How Are We Saved: Faith + Works? 

really ... do you think that elohim is evil? ... i don't ... i don't think that elohim told abraham to sacrificed his son ... because elohim does not tempt anyone to do evil ... killing is against the law of elohim and elohim does not change .... as for faith ... what do we do with these verses ... 1Cor 13:2 (ESV2011) And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. John 14:15 (ESV2011) “If you love me, you will keep my commandments. Rom 3:31 (ESV2011) Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law. Eccl 12:13 (ESV2011) The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. Deut 5:29 (ESV2011) Oh that they had such a heart as this always, to fear me and to keep all my commandments, that it might go well with them and with their descendants forever! Rev 14:12 (ESV2011) Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. grace through faith is given to the righteous ... the messiah came to turn the people away from sin into righteousness thru love and if you the messiah you keep his commandments and his commandment is the same commandments in the old testament ... if paul and the rest of the apostle keep the 10 commandments what make anyone think that they don't have to? ... Rom 2:13-15 (ESV2011) For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them Jas 1:22-25 (KJV) But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 1John 2:3-8 (KJV) And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. and again let me put this verse out there ... Rev 14:12 (KJV) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Romans 4:5: but to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly his faith is counted for righteousness. I cannot stand these self righteous wolves anymore, they are really trusting in their own righteousness, their own works, the way a person lives does not prove or disprove salvation, it is what they believe, lots of Christians who are actually saved, do not do any good works at all, in fact they might be still living like a lost person, avoid these hypocrites they will do nothing but lead you to hell, they are the people in Matthew 7:21-23: they will be standing there saying to the lord, but we repented of our sins, we did all these wonderful WORKS, absolutely disgusting these self righteous pig's.

Why doesn’t Jeff address the Churches of Christ?

Romans 3:20 KJV ✝️🙏 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:28 KJV ✝️🙏 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law! Romans 5:1 KJV ✝️🙏 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 4:5 KJV ✝️🙏 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Galatians 2:16 KJV ✝️🙏 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no man be justified! Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV ✝️🙏 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Romans 11:6 KJV ✝️🙏 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Galatians 2:21 KJV ✝️🙏 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Philippians 3:9 KJV ✝️🙏 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith. John 1:12 KJV ✝️🙏 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. John 5:24 KJV ✝️🙏 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Romans 4:1-25 ✝️🙏🦁🐑📖❤️🕊️⛪🩸

@@rafaelo2215 Learn tp divide the bible! Yes in the tribulation it will be faith and WORKS. Now- today you are under grace.

Yeah. Durbin is full of square circle theology.

When we go by the sound principle of allowing scripture to interpret scripture we find that it takes BOTH faith AND good works to get to Heaven.

@@georgepenton808 i would agree with you if you weren't wrong.

George Penton completely wrong. You must rightly divide scripture. No where does Paul teach this. Paul is the apostle to the body of Christ.

Julian Clarke the law was school master to teach us that we are incapable of keeping the law. You are mixing doctrines and causing confusion. You can't go to the old testament to prove how we are saved today as it was a mystery not revealed except to Paul. Satan didn't even know about this and he knew Gods word. That's why he wanted to kill Jesus he thought he succeeded. He didn't know that God plan was to complete every thing in Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is all you need to be saved.

ghahaha

You taught your mom that she doesn’t need to obey God’s commandments?

This guy is wrong brother. He has other good things but what he just taught is a works for Salvation.

elgriego331 because we believe we will do the greater works that Jesus mentioned in John 14:12.. It is no longer we who live but Christ lives in us Galatians 2:20

Faith without works is dead. The devil has faith (Luke 4:34) but no good works. The rich man in the Lazarus rich man parable had faith but no good works. Salvation is a process, not a one-time emotional event in a tent revival.

Love is one of the fruits of Justification.

Yes it does appear so. But if this troubles you as to whether you're not showing good works, all one needs to do is go to Jesus, as this preacher said. It doesn't help to try to work more, because then you're working and trusting your own righteousness. It must come from a change in heart based on understanding the gospel, that Jesus has already died for your sins and now you have a relationship with him and eternal life - from this belief in your heart, your receive the holy spirit - so seek more faith and a closer relationship with Jesus! That is how your heart changes based on grace through faith, not your on works. Justification is solely through faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ. The more you just go to Him in faith that he will respond and reward you, the more you pray and meditate on the word, then Jesus will manifest himself to you and change your heart through the holy spirit.

@@zackmac5917 amen ❤

​@zackmac5917 and what is the reward Zack? And is that reward a gift or an obligation?

Amen, also "faith comes by hearing, and hearing from G-d."

So, what's your point? We know that's a Bible verse, which is a man-made invention. What does it say before and after that? And what does it say in the rest of the Bible about obeying God?

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You are right. Jeff uses the word "faith" in a 2 for 1 manner - Grace through Faith - the emphasis James uses in his chapter. But I do think grace is an important emphasis for clarity.

You should understand grace and faith being mentioned in Ephesians 2:8,9 . "Grace" is the part of God or from Him and "faith" is the part of man or from his heart . So we can safely say "Salvation is by the grace of God , through the faith of man".

We are saved by grace in the sense that while we were still sinners Christ died for us, what then now that we are saved by grace shall we continue sinning? certainly not for we are a slave to whom we yield ourselves slaves to obey. We are saved through faith but faith isn't simply a mental construct, it's the process whereby we entrust our souls to Jesus while obeying his commandments. And His commandment is that we love one another, Paul says in Galatians 5: 6 "neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avail anything, but faith working through love. You ran well who hindered you from obeying the truth"

Nate Armendariz We are saved by grace but shall we continue sinning? So Mormons don't sin and now are perfect people? Mormon baptized boys don't look at women with lust?Baptized Mormons don't lie? You baptized Mormons continue to sin? Jesus said about people like you "prostitutes and tax collectors will enter the kingdom before you". Would LDS excommunicate a prostitute?

Shawn - I'm sorry I literally have no idea what you're trying to say here

I think it's also helpful to look at how works and belief are used interchangeably almost in scripture, to point out how faith is evidenced by works. Check out Hebrews 3:18-19 and the tail end of Romans 9, which sounds very similar to Hebrews but talks about something different.

Philip Buckley so I don’t have works but I say I have faith than I am not saved that’s what you believe so than it’s not real faith alone James teaches that faith without works is useless but it still saves according to Paul and Jesus according to the Bible James also talks about how to show people you have real faith god knows if you do or not that’s why the thief on the cross was saved without works

Alexander Albano the context of james is not salvation but fellowship with god and judgment from this life from god and the judgment seat of Christ “For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.” ‭‭James‬ ‭2:13‬ ‭ESV‬‬ The only judgment I know of for Christians is the judgment seat of Christ the judgment is based on how we lived our lives as Christians our works and we will receive it not receive eternal rewards “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:10‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:13-15‬ ‭ESV‬ Faith without works is dead it’s still faith just useless that’s what james is trying to say not that is not faith and that is doesn’t save it still saves “Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?” ‭‭James‬ ‭2:20‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2:16‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.” ‭‭John‬ ‭6:47‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.” ‭‭John‬ ‭10:28‬ ‭ESV‬‬ Faith alone once saved always saved is the good news

Alexander Albano 1 John 2:4 is a fellowship verse not a salvation verse faith alone is what saves like I have explained

You’re saved by faith? You sure about that?

