How Big Tech use Right to Repair against you 

@@Merlin0216 apple is a rip off PC maker from day one will stick to widows and others OS with all it's foilables

Apple consumerisms went downhill ever since they introduced apple watches.

@@henrrypoop7570 never owned apple device. Never. Will

@@henrrypoop7570 the Apple Watch is actually really good

I hope the new EU bill will learn from the mistakes pointed out here. But it will most probably again mean that the rules will only apply in the EU, as we have seen on Apple vs. the DMA.

Sure, I can agree, but they should also talk about WHY companies like Apple have restrictions. Is it to protect the consumer? I have no idea, since this RU-vidr BARELY talked about that. Just a few seconds near the end, @13:50, which he then dismisses as invalid arguments. Is there anyone on the Internet who explains BOTH sides of the arguments fairly?

@@TheNameOfJesus me when im in a self-sabotaging contest and my opponent is you (there are many people and organizations who have made thorough arguments on why apple and these companies lobbying against repair while spouting some greenwashing bs is just that, BS). gotta love people who go "why not both sides", there are some things where one side is just pure corporate greed while the other is the rights of us as people. If you're really interested in learning you can find MANY resources online but if your goal is to just "look" rational by being a fence-sitter, all you're doing is being a corporate bootlicker and i dont mean this in any harmful way. please reconsider your "enlightened centrist" position

You gonna see 2011.....iMac laptops still in service with a dearth of parts grap those busted parts machines. Now before it's tooo late

Protecting the consumers? You're high on that Apple kool aid, arent you?😂

@@M16-bf4ku That's a nice joke, since we all know Apple's privacy and encryption mechanisms are far ahead of Android and anyone else I can think of.

And thats why you can only rely on opensource. Other crap can go away anytime and better not get used to using it, especially anything browser based...

Well said!

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I fully agree with you, however your argument can easily be loopholed once we start talking about embedded firmware Technically it’s software, and it’s also intellectual property, yet there’s no way in heck the hardware could run without said firmware

Which would probably be another Apple product

@@zythr9999 That’s exactly right! My new iPhone 13 was purchased because none of my banking apps would work on my old iPhone 6S and it’s outdated OS! So although I was forced to upgrade I did NOT go for their newest model and like the 6S I’ll hold on to this 13 for as long as possible.

@@ja5467 Still using my iPhone 6S. I'm too chicken to use banking apps. Oddly enough...I find myself faced with this: my iPhone 6S is too old to update the WatchOS on my Series Apple Watch! I guess I'm stuck at WatchOS 8 until I buy a newer iPhone that can bring my Series 4 to its final WatchOS 10 version update. Thank heaven, the watch can't be upgraded to WatchOS 11; I'd hate to have to buy ANOTHER phone to make that switch. No more silly "smart" watches for me....

It doesn’t force you to do anything, a battery replacement is covered under warranty with AppleCare after it hits below 80% battery health, and it’s a free replacement.

@@ja5467 Thank you. Good for you!! It's smart from a business standpoint, the way Apple has their products set that after only a short time, owners feel the need to upgrade. You may still get some money for your 6S if you put it on eBay.

I really hope that future devices won't be "upgrade-friendly", but rather as thin and tightly integrated as possible. I'm fine with removing two screws and glueing the screen once in five years, if that makes my device feel nicer in hand during these five years of usage.

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Notice Luke is never invited to interview Apple execs like iJustine and MKBHD etc? Says it all who the corp sell outs are.

@@jonathunky Is this sarcasm?

There are many shills on RU-vid.

They also put such strict environmental policies in place that only those countries can compete in manufacturing costs by doing things the dirty way so basically they just moved the problem further away and pretended like they solved it when all they really did is lose jobs in the local area

You, we, us can help stop it by not buying products that are anti-repair, anti-consumer or otherwise have flaws about them. For instance, I learned that Samsung's flagships of today have virtual proximity sensors, not physical ones, which makes them problematic when taking or receiving calls, so if I can help it I won't be buying any Samsung flagships until they change to a physical sensor. It's maddening how many features are stripped away or swapped away from us and we just let it slide.

yeah but those headlight bulbs weren't stolen from another stupid Yaris...

Funny you do run the latest OSes. I just have all macs run Mojave, although for some apps I need to move to Catalina now, loosing 32 bit compatibility. They also run great on Windows 10 (Windows 11 tries to be MacOS Candy Crush too much, like Big Sur and newer). What also blows my mind: any new system with the latest MS Oficce 365, is buggy as hell, delivering crashes and file recoveries 5 times a day. My Snow Leopard mac with Office 2011 never crashes, and I seriously can't find any new functionality in the 365 apps I miss.

@@lovemadeinjapan Thanks for coming back to me here. Yes, my older Macs all work flawlessly with Sonoma, at least for what I do with them. Currently there is only my 2012 Mac Mini running Windows, in my case Windows 11 as it came with it pre-installed when I bought the machine secondhand on Ebay. And I also encountered the same experience with Microsoft Office. In fact, since not having to use MS for work reasons anymore I try not to use it, replacing it with the Apple programs (Pages, Numbers and Keynote). And I do like those better meanwhile.

