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How Black Clover SURPASSED My Hero Academia (Explained) 

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This video explains how the Black Clover manga has surpassed My Hero Academia 👀
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Ok so for those of you watching who have no idea what happened in either series I’m gonna do a very quick recap. In My Hero Academia the UA traitor was revealed to be Aoyama, after his parents were caught loudly talking about it in the forest. If they’d been whispering instead then its possible they never would’ve been found out, but in this case Invisible Girl overheard their conversation. Soon afterwards the family were arrested, but within just 2 chapters, it was decided that Aoyama wouldn’t be expelled, and his classmates had all chosen to forgive him. The reason for this was that although he’d betrayed them and nearly gotten them all killed, he only did these things because All For One was threatening his family. In that way, Aoyama was actually a victim, meaning the others didn’t see him as a bad person. By contrast, in Black Clover the traitor was revealed to be the Wizard King Julius, who turned out to be the mastermind behind the dark triad. The dark triad have essentially been the main villains of this manga for the last couple years but in reality, Julius is their older brother and his real name is Lucius Zogratis. This twist was easily one of the most surprising moments of the entire series, and it was so well executed, that even though I had predicted it might happen 6 months earlier, the reveal still caught me completely off guard. In order to explain why that is we’re about to examine the 4 key elements that make an effective traitor reveal in my opinion, the first of those elements being trust.
Thanks to Julius' internal monologues, he’d proven consistently that his main goal was to end discrimination in the clover kingdom, and to achieve that mission he often showed kindness to people who were outcasts in society. Whereas most nobles only cared about their own social class, Julius was the only one who believed in the potential of all humans, regardless of whether they were a peasant or not. As wizard king he then took steps that lead to his dream becoming more of a reality and when it came down to it, he was willing to die to ensure the progress they made wasn’t lost. Although it’s true that he did have a backup plan to bring himself back to life, one important detail about that is that even he wasn’t sure if it would work, so as far as Julius knew he was about to die for good. eVERYTHING considered, the wizard king is a character who had gained the trust of the audience and judging from chapter 331, Julius himself genuinely didn’t even know he was the traitor. Rather his character seems to be a pawn of Lucius in a comparable way to how Aoyama is a pawn of all for one, but the key difference here is that Julius is someone we trusted, which made his reveal more surprising.
When it comes to Aoyama, for most of the series we rarely ever heard what he was thinking, we barely knew anything about his backstory until recently, and his behaviour was easily the most suspect among class 1a. If you had asked any my hero fans who among class 1a was most likely to be the traitor, the usual answer was either him or invisible girl, because neither had given us a real reason to trust them. Aoyama in particular was described by Deku as a loner who doesn’t go out his way to make friends and unlike the main characters, his motivations in life were unclear. Despite being on the hero course his conviction was lacking compared to the other kids, partly demonstrated by how easily he was prepared to give up during the hero licence exam. Of course that’s not to say that he’s not been heroic at all, because more often than not he does eventually do the right thing, but the point I’m making is that until recently, we never saw inside his head and therefore never knew what was driving him.

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@TurtleQuirk
@TurtleQuirk 2 года назад
Interested to see thoughts on this, which series do you think had the better reveal? 🤔 Socials: TWITTER - twitter.com/turtlequirk Instagram - instagram.com/turtle.quirk/
@TheReaIestOne
@TheReaIestOne 2 года назад
I don't know why but you forgot to mention the foreshadowing of Julius in opening 2 of BC.
@mangamandrew
@mangamandrew 2 года назад
The thing is about the execution of the reveal, why would they use their inside voices when they are outside in the middle of the forests? It’s like you are wanting to call someone for help inside your house but use your quiet voice instead. *Edit* Also, we do get some more inner and outer monologue from Aoyama during the provisional licenses exam arc about his dream and wanting to feel equal.
@hanzo1365
@hanzo1365 2 года назад
Julius twitst is more comparable to dabi twist for me
@wsp-im-maurice8713
@wsp-im-maurice8713 2 года назад
The traitors reveal was already supposed to happen long ago. The Japanese fandom is why horokoshi took ages to reveal it.
@roxtechs
@roxtechs 2 года назад
What happened.
@koro3855
@koro3855 2 года назад
@@roxtechsJapanese fans didnt enjoy the villains so he had to change things to not get cut and to keep sales up
@sgtmarcusharris4260
@sgtmarcusharris4260 2 года назад
@Roxtechs Yeah Japanese fans really fucking hate the villains. Mha sales tanked like mad when hori mearley hinted they were coming to the camp so that entire stretch after they arrived was him rushing to get back to the heroes to boost sales.
@saadplays8214
@saadplays8214 2 года назад
@@sgtmarcusharris4260 so that's why the training camp arc is so rushed and short?
@xxxyuukixxx0
@xxxyuukixxx0 2 года назад
@@saadplays8214 most likely the reason
@Youzhi.
