HOW BLACK ADAM KILLED THE DCEU 

when dr fate was about to sacrifice himself and says that he sees nothing in the future for him i was literally in the theater like "this has no right to be in this movie. its too good."

You can tell the "failure" of Black Adam has had an effect on Dwayne Johnson, with him wanting to remake Moana and even returning to Fast & Furious.

If your entire franchise lives and dies on the shoulders of one character or movie, you did not build your foundations correctly.

Dwayne Johnson is so much of a narcissist that i guarantee you that leading up to the release of this movie, he thought to himself, "Yeah, this gonna make at least a billion."

He wanted this to be his Terminator role. But Black Adam wasn’t nearly hard core enough. Rock tried turning the character into a sympathetic anti hero. Can’t have both. Black Adam being someone who kills his enemies does not have the impact Rock wants it to have since 95% of Marvel’s and 90% of the DCEU heroes all kill

The Rock truly illustrates how fortunate Arnold was to work with directors that were not only visionaries but also did not take any bullshit from prima donnas. Just look at how the iconic 'I'll be back' from Terminator would have never come up if it was up to Arnold but Cameron told him to stick to his lane.

This movie killed the DCEU? I thought it was practically already dead. Especially when WB was already planning on rebooting DC anyway

You might as well finish this quasi Shazam trilogy by talking about Fury of the Gods. That movie was certinally affected by the Rock's control over the BA character and then there's Zachary Levi's rivalry with Johnson.

The Rock’s biggest problem is himself. He’s a huge star, but he surrounds himself with no-name talent. He doesn’t work with huge directors, and his costars are either past their prime or unknowns, for the most part. He doesn’t want anyone around who can challenge him, push him, demand more from him. To quote Bane, victory has defeated him. For a guy who is so busy, he’s incredibly lazy from a creative standpoint. He was counting on this to be his retirement plan. He’s in his 50s now, and with all the sequels and shit this was supposed to generate, it would’ve kept him busy into his 60s. His time as an action star is fading. He’s closer to the end of his career than the beginning, and now that this plan to take over DC has failed, he’s running back to Moana, donating money to the actor strike to rehab his image and look good again, and pretending everything is fine. People aren’t paying for mediocrity anymore. That Red Notice movie was supposed to be a theatrical release with Universal, but they read the script, realized it was shit, and dumped the movie. He had to scamper off to Netflix to get it made, where we don’t have real numbers about how it did. If that was released in theaters, with that budget, it would’ve tanked. He’s bland, basic, and overrated. In 20 years, no one will be watching his shitty movies. They’ll be watching Terminator, Rambo, and Die Hard.

Black Adam didn't kill the DCEU it just failed to save it.

The fact we aren't getting that animated Shazam movie as a WrestleMania style event film is sad. Zachary Levi + Henry Cavill vs Dwayne Johnson should have been a no brainer to make. I blame Johnson's ego on this. He makes it in his contracts to never lose fights. So he would not allow people to make him the punching bag of two heroes. Black Adam is Shazam's arch enemy not Superman. People only put these two together because Adam can take Supes in a fight. I actually did like Black Adam for what it tried to do. Seeing the Justice Society was great but I wish the evil government ruling over Khandaq was the villains. Maybe give the leader a suit made of Eternium since it hurt Adam at the beginning. I was expecting that to be used against him, not a demon lord. The Shazam franchise was a huge waste of potential.

Na Vee. The Rock was essentially playing the same role he always does. He did the least he could possibly do and we shouldn’t congratulate him for it.

I feel bad for Henry Cavill over all. It's clear the only reason to make a Black Adam solo movie was to give The Rock his own comic book movie, because no one was clamoring for a Black Adam solo movie. Personally, I've never gotten into any of The Rock's solo film vehicles, even the best ones are mid. He's never gotten a role that has matched the charisma of his Attitude Era WWF persona, and that sucks.

wouldn't affect the overall movie but I think it would've been cool if both Superman and Shazam were in the end credit scene. Shazam often needs help fighting Black Adam so it's true to the character. I'm sure a live action fight between the 3 would be messy to choreograph but it would've been worth it... or a cgi mess

Isn't that The Rock's m.o.? He's tried to hijack many franchises (The Mummy, GI Joe, The Fast & The Furious, and now The DCEU.)

Damn Im really surprised you found the Rock's acting a highlight of the movie, I thought he was terrible.

He’s the problem in comics he’s a villain period, and is Shazam’s villain. He shouldn’t be a anti hero and he’s not allowed to lose in his movies which makes it suck. And he wants to be seen as a strong character before he gets too old. And him wanting Superman to be his villain is stupid

Black Adam without Shazam was their first fatal mistake.

Vee not giving us that hour long The Flash video and the aforementioned complete DCEU Snyderverse video would be the greatest injustice he could inflict on all of us Veetards. Vegenerates? Idk, I'm still mourning the loss of Keaton and the best live action Supergirl we ever had and barely got to see. 😢

Dwayne is like that kid who invites you over to watch them play with their own toys.😅 He wanted to see his character fight Superman rather than his actual nemesis, SHAZAM A.K.A CAPTAIN MARVEL.

Dr. Fate was WAY underutilized and even more under powered. Dr. Fate is A BEAST.

Black Adam would have fit into the 2000's superhero movie scene nicely. It's not a bad movie, but it is if it's supposed to be your universe saver. I hope James Gunn can turn the ship around!

The Berlanti-verse sums up my complaint about this movie. At its peak, the BV was propped up equally by Arrow and The Flash. Tonally, each show had diametrically opposed motifs. Arrow was dark, broody, and almost exclusively existed under the cover of night... while The Flash was bright, fun, and was lit by the noon day sun. But where Arrow and Flash got it right during their crossovers, was where Black Adam face planted. When they'd crossover, they pick one of the motifs and commit to it. Black Adam vascilated back and forth between the two, light and gloomy. Under-developing both

We just need the rock back in wrestling that’s when I loved him the most lol

Making almost $400 million from a movie about a non mainstream character without a china release is pretty good honestly I wouldn’t call it a flop

No lie rock ego ruined the dceu by tryna face Superman instead of Shazam I still thought the movie was okay but if u would’ve seen Shazam in the cameo I felt it would’ve made a better intro for black Adam to be introduced to fight billy💯

While the Only Good Things about this Movie is Doctor Fate, Hawkman, and Dwayne Johnson is doing something Different than his usual Routine, the Bad Outweighs the Good, because of Terrible Choices by WB and Dwayne Johnson did, It Tainted the Shazam Lore,was the Final Straw for the DCEU Films and the Snyderverse, the Characters are Dryer than Sandpaper, the Special Effects looked Incomplete at Times, shows that making Pure Evil Villains into Antiheroes isn’t working anymore, and it makes us believe Henry Cavill was Flying back as Superman but in Actuality it was Fan Bait that was Prematurely brought Early Sinking Us in Deep Disappointment,WB and the Rock Clearly had No Idea what DC needed,Not what their Selfish Desires wanted it to Be, this needed to be a JSA Film.

What I hate is that The Rock, the wrestler, was one of the most charismatic, charming, and appealing heels in sports entertainment. It's good he took a challenging role, but he should have been able to use that to bring a better energy to the role. Dwayne's "I wanna fight Superman" is pure WWE brainrot. It's two contradictory goals. On one hand, he wants to play Stone Cold. On the other hand, he wants to recreate Rock vs Cena. Those cannot be combined.

I was talking about DC with my brother recently and he dropped the bombshell of "Batman is carrying DC" which didn't sound like much to me at the moment because I was like...Well yeah, but then I had to stop and think about what the last DC movie was that I liked, so I was like Well The Batman was pretty good...and...The Joker...And uuuh...Well, the Dark Knight Trilogy was pretty great. I genuinely could not think of another DC movie, at least off the top of my head that was like a "Wow thats good!" Sorta movie. I liked Wonder woman and enjoyed Shazam but not as movies that I'd ever really revisit. Whereas the Batman I pretty much watched again right after, and don't even know how many times I watched Dark Knight trilogy. It sucks because there are a lot of cool characters and even a lot of the actors they got for them are great, I don't think you could get a better person than Henry Cavil as Superman. On top of the cliff dive Marvel has been doing, it would be nice for a more grounded, gritty superhero genre to take off.

The heirarchy of DC universe did change as he foretold 😂🤷‍♂️

Damn, I forgot about all those extra people. I only remembered Black Atom, that little boy, and his Uncle. I remembered no one else. Dang.

You do have some Strong points when you're talking about this movie and I agree with you on some things. This IS a Good movie and I enjoyed it, I honestly like this way that Black Adam came to be instead of the comic version I hope that we (or at least I) come to see more of this Black Adam in the movies than the comic version. It would be Cool to see how he goes up against Superman, Batman and others If they have Flash, they should have Grant's Flash instead of Miller's Flash (I saw that movie and TV Flash is way better).

I thought it was good. I think Black adam shouldve appeared in the Shazam 2 movie first and then this movie. I wish the other jsa characters had been in it like jay garrick flash and others.

I think the biggest issue with the DCEU is that it lacks all the connective tissue that keeps DC Comics from sucking usually. And that's also the problem with the New 52. Plopping the JSA in like this just is another perfect reason it doesn't work. Imagine if we'd had a JSA trilogy. First movie is pre-WW2. Second movie is the trilogy's Empire Strikes Back, somewhat. The JSA wins by stopping the Nazis from winning, but also Hitler gets the Spear of Destiny and no longer can the JSA fight in the war. The third movie is post-war and covers the Fall of the JSA at the hands of Ragnarok and McCarthy.

Wait woah, Rock has played plenty of serious character types before. Scorpion King, Hobbs from Fast Five, Gridiron Gang, I forgot the characters name but in Doom to name a few.

The DCEU was never really alive to begin with.

When you find out sabbac is played by jafar from the live action Aladdin movie. He plays a red cgi character here too

First Act is pretty good. Second Act is...alright, but a bit generic. Third Act is a trainwreck. Hawkman and Doctor Fate should have had some history with Black Adam, especially Hawkman who is supposed to be a reincarnation of an ancient Egyptian alien and not a discount Iron Man. The villain could have been the same King from the very beginning (now just magically immortal) rather than some identical descendant, giving Adam more of a vendetta (or he could have not been there at all). And of course, Dwayne should have bitten the bullet and made Black Adam into a full fledged bad guy, especially since the whole "heroes don't kill people" thing is a bit shallow in the DCEU, where Aqauman, Wonder Woman and Batman kill goons left, right and centre. (plus, bring in Shazam, dammit Dwayne!)

Want is Worse is this movie has be in development for over 10 years. Yes, before Man of steel or Batman v Superman. For a film that was 10 years in the making. This is bi-polar, it as some fresh and new ideas mix with early 2000's superhero movies and what you you end up with is a mixed bag of a Film.

no, i'm pretty sure the one with blood on his hands is david zaslav

Dr. Fate is the best and maybe the only good thing about this movie

First time we get to see these heroes too on a big screen and they're just like underwhelming cameos.

"A rock? That is no rock." I actually liked the movie... and I don't exactly think that it "ruined" the DCEU... that was done long ago at this point, by Hamada, Johns, and probably numerous other figureheads at WB/DC. However, Dwayne DID put way too much stock in his star power and how much leverage that has given him in the movie industry. But the movie itself? Black Adam being an "anti-hero" isn't without precedent... he even fought alongside the JSA at one point, becoming good friends with Jay Garrick in particular. So... anyway, I liked the movie. But you make several valid points, too. You always do, Vee. And I will say... they killed.off Kent Nelson way too early. Dr. Fate had SO MUCH material to contribute to the Snyderverse moving forward... oh, wait. Nevermind.

I think you really are so wrong. The thing is the Rock want to make a villain an anti hero on his own story leaving the real hero and protagonist of the story,Shazam out of it.

Soo,you making a video on that twisted metal show? It was surprisingly good.

Talk about King Of The Hill, please.

Saying Black Adam killed the DCEU is like saying dropping the corpse off a building killed the dead man.

Bruh if you don't give brosnan his flowers...

5000 years of rest? Rita Repulsa's nap was twice as long 🤪

I liked Hawkman in this movie. And his boy scout persona.

The DCEU was already dead. Black Adam was a hail mary play to save it.

Black Adam and Shazam Fury of the Gods should have been combined not the same movie. Both films had insane potential ad good ideas but both kind fumbles the final results. But I think taking what worked about both films and throw them together into one you might have the recipe for something truly special.

“The Passion of The Rock”. Now that’s a movie I’d pay to see.

You know you’ve messed up when 3 of the superpowered characters in the film have ties to ancient Egypt and only one them gets to talk about that.

I enjoy your video essays very much. They are very well put together and articulate. 💯

Good video, but one important correction: It's Pierce Brosnan, Pierce Brosnan played Dr. Fate.

Why didnt Dr fate have eyes? I couldn't get past that Also, if he doesn't have the Helmut on, he is no longer fate. That's how it works.

I just watched this movie today and yeah you were right in everything in this video. It was rushed, poorly executed, and underutilized characters. I enjoyed it and I wish or hope it can get a sequel

Black Adam didn't kill the DCEU. The DCEU up to that point was already dead. The movie that did that was BvS: Dawn of Martha and the over 50 percent second weekend BO drop it had. I know people personally who said they're not gonna bother watching another DCEU movie because they were so disappointed with BvS. Considering the BO returns for the DCEU movies (Bar Aquaman) a lot of the general movie going audiences were too. Imagine making a Batman and Superman movie, and that movie makes less than what a Captain Marvel and Black Panther movie does. That's not a reflection on the MCU, that's a reflection of how badly WB, Snyder botched those early DCEU movies. It's no coincidence that Joker and The Batman, two movies outside the DCEU are the only two DC movies that are loved by critics and fans. Here's hoping James Gunn and Peter Safran can wash away the stench the DCEU has had these past ten years.

I actually liked the movie,to me it was just a superhero movie no more no less.

Good Riddance to the DCEU I won't miss it at all

For me you can’t have black adam without shazam like you can’t have venom without spiderman. I think ego got in the way and the rock wanted the spotlight to himself but both films would have been better if him and shazam combined

I dont understand why black atom was picked in the first place for the rock other than the fact he kinda looked like him. Black atom isnt that popular of a character to make a movie for let alone a whole universe

I was SO FREAKING EXCITED for this movie! Then when I was watching the first 20 minutes of this movie I was like oh my God this is horrible! And it turned out to be an absolutely horrible movie

Black Adam should not be made a scapegoat for the other clear issues of DCEU. Nobody and I mean NOBODY kept shit on track over there. Everyone just showed up and go to run away with whatever idea they had. A shared universe needs to feel connected.

@Vee Infuso hey man I have a good topic of a video ... what do you think would Bruce Wayne have a social media if he was really living among us? I would like to know opinion on that ... as a video? please?

Black Adam made nearly $400 Million in theaters alone and sold very well on VOD....Not really a flop.

I think the day the DCEU died was the day WB said "let's copy Marvel but skip all that planning and set up".

My biggest issue with the movie is that Black Adam could have been a terminator 2 movie … but what was lacking is the focus and a well done “father-protector” relationship between the machine and the boy. The movie should have kept closer to terminator 2 plot points and beats … it had too much noise instead.

Dang man that's cold, I Iove Shazam

15:19 Dude who tf is "Pierce Bronson" 😂😂😂😂

We are listening to our hearts ❤and deep down in our Soul that we would do anything to keep protect love care save and fight for what we all love ❤

I understand the idea of "click bait," but this video really had nothing to do with its title.

I watched the movie with my brother once it hit HBOmax and our reaction could be summed up as "That was alright!" and i'm sorry but if you movie can be resumed to that then i think you were barely trying.

He shouldn’t become a hero he’s supposed to be a bad guy the rock was in control of the whole character which is why he’s a “hero” he’s not strong he’s weak (the rock) not wanting to ever look weak in his movies

His catch phrase should have been " the name is Black, Adam Black"😂

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No offense to Superhero movies, I’ve loved them for a very long time, but I think we can all agree that it’s about time to retire them for a bit to make room for other movie genres to shine.

I tried watching this movie but the kid got on my nerves so bad I couldn’t finish it.

The dceu died when Johnathan Kent told young Clark he should have let a bunch of children drown then made him and Martha watch him die.

If only Black Adam could beat that Bird Man. Honestly the only character that was worth liking is Dr Fate

So y’all telling me the DCEU wasn’t already failing before Black Adam? 😂 Man y’all so cap it’s funny.

Changing it from he murdered his nephew for his power to he died protecting his family was not a good idea. It was changed because the rock didn't want to be presented that way most likely, but whatever the reason these idiots not being able to stick to the source material when it is already a perfect format, is a big part of the reason that their movies always suck.

"A Rock?!? That is no Rock!"

There is no specific actor, character or movie that killed the dceu. Instead it's the inability of the producers, studio, writers and directors to latch on to a specific game plan and see it into fruition instead of getting nervous and insecure, second guessing themselves and bailing out. Fans would have been much happier with mediocre yet complete saga, than just a bad half-baked one.

Black Adam didn’t kill the DCEU, WB did that since 2016 when they botched SS1 & BvS. And why didn’t they make movies in 2014 & 2015?

Great video. This movie had good actors, good CGI, good budget. But this movie clearly had 7 different scripts mashed into one incoherent story. Why wasn’t Justice Society helping these poor people before this? How could Black Adam speak English? Why was there a Wakanda like powerful rock that can hurt Black Adam and have it never come up again? These and more questions were clearly answered in the 7 scripts they got them from but left out here

I don't plan on watching the movie, however, I do agree it could have been a much better movie with atleast 3 sequels

LOVED BLACK ADAM!!!

Heard the rock tried a "coup" type take over at Warner Brothers. And they got pissed. Just a rumor but an interesting one

Bro a full snyderverse retrospective would be so good

The film should be rename as “Dwayne ‘the adam’ johnson featuring DC The Movie extended cut remastered”

“A Rock? That is no Rock”

Nobody's going to break our family because we don't have fear

DECU movies sucked before black Adam was even announced

We are all in with ZACK SNYDER Deborah Snyder Chris Terrio ZSJL cast members David Ayer Christopher Nolan Jim Lee and BLACK ADAM 1,000 percent with heart ❤and Soul

Black Adam didn't kill the Synderverse. Synder killed it. He couldn't understand the characters or comic universe.

If you think Dwayne Johnson was doing something different with this role to are high sir.

The pace? That is not your biggest issue. You mention the character work. That is really the issue. Take Teth Adam. How does he learn english, why does he care about some people but not others? Why is he protecting some and killing others? Why does he give up his power after saving a life? Does he suddenly feel guilty or unworthy for not saving his family? Is a pep talk enough for him to get over it? What happened to inter gang?

This one I disagree with you on. I really didn’t think it was good at all.