The Mac mini is also a 2012 era design dating back to 2010, so it's at least easy to open to do the basics like replace the coin battery and clean the inside and the basics, tho yeah ofc tho ram and storage isn't upgradable/replacable tho.

And they are cheap.... My kids could choose: new recommended Dell Windows Laptop for highschool, or a 10 year old MB Pro running both MacOS and Windows. They chose the Mac. The difference: Brand new Dell laptop for schools, "rugged", 11" 1280x800 display, TN panel, 60% sRGB, 8GB, 128GB eMMC drive, 700€, after 2 years it does 3-5 hours on a charge (the barely make it to the big break). Most classmates have a broken rubber ring that should protect the case.... MacBook Pro 2013, 200€, 512GB SSD, 8GB RAM, Dualboot Win/Mac, 2560x1600 13" Retina with 100% sRGB coverage, 6-7 hours on a charge (the whole schoolday), totally dirty, but no dents, no cracks and going strong.

By destroying the black market of stolen parts by actually offering the parts at a competitive price This really isn’t a unique issue, you can apply the same exact logic to the auto industry

@@kquote0364 STEALING IS FREE! You can’t undercut black market stripped parts when you paid people to create, ship, advertise, and distribute those parts. Companies need to at least remain net neutral with what they sell. It doesn’t matter if they sell Face ID sensor for 50% of what it costs them, a thief can sell it for cheaper because they will always make profit.

easy, apple supplies parts with good prices then label those with "repair parts" within code system. now if this person that has two iphones of the same model then they have a option within settings app to link parts to your another phone by account unlocking. it will unlock the part for any part with that account. another solution. on a phone being sold, give a user a option to unlock all parts for anyone and everyone to use as second hand parts. if the parts was stolen phone it locks the parts to tbe worthless when added to another phone by adding a kernal panic if gets the "stolen phone" code when booting up.

@@kquote0364 terrible solution. Can't happen. Apple would only be selling at a loss because stealing is free and can/will always undercut retail. Apple still has to create, distribute, ship these over water or air (idk), and then somehow be aware of "the market" for stolen parts. Sunrise gave an actually solid solution; stolen phone parts remain locked while a sold phone (whether it's for parts or operational) can remotely be unlocked by a user by slightly bombarding the user with a notification to make a decision on locking or unlocking the parts.

This is only a thing because parts are inaccessible any other way so they must be extracted from broken phones. Activation locked phones are basically broken

Remember Jobs wanted it's products to be 'appliances', the same appliance that most can't fix up themselves and need to pay up a shit ton of cash to get someone fix(provided if they don't scam you for an unnecessary repair when it's a minor problem)

Lawmakers love selling the best interests of the public for shockingly little money. A new yacht makes it a lot easier to forget about your moral issues.

Wish he’d drop the background music though!

do you think that you are being funny by deliberately misspelling Louis Rossmann's name. I have to wonder about your intelligence, or lack there of.

Agree 💯

Yes should be able to change aspects of my physical self also .. I own myself right ?

Unfortunately in a large number of cases phones resold on eBay just are activation locked because they never removed their icloud account and just didn't know about it

A large majority of locked devices aren’t even lost, much rarer stolen ones The majority come from schools and enterprises that have long lost the unlock codes and there’s no economically feasible way to get in contact with whoever can unlock the device.

This argument makes sense until you realise that no other phone manufacturer locks their parts, yet we don't hear about gangs of phone thieves stealing phones for parts.

@@lbgstzockt8493 to be fair in the uk or London to be exact, theres been a major rise of phone snatching and some of these thieves disassemble phones so that the parts can be sold. It is a similar situation car carnivores in some areas of the uk where they will literally strip your car for for parts even seen some go missing too. And Porsches' too, their headlights get stolen for marijuana purposes

@@kquote0364 you sure? Because the *majority* of Apple sales are iPhones… schools don’t give those out. Maybe some businesses do, but you’d be able to turn a soccer field into a farm with two toothpicks and a tear drop before businesses become the “majority” of activation locked parts. Only reason why iPhones are rarely stolen by thieves with 2 braincells is because of IC lock, and even now people still steal! What do you think thieves will do when they realize that they finally CAN make money with stealing iPhones?

@@kquote0364 The ones that you mentioned are passcode locked, or icloud locked, and you are right, they are wasted if being locked, but those phones in lost mode (which has to be turned on by the owner after losing the phone) are fair cases that need to be locked.

Knowledge is power. A lot of newer growing adults don't care or don't understand how important it is to own your stuff and as long as they get to use it they don't care and to the crap hits the fan

Same as Samsung Same as Google As long as the manufacturers have any say in what happens to a device, the buyer is renting it, not owning it.

@@signumscaler sorry no, I do own my iPhone as I bought it outright. I do not own the software but I do own the hardware and Apple should not have any say in what I do with that hardware I own.

If buying isn’t owning then piracy isn’t stealing

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At the moment alot of repair shops are forced to use unofficial parts because they can't access the offical ones.. warrenty seems weird no other company *has* to give a warrenty (i mean that sounds like a good idea in general though) .. but yeah transparency on what exactly is being done with in the repair could only be a good thing

It could be solved easily, you login to your Apple account in a browser and mark your iPhone as stolen and they will block those parts based on serial ids, making stolen iPhones and parts unusable. Apple could add this feature, but they won't do it because they want money.

@@kanji.debian 100%. Good point

​@@kanji.debianisn't that already a feature? There's litterally a lost mode or whatever

… with proof of purchase, which makes buying phones that are iCloud locked (many of them) and preparing them for re-use impossible.

Apple needs to figure that one out, the problem is always going to be getting people to sign out of iCloud when selling or giving away your iPhone

Something someone suggested once was to have activation lock a like check in every few years like "hey is this still lost" or whatever. But it might honeslty just be more annoying than anything else

@@LiEnby yeah like apple sending an email or notification to the apple id that is tied to the activation locked device asking if it's lost. then the user can tap yes or no or respond to the email with yes or no. the yes answer would remove it from the server

Activation locked parts aren’t stolen. 99% of these machines were dumped to recyclers from institutions without bothering to log out. And now even their parts aren’t usable

This is mostly ignoring the fact though that parts are not avaliable officially. If they were thered probably be alot less incentive here

apple stores aren't even nearby where I live...

Theft for parts is a response to parts not being available though!

the problem is that all devices that were not reset before selling or recycling are locked, not just ones that are genuinely stolen or lost. the actual stolen and lost phones probably makes up less than 10% of all the activation locked devices.. maybe even less than 5%. also with mdm locks too. companies and people are negligent to remove any locks before recycling or selling them on, agreed its great to have parts pairing on the stolen and lost devices, but the system needs changing, there needs to be easier ways to unlock the genuine clean activation locked devices that were never reported as lost or stolen..

The problem here is people use this argument to support their stand because it is only *PARTLY* true, and this applies to *LOTS* of industries ... not just consumer electronics. Lets make motor vehicles as a perfect example (this equally applies to mining equipment, aeronautics (though to a lesser degree) and even medical equipment, but I'll stick to cars as that is something that nearly *EVERYONE* can relate to. If you buy a brand new Toyota Landcruiser ... in AUD it would be about say $100k. If you were to buy the vehicle as parts, it would cost in the region of $500-$800k. The reason for the great discrepancy is the manufacturer markup on their parts (typically it is in region of 400-500% ... no I am *NOT* making this up) - even if the manufacturer doesn't actually make that part themselves. Case in point ... the hall effect sensor on the drive drive on of said Landcruiser to make the speedometer work is actually made by Bosch. You can buy it from them from $35AUD. It is a "genuine" part. The same part ... when bought in a Toyota box is ... are you ready for this ... $650AUD. It is the *SAME* part ... but in a cardboard box with "TOYOTA GENUINE PARTS" sticker stuck on the outside ... that is a 1800% markup ... on a part that Toyota themselves DOES NOT MAKE. The reason that we have a market for "stolen parts" is twofold. 1. The manufacturers want to preserve their obscene markup on their parts. 2. They want to force obsolescence so that at some point you *HAVE* to buy new and they can do this by restricting the availability of parts. It costs a lot to keep inventory of parts (it really does) so they don't want to keep any significant amount of parts for any length of time that they can avoid, but the last thing that they want is for someone to "fill the niche" as it prevents them from exercising point #2. If parts *ARE* available at a reasonable cost (and believe me ... a 100% markup is "reasonable") then point #1 is moot as there is no point in spending the money on having to de-solder a part from an existing device, and then repackage it. It would actually be cheaper to buy the part "new" ... but the manufacturers don't want to allow this. So "NO" .. I have *ZERO* sympathy for the likes of Apple, Samsung, etc. They *created* the problem themselves and they want to cry poor when the general population gets jack of being bent over the barrel and getting the full pineapple ... crown and all. This is not a new problem, and not limited to just one industry. It happens the world over. The real root cause of the problem is greed. If the parts are available at a reasonable rate, then it dramatically drops the demand for stolen products "for parts" (it will never be zero but you can drive it to close to zero by making it economically nonviable). Those who continue to swallow and then regurgitate the various manufacturers military grade levels of bullshit to support their points are in my mind, at best either highly ignorant or at worst, oxygen thieves. /BGM

the problem is where's the data that phone thieves are out to steal your phone to sell parts, besides usually reasons are more gonna be like to actually use the phone or to access your account information (and don't get me started on how the latter often happens without theft like icloud leaks, without advanced data protection/end to end encryption enabled your shit is gonna not be that hard for people to get into, esp if ypu got shit passwords and other problems). Truth is most of these locked phones were owned by organizations that forgot to unlock them for sale, turning them into worthless ewaste. Also if third party parts existed there would be competition to easily discourage this anyways.

You find a reliable repair company like RRG. I had them replace my battery on my 2015 MBP a few years ago and last year my battery started to show some issues and he replaced it free.

The biggest issue with activation lock is it's on by default. If you login to icloud on your iPhone it's enabled if the device is ever reset you need the account password to get through ... This effectively means that alot of phones that aren't stolen at all end up useless because they just didn't bother to logout of icloud first before selling / recycling/ whatever.