How BAD Is Marvin Bagley Actually? 

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The thing about him is he hasn’t necessarily gotten worse he’s just been stagnant for the past 5 years he’s still stuck at his rookie year

Kudos to the kings, they took a beating by drafting him over Luka, trading Tyrese and they still looking like a great team

Drafting this dude over Luka has to be one of the dumbest things a franchise did in a long time, Divac was a horrible GM. Glad to see Kings managed to overcome it and are actually good right now

The similiarity between Bagley and Wiseman is almost uncanny. Both 2nd picks in the draft who just when they were playing well got derailed by injuries in their rookie season. Both are low basketball IQ bastketball players with elite athleticism that should have been better defensive players. And now they are both playing for Detroit after the teams that drafted them finally gave up on them. Sometimes the universe has a wicked sense of humor.

His father definitely didn’t help matters. He demanded a trade on social media when his son was on the Kings. He got what he asked for, and was traded to the 17-65 Pistons. Meanwhile, the Kings became a playoff team and a championship contender.

Players like Bagley never really pan out. It’s like Jordan Bell and Derrick Williams. Their athleticism carry’s them through high school and college but just isn’t enough in the league

As a Kings fan I’ve been waiting for this one. Injuries were a huge issue for him, could have been a lot better, but even an ultimate ceiling of Amare Stoudamire pales in comparison to Luka, and even then, we didn’t even get him to be a solid role player (but we did get Trey Lyles for him so who’s the real winner 😤)

Good stuff man, keep doing you!

About to binge your content, brotha

Shoutout to you for calling out the “RU-vid clickbait” epidemic. I’m so sick of people piecing together a 2 minute highlight clip of a clear bust and saying they are “reviving” their career

Marvin is the best example of what is wrong with NBA scouts. They are out of touch with modern NBA game. The game changes constantly but the scouting doesn't keep up

He’s always two steps slow on defense. In a league where half a step kills your entire defense, two steps is unrecoverable. I don’t even know how to fix that - because it’s awareness AND effort.

Not the worst player I've ever seen but still a massive bust for the #2 spot

Bagley is a 20 10 guy if he plays 35 minutes a game, but his defense is so bad it’s not worth the headache.

Hey great video, he had a bunch of hype coming into the nba and someone who had a similar amount of hype was Michael Beasley as well. Could you do Michael Beasley?

This video details how his fall was almost predetermined. He was THE guy from age 13. There are maybe 4 or 5 of them at NBA level and Bagley's style of play is a bit of a weird fit in today's NBA because he's not strong enough to play the 5, he can't stretch the floor to play the 4, he's a black hole on offense and he's horrendous on defense. Then there's the NBA schedule and injuries. At this point his best bet is to be a budget Obi Toppin if he wants to stick around. If a big isn't elite at something to build his game around he's more than likely going to be a bust.

Bagley shows there's more to being a good ball player than jumping high and being "springy." AAU ball is ruining young prospects by focusing on highlight ball instead of fundamentals. Don't get me wrong, I love a strong, thundering dunk but if that's all you can really do, then you're extremely limited

He's a bust compared to expectations. As a backup big - 14/7 isn't bad. If he had been a late first round pick, and not surrounded by all-stars in the lottery, we wouldn't be having this discussion. As the guy drafted before Luka? Ouch!

Wait wait wait, I thought he blamed all his struggles on the kings? His dad said once he leaves Sac he would blossom??? Ok, one more Jaden Ivey did not want to come to Sac because of our losing culture, as the pistons now sit at 23 straight losses 😬

A lot of people like to trash the Kings for drafting Bagley over Luka. Obviously in hindsight, it will be remembered as one of the worst draft decisions in history, but I'm glad you pointed out that, at the time, this move made a lot of sense for Sacramento. If you think about it, this was their first attempt at creating the Sabonis/Fox duo that eventually led them to the 3rd seed. This was the safe and seemingly correct choice at the time. But this was all ruined due to injury, lack of basketball IQ, and what seemed like a unwillingness to work on his flaws.

He just got traded I'm still holding the faith on him

People saying the Kings messed up picking him over Luka when he publicly said he didn’t want to play for Sacramento pre draft. Kings needed size not another guard to take the ball out of Foxs hands

I think there have been a lot of players over the years that just wanted to be Drafted and get a Bonus and an NBA contract and that was enough for them. Meaning they weren't motivated to be great. Bagley seems to be one of those guys.

I still can’t believe the kings drafted him instead of Luka or even TY. Unbelievable.

