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Scores of people - including many beloved musicians and celebrities - are dying from perfectly legal pharmacutical drugs. And many big companies are profiting. After cornering the market, these giant corporations inflate the prices to gouge the consumer. Lowering drug prices could be obtained by starting first in the patent office.
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TAHIR AMIN:
Tahir Amin is an attorney with more than 25 years of experience in intellectual property law. Amin’s pioneering work challenging patents has established a new model for treatment access, one that restores balance to the system by upending the structural power dynamics that allow inequities to persist.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Tahir Amin: So the patent system has been a great driver of medical inventions. We've seen some terrific discoveries and inventions in the medical space. But as we've evolved in the system, I think we're starting to see-- as a lawyer who's practiced in this area, we're starting to see a lot of strategies that are played by pharmaceutical companies in order to maintain their monopolistic hold or their exclusivity hold over a particular product. And what they do is they ratchet up a number of patents around a particular product in order to prevent competition from getting in.
And we all know that once you have competition, prices drive down. There's a number of studies that show prices can drop more than 50% if you get competition in the marketplace sooner. So the idea that companies want to do is to basically prevent that competition from coming in earlier. And then the other argument of that is: are they then really inventing new things? Because what they do is they hold on to the marketplace as long as they can on the existing product.
They extend the franchise out by using patents, sometimes with the potential of holding the market for 40 years unless litigated. And we all know that litigation doesn't solve all the problems. And we've seen that in a number of the top-selling drugs in the United States. We've done studies as an organization where we have seen price hikes between 2012 and 2016 on the top 12 selling drugs in the United States have 68%.
And we've seen in parallel to that the number of patents that have been stacked up on those products, even after the product has been approved, even after the initial patent has expired, which is a 20 year term. And so they're just pushing it out further and further and further so that they can delay the competition getting in. And that all leads to market power and it all leads to the ability to increase prices at will.
If you look at a pharmaceutical company, the scientists who work there, the people who work on the development of drugs, their primary purpose is to help people, I believe. I genuinely believe that. I believe the conversations I've had with people from that sector. They believe that if they bring a new product to market and it saves someone's life or it can actually make somebody healthy, they really do believe that.
Unfortunately, there's a business side to it, as well. And so what you have is for every scientist, you have probably two lawyers who are watching over them saying, "OK, how can we extract a patent out of this and to make sure that nobody else gets in there?" And so what we have is then you have-- in particularly the pharmaceutical market, there's an argument that it's become overly financialized in terms of its investors who drive what companies do, rather than maybe the initially intended purpose was to deliver health products and to help make people not have to become ill and stay alive.
And I think some of that has got lost in the process as pharmaceutical companies now really start to look at their bottom line and their shareholders and what the investors want rather than what their original purpose was (to help people become healthier). And I think that the bargain of that has tilted more towards the financial-ization of things rather than thinking about health first.
I-MAK comprises lawyers and scientists who have come from the private practice background. We've all worked in industry. I myself have been a solicitor in the United Kingdom, working for the commercial side of intellectual property for over 10 years. And we've taken that knowledge to apply it in a public interest way, whereby we look at, particularly in the pharmaceutical industry, how do pharmaceutical corporations strategi...
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Комментарии : 134   
@tyrannosaurhex6132
@tyrannosaurhex6132 5 лет назад
Pharma is one industry which should be highly regulated. I'm glad that he mentioned India as an example for HIV drugs. I remember the Indian government stepping in 4 years back, and the prices of essential drugs fell by upto 60% overnight without any reduction in taxes. Just made me wonder how much money these companies were making earlier prior to the price drop. Healthcare should not be a business, period.
@vvs1855
@vvs1855 3 года назад
What can we as the people do? Civil war?
@gkes4617
@gkes4617 3 года назад
@@vvs1855 vote for bernie or whoever will replace him
@heristyono4755
@heristyono4755 5 лет назад
Capitalistic pharma be like, "one patient cured is one customer lost"
@vvs1855
@vvs1855 3 года назад
Fuckkk. Why do they do this to us.
@anonl6027
@anonl6027 3 года назад
Well put.
@shantaatkins
@shantaatkins 3 года назад
Yep
@PeaceNinja007
@PeaceNinja007 2 года назад
CORPORATISTIC!!! This is like the 20th time I see people confuse corporatism with capitalism i'm getting a little annoyed now 😑 What's the point of RU-vid putting a thumbs down button if it doesn't even do anything when I click it 😑 Anyway, tackie konto explains why ..
@LowerYourExpectationsPleb
@LowerYourExpectationsPleb 2 года назад
Thats why covid vaccines dont work
@widyarifin29
@widyarifin29 5 лет назад
I'm going to say thank you for making the extra effort to put the subtitle, I really appreciated it that you hear what are the audiences (me especially) say. Big love
@hellooperator6639
@hellooperator6639 5 лет назад
Protip: Research who these pharma corporations are "donating" to in congress, senate, and other committees.
@Soletestament
@Soletestament 5 лет назад
it's more than just pharma though. Copyright and patent law in the US is seriously corrupt all around. As its in every industry's best interest to hold exclusive rights to their product for as long as possible. Try to change it and you'll have everyone from Disney to GE and the NRA lobbying to stop it.
@Miranox2
@Miranox2 5 лет назад
Official donations are only a tiny fraction of the money spent on politicians. The vast majority is "dark" money from anonymous sources, often only discovered through leaks.
@RationalAndFree
@RationalAndFree 5 лет назад
@@Soletestament kill patents. They really aren't worth the trouble, and the idea that innovation will be significantly impacted is grossly overstated.
@RationalAndFree
@RationalAndFree 5 лет назад
@Chuck-U Farly regulations are a stopgap to bigger problems within the economic system we find ourselves in.
@RationalAndFree
@RationalAndFree 5 лет назад
@Chuck-U Farly creating economic systems where a constantly increasing need of profitability for shareholders to continue investment results in those who are the more amoral people to be in charge of industries, which also finance governments through direct and indirect donations to ensure that regulations and laws ultimately benefit them. Having a government that puts up regulations is not addressing the underlying problem of how we collectively decided to create an economy run by the most amoral individuals within our society. That's a fundemental problem with capitalism itself. As long as capitalism remains, there will always be the problem of amoral assholes finding new ways of creating new forms of harm on the general population for increased profitability. Regulations always are in response to harms, rather than preventative of potential harms. Even if we end up deciding to try and create regulations which are pre-emptive, such regulations may be completely unecessisary as they may represent theoretical harms that may have never (or rarely) would occur without them existing. Furthermore, regulations do drive up costs, which only makes drugs even more out of the reach of more people. (drug companies will use any excuse to not just protect profit margins, but to increase them).
@ronpaulrevered
@ronpaulrevered 5 лет назад
For more in this vein of reasoning I recommend Stephan Kinsella's "Against Intellectual Property".
@1337Unlucky
@1337Unlucky 5 лет назад
Here in Mexico we pay taxes and we have healthcare for all. It applies to basic medicine up to especial surgical operations. two weeks ago my mother got a surgery and we dint pay anything (are implicit in the taxes) If you want to know how it works is like this: Every company has the obligation to enlist you to the government in order to receive health care (all workers have that constitutional right) so the company inscribes you in the national healthcare (imss) when you work, from the money you receive, the company grabs about 5% and sends it to the government as a tax from your part that's how you get health care. Also if you are a student, every school and universities have the obligation to register all students and that's free of charge bc education in mexico is also kinda free, the expenses of students healthcare is on the taxes of the citizens.
@deborahhebblethwaite1865
@deborahhebblethwaite1865 5 лет назад
Alex thanks for the info. I live in Canada. You would think the Mexicans would want to build a wall to keep Americans from moving to Mexico with this info. Sorry. Walls are ridiculous
@1337Unlucky
@1337Unlucky 5 лет назад
@@deborahhebblethwaite1865 You are right Deb. I can understand USA exterior policies, Mexico suffers of only two problems: Cartels and corruption. Last year we face elections (presidentials and state governours) and Cartels killed more than 100 candidates, with that you understand that the winners are collided. Even tho we have autonomous institutions there is a huge amount of corruption. Corruption cost us according to national bank : the 10% of our gdp. So this two factors makes Mexico won't advance, it is so stuck in every way: education, science, technology. Everything I've learn of science and technology is thanks to the internet, even English. Also people is stuck in the past, they don't know how a modern world is. Mexican people are very very religious too. Mexico has one of the richest state of Latin-America but also the poorest state of it, that's very odd. That happens because corruption keeps the money from the people and their development. Also our Currency is devaluated, 1 dollar is 20 pesos. so Mexicans prefer go to USA and send money to their families, that money is called "remesa" so they send 33 millions of usadollars per year. That's also the reason you see bunch of Americans spending vacation here, they can afford almost anything. So it is understandable trying to stop mass inmigration (1 million Mexicans goes to USA every year) how ever making a wall it is very stupid. I'm a university student, I live in a nice state and personally I don't see any future for me in this country, I'm graduating this December and I have stress. I really don't know what to do with my life.
@TumbleSensei
@TumbleSensei 5 лет назад
Can't have a monopoly without govenrment threat of force.
@cestlavegan5793
@cestlavegan5793 5 лет назад
I love the way this dude speaks
@dansullivan0
@dansullivan0 5 лет назад
The patent office itself used to do due diligence until they were funded from user fees. The largest fees are not paid by applicants, but by those who get approval. Due diligence costs money, and the more due diligence the patent office does to find "prior art," the less likely it is to grant the patent and collect the fees. This gives the patent office tremendous incentives to grant dubious patents and let private parties challenge the patents in court. As a result, the public interest is horribly underrepresented.
@Gulgathydra
@Gulgathydra 5 лет назад
There are two sides to the argument for high drug prices. On the one hand, from crazy idea to retail a single drug can cost a quarter to a half-billion dollars, and the companies need to recoup that money to develop the next drug, and have a limited time window to do that. The ridiculous profit margins on drugs are there to cover the hidden costs (formulation, testing, approval, patenting, etc.) that competitors don't have to pay -- they only pay for manufacturing the drug. On the other hand, there's stockholder dividends, company jets, political lobbying, and (my favorite): hiding a known secondary use of a drug until the patent is about to expire so that a new patent can be issued (for the 'new' usage), doubling the patent life. This is my favorite because it involves knowingly allowing people -- who could be helped by an "off-book" use of the drug -- to suffer without it or buy it without a prescription (and definitely not insurance), purely to make more money later. The opposite of what the companies claim to be doing.
@kuba2ve
@kuba2ve 5 лет назад
Right! How enlightened I am to understand how that magnificent process works, thanks for that! On the other hand, this is all the result of CAPITALISM and how it productizes absolutely everything in order to obtain a profit. What if the pharmaceutical institutions were financed by governments, as a social program, the same way that NASA is financed? What if the end purpose was only to save human lives and not come up with a stupid patent to prevent others from manufacturing the drug? What if instead of competition, winners and losers, we had collaborations across the whole world? You talk about the symptoms and not the root cause, the root cause is the disgusting capitalism system that has been forced upon all of mankind by the world powers. That is what is fundamentally wrong. Thank you.
@RationalAndFree
@RationalAndFree 5 лет назад
@@kuba2ve right on! Either we can regulated the hell out of everything and put things under some sort of price control mechanisms (like nationalized medicine), or we just address the underlying problem: capitalism and it's perchance to put the most amoral people in control of nearly all money and power.
@RationalAndFree
@RationalAndFree 5 лет назад
Prices in nationalized healthcare factor in all of those costs, plus a 20-30% markup so drug companies remain profitable. That's how EU drug companies survive. The markup you see in the US is the result purely of greed. Drug companies flock to the US not because they can't be profitable elsewhere. They are here precisely because they can rip off people for the most amount of money. I don't think that high profits justify the damage that these companies do to the overall population.
@kuba2ve
@kuba2ve 5 лет назад
​@@RationalAndFree You can realize how fucked up the system is when (based on personal experience) everytime doctors prescribe you something, it is some brand name medication that is waaay more expensive than generics. The pharmaceutical companies entice doctors to prescribe certain medications, so there is a clear conflict of interest between business versus medicine. Doctors sometimes sent you specific brands that have a business relationship with them, rather than offering you some alternative drug with the same ingredients THAT SOMETIMES IS EVEN AVAILABLE OVER THE COUNTER for much lower prices.They are literally RIPPING OFF the american population that in many cases is not aware of these details. But I don't pay a fucking cent more to them!!! Everytime I can find a similar medication with the same ingredients, even in a Dollar Store, or at Amazon, I say to the pharmaceutist at Walgreens "Cancel it! Send it back, I don't want it, is available for cheaper at Amazon!". I have sometimes asked friends from Spain to send me medications from overseas!!! What they are doing here is a FUCKING SCAM. Seriously, I have sometimes found medicines that cost $80+ on Walgreens on Dollar Stores for $1!!!! Unfortunately it doesn't happen always, but you get the idea.
@HappilyIndian
@HappilyIndian 3 года назад
Ayurveda & Yoga = TOTAL HEALING 🕊
@chrysteller7462
@chrysteller7462 2 года назад
May God bless and protect us all
@scotland369
@scotland369 5 лет назад
At 0.38 when he says they ratchet up patents to prevent competition.... YES of course they do. Because why spend 100s Millions in research for another company to rebrand your invention that you spend 100s millions on.
@maxcarter970
@maxcarter970 5 лет назад
So without patents protecting the IP and thus profit from research into new drugs how do you propose we fund the development of new drugs? Of course drug companies will try to extract return on their investment!
@fightfannerd2078
@fightfannerd2078 4 года назад
there are other ways better wsys
@hyouzanren1846
@hyouzanren1846 5 лет назад
they basicly put a price on our life!...where is morality here?...only profit!
@DingoAteMeBaby
@DingoAteMeBaby 5 лет назад
pfffft, have we forgotten profit is the initial of any enterprise?
@chrysteller7462
@chrysteller7462 2 года назад
The Human race has become more vulnerable in many domsins which sciences help or aggravate
@chrysteller7462
@chrysteller7462 2 года назад
Some would say they would have died anyway and some would say their is a reason for not rushing through testing.... In the case of the covid 19 vaccines the urgency of the epifemic crisis justify the rush but what about other illnesses which require less urgency but potentially provide enormous profits for competitive laboratories. ? Scary thoughts. !
@Gothead420
@Gothead420 5 лет назад
Easy answer: By keeping money in politics.
@emancoy
@emancoy 5 лет назад
The good side and the business side, it's like a horse and carriage.
@user-mp2el7ln1n
@user-mp2el7ln1n 3 месяца назад
Who wants to bring back Theodore "trustbuster" Roosevelt to fight big pharma
@bplhtlkkrzlf
@bplhtlkkrzlf Год назад
All healthcare should be non profit
@ChessMasteryOfficial
@ChessMasteryOfficial 5 лет назад
*I cannot discover that anyone knows enough to say what is and what is definitely not possible! :)*
@MsKariSmith
@MsKariSmith 3 года назад
Can someone tell me why, when gov. from many countries have subsidized ( through people's taxes of course) big pharma. so they can come up with vaccines. How is it that they are the owners of the said formulas & can get away with holding people's live as hostage? All in the name of profit. Why don't they, meaning the big pharma. have to pay back the subsidizes before they can make a profit. Plus they should not be the sole owners of the vaccine formulas, it belongs to the taxpayers just as much as all these big pharma. corporations.
@_6666-
@_6666- 3 года назад
NOW THE FARMERS ARE PROTESTING IN INDIA FOR NON GMO OR GMO PLUS HIGHER LABOR TAXES ?
@geoffreyselvage1673
@geoffreyselvage1673 5 лет назад
Great information, but please speak up.
@sanjuansteve
@sanjuansteve 5 лет назад
Capitalism is an anchor on innovation (in addition to our health)!
@chrysteller7462
@chrysteller7462 2 года назад
Domains...typo
@lnostdal
@lnostdal 5 лет назад
0:02 let me guess; government is involved. #muh #regulation
@badzo54321
@badzo54321 5 лет назад
Louder
@WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely
@WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely 5 лет назад
Profits over people in the greatest country in the world?? 🤔🤔🤔
@lnostdal
@lnostdal 5 лет назад
It should and must be profitable to help people in need. Anyone who disagrees with this doesn't want to help anyone; they just want to make themselves look good. #selfish
@WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely
@WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely 5 лет назад
@@lnostdal ....absolutely!! We can't have poor people & their babies getting healthy........for FREE??? Where is the humanity in THAT??
@lnostdal
@lnostdal 5 лет назад
@@WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely Helping poor people is never free; this help can only come from profit -- no matter how you measure it or what the medium carrying it is. People who disagree with this are the true monsters and psychopaths of this world.
@blue_tetris
@blue_tetris 5 лет назад
@@user-so4pr9gs1v Health care isn't scarce anymore. It's been artificially overvalued by financial institutions, like insurance companies, who are more powerful than world governments but receive none of the same oversight.
@_godsl4yer_
@_godsl4yer_ 5 лет назад
Creating drugs is expensive. They need to get that money back and after their rights to the medicine runs out other companies will start selling them for cheaper.
@FinneySP
@FinneySP 4 года назад
Can someone please strong man explain the libertarian angle on this. How do you claim government allowed this when it’s clearly government was paid off to allow this. If there was little government wouldn’t the companies still have this control. It’s money in politics that’s the problem.
@Dhairya_Dj
@Dhairya_Dj 5 лет назад
Patents should be created by Not for Profit Institutions & should incubated in Universities for Research Purposes by Uni Scholars & Faculties. This will allow avoiding patent Monopoly. Also, Sell of Generic Drugs should be Encouraged.
@Soletestament
@Soletestament 5 лет назад
The issue is that drug R&D is extremely expensive. A company might research and develop several dozen new medications only for a couple to actually make it to market. We're talking millions if not billions of dollars wasted on pharmaceutical dead ends every year per company. Which is why they struggle so much to keep drug prices so high. As they're relying on those patents and successes to compensate for all the failed products. It's a truly flawed business model but it'd require a critical look at FDA regulations as well as improvements to scientific practices, to reduce costs and increase competition in the market.
@tyrannosaurhex6132
@tyrannosaurhex6132 5 лет назад
@@Soletestament Expensive R&D is such a poor excuse for the current business model. Do you know that any new antibiotic has not been introduced by pharma companies since 1983. Not to mention the companies refuse to research on what the actual expiry date of a medicine is. All meds come with a expiry of 2-3 years from manufacturing date; while chemical compounds have a half-life which runs into at least hundreds if not thousands of years.
@PANKAJSHARMA-sj9gz
@PANKAJSHARMA-sj9gz 5 лет назад
What is he saying is forcing me to unsubscribe.
@kuma1388
@kuma1388 3 года назад
Democrats shouldn’t complain. If it wasn’t for drugs, no one would vote for them.
@chrysteller7462
@chrysteller7462 2 года назад
Swype control....
@user-sf7og5ke7p
@user-sf7og5ke7p 3 года назад
Just Disgusting GREED!!!
@vladm.6859
@vladm.6859 5 лет назад
Free my man martin shkreli
@safeeffective385
@safeeffective385 3 года назад
Thank God they don't do this anymore! (huge yawn)
@Jordan-df6ps
@Jordan-df6ps 3 года назад
TAKE DOWN BIG FARMER
@myragold3213
@myragold3213 Год назад
Pharmaceutical - not Farmer 🤦🏼‍♀️
@Jordan-df6ps
@Jordan-df6ps Год назад
@@myragold3213 sounds like you're defending big farmer...
@stevebetance116
@stevebetance116 5 лет назад
Simple...GREED ! ! !
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