@Youzhi. 2 года назад
i think there is more to julius/lucius i think the reason noelles mother died was because of him too. her mother was at a hidden place and i think lucius revealed the place to vanica.and teleportation magic only works on places you were once so why was zenon at the golden dawn base . and why did dante knew where the hideout from the black bulls were and why did julius place them so close to the spade kingdom . i think julius unconsciously told the dark triad were they need to go
@Kuro_Des
@Kuro_Des Год назад
we dont know how all spatial magic works we have only heard that from fineral
@sageblast3143
@sageblast3143 2 года назад
See heres the thing : MHA gave away the fact that there is a traitor in 1-A right around Season 2 ( Nezus discussion) so we expected one of either Aoyama , Momo , Hagakure , Kirishima or Shoji to be one. This was Black Clover's 3rd traitor reveal ( Purple orcas captain and Vangeance) and naturally people assumed that after Partry or Patouli ( depends on which version you read) , Tabata was done away with traitors since again people started comparing aspects of BC to some of Narutos earlier plotlines. Again a certain section did assume Julius to be the traitor right after the captain's meeting and the reveal of Luciferos element , it didn't hold weight till the 4th Zogratis sibling was revealed in Zenons flashback.
@lenoreyt
@lenoreyt 2 года назад
I saw the title and I was boutta say stop the cap but honestly you right about the traitor reveal turtle it was really anticlimactic and lackluster while the Julius one was out of nowhere and executed so well
@chrishardin9774
@chrishardin9774 2 года назад
To bad mha quality isn’t solely defined by the traitor reveal
@lenoreyt
@lenoreyt 2 года назад
@@chrishardin9774 facts. MHA is definitely imo the better anime/manga in general
@ArcaellusV427
@ArcaellusV427 2 года назад
@@chrishardin9774 Yea, I agree the traitor reveal in BC was much better but overall I think I prefer my hero.
@saadplays8214
@saadplays8214 2 года назад
Nah the MHA traitor reveal was better. The fact that we knew there's a traitor, we all made theories and we came to the conclusion it's hagakure only for horikoshi to reveal that it's not her was absolutely amazing writing and in Hindsight it makes sense that aoyama was the traitor
@jalilsalomon5587
@jalilsalomon5587 2 года назад
@@lenoreyt Damn your opinion is very wrong
@eden.e8863
@eden.e8863 Год назад
I’m an anime only watcher for both… to find out MHA FINALLY revealed the traitor?? Like bro i literally forgot the traitor exists. Remember when we were all tryna solve that puzzle? Idk why it would be left so long into the futurr to the point were no one talked about it anymore..
@JCloudsAnimeTalk
@JCloudsAnimeTalk 2 года назад
This was definitely an unexpected one 👀
@TurtleQuirk
@TurtleQuirk 2 года назад
🤣
@Salemwaaa
@Salemwaaa 2 года назад
Dawg I remember when people thought Hagakure was the traitor and people were MAD but the bait and switch was done great for MHA I think Black Clover did it alot better.
@turkepic3637
@turkepic3637 Год назад
Black Clover and My Hero are very different. While with My Hero , every season my enjoyment drops , (Except my Villain Arc , there's actually some character there , but it's rushed into one arc.) With every arc of Black Clover my enjoyment grew. Characters wise , there's literally no competition. Black Clover wins. I don't even think most people remember what powers half of class 1-A had , or their names. Meanwhile I literally will never forget any members of the Black Bulls. And there are SO MANY other unforgettable side characters.
@Thedoorway123
@Thedoorway123 Год назад
Lmao bias asf
@turkepic3637
@turkepic3637 Год назад
@@Thedoorway123 Good argument
@Thedoorway123
@Thedoorway123 Год назад
@Turkepic yes its very bias just forgets about the villains who for the most part carry for the characters along with the 3 musketeers the obvious main focus character wise are the villains which make mha unique
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
i personally dont agree i think mha has better writing,mc,villain ect but do think the black clover traitors reveal was done better
@devfakeplus
@devfakeplus 2 года назад
i give you the villain point, but all the other points goes to BC.
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@devfakeplus agree at disagree bud
@angelinafino6316
@angelinafino6316 2 года назад
@@AgentNero9 mha simp
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@angelinafino6316 am sorry is that i perfer mha over black clover i love both i just perfer mha
@jims2531
@jims2531 2 года назад
@@AgentNero9 MHA writing - too slow, 3 seasons and they're still in their 2nd yr of school (lack of time skip). I think they have too many class training episodes that were not so important to the plot which i think the main reason why the pacing in MHA were so slow. And its hard to imagine that theyre still in 1st year and they already fighting some of the main villains. MC/Side characters - too many characters from class A to class B to other schools and most of the time they only focuses on DEKU, BAKUGO, TODOROKI and Glass guy. Villain - Good villians, the final boss is pretty much establish from the beginning which for me is good so we know what the MC need to achieved in order to fight the final boss. BLACK CLOVER Writing - not too slow but not too fast either, The worldbuilding is great and you'll see the main characters go from place to place like from hidden dungeon, to main city, witch forest , underwater temple. In short they don't stretch the mini arc for so long and move on the next and that's why black clover is getting better and better as the story goes on. MC/Side characters - well develop characters, you'll be attached to every members of the black bulls, even Buