How bad was Claudine Gay’s plagiarism? 

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" - Claudine Gay

Defending plagiarism, at the dawn of the age of AI, seems like specifically the worst move possible for an elite academic institution.

"Four score and seven years ago, in order to form a more perfect union, our forefathers..." - Claudine Gay

It's not only plagiarism, it's plagiarized crap.

"To be, or not to be". Claudine Gay

"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother." -Claudine Gay

What’s worse than her plagiarism, she’s responsible for destroying the career of one of the most important intellectuals at Harvard, specifically for threatening her precious DEI narrative - Roland Fryer.

When I was an undergrad, it was made VERY clear that plagiarism was a VERY serious thing, and would be met with severe punishment. When I was in Grad School, Plagiarism was grounds for being expelled. She should be completely expunged from academia, shunned and ostracized by all academic institutions, and never allowed to work in education for the rest of her life--as either an instructor or an administrator. Being a PhD, AND the top administrator of Harvard, she should be held to at least the same standards that the students of her university are held to. The fact that she still has a job at Harvard that doesn't involve a mop bucket is a travesty, and a slap in the face of ANY Harvard student who has ever written a paper. What most people don't seem to realize is that to someone like Claudine Gay--a self-identified Marxist--is that what she did--in her mind-wasn't "plagiarism". As a Marxist, she doesn't believe in Intellectual Property, so stealing someone else's ideas is just the Academic version of "Seizing the Means of Production" in her twisted logic. And THAT is the REAL issue here--not that she is dishonest, or a plagiarist, or a liar--but that she is a Marxist who believes she has the right to other peoples property without recompense or attribution.....

So plagiarism by professors at Harvard is treated considerably less seriously than plagiarism by its students? That is pretty much the opposite of the way it should be. Leaders should be held to a HIGHER standard, not a lower one.

That Harvard defended Gay is indefensible. That it defended - or did not punish - others is equally indefensible. If a student did this, they would be expelled. Quickly.

When I was writing my thesis and dissertation in theoretical chemistry and chemical physics, my major professors even stated that if I use an equation, from a paper, not only do you cite the paper you better change the fonts on mathematical expressions. Copying one single sentence was not only an impossibility but a straight path to getting kicked out. I just don't understand why in the hell didn't she put citations in her work. Even in the sciences now, we've become infected with this woke nonsense that you can not question the protected class. In one instance, in the theoretical science at the ACS, I questioned the work of a climate scientist on the validity of their stochastic partial differential equations in its analysis. These equations are inherently chaotic because they contain far too many variables and do not have well understood boundary conditions (the initial state of a system). I was just told the questioning of the science may actually hurt in promoting these ideals. I was told I wasn't a climate scientist. However, upon further questioning, the authors, themselves, didn't understand the mathematics to a large degree. So when did science stop not attempting to understand the governing laws of nature? However, what's most insidious, the entire committee on the dissertation board needs to be fired or needs to step down. Harvard itself is responsible for allowing and advocating this behavior.

I don't understand why anyone believes a professor can transition from teaching in a classroom to managing a multibillion dollar organization with no prior management experience of any kind.

Short version: college is a scam.

The plagiarism is so bad that during the hearing she gave the same answer as the UPenn president. She wanted to condemn antisemitism, but she couldn’t think of the words😂

I’m a HS teacher. I hold my students to a much higher standard than Harvard did with Gay.

The underlying problem isn’t plagiarism. It’s that her work is empty. She brings nothing except some checkboxes.

Ive published 30 peer review articles in political science and have myself reviewed for many journals. Those verbatim chunks that she has lifted (from Canon, King) are NEVER acceptable without explicit in-text citation, so i don't understand why Aaron is being so generous.

From the Harvard Guide to Using Sources: " When you fail to cite your sources, or when you cite them inadequately, you are plagiarizing,which is taken extremely seriously at Harvard. Plagiarism is defined as the act of either intentionally OR unintentionally submitting work that was written by someone else. If you turn in a paper that was written by someone else, or if you turn in a paper in which you have included material from any source without citing that source, you have plagiarized" end of quote. Plagiarism is the act of presenting the words, ideas, or images of another as your own; it denies authors or creators of content the credit they are due. Whether deliberate or unintentional, plagiarism violates ethical standards in scholarship. Writers who plagiarize disrespect the efforts of original authors by failing to acknowledge their contributions, stifle further research by preventing readers from tracing ideas back to their original sources, and unfairly disregard those who exerted the effort to complete their own work. Quotations must always be identified as such by the use of either quotation marks or indentation, and with full referencing of the sources cited. It must always be apparent to the reader which parts are your own independent work and where you have drawn on ideas and language from another source. Paraphrasing the work of others by altering a few words and changing their order, or by closely following the structure of their argument, is plagiarism if you do not give due acknowledgement to the author whose work you are using.A passing reference to the original author in your own text may not be enough; you must ensure that you do not create the misleading impression that the paraphrased wording or the sequence of ideas are entirely your own.

She lifted her information on the VRA from somebody else's paper on the VRA. That is a strong indication that she also lifted all her ideas from that paper, which is even worse. It is also a strong indication that she didn't even bother to read the VRA for herself, to form any ideas of her own, for her DISSERTATION.

“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. -Wayne Gretzky -Michael Scott” -Claudine Gay

"Life aint nothing but bitches and money" Claudine Gay

What i'm realizing more and more is just the accepted standards or "norms" in the sociology/humanities departments are just so low compared with other fields.

“I tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end, it doesn’t even matter. “ Claudine Gay

Just finished watching another video. This lady only has 11 published works. For someone being hired as the president of Harvard, this is not very many, for someone claiming to be a scholar. His thoughts on why she had not been previously called out was that no one probably read her works.

In her resignation Dr Gay stated, "I am not a crook!"

Here's another problem people seem to be ignoring: Harvard has always known she was plagiarizing. There is no way, with as little as she wrote, that they didn't know.

When you see a woman with short hair who studied social science: run. Run for your life

I think the worst thing and biggest thing about the plagiarism is that her and Harvard's blatant attempt to cover it up heavily implies iml that the plagiarism was intentional. Which makes it far worse imo.

Some people must actually believe that plagiarism is a human right.

Gay attained such lofty academic heights solely because she has been under the aegis of complexion protection for most of her professional career.

The bivariate distribution thing: The changed wording changed the meaning of the original in a way that shows that she did not really understand the original. It's not just "plagiarism", it's incompetence. You'd need a bit of experience in statistical methods to see that.

Gay's plagiarism wasn't "bad" or even particularly remarkable at all if your baseline is the "scholarship" of the average social science department apparatchik. In fact, along with the word salad, complete innumeracy, and general awful writing, it's totally par for the course in literally all the "x-studies" departments.

Even if she stepped down, she's still working at Harvard, she still gets paid $900k a year. It will take years to get a committee to remove her entirely. Don't be distracted by a flashy proceeding. This is far from over.

She copied several paragraphs where she just changed a few words, it's pretty obvious "from 0 to 1" became "between 0 to 1". Even her supporters say she "technically" plagiarized.

Claudine Gay has argued that Vanilla Ice's song "Ice Ice Baby" usage of the baseline from Queens song "Under Pressure" does not constitute copyright infringement, but merely "duplicative sounds"

“A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..” Claudine Gay

As a veteran college educator whose courses focus heavily on graduate-level composition with pointed emphasis on academic integrity, I do not follow Sibarium’s excessively cautious and circuitous treatment of Gay’s plagiarism: She baldly copied from multiple outside sources without attribution-it’s comical to mention “bibliography” in the context of citation, since Gay’s readers would literally have no inkling as to which work listed at the end of her document had been drawn from in which sentence/section of her paper, let alone from which page/portion of that source work, or even in what capacity (e.g. legitimately paraphrased vs. directly quoted material). I have assigned failing grades to dozens of students in my classes over the past 15+ years for violations far less egregious than those in Gay’s publications. Close paraphrases have no business appearing in (secondary) research at all; Gay breaks this absolute rule repeatedly, including lengthy stretches of rawly plagiarized text. Hers is the most cut-and-dried case of naked academic dishonesty I’ve ever come across at the level of top university administration. Even allowing for a “continuum” of offenses against scholarly integrity, Gay deserves a ‘death penalty’ equivalent here.

"Sometimes that shark, he looks right into you. Right into your eyes. You know that thing about a shark, he’s got…lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be livin’. Until he bites ya and those black eyes roll over white." - Claudine Gay

Plagiarism is at least as bad as wearing black face. Pretending to be someone you're not !? Unforgivable.

When you permit people into positions or places that their individual merit would not allow, but instead look to other factors like gender, race, or *insert superficial characteristic here*, this is what you get: people who don't have the merit, don't think they should need to demonstrate the merit cause they're "socially special," and opportunist race hustlers who exploit certain sympathies to advance their personal goals.

Do I understand this correctly, that the students are held to a hire standard than the faculty? So much for lead by example.

I actually wrote a dissertation and don't need to quote Harvard so I speak from experience. It can happen that you write a dissertation and make a mistake or mistakes and that is why there is editing. I edited my own dissertation and made sure every thought that was not mine was attributed to the proper party. What I'm saying here is that a President of a premier research university like Harvard should have a flawless dissertation that has proper citations. The President of Harvard is going to have their dissertation throughly reviewed and it has to be properly cited. From my reading of the various stories about this matter I would say it appears to have been a case of less than optimal citations and one can expect criticism as a result.

Some of my professors stated in their syllabi that one instance of failure to cite would result in a letter-grade reduction; more than one instance would be considered plagiarism and would be reported to the Student Honor Committee.

The best one is how she plagiarized the acknowledgements section from a book and changed the names to her mentors

Sincerely, I studied in a US college that is not as prestigious as Harvard but they took plagiarism more seriously than Harvard. It is a shame that the president of a university that should be an example for all would take plagiarism so lightly. I thought the way that Harvard handled the face book affair was an indication of how the ethical map of Harvard has lost its compass.

yeah but she wrote a brilliant play, I can only remember a small part it went "to be or not to be that is the question" I don't know how she comes up with this stuff

Also, Gay won’t share her data she used with other scholars. Have people checked the integrity of her data?

This is what Harvard calls, “inadequate citation” or whatever term they used? So shameful. Now ever student at Harvard can breath a sigh of relief because they no longer have to worry about plagiarizing someone else’s work. How can they discipline or expel a student after having a professor on staff who themselves is a plagiarist? That student would be perfectly justified in suing the university.

“I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.” - Claudine Gay

I think it sets a bad precedent to fight a unique battle on the wrong grounds. Her perspective on antisemitism was immeasurably worse than any of this and having her fired over this seems to excuse the former, or at least sweep it under the rug.

Wow amazing these are near identical. She just kept getting away with it due to affirmative action.

In the context of the rigorous environment of an elite university, any plagiarism is unacceptable.

If you're the right color; you can get away with almost anything

She's demoted to a $900,000 teaching job so the thought thief wins.

I like to think Roland Fryer is out there posting memes to all the Twitter threads about this story 😂

You know things are going down in academia when professors are defending a plagiarist.

plagiarism is bad but the real issue is that you can major in black political activism and this gets you to the presidency at harvard and a million dollar salary.

I think the reason why if you've got a more upset about her acceptance plagiarism then the context play drizzle is because The acceptance speech part is the easy part. You quite literally just have to share your story, Your personal experiences. Stealing somebody else's words in that contexts just shows how low you really are when it comes to Any sort of critical thinking.

She would be a perfect fit in Romania where everyone has a PhD and it’s plagiarized! No questions asked!

In the world of academia original research is the holy grail of their world. It is the primary reason for their existence and it is taken very, very seriously. Based on the revelations that have surfaced regarding Dr. Gay, it is clear that she is a primary lightweight in her field and doesn’t measure-up to the standards we would expect from a school such as Harvard, let alone a regional university. However, if Dr. Gay is in fact representative of the research standards that Harvard is proud of, then Harvard has sunk to a level of mediocrity that is not commensurate with their reputation. But, does anybody really think social science research is real research anyway. Perhaps Dr. Gay is representative of the whole field. But, what do presidents of universities do anyway? They raise money, they go to meetings, they keep alumni happy. They are PR-frontmen/women, so Dr. Gay is probably qualified for that job and she doesn’t have to pretend that she is a serious academic.

Would it be fair to say that social science is actually bullshit not science? And if someone copies someone else's bullshit does it even matter

She didn't do incidental or accidental plagerism which can trip up people sometimes. She did so much that it shows she did not care of she plagerised

How can she retain the respect of her colleagues?

I love the this sentence in Claudine Gay’s essay, “I would never enable calling for the Genocide of Jews. I would not could not in a Box, I would not could not with a Fox.”

I think the sad part is that she has only published 11 papers total. The University of Missouri expects its faculty to publish 2 papers a year. She has been a professor since 2000 at some university. She was the president of harvard. She was the head of arts and science for 3 years.