Alexander Albano to keep His commandments. What does this mean to you? keep in this context always has and always will mean to hold close to one’s self. To guard and protect as a treasure.

Yes, you are!

@Julian Clarke it is by grace ye have been saved it is not of ur own it is not of ur world it is a gift of God not of works lest any man should boast

BUT HE NEEDS NO WORKS

@julianclarke8160 Saved by grace through faith+ nothing.

Yes one must do good works after being saved, otherwise you will be cut off like the tree that bore no fruit.

@julianclarke8160 good luck with that, you will never be able to, why do you think Jesus had to do it for us, you don't need Jesus because you can save your self, we will see how your self righteousness turns out for you.

@julianclarke8160 God's law was to prove to us we are sinners and cannot keep it and need a saviour, you are trusting in your self not in Christ you are on your way to hell, you need to repent and believe the gospel, you need to change your mind and trust in what Christ done alone not your law keeping.

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@julianclarke8160 I bet when I and all the true born again Christians disappear in the rapture, you stupid fools still will not wake up to yourselves, and realise you are hell bond because you trusted in yourselves instead of Christ, I bet you will all say to yourselves we didn't repent from our sins enough, we didn't follow the law properly we have to repent from our sins in sackcloth and Ashes, even though it will be obvious those who have tried to tell you all it is by faith alone in what Christ done alone nothing we do, even though we will be the ones that are raptured out of here and gone, you will all still trust in yourselves, talk about stupidity.

Take the context of Ephesians 2:8-9 that Protestants love---the very next verse, verse 10, speaks of doing good works.

@Julian Clarke Are the Commandments given by Jesus in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John the same as the commandments given to Moses by God?

@Julian Clarke So you keep faith and obedience in the Mosaic law?

@Julian Clarke ?? A question was ask I would like to her an answer with respect of course just want to learn😁

Julian Clarke So youre saying Jesus death on the cross wasnt enough to save us from all our sins? Can you explain why he died on the cross for only some of our sins? What was the purpose for him being on the cross if he only died for most of our sins?Thats Blasphemy

But the WORKS do not save you.

@@langleybeliever7789Literally nobody has argued that. You're fighting an imaginary argument you made up in your head

I was just commenting on the title of the video.

ITS out of Relationship ......🙏😃 The works we do is not reliant on our salvation ...that was paid in full on the Cross ✝️. The works we do now is out of Obedience through our Love relationship through our Savior. Other wise its is a dead work !⚰ Never Knew You !! 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty "WORKS" in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

@@peterjacobs7051 Your own verse you used debunked everything you said. Lawlessness is breaking God's law. Sin is transgression of the law. People who practice sin will not inherent the kingdom of God. God will not be kicked by people who claim to follow him but live like heathens. The marvelous works that verse is referring to is theie dead works that they think can save them. Hyper gracers who distort the gospel actually do believe they are saved by works. It's by dead works. Works are also evil deeds it's not just doing good. If you are saved you produce good works. Faith without works is dead. And before you start running to Paul to try to contradict every other Bible writer and Jesus himself I suggest you read what Peter has to say about free gracers who distort Paul's word in 2 Peter 3:16 and before you go and quote Ephesians 2: 8-9 I suggest you read verse 10. Free gracers always negate that verse who quoting Ephesians 2. Anyone who practices sin, Christ's sacrifice does not pertain to them if they don't repent. Free gracers seen to think the Christian life ends at justification. That is just the beginning. The Christian life is about sanctification. And before you bring up the thief on the cross. He is the exception to the rule. Not the rule. If he continued to live he would have lived in Christ and been truly born again. Free grace is a doctrine of devil's and literally nobody in the Christian church believed in that heresy until John Calvin created it and when John Calvin created it he believed in sanctification. He didn't just think you can live in lawlessness and still be saved

Beautiful

"6/28/06 From The Lord, Our God and Savior The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy For The Lord's Little Flock, and For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear Thus says The Lord: I have spoken, yet those of hardened hearts refuse to harken to My voice. I have written it with parchment and ink through My prophets, behold, I have etched My words in stone with My own finger,[1] yet who has received My message? Who has obeyed My Word, as it is written? I tell you the truth, only those fully converted in their innermost parts have accepted My message, and only those who truly love Me obey My Word. For they remain in My love and delight in My Commandments, knowing I AM WHO I AM. So then what of all these smoking firebrands who surround you, who do always rebel against Me in word and by deed? Hypocrites! Shall My children profess to know Me with their lips, and then go and sin before My face in that selfsame hour?! They do continually transgress; neither do they abide in the doctrine of The Messiah. Beloved ones, to abide in the doctrine of The Messiah is not mere proclamation or belief. To abide in His doctrine is to LIVE by His words, a shining example of righteousness, striving always to make your love perfect through obedience, that those close to you, even to the passerby, may see your good works and glorify your Father in Heaven. For it is written: One does not live on bread and water alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.[2] So then do not just give voice and preach, But ABIDE in the doctrine of The Messiah... By example shall you lead them... Says The Lord." www.thevolumesoftruth.com/Abide_in_the_Doctrine_of_The_Messiah

@@robertj5208 Jeff said> "...We are saved through faith alone. BUT saving faith is not alone it always has works..." What could be a more confusing statement than this one!

@@abjoseck9548 not confusing in the slightest. He simply is saying that Faith alone saves. Works WILL follow that true saving Faith. If you have no works…you should question the validity of that “faith”.

@@chaseman8665How much works?

Yes, Titus here is referring to water baptism. This is a reference to being saved through the sacrament of baptismal regeneration. Where we are cleansed of sins. Protestants miss this and don't understand that's what this passage is referring too. Because the works of righteousness are not redemptive because of the manner in which one is trying to be justified. Not because one cannot be justified under the law.

It is the Spirit of God that baptizes the believer into the body of Christ which is his church.

@lupelo8819 Yes its tied to water baptism. There are not two separate baptisms. Christians only believe in one baptism. The washing of sins through water.

Ephesians 2:8-9 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. However, there is something that the video isn't covering. If a person is living a life with living faith while simultaneously having a desired not to preach the gospel when the gospel is delivered to them, a person can have a problem with his salvation whereas before this may not have been the case. An example of this is when Paul says: 1 Corinthians 9: 16-17 16For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: *for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!* 17For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: *but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.* In other words, Paul could be genuine in his faith by giving to the poor, comforting the brokenhearted, adopting children, and so on, But preaching the gospel is an absolute requirement for him, and that he would be in trouble if he did not preach it. This would mean that it's possible to have active faith while at the same time having a fear or apprehension to do something else God has commanded, and that can cause a person to not be right standing. In other words, works do seem to be involved. I believe the most accurate interpretation is that when the Bible says that we are not saved by works, it's referring to the works/effort *of the flesh* which struggles to do what is right and also has a lower standard of what is right because it's based on its own feelings or understanding which is not adequate enough to meet God's standard, which therefore becomes filthy rags. However, complete death to the flesh (metaphorically/spiritually speaking) causes a person to live according to The Spirit, which by its very nature does the will of God. So a person is able to fulfill the will of God in a state of rest in the spirit rather than the struggle from the flesh, and because the spirit is the one empowering a person to live righteously, and is therefore not one's own works that he is boasting over, because it is God working through him. Therefore, God also gets the glory in the good deeds we do: Philippians 2:13 - For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Does this mean a person is not saved at the initial confession through exercising faith? Not necessarily. The Bible does say that those who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved, and also that with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. However, Jesus also says that they which are *in him* That do not bear good fruit or taken away, and that God purges those who barefoot to bring forth more fruit. This means after the initial confession where person is saved, is therefore expected of us as believers to grow into maturity and eventually produce it good fruit, but if we do not eventually produce good for it, then the believer is taken away. This means that works are indeed involved and required, but it seems to also mean that the context of "works" is different in the spirit than the effort of the flesh and could therefore add context to the scripture which says "Not by works so that no man would boast", because works that are by The Spirit are also gifts from God, and it is also grace.

Read the next verse.

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My brother God bless you, indeed you could not have known this on your own if not for the revelation of the spirit.

Nnamdi Okwuosa how could he not have known this on his own you can read his and use critical thinking

If true, justifying faith automatically produces good works, then how is it possible for a person to have a true, justifying faith and not have works? Such as in Romans 4:5: But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

I agree with you! Thank you!

Nnamdi Okwuosa lol nice way to accuracy compliment our brother in Christ with that scripture reference you made me giggle!! Yes, and he definitely nailed it didn't he!! 🤗

It is not saying you need to be a non-worker to gain it. It is saying that only one who did not gain by works has righteousness accounted. So the fact that Abraham had righteousness accounted (4;3) proves circumcision did not cause entry to justification (4;1-2, 9-10, 11-16).

Works and obedience are two different things, dont get them confused. Can you have faith without obeying the commandments of God? Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments; John 14:15. Obeying Gods commandments will produce works, no? Works, righteousness, Holiness are fruits of real saving faith. Just believing is not real faith, James 2:19 KJV 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. God Bless..👍

@@xostupidhairytic6077 Scripture please. Thank you...

@@xostupidhairytic6077 Is that the Holy Spirit talking or your flesh?

Eternally Secured “You will know them by their fruits” “Out of the tongue comes life and death”

What?

Liar

@@renegarcia8876 i wouldnt go so far as to say he’s a liar, but the speakers understating of grace and faith/works is way off He’s preaching a works gospel

@@johngodsey5327 read your bible completely. start to finish. start to finish. start to finish. Don't read verses.

@@renegarcia8876 read your bible completely. start to finish. start to finish. start to finish. Don't read verses.

That’s why it’s so important to read the Bible duh 😒

Faith without works equals death? Are you sure you went home and read your bible?

Yeshua is King 777 - please do not let Jeff Durbin confuse you even more. Everything that was said in this video is ANTI-Biblical. Seek elsewhere. I would listen to Adrian Rodgers instead. God bless.

Grace rejecting rascals. Any grace rejecting church is a cult.

@SippinSalsa ITS out of Relationship ......🙏😃 mr sipping salsa You works we do is not reliant on our salvation ...that was paid in full on the Cross ✝️. The works we do now is out of Obedience through our Love relationship through our Savior. Other wise its is a dead work !⚰ Never Knew You !! 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty "WORKS" in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

@mosstmaple Read carefully: 1 Corinthians 13:1-3 NASB If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, 👉but do not have love,👈 I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. [2] If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, 👉but do not have love,👈 I am nothing. [3] And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, 👉but do not have love,👈 it profits me nothing.

For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. Galations 5:6 Faith and works of love!

@@strugglingathome Jared, you will like this video: The Hearers and the Doers = The Sheep & The Goats ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HphRcVwl0Zk.html

Can help me understand please🙏 🙏 🙏 I sense he's speaking of two different things when he says that a church doesn't understand the gospel if they believe that good works accompany true faith but then goes on to quote ephesians 2:10 that God prepares us to walk in his good works he prepared beforehand. So what is he saying?

​@@knightofnights1693Paul meant that we are saved by the grace of God through faith which is not of ourselves but it is the very gift of God Ephesians 2:8-9 and in verse 10 he says that when Gods saves us by his grace he also appointed us to do good works ....meaning that the Good works don't save us but the works are a result of Gods grace

In Ephesians 2:8-9 it says: “For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; ⭐️NOT AS A RESULT OF WORKS⭐️, so that no one may boast.” Now, there are two ✌️kinds of works: Good Works 👍 ⭐️AND⭐️ 2. Bad Works👎 The phrase “not of works” is talking about a very specific kind of works, called “sin”. We know that because, as Paul explains…David wrote about “the same thing”-only David did not use the word “works”…instead he uses the word “sin”: (Romans 4:6-8) “6 David says the SAME THING when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness ⭐️APART FROM WORKS⭐️: 7 “Blessed are those whose 👉TRANSGRESSIONS are forgiven, whose SINS👈are covered. 8 Blessed is the one whose SIN👈the Lord will never count against them.” From this we can now understand that to be justified for one’s faith “apart from works” means strictly to be justified by faith ⭐️APART FROM SIN⭐️. That’s all that it means. It’s not talking about justification “by faith alone”. It’s talking about sin. “Sin” is a kind of “work” that you do. Notice that in Galatians it says: (Galatians 5:4) “You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have ⭐️FALLEN AWAY FROM GRACE⭐️.” Recall that in Genesis, Adam and Eve SINNED and then they fell from grace. The Galatians sought justification through “works of law” and they likewise, fell from grace. Ergo, a “work of law” or “justification by law” is A SIN. So WHY are these “works of Law” considered a sin? What is Paul going on about? Thankfully, it’s not that difficult to understand. Paul explains: (Romans 11:35) “Who has ever given to God, that God should repay them?” THAT ☝️ is the reason WHY it’s considered a sin. It is a sin because you can never 🗣FORCE God to give you something 🎁 . He’s not your slave . He’s not in debt. He doesn’t “owe” 🤌 you anything. The moment one tries to place God into debt with works-he immediately “falls from grace”. Therefore the one who “works”(aka: sins) will not be justified, while the one who has “faith”🙏WILL be justified. WHY🤔??? Because that other person WASN’T practicing sin-THAT’S “why”. That’s what Paul meant when he wrote the following passage👇: (Romans 4:4-5) “Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5But to the one who DOES NOT WORK🛠, but believes 🙏 in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness👈,” You see Abraham didn’t do that. Abraham did not seek to place God into debt with works. That would have been a sin and Abraham was a righteous man: (Romans 4:2) “For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.” Now there IS a way to be “justified by works” ⭐️IF⭐️ the works themselves are inspired by God: (Philippians 2:13) “for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.” That’s what makes them “truly good” works: (Ephesians 2:10) “For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus ⭐️TO DO GOOD WORKS⭐️, which God prepared in advance for us to do.” These kinds of works are “good 👍works” and they CAN justify you before God. That is what Paul is talking about down here 👇: (Romans 2:13) “for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be ⭐️justified⭐️;” Which is ALSO what James was referring to HERE👇: (James 2:24) “You see that a person is justified by works and ⭐️NOT BY FAITH ALONE⭐️.” These “good works” are the same one’s that justified Abraham: (James 2:21) “Was not Abraham our father JUSTIFIED BY WORKS when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar?” So as I said at the beginning, there are TWO ✌️ types of works being talked about here in scripture. Works of sin-which Abraham was not justified by(Romans 4:2), because he wasn’t trying to place God into debt with works. 2.Good works-which Abraham WAS justified by(James 2:21) because these were works God CAUSED Abraham to do(see Philippians 2:13). So there is no contradiction. 🙌 When we die, we shall stand before God’s throne(2 Cor.5:8) and be judged according to the deeds we have done in life: (Romans 2:6) “6who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS 👉DEEDS:” If we have cooperated fully with God’s plan then these “good works” will merit the “full inheritance” which is IRREFUTABLY a “reward”: (Colossians 3:24) “knowing that from the Lord you WILL receive the ⭐️REWARD OF THE INHERITANCE⭐️. It is the Lord Christ whom you serve.” And lest anyone think that by “reward” Paul means anything less then “eternal life” itself we shall conclude this thought with Paul’s remarks from Romans 2:7: (Romans 2:7) “7to those who by perseverance in DOING GOOD seek for glory and honor and immortality, ⭐️eternal life⭐️”. So that’s ☝️what the full inheritance of “eternal life” IS. It’s a reward. A reward for the “good deeds” you did AFTER you were spiritually regenerated(saved) and made a “sharer”(Colossians 1:2) of the inheritance. This does NOT MEAN that it’s no longer a gift 🎁-because ALL rewards from God are technically gifts. It is both. It’s a reward and it’s a gift. Gifts can be rewards and rewards can be gifts. Good works are not simply “evidence” of our salvation-they are an INTEGRAL part in God’s judgment regarding whether or not what you were “sharing in”while in life becomes your “full possession” unto life eternal. You are being JUSTIFIED by your good works. It’s NOT by faith alone. That ☝️ is the Catholic perspective on Paul. If anyone thinks they can run to Ephesians 2 in order to prop up the doctrine of Sola Fide they are sorely mistaken, since that passage is not talking about that. James 2:24 closes the door 🚪 on justification by faith alone. Let no one here delude themselves. That’s right-you cannot boast. If your “works” operating ⭐️outside⭐️ of divine grace could merit you eternal life, then you could boast, but they can’t do that. Only the “works” which God put in you to do can merit eternal life: (Philippians 2:13) “for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.” So you cannot boast. Which you ⭐️WOULD⭐️ have understood had you not “stopped reading”. You will never understand another person’s perspective if you STOP LISTENING TO THEM.

actually, i hope we do! sharing God’s Word w them w the scripture to back it up is saving faith in action. though we differ from LDS members, we are all still sinners at the end of the day. like the person who needs warmth n clothing in james 2, so does a member of the LDS church (or anyone else who hasn’t the true gospel of Christ). definitely not putting you out there 😂 but it’s important that we also love those who think n act differently from us. that’s God’s love extended through His children. love you, God bless! 🤎

@Julian Clarke www.faithalone.org www.lucasanswers.com www.simplybelief.com please check out these sites they explain the correct context of every single verse in the entire NT. If you believe in Jesus Christ alone for his free gift of eternal life you will be saved forever!

@Julian Clarke I didnt say scripture said to read theology, all I meant is that Free Grace Theology answers these difficult Bible verses you seem to be taking completely out of context. If you think you will be saved by keeping the law you will have a rude awakening on the day of judgement, unless of course you have at some point believed in Jesus Christ alone for his free GIFT of eternal life, you cant earn or work for a free gift. Ephesians says For it is by GRACE we have been saved through faith, not of WORKS, lest any man should boast. That verse wouldn't make any sense if you could earn your way to heaven by keeping Gods law. If you have ever believed in Christ alone for his free gift of eternal life in the past you are still saved right now, although you have strayed from grace, you may lose assurance of salvation but not salvation itself until you realize at the end of the day its grace through faith alone in Christ for eternal life! This issue is so important it has eternal consequences! Christ is still holding onto you because Christ said nobody can pluck them from his Father's hand, including yourself (believing false doctrine). You should talk to the Grace Evangelical Society if you are honest and have an open mind, they will explain it more to you, they have a LOT of material defending their position. You may risk losing eternal rewards though if you are teaching others false doctrine. Shawn Lazar wrote a book called Beyond Doubt how to be sure of your salvation. Bob Wilkin has several books including Confident in Christ, Secure and Sure, and the Grace New Testament Commentary that explains every single verse in the entire NT in its correct context. Lucas Kitchen has a book called Salvation and Discipleship is there a Difference? that explains salvation verses and discipleship verses eliminating the confusion. Confusion is of the devil, not of God! Jesus Christs blood is sufficient!

@Julian Clarke 1 John is about tests of fellowship not tests of eternal life, a LOT of people believe this unfortunately! Fellowship is about a close walk with Jesus Christ and a discipleship issue related to eternal rewards. The verse you quoted is not about testing our maintaining your eternal life. Keeping the commandments has nothing to do with gaining eternal life, but it has to do with fellowship with Christ. Without obedience to Gods commandments, no person can truthfully claim an intimate personal knowledge of the Father and the Son. This is a test to discipleship to Jesus, which in no way affects gaining eternal life, but affects eternal rewards. There are other problems with keeping the law in order to gain eternal life, how good does a person have to do keeping the law? You would have to keep the law perfectly, which no human being could do including you! You are making a monumental mistake eternally if you believe you will be able to gain entrance into heaven by keeping the law. God does want us to keep the law, but not in order to gain eternal life! Eternal life is gained the very moment a person believes in Jesus Christ alone for it! The tree of life is an eternal reward, so is entering in through the gates of the city. Again the Grace Evangelical Society explains all of this. This article might help faithalone.org/blog/why-dont-lordship-salvationists-who-pray-for-guidance-find-the-truth/ also faithalone.org/blog/is-lordship-salvation-a-saving-message/

Julian Clarke “This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:2-3, 10-11, 13-14, 19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬ www.bible.com/1/gal.3.2-3,10-11,13-14,19-20.kjv

@@julie198 verses like this are often taken out of context. Again, Free Grace Theology answers all of these difficult objections to faith in Christ alone for his free gift of eternal life. Adding good works as a requirement of salvation robs so many people of true assurance of salvation. It is not Biblical. Shawn Lazar, Lucas Kitchen, Bob Wilkin, Charles C. Bing etc. explain all of these types of issues. www.gracelife.org www.faithalone.org www.simplybelief.com www.lucasanswers.com Free Grace teachers clear up commonly misunderstood misinterpreted verses.

Earth Is Not A Ball Verbal confession of Christ, repentance, humbled himself to say "Lord, remember me." Not even asking to go, but rather simply asking to be remembered.

God loves you Titus 3:5 "he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit"

God loves you You speak from your mind not the bible. People believe in the bible not your mind. Your opinions do not debunk the bible but rather expose your uneducated mind.

the thief on the cross was saved under the old covenant not the new covenant. The new covenant began by the blood and death of Jesus Hebrews 8-9. Second you dont know if the theif was baptized or not sometime in his life.

He repented from sin and professed faith in Christ publicly

What's the basis of your statement?

Exactly, this is a Calvinist interpretation. I'd like to hear a non-Calvinist angle.

the works is our daily life, not something we do on the side to gain favor. It is how we treat others daily. There is no end to faith or works. It is our love and devotion to God.

thief on the cross

So how was Lot saved? There was no evidence for his faith but in Peter he’s seen as righteous ?

Once saved always saved is bs

Amen to him that WORKETH NOT. And if you disagree I feel sorry for you because there is no way you could WORK hard enough. I' m suprised you had time in your schedule of WORKING TO COMMENT. You better be out 365 days a year spreading the gospel , giving all your money to charity, adopt 10 or 20 children. Work at a food bank. Are you still Working ? The saved believer bears FRUIT but that is only from him that is in us. Once saved, always saved. Christ died for the ungodly. And your gonna say your a saint. The scripture says Jesus was numbered wuth the transgressors, are you still a saint. The man is never going to be sinless- see John. The sinless seed in the man is sinless. Amen.

Lets take a criminal on the left side of Jesus as an example, he did not do any works but why? Because he has no time to do any works. If he would let live, he would begin to produce the right fruit, he would stop stealing, doing other crimes, he would get a normal job and so on.

@Julian Clarke No wonder you are so confused, you pulled verses from Hebrews, literally written for the Jew in Tribulation, which is a faith and works salvation by not taking the mark and believing. You crammed Ezekiel in there and the Gospel of Christ was not even a thing at that time, you took every verse from just about every time period and tried to create a new salvation. If we were saved by works, then there would be ALMOST zero reason to witness to the Jews, but we should be COMPLETELY, you know why, they rejected the Son of God. Faith and works was during the days of Israel in the OT, and salvation is now given by grace as revealed to Paul, and after the rapture, it will be faith and works again. Leave the old testament verses out of Church Doctrine, it's not written TO you but FOR your learning.

@Julian Clarke If salvation is of works as it was in the Old testament, then what did Christ die to do? I will look forward to a clear answer for that.

@Julian Clarke And this is defeated by Ephesians 2:8-9 since one, you never explained it with all of this, in fact you left it out and two, If works are required to be saved, which means to earn it, then if you break one small part of the law, you break it all, and there would be in effect none saved by grace. Grace would not exist. If you add a drop of works to a gallon of grace, the grace becomes nullified. Your doctrine is messed up, your salvation is of yourself not of God. May you be accursed.

Yes, if you turn your faith to *depending* on Jesus for your salvation entirely, knowing that as long as you're in him you're saved, then you will lean your trust on him, not your works. That is how you end up receiving the grace of God and living in it, and you receive the holy spirit. It really is as simple as grace through faith alone, not of works. But that faith is a real faith truly dependent on Christ, and when you know he's saved you, what he's done, and the love he has for you, you in turn love him and he transforms your heart by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Yes, and its not a justification.

Holy smokes. This clip is terrible and people arent getting it. True faith Living faith Dead faith Non of these are in scripture There is faith And unbelief James is talking about justification before men Paul is talking about justification before God Horrible understanding of this and you can’t have it both ways. This is nothing but works salvation which is not the gospel

@@johngodsey5327 James is not talking to you though mate.

So is believing lol. Believing is a work lol

@@indo3052 not it is not. Believing is not a work If you subscribe that it is a work you will have a false gospel.2 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV - But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: If belief was a work you would need to work for your righteousness. But you don't...you reciev it as a gift....for free. But maybe you work for yours?

Jim Kraft , Can you explain why John the Baptist said this in ( Matthew 3: 1-2 In those days came John the Baptist , preaching in the wilderness of Judaea , And saying , Repent ye : for the kingdom of heaven is at hand ) ; and Jesus himself said in ( Mark 1:14-15 Now after that John was put in prison , Jesus came into Galilee , preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God , And saying , The time is fulfilled , and the kingdom of God is at hand : repent ye , and believe the gospel ) . Peter said that some of Paul writings are hard to be understood ; you are saved by grace through faith ( saved = forgiven or redeemed from sin ) , ( grace = the free gift , the blood of Christ ) , ( faith = Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing , and hearing by the word of God . You must repent of your sins , and start keeping the word of the Father , now through you new husband of faith ; Jesus Christ , as your saviour ( 1st John 1:5-7 ) ; then the blood of the free gift ( Jesus ) can clean you . Shalom !

Jesus had not gone to the cross yet. Repent, the Greek word metanoeo. Meta means change, and noeo means mind. It means to change your mind from trusting in what you do to save you, to trusting in what Jesus did to save you. Based on Ephesians 2:8-9 and Romans 6:23 I have a little thing to help you understand. If I give you a new car, but you have to make the payments, then it is no longer a free gift, and you have something to boast in because you made the payments. Salvation is a free gift from God because Jesus already made the payments for all our sin, and offers it to us as a free gift. We have nothing to boast in because we did nothing for it. If we did one thing for our salvation we would have something to boast in, and we could say Jesus died in vain because we saved our selves. For by grace ye are saved, Jesus already paid our sin debt in full, through Faith, When we believe it. And that not of yourselves, We did nothing for it, It is the GIFT of God NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. John 3:18 Believers can no longer be condemned. Most people are trusting in what they do to save themselves, and believe Jesus died in vain. True believers do not trust in themselves and what we do but trust in what Jesus did and gives it to us as a free gift, because no man can earn salvation. But Jesus paid the price so we would not have to go to hell to pay for our sin debt. He paid the whole price. And we paid 0. It is free. We can not boast in free.

John 3:16-18 Jesus own words. Matthew 7:15-23. Those that boast in their own works have never done the will of His Father in heaven and are told, depart from me I never knew you ye workers of iniquity. Those who have done the will of His Father in heaven are saved and have eternal life. What is the will of His Father? John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Gods word and He cannot lie. John 6:29. Jesus, answered, and said unto them, this is the work of God, that ye believe on the one He has sent. John 3:18 Believers are no longer condemned to hell. Jesus paid our sin debt in full at the cross and we are given eternal life. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, everyone, that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, that WHOSOEVER, believeth in Him, should not perish, but HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. Jesus said it, we believe it and that settles it. John 5:24. John 10:28-29. Jesus gives eternal life to them that believe on Him for the free gift of eternal life.

Faith is not a work. IT is faith apart from works. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on Me, HATH, (present tense) EVERLASTING LIFE. How long does everlasting life last? Forever. John 3:18 Believers are no longer condemned, but unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. John 1:12 But as many as received him to them gave He power to become the children of God, even to them that believe on His name. Jesus died to pay for the sins of the whole world so that anyone who would accept His one blood sacrifice for their sins would be saved. If good works could save us, then Jesus died in vain. Jesus died for sinners. We are all sinners. You are either one or the other. John 3:18. Believers are no longer condemned, but unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. God cannot lie. John 3:36. KJV. Unbelievers are under the wrath of God.

Paul preached the same gospel Jesus preached. First Corinthians 15:3-4. That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures. Paul added to that gospel by saying if anyone preaches any other gospel let him be accursed. And He said it twice so we would get it. Galatians 1:6-9. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Gods word. John 6:47. John 12:32. God calls all men to repent, change their mind and trust Jesus as the only way of salvation apart from any works. The thief on the cross believed Jesus was the Son of God and was saved the instant he believed on Him. Acts 16:31 Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy house. Nothing else can save sinners except what Jesus did plus nothing.

He's a backloading double talking fruit inspecting devil. Free grace is the only true gospel. Faith that works is just another cleverly repackaged version of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense. He backloads works into the gospel and attributes them to God.

Saved by faith. Works justifies our faith, and makes it perfect. Bible tells us faith is by grace However, if someone has faith, but then has no works, his faith is dead So faith must save us initially, however, as after we've been saved, our works must be present to perfect our faith, otherwise it's dead and going to hell. the same way we treat a body without a spirit is dead, the same way we treat faith and works. bible never says works saves us, but it says it's necessary to perfect our faith, which saves us. so yes faith n works, produces a faith that saves us

@@Timzy2Drip Faith that works is just another cleverly repackaged version of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense. Backloader.

The Mormon would say that the guy on the cross basically did works AFTER he died while he was waiting around in some kind of limbo thing. I might be oversimplifying, but that's the response I was given when I brought that up.

He confessed and repented.

Work has no importance in salvation

@@tayzk5929 if doing good things does not help us in salvation than all the teaching that the lord gave us to love one another , help the poor etc is meaningless. How do u respond to tat

@@livesoundz2576 It's not meaningless, because there are other things than salvation, like what happens to us on this earth and what rewards we will get in the afterlife which also is important

@@tayzk5929 and did you know that the reward mentioned is actually explained to be eternal life? Shocker your salvation is not just a free gift, it's also a reward. Because as a manner of fact all of God's rewards awards are also gifts.

@@dman7668 It's not mutually exclusive.

Loving God and keeping his commandments is our sole purpose in life and Calvinism claims Jesus obeyed the law for them. This is all about salvation, not just sanctification. Mathew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Jesus was saying if we do not love God and obey him we will not enter heaven. Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Jesus was asked what we must do to be saved and he said remember the commandments, remember God's law, remember the summation of God's law to love God and love your neighbor. But according to Calvin Jesus did this for us. That is the doctrine of faith alone, a false dead faith. So why did Calvin say this. Lawlessness. To justify a lifestyle of sin. God will not be mocked you reap what you sow.

Lol. What did yahusha say twice to have eternal life? Keep the commandments

Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?

God loves you JESUS SAID "That whosoever believeth should not perish, but have eternal life."(John 3:15)

John Trevett That is still Faith plus works... True faith=salvation is still faith plus works its just a less workaholic way of saying it

So I can kill peoples and still go to heaven just cause I believe?

Jack Mack Shows you haven't truly believed. It is a false faith.

Elizabeth Tey Mormons claim believers will be judged by their works? "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."(John 5:2) How can works be part of our salvation if we will not be judged?

shawn mcaraphy Not Mormon, but you have unfortunately twisted scripture. The Bible is clear that all will be judged, and even Christ Himself says in Matthew 16:27 "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man *according to his works*"

God loves you You think I wrote the bible? "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."(John 5:2) Who are you in disagreements with? Its not me because that is not me speaking. Who's words do those belong to? Then why do you say I am wrong? What you mean to say is that you believe Jesus is wrong for saying that. I did not have your problems.

Elizabeth Tey amen

Amen amen and what's that? Oh yeah, Amen

IKR, James always gets me. I guess it has to do with the intended audience, maybe. I don't know.

Justified in the Greek tense it is would be better translated *shown to be justified* it’s speaking of justification before men. It consistently speaks of show me your works, show me your faith. Abraham it clearly says he couldn’t be boast before God if it is due to works which faith plus works is still works.

James is talking about our works in relation to others, NOT to God.

That’s rights. Works alone can’t save us and faith alone is empty. I like looking John 15 where the branches that abide in the vine produce fruit. The production of our spiritual fruit is the result of our faith in Christ because apart from him we can do nothing. Faith comes first then by our faith we move into action.

James is not to us. Read the first verse. To the twelve tribes of Israel scattered abroad. Revelation 7. They will have to keep from taking the mark of the beast and persevere in the faith to be saved. It is not to us. We are saved by faith alone in Christ alone. Romans 11:6 it is all grace, not works. We can not take scripture out of context and add it to the church. We are in the dispensation of grace, the church age. We are not the old testament saints, or the tribulation saints. We are church, the body of Christ. Those saved by grace without works. False teachers who do not have the Holy Spirit in them can not discern scripture. The bible never contradicts it self. We are saved the minute we trust Jesus as our savior plus nothing. Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also AFTER ye believed, ye were sealed by that Holy Spirit of promise. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Spirit of God in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption Born again. Born of God when we believe. Given eternal life. John 3:18 we can not longer be condemned. First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

If it always produces works, than why does Romans 4 and James 2 talk of faith without works?

@@Terror1Void That's exactly right. Faith does not always produce works. That's why saving faith is working faith. Faith + Works.

Only Jesus saves you. The works you do, your faith (given to you by God), your whatever doesn’t save you. You can receive rewards for things you do but the things you do don’t save you. It’s all about Jesus and his righteousness,not yours at all. You can’t perfect the perfection of God’s work by your doings.

Jordy, if you understand this message and the gospel, run away from the Catholic Church. It teaches a false gospel and the complete opposite of what you are saying you understand. It’s a false church just like Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witness.

Hi Jordy - I hope you are well and in the Catholic Church. Though pastor Durbin is not Catholic, this is a good explanation of the Catholic belief. God Bless and welcome home to the Catholic Church.

@@seanburlile6616 This is FAR from what the Catholic church believes, not even close. The Catholic church is a man-glorifying heresy and almost every doctrines preached by Catholics are not biblical or go directly against what Jesus taught. There is no biblical justification for calling a fallible man "Holy Father. Or the purgatory ? Or confessing to other men who pretend they forgive your sins like they have the authority to do so. What about protecting p*dophiles ? Or changing the 2nd commandment because they love their idols so much ? Or bishops softening to the LGBT agenda while the Pope is inter-mingling with other faith leaders and doing interfaith masses as if Jesus never said he was the only way ? And what about these idiotic, repetitive prayers to Mary !? Jesus showed us to pray directly to our father in heaven and he told us not to use vain repetitions, but I guess the Catholic Church knows better than Jesus lol. Catholicism is from the Devil...just google the audience hall of the Vatican and look how they shaped it, you can't make this sh*t up...

Ask any Roman Catholic priest if he is saved?

Learn how to know which dispensation id being applied. A born again Christian TODAY is bone of bone, flesh of flesh of the LORD. This is how cults are formed.

And our works?, are the fruits we produce, yes?, not the literal sense of our money or crops, but the fruits of our faith, giving an enemy a drink of water?. Tithing of our fruits literally giving 1/10 th of ourselves?

The Bible Says Amen! And yes, hit the nail on the head... The problem with modern-day christianity, is they don't want to be OBEDIENT to Yah's Word.... Period.

But you are Church of Christ; a Campbellite right?

So we just ignore... “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭4:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Bible Says It is in the Bible sola fide as proven by this verse: Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, Not of works, lest any man should boast. Acts 16:31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And the catholic have removed the third commandment out of the Bible which says: thou shall not make any graven image and then they split another commandment in two so they still have 10 commandments.

That doesn't simplify anything, it still makes it look like you have to do the works for righteousness, and that is something no man can do. You are NOT EXPECTED to do works to be saved, the works must be the works of God through our faith in Him, you, nor I, nor anyone alive past, present or future can do the works of God without His grace, God will do the works in you and His work will come from you. Does this simplify it any brother/sister?

Yes we are, for rewards in heaven. But we are saved without works or we could give the glory to us. Salvation is a free gift from God. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. We are saved the minute we believe the gospel. If we add one thing we have to do other than believe, then it is by works and no one can be saved by works. Only by grace. The Thief on the cross. Faith alone. If you add works before salvation , at salvation, or after salvation, It makes no difference. Romans 11:6 if you add one work, it is no longer grace. Those who preach a false gospel of works salvation are accursed. Galatians 1:7-9. It is saying what Jesus did is not sufficient, and we have to do something to save ourselves. Matthew 7:21-23 those that add works to grace are preaching a false gospel and those who believe it are told, depart from me I never knew you. Because they never did the will of His Father. John 6:40. They trusted in what they did instead of what Jesus did for us. They were not saved.

jim kraft That's pretty much what I meant, that the works do not come of us but from us through faith in the Lord and His grace, not our own! My apologies if the answer was confusing, I meant not expected to do works to be saved, I'll edit the comment to reflect, thanks for spotting it :)

jim kraft ^^ Better?

I understand. I don't always get things right either. No apology necessary. I am just happy to know another bible believer who believes the bible and not what men say. The thing is, lots of people do good works, But that does not save anybody. People say you can tell a believer by how they live and what they do. No, you can not. A born again believer may be living in awful sin, First Corinthians 5:5, while a false professor may be living a very moral life. A born again believer, (Ephesians 1:13) may get out of the will of God, but never our relationship to Him. The born again believer in First Corinthians was sleeping with his fathers wife. He was about to lose his life, and his rewards in heaven, but he was still saved. IT is our soul/spirit that is born again and saved, not our flesh and our old nature. It is still very much with us. First John 1:8 IF we say we have no sin, we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us. We are all sinners to a degree and if Jesus had not died for us, no one would be saved.

EXACTLY TRUE MY BROTHER-PEACE AND LOVE FROM ALABAMA

G cabildo , what does it require to be forgiven from sin ? Remember , the wages of sin is death , so something must die , blood has to be shed : The blood of Jesus Christ save you through faith ( Ephesians 2:8 ) , and how do you have faith ? Answer , Romans 10:17 , " So then faith cometh by hearing , and hearing by the word of God " . You must start hearing and obeying the word of God before the blood of the mediator ( Jesus Christ ) can cover or clean you ( 1st John 1:5-7 ) with his grace ( blood -free gift ) . Disobeying the laws of God is what put you in sin ( 1st John 3:4 , " Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law : for sin is the transgression of the law " ) ; but it requires a sin sacrifice to cover or clean you , to get you from under the violation of the law of God . When James 2:10 said , " For whosoever shall keep the whole law , and yet offend in one point , he is guilty of all " ; He was not talking about the laws of God ; because if you keep all of the whole law of God , you will not be guilty of nothing ; you are walking in righteousness . The whole law that James is talking about , is the law through the mediator at Mount Sinai ( Moses ) ; which is called the law of Moses , law of animal sacrifice , law of works , circumcision of flesh for sin , schoolmaster , law of sin and death ; which could not get your sins forgiven of the heart/mind/spirit/conscience ; but kept God from killing your flesh/body , if you do all that is required going through this sin sacrifice law : If you fail to complete all that is required , and not in the timely manner in which it is required , you are guilty of all . Shalom !

@Julian Clarke lmao 🤣 Nobody can fulfill the Law Only Jesus did Salvation is a Gift not a reward If you’re working for your Salvation then you’re Disrespecting The one and only True God Jesus Christ Because he came as a man Flesh and Blood 🩸 And finished the WORK not you It’s never about you You are nobody Nothing Bible says nobody is Righteous not even ☝🏼 one

False , " works" based faith. If it is something you have to "work" for, it's not a gift. Is that the teaching of this church?

Faith does not automatically produce good works.

Or maybe James - faith without obedience is dead Romans - keeping torah without believing in jesus is dead

@@indo3052 idk I don't see the Torah law being significant after Christs death, His law is in our hearts now and other authors dont emphasize the old testament law as much as they should if that is the proper interpretation.

@@DavidTheAssyrian can u show me where it says the law is written on our hearts. Because i dont have any laws written mine

@@DavidTheAssyrian jesus said he didnt come to do away with thr law, but to fully preach it. If anybody teaches the least of these commandments will be least in the kingdom

@@DavidTheAssyrian Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will cut with the house of Yashar’el after those days, says Yahuah; I will put my Torah into their mind, and write it in their hearts: and I will be their Elohiym, and they shall be to me a people: Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know Yahuah: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their Torahless deeds will I remember no more. Heb 8:13 In that he says, A Renewed Covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away. The writer of hebrews (40-70yrs) after messiahs death says the new covenant hasnt happened yet

Is it correct to believe that this conversation is proclaiming the separation of true/ false convertions at the end?

You obviously did not watch this video and came to spam Catholic ideology.

Way to go Jim! You are correct!

Wrong. By God's grace we do good works and that is how we are saved. A person without good works cannot be saved, no matter how much faith he has or how strong that faith is. See Luke 4:34. Salvation is a process, not a one-time emotional event one has in a tent revival.

@@georgepenton808 WRONG WRONG WRONG. Salvation is NOT a process. Santification and being made perfect throuh HIM, now those are a process. Salvation = grace through faith= 1 time event!

@@KD-ns1hn Yep ,you tell them. Amen.

Salvation is BY Grace THROUGH faith, "Unmirited favor" of God. Jude 24 CHRIST WILL PRESENT ME FAULTLESS BECAUSE OF GOD'S IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS, (that is Christ himself) TO ME. It's not me who will present myself as faultless with my "evidence of faith". Because of God's imputed righteousness, God will see Jesus in me,His own righteousness, His son whom i placed all my hope of salvation. CALVINISM IS SATAN'S DOCTRINE a goodworks salvationist

@Julian Clarke I would like to have this conversation with you. But I ask that we stick to one book. Would Romans suffice? We could do Romans, John, Galatians, or Hebrews. Those are the ones I have studied the most, in that order. I ask we stick to one book because I'm going to make the bold statement that you're taking these verses out of context.

@Julian Clarke I want to ask some clarifying questions first: What do you mean when you say "we have to keep God's law?" For Examples: Do you believe we must be baptized to be saved? Do you believe we must not commit any mortal sins? To what extent do I have to do works? What if I fail? What order does salvation, faith, and works fall into? i.e. Which one comes first, resulting in the others?