Scouts see 6’10 plus guys with even a slight handle and average jump shot in college and they go crazy. Then they end up with guys like this ... and Ben Simmons… dragan bender. LMAO that’s a reach but you get the point. They totally overlook intangibles, work ethic, even defence ability In some cases.

I met M bag in 2019 , good kid

Nah he's my BOY in mycareer 🤣😭😭😭

I always wondered why nobody talked about him

Well, at least the Kings draft of Keegan Murray over Jaden Ivey is looking good. They took lots of heat on that one. I always wondered if Doncic and Fox could’ve played together. Both need the ball to be effective.

Pistons have him AND James Wiseman but neither them are starting and dont even get more than 20 mins a game

Honestly I feel like this was the straw that broke the Kings’ back, and while trading Hali hurt I’m glad the Kings finally realized that draft picks just aren’t gonna get you into the playoffs without some solid trades.

Guys going to be a star, IMO. No cap.

This athletic prospects, they can dominate high-schoolers but when NBA competition comes in they can look silly and the silliest thing is that they had arguably the most decorated international prospect of all time in Luka Doncic to draft. That's an all-time fumble. If was a Kings fan I wouldn't recover from that.

Bro already won in life. He’s a multimillionaire

Bagley and his team at Sierra Canyon practically destroyed my HS’s team. I thought he had potential, but I guess he hasn’t developed it.

Will still put up a career high against the lakers

He looks like the bomb for the Pistons this season. I take a chance on him.

This take is TERRIBLE!!! Bagley is NOT a bust. He just went 10/12....Bagley is a bucket, and is unstoppable offensively. The REAL BUST is the Detroit Pistons and the Sac Kings prior to Coach Brown Era. ..... Those things are NOT Bagley fault....he just had bad luck with team selection.

He's pre James Wiseman.

I'm hoping NIL convinces players like him to stay in school atleast one more year. If you need to still develop as a basketball player, the NBA is obviously a tough league to do it in.

Who invented this "How good/bad actually" youtube trend? Lot of content titled the same but different channel.

Is he still into music? His love for music exceeded his thrive to improve in basketball.

Bagley should sign with either the 76ers or the magic for the minimum. He’s still can hoop.

He was traded to Wash, and he is going nuts.

As a Kings fan I wanted them to draft Luka sooooo bad. I was extremely disappointed when they drafted Bagley cuz everything about him was just a red flag compared to Luka

How good is Marvin bagley is the next video u should make

Back to the fields boy

With how the 2018 draft is panning out, the Suns and Kings will take heat for a while for taking Ayton and Bagley over guys like Luka, JJJ, Trae, MPJ, etc. Even still, trading Ayton got them Bradley Beal. Bagley, like many players, struggled to translate his game to the NBA and now is on the brink of being out of the league while the players I’ve mentioned earlier are all playing at high levels.

How you gonna pass on Luka? Imagine Luka and Fox in the Backcourt, with Monk coming off the bench. Straight 🔥. So many #2 picks have ended up looking horrible over the years.

As a kings fan, I’m here for this

After watching him in HS there is no way we should be having this conversation but here we are.

Scoot video when

He balling out now 👀

I been watching a lot of your videos on and I keep wondering how this could happen again and again to top NBA prospects? From college on, as a talented player, don't you have an army of training and coaching staff shadowing your every turn and move? Is it first and foremost not the staff's fault to mess up a talent? If you manage to get into the NBA, you're one of the best and if your mind set is right, staff around should be able to mend gaming deficiencies, I guess…

You should have made the "cooler" pub

The hawks had the 3rd pick and traded down on draft day

Apparently Marvin hasn’t added to his bag

Preface saying I'm a Kings fan and grew up in Sacramento. To this day I get what they were trying to do by drafting Bagley ... Potential pick and role with Fox and a big man that could run with him on fast breaks. Also it's not like Bagley was a reach he was slated to be a top 3 pick in all mock drafts. There are two things that I believe effected his development which were touched in here ... First the obvious one injuries. The second was going with Walton as a couch. I never liked the move and even less with the offensive "System" Walton employed. You had one of the fastest guards in the NBA with a athletic big man and you slow the pace down ... Yeah recipe for disaster. Also Walton packed the ability to develop players. Bagley in my eyes is a result of the current system when I comes to basketball, the lack of coaching fundamentals...a large percentage of coaches from highschool to college seem like they don't take the time to teach a player the basics when they are extremely athletic, how many players have we seen come in ultra athletic but lacking the basic skills they should of established early in their play.

Marvin Bagley became Marvin BagofChips. His mentality is the problem, he became stagnant.

9:33 luka was in a tier of his own in that draft class. Its not even close.

When I saw him play La Lumiere in high school against Brian Bowen, Jaren Jackson Jr, and Jordan Poole (guys who have all made it to the league), there was no way that Bagley wasn’t the best player. Crazy how their careers turned out with only two of them panning out at the NBA level.

Players like him is why I stop getting hyped by NBA prospect that dunking and dribling and such. Show me his pick n roll defense. How he move off the ball. How he handle double teams. If all a prospect can do is dribling and dunking, then he aint gonna be in NBA for a long time lmaoo

I'm from Sacramento so I'm beyond familiar with his story. He's a complete bust but he's made over 50 million and gets to live out his dream. He's deleted all his social media for his own sanity but he's made it and accomplished something 0.1% of the population never will. Props to him.

I ain’t gonna lie I thought he was a hybrid Chris Bosh

Bagley still shows all those tools that made him an elite prospect. His athleticism is absurd. Its like he basically stopped progressing since duke

damn he was that good i never knew

NBA scouts thought Bagley was a TOP 3 Rookie player . They also thought Keegan Murray was like a ehh and Jayden Ivey was the next Ja Morant . That was going put the Pistons into the playoffs . Fast forward a year Pistons now hold the nba record for the longest losing streak and even have Bagley and Jayden Ivey . On top of that they bashed Sacramento the entire time and it took them till the end of the year to actually start acknowledging them a little bit .

Injuries & lack of confidence while also not knowing his real role his entire career is what’s the clear problem with him, as well as people like James Wiseman.

Im glad we got trey lyles for him

Man my expectations for him was AD lite boy was I wrong

Right now, there are just the same amount of Marvin Bagleys in the world, as the Pistons have wins…

Č & Ć in Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian players is pronaunced like it's written CH. Like PopoviCH, his real surname is PopoviĆ So read it as Luka Donchich, Bojan Bogdanovich etc

I have no idea why the Kings fired Joerger, they had their best season in years with him & almost made the playoffs. But since his rookie season he regressed & yes he doesn’t like to pass the ball

Marvin Bustley

Seems like Jahlil Okafor all over again. Strange how they were both Duke one and done bigs.

Things not doing well for him. At this point he will be remembered as the player drafted before luka. 😢

When you think about it, as ridiculous as the Kings have been as a franchise, the one thing they have had going all the way back to the Divac playing days was big men with saavy and high passing IQs. Divac, Webber, Miller, Cousins, and now Sabonis. And then in the middle of that, they went and drafted the anti of all that. An athlete with no BB IQ at all. And it worked out about how you might expect. Taking this guy over Luka, Trae, and Shai was the unforgiveable sin though. Then again, I remember them once taking Thomas Robinson over Lillard, and Fredette over Klay and Kawhi, so drafting is a huge part of why they just stayed bad forever for so long.

It's a " ...muy fallo " according to the Naka chronicles.

Bagley never learned to play basketball simple as that. Hes athletic but has no feel for game.

Mavs didn’t even draft luka. That’s how many people passed on him

why those prospects flunk? its because of over hyping their videos.

Luka Donkitch 👀

Just glad he's outta Sacramento.

These guys could have had Luca, De’Aaron and Tyrese all on the team in a perfect world man.if no trades ever happened and if they drafted Luca smh crazy . Still great now but damn think about that lol

This will be Ayton

Starvin' Marvin Trashley.

The new Michael Beasley

He needs to go to the warriors trade Klay Thompson and Kuminga for Marvin bagley and see how you can get Karl Anthony towns

timeout timeout. PLEASEEE do a video on Josh Jackson for the love of god

i liked marvin, its a shame he didnt pan out, had all the tools to be great

he’s 7 feet tall and in the nba. who are you buddy?

Hey, he’s still a dope ass rapper lol. No cap

The Heat can fix him.

omg my kings chose him over Luka😭, But look what it led to!!👍

He asked to be traded from the one team committed to helping him succeed. He deserve everything happening to him now 🔦🟣

Man went from the Sacramento Kings before they got good to the Detroit Pistons right after they were mostly just mediocre for the 2010s. I know it actually is partially his fault but damn that’s not a great draw even as a Kings fan I can admit we didn’t give him much of a chance at a star role after his injury.

Sacramento gave this dude so much love and his dad killed all the love. Thanks for taking your bust son to detroit marvin Sr

Donkich? Seriously?