Former students who were dismissed because of plagiarism should sue 😂😂😂

Every single one of her students needed to include in their thesis, “and Dr. Gay’s family pushed me harder than I wanted to be pushed.”

It was worse than plagiarism. She falsified things she plagiarized and changed the results of studies she didn't like the outcome of.

Let's be honest. The best people do not rise to the top in academia.

It was so bad she couldn’t spell plagiarism until she saw it in someone else’s article!

CNTRL C -> CNTRL V "The Keys to Success" by Claudine Gay

The lack of intellectual integrity is appauljng for someone of such a prominent position like president of a top ivy league college in the country. Like freshmen year of college they teach you all about avoiding plagiarism and the importance of integrity and citing your work.

If you can't find a way to say something different from someone else, quote them with quotation marks. Or at least paraphrase. You have to give credit where credit is due.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. " ----Claudine Gay

Next gen: "ChatGPT, please rewrite this text so that no one can prove plagiarism"

She had no excuse, and there is no possible moral defense. Had to be fired. Tenure revoked, PhD eecinded, and no possible academic employment.

BASED ON THIS CASE, the FBI has opened an investigation into Donald J Trunffs 4th grade book report to see if there are any indictments forthcoming

Plagiarism can be either a result of incompetence or laziness , in the case of Claudine Gay, it is both.

How many students have failed a course or have been thrown out of school for plagiarism? She was a mediocre student & mediocre "professional". There is no excuse, under any circumstances, for what she has done. She should not be teaching at Harvard much less a tenured professor at $900k/year🤯🤯

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Claudine Gay

I have written post grad papers and helped others with theirs. If you question it should be sited, you site it. This is not a acceptable prepared

Even a technical explanation lifted from another work should be cited. The default should citation for ANY phrases or passages let alone the author's own description of someone else's work. I can't believe the level of gaslighting against such a simple rule. It is quite clear that following actual academic standards, Claudine Gay would not have made the cut either by incompetence or laziness. If she was from another background folks would have been more willing to see that she was rich brat who took the easy expressway to power.

"Hasta la vista, Baby!" - Claudine Gay also "I'll be back." - Claudine Gay also "Bond. James Bond." - Claudine Gay

This is what you get when you lower the bar to get people who are the color thats in fashion in. If you don’t put the best people in for the job you will not get the best person! Simple! But cheating is a whole new level. She will be remembered for this forever

"It was a dark and stormy night." - Claudine Gay

A college president should be the best example and standard a university has to offer,clearly Harvard does not have much to offer at all.

2:57 "there's only so many ways to describe an equation" I understand the point. let's ask this question instead. Within the differences of her papers, the non-plagiarized parts, did she contribute anything significantly new to the body of knowledge and thought to her field? If no, one then wonders how her papers got published? Do they have peer review like science papers?

It is one thing to cheat when it matters. It is another thing entirely to cheat when it does not matter.

In her case the imposter syndrome was genuine insight.

Plagiarizing the acknowledgements is almost worse in some way. It's not just stealing data or phraseology, but it's demonstrating that she isn't even expressing her own thoughts in regards to her influences. She couldn't write a short sentence about who influenced her work? She had to steal THAT?

I mean if you are at the point copying "Thank you" notes off of other people. Thats just sign of insincerity toward having gratitude, and deeply seated narcissism.

“Two rods diverged in a Yellow wood” an excerpt from Claudine gay.

"'Sometimes - history needs a push." --Claudine Gay

Just "a little plagiarism" is horrific and would have cost me my job immediately. A mistake is forgivable, whereas, intentional deceit is not.

“and so we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.” -Claudine Gay

The problem is not plagiarism. The real problem is literally EVERYTHING ELSE she did. Calling her out for plagiarism is like arresting Al Capone for tax exasion.

So if you are paying Harvard to learn from them, plagiarism is absolutely unacceptable, however, if Harvard is paying you to teach those people, plagiarism is fine and no big deal? Seems legit.

All I wanna do is zoom-a-zoom-zoom-zoom And a poom-poom, just shake ya rump -Claudine Gay

12:43 "It is interesting to run the counter factuals, in which you subtract this or that given example..." That's definately going into my thesis.

"Always...no, never forget to check your references." - Me. I mean Dr Meredith, "Real Genius."