@Julian Clarke I was just looking for a quick rundown of what you believe. You say works+faith salvation, and it sounds like you need to keep the sabbath and be baptized as well. Also, I have no intention to be rude, but please do not bold everything. It looks like you're yelling. Here's my perspective for faith alone: The basis for my beliefs starts with Jesus’s statements. Jesus states eternal life is accomplished by believing in him (John 1:12, John 1:29, John 3:15-16, 3:18, 3:36, 4:10-14, 5:24, 5:38, 5:40, 6:29, 6:40, 6:47, 7:37-39, 8:24). I believe Jesus forgives me of my sins John 8:34-36. I believe in him. Therefore, so far it seems clear to me that I am saved. John 1:33 John baptized using water. Jesus baptizes using the Holy Spirit John 7:37-39 says that we will flow rivers of water, which is the Holy Spirit. John 4:10 Jesus is the one who gives living water. (The Holy Spirit) By believing in Jesus, I am baptized with the holy spirit. (Note how the passage says Jesus baptizes "with" the holy spirit) Because of this, I am in Christ and there is no condemnation (Romans 8). The Holy Spirit is the seal of my Salvation (2 Corinthians 1:22; 5:5; Ephesians 1:13-14; 4:30) And the Holy Spirit testifies with my spirit that I am a Child of God (Rom 8:16). On the contrary, you quote the old testament's works that we must do. Here is what Romans says about that: Rom 1:18. The wrath of God is coming to all who do unrighteousness. Romans 2: "Therefore you have no excuse, Everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things." Romans 2:17-24 shows that even those who think they are following the law of God are condemned. Paul makes this extremely clear, in Romans 3:9-19, that everyone is under the wrath of God. “Who can be saved then?” is a question that I would ask. It appears that I have no way of saving myself and neither do you, for we have sinned and fallen short of God's glory! (Rom 3:23). And the penalty for sin is death (Rom 6:23) Romans 3:20-28. We are justified by God by faith, apart from works of the law (v28). For it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." But, "The righteous shall live by faith." Edit: I forgot you use only the KJV. Feel free to read it in your translation.

@Julian Clarke You had no words regarding the verses I referenced. I hope you are reading the scriptures that I use to answer to you. JC- "Romans 3:27 27) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. BY WHAT LAW?*? *OF WORKS? Nay: But by the law of Faith. We Are NOT Saved by the LAW, BUT Do we Still Have to KEEP THEM ?" JL- Exactly, we are not saved by the law. You got it. You said it right there. JC-Matthew 7:21 KJV Not EVERY ONE that SAITH unto me, LORD, LORD, Shall Enter into the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN;BUT he That DOETH THE WILL of My Father which is in Heaven. JL-John 6:29 “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” For Jesus tells us how to be saved: by believing. John 1:12, John 1:29, John 3:15-16, 3:18, 3:36, 4:10-14, 5:24, 5:38, 5:40, 6:29, 6:40, 6:47, 7:37-39, 8:24 JC- James 2:17 17) EVEN SO FAITH , IF IT HATH NOT WORKS , IS DEAD , Being ALONE . Hebrews 3:18-19 "And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who were disobedient? And so we see that they were not able to enter because of unbelief." Right there: Unbelief..lack of faith. For James 2:18 says I will show you my faith by my works. For that's what works do..they show faith to be genuine. So you see that works do not save us, but evidence true faith. Hebrews 3:6 "but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house-whose house we are, if we hold firmly to our confidence and the boast of our hope." Therefore, I am only excluded from Christ's house if I fall into unbelief. I believe in the name of Jesus for the salvation of my sins. Romans 9:30-33 KJV: "What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone; As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumbling stone and rock of offense: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." If you try to accomplish the law for your salvation you will not attain to it. It is written that Jesus is the stumbling stone because so many try to work for heaven. Matt 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’ You may have a zeal for doing the works of God, but by thinking they save you you are excluded from Christ: Gal 5:4 KJV "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." Does not paul define Grace? Romans 11:6 KJV “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.” Galatians 3 KJV This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? I want to clarify that believers by faith do work. But this work doesn't save us. By no means am I the man in Jude verse 4. I hope to hear what you have to say about these scriptures...instead of quoting others instead. For the word of God doesn't contradict. So how can I quote scripture that says clearly faith alone and you quote works? But it is simply because I explained it above using the scriptures.

@Julian Clarke I wanted to have this conversation as an exchange of ideas, to both understand each other's perspective and to give pushback on those ideas using the scriptures. Ultimately ending up with a greater understanding of each other's beliefs and potentially even our own. And, hopefully having some things to consider because of what we've learned along the way. Is this a conversation you're interested in having? It sounded like it was, but it looks like it has fallen apart very quickly, partially maybe even being my own fault.

@Julian Clarke i don't need to be Daved

Thank God I can read a bible , and rightly divide the word of God. You are saved by faith + nothing. NOT BY WORKS. PERIOD.

You should know that modern Christianity is in total disagreement with first century Christianity. Modern teachings that your salvation is all about grace and feelings and works play no part in it is actually driving people away from the essential things they need for salvation. It was prophesied there would be many false teachers in the last days deceiving the people, and you can see that being played out today, when "christian" teachers are deceiving the masses into believing works don't matter. You need to ask yourself, who is right and who is wrong. The people that knew Jesus personally, or the ones today that are two thousand years removed from Jesus. If there is any logic or rationality at all in you, it shouldn't be a hard choice to make. This is how First century Christians taught. First you repent of your sins. Second, you purify your minds, you work to purge your minds of your sinful nature through fasting and prayer. Next, you are baptized by immersion in water. As your body was previously the habitation of Demons, the act of baptism washes your body clean so you will be fit to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Then, the priest lays his hands on your head for the reception of the Holy Ghost. Then you are baptized with fire. You feel unspeakable joy, and your mind is enlightened towards understanding things in ways you never imagined before. The early Christians taught that unless you are baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, you cannot be saved in heaven regardless of how many good works you have done. This is the grace part of your salvation, that so many modern Christians are confused about. Without the saving grace of the Holy Ghost, you must of necessity when you die, go to a spirit prison or to hell, where you are punished for your sins as you await judgment day. On judgment day, your very soul is put into peril as you are judged for your works, and you hope the good you did outweighed the bad, so you are not cast out into outer darkness. They taught that it is far better to receive the Holy Ghost and be saved in this life so you are not put into such peril. On the other hand, if you through repentance of your sins and baptism, you received the gift of the Holy Ghost, then it becomes your duty to be a soldier for Christ and do all the good works you can in your life. On judgment day you will be rewarded with much or little according to your works. Like Paul said, we must "work" out our salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians 2: 12. From this point on you cannot ever do anything that would deny the Holy Ghost, lest you risk a condemnation greater than if you never accept Christ in the first place. "12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches." Revelation 22

You can't add works to a gift? What if someone gifts you a lawnmower? Or cleaning supplies? Wouldn't the gift be empty, and even desecrated, if it wasn't put into action and used?

Fair point. Hmmm. So God supplies the lawnmower. But does God provide YOU with the ability to mow, or is He ALSO the one who provides the lawnmower WITH Himself to mow for you?

What you apparently don't understand is. Yes, we are saved by God's mercy and favor. As to the gift idea. It would be like me gifting you a car and you never using it. The mercy and favor of God regenerates by the Spirit of God. But it doesn't end there. We get a New Life, that is how we are regenerated. That news life produces the characteristics of that life. Paul said I have been crucified with Christ. It is no more I who lives but Christ who lives in me. The life I now live in the flesh I live by faith. James point, faith without works is dead. I Faith that what Christ commands is produced in me. That's why Christ said if you love Me you will obey me. So salvation is not being delivered from hell and the wrath of God but is a new power of life to overcome sin. Being delivered from the wrath of God and going to Heave is a by-product. The death and blood of Christ made that possible. 1John. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. No action in character, no life. No life no Christ, no Christ no Heaven.

@@bekimbal9658 second you purify your mind? What? How?