How Accurate are Dinosaur King's "WATER" Dinosaurs? 

"This isn't even my final form!" *gets shorter*

​@@glitchingeclipse9850Two months after get shorter *Developed Gills*

@@D_megapronz next thing you know, it becomes Spinofaarus

"Spinosaurus when it comes to accuracy" Others Spinosaurid barely changed in appearance since their discovery/description.

Spinosaurus is like the no.1 Dinosaur we need to see alive, just so we can see what the hell it truly looked like.

This video will be outdated in a month

Bro being outdated takes quite a longer time then just a month even for the longest spinosauridae

Erm spinosuarus

Spino is nearly as complicated as women

@@Intrusion498heyo didn’t expect to see you here dude

Man ! That a fact ! Already that there was a MANGA is something. Being very obscure part of the franchise. But that it was sooooo apart and different from what the rest of the franchise have established after.

Know what, good for irritator, that's pretty cool

I can only agree to this

Apart if me does wish we had like 2 more of them Like a paitnitzkisaurus that has a bunch of venom moves to reference the move card And at least ONE Ornithopod based secret

@@evodolka _Hadrosaurus_ would've been a good option given it was the first non-avian dinosaur from North America known from more than teeth & the first non-avian dinosaur to ever be mounted for public viewing.

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 could have been cool, if it was up to ME i would have had Iguanadon be secret instead of grass, but that's just me personally

Maybe also do Move Card dinos in that video. Would allow for it to be longer since there’s only 8 secret dinos

There are 5 theropod 1 sauropod and 2 bird hipped dinosaur

I want that too, replace _Titanosaurus indicus_ with _Brachiosaurus altithorax_ and recycle the color scheme, replace all three synonyms of _Centrosaurus_ with some other ceratopsians that are more basal (there's no _Protoceratops_ and that is a crime), and don't make _Leaellynasaura_ the ride dinosaur for Pete's sake, it's only the size of a cat.

Literally the only excuse for them besides not caring

It has to be. Part of me thinks they wanted to put them in the grass element, but realised it would be overcrowded, so they put them into water to bolster that roster.

Ironically, they were all still able to be completely submerged with waters, with water recovering their ridges (while still able to breath without problems), and to swim without much problems at the surface without drowing, remaining surprisingly enough light here. Basically like elephants are despite having zero adaptations for swimming in water. Crossing seas without islands hopping is even what did the ancestors of Alamosaurus, which were heavy giants, when they leave South America to North America which weren't connected physically yet. So on that aspect, sauropods from this received idea/outdated misconception from middle 1990 century, and Charles R. Knight painting aren't far from what they were in real life. Just it was an occasional thing, not a permanent behavior.

I think that IS the reason according to the wiki

@@evodolka Wiki can be wrong sometime, depend about how they are made and managed (and there can be even many for a same franchise) but it usually good, so ok I trust it. But still, that can really mislead people thinking they actually really were semi-aquatic.

Agreed. Brachio would probably be Water, like other Sauropods. While Coelophysis would either be Wind, Secret, or simply a move card.

Well, they had _Gojirasaurus_ , which is probably just _Coelophysis_ .

What about apatosaurus

@@diwashrizal4837 Apparently, he’s actually in the Secret element.

​@@diwashrizal4837 It's in the Secret Element, so you'll see it in the next video

Would work for Dinosaurs King to have a 100% accurate as of 2024 Spinosaurus unlike all non-documentaries production about Dinosaurs. As in the Anime and Games, the universe display as accurate as possible genera yet don't give a shit about the physic, low resilience to injuries or impacts and their skills and body movements limitations. Because despite being accurate physically, dinosaurs are still able to realize crazy and farfecht, even completely ridicule movesets or physical abilities they 100% sure never have or weren't able to do. Ultra frequently all are throwned in the air and falling highly into the ground from a middle to high height, yet survived without a single bone broken at impact and amplified with their own mass, are grap by others dinosaurs or grap themselves others dinosaurs and and the others dinosaurs made them spin on themselves (remember Spiny catching a sauropod neck which made him spinning in the air in one episode), or taking very heavy object above the ground too loud that could in normal time move... Etc.... Really breaking rules of physics to an obscene degree yet ridicule in a way so that it is actually good, even how stupid and low-intelligence it is. So yes, giving the franchise have established this aspect as a normal part of its universe, I can see every dinosaurs or prehistoric creature, including Spinosaurus, made entirely accurate and yet still being able to be even used in the franchise despite their appearance. While all others productions which aren't mean to be educatives are in the obligation to downgrade/lower on purposes the appearance of the dinosaurs they display, even only a little, to be able to use them. For example, Jurassic Park/World can't use a completely accurate physically Spinosaurus. It wouldn't live for 5 minutes before being easily killed without having did something special aside just existing by another carnivore or humans. And while it a little off topic, Disney Lion King 2019 remake display very good what happen when you have entirely accurate to reality animals in a productions mean first for entertaining. You just can't use them efficiently or use them at all. I think you will get my point here.

Maybe it comes from the whole "sauropods were too heavy to live on land" misconception? It was popular on some older paleoart.

@@rm2569that must be it

​@@rm2569Yep, must be something linked to that. That really the only explanations why they put Sauropods in the Water Element. However, even when Dinosaurs King as a franchise was made, this misconception/view of the group was already outdated and considered obsolete since quite a time. This outdated view they lived almost permanently in water like hippos came from the 1940-50's with paleoarts like Charles R. Knight. But already toward 1990's that wasn't really much accepted. Was that a true secret/hidden tribute to this ? We don't know as none question was made to the crew behind the franchise and it too late today for that. So we will never know.

I think it's meant to reference old depictions, were they were always near or in water

Who cares if the misconception was cleared up by then? Is just a small reference to that, no need to make things complicated wondering about it.

Dude, every 2000's dinosaurs productions made their Spinosaurus by just copy-pasting JP3 Spinosaurus (to a point that lazy plagiarism not hidden in some). Primeval and Monster Ressurected have the same bodyplan but just with some adds on it like spikes, or a second apart sail on the tail.

In the original Japanese version they called the dinosaur "Titanosaurus colberti", but in the English dub and the DS game it was called "Isisaurus".

It is called Isisaurus in the anime. At least in the English dub of the above comment is correct regarding the sub

I see the resemblance And my guess is that the move cards will get lumped in with secret types

No, the Fire video was last time, this is the Water video. (*JOKE*)

Think him being a bady is what lead to most of the losses in the show, think Tank had it FAR worse

@@FelipeAubert-vq7uc Huh, from what I could see, the model from the anime has the two crest situation going on like you said, but the arcade render and tcg just seem to have the exaggerated lacrimals on their own Weird

There's also Normal-type.

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 normal moves, yeah, but not any normal type dinosaurs

@@evodolka _Gallimimus_ is Normal-type, there's a handful of others as well.

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 by "normal" do you mean like the move card guys? like the cryolophosaurus that heals you and the pawpawsaurus that takes a hit for you?

There also in this episode an unknown 2D dinosaur which appear at the very end, it's identity left unknown. It basically the very trope "the Monster was real!" but here it must be another dinosaur from a card which have spawn at an unknown time. Only the gang alpha will be aware of it's existence and the dinosaur, a sauropod, will remain in the wild at the 21 century forever. We do not known what species it was nor its ultimate fate.

Go watch those, QUICKLY

Three genera that never showed up despite being relatively famous in paleoart: _Brachiosaurus, Protoceratops,_ and _Deinocheirus_ .

They were sidelined in the anime too, so my guess is the creators just didn't like them. There were never any prosauropods, after all.

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 Well, that’s more because Spiny was the main Water Dino

Don't worry, it's just a part of its fossils which will be revealed as a new( and likely very close) animal, but ultimatly, Ampelosaurus will retain fossils whatever happen in its genus. Simple as it is.

That's correct, it's currently believed that only the opisthocoelicaudines specifically ( _Opisthocoelicaudia, Alamosaurus,_ and their closest relatives) lost all their hand claws. And in 2019 a paper came out supporting _Nemegtosaurus_ being distinct since it turned out that the synonymy hypothesis was largely based on a _Nemegtosaurus_ specimen being misassigned to _Opisthocoelicaudia_ .

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 have a link to that last sentence?

i think yes

Oh really? Do you have a source to hand as I'd be interested to read it if so!

@@HodgePodge7 I sadly do not have the paper, but I can direct you to where I remembered hearing it, also W video btw no other flaws to my knowledge, It was a paleo tuber, kinda, his channel is DinosandDragons and he reviews paleo figures. Usually. And in his PNSO Suchomimus review he goes on about it. If this doesn’t work probably try the most recent papers referenced on Wikipedia or use BING which is oddly helpful for finding scientific papers in my experience

In like 2-3 weeks

Ceratopsia hasn't been renamed despite the dubiousness of _Ceratops montanus_ , nor has Troodontidae despite the dubiousness of _Troodon formosus_ . Families and orders especially don't have to have type genera that bear their name, Titanosauria will keep its name despite _Titanosaurus indicus_ being a nomen dubium. And for the record, science will adapt if paleontologists for whatever reason decide to rename Titanosauria (which is unlikely anyway; _Tyrannosaurus_ kept its name despite technically being a junior synonym due to its popularity). People will learn to cope.

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 They will have only if they found out the targeted genera in question are definitively and proved to be invalid, but that will never happen because that just impossible to prove in the case of these three. Aside, I wasn't aware that T-rex was in the same situation than Dimetrodon which the true name is Bathygnatus. Obviousely, Ceratops, Troodon and Titanosaurus are animals which as animals of a given species have indeed existed (the fact that we found and recorded their bones ate definite proofs of that), but now it is just up to see if they were either indeed their own apart genera or just specimens from another and already named before genera we know. But even if we found out to be part of another already named before them, it's very unlikely that scientists made them invalid, at least for some, as some of them are also very popular and used animals in both scientific litterature and by the public. Chances are high they also received T-rex and Dimetrodon's exceptionnal treatement of favor.

Likely for the move card dinosaurs video.