.
Lisa had to do it! Police weren't doing anything about it!? They didn't even want to believe her story .....they didn't even want to do the partial job of investigation... WHICH IS their flipping JOB‼️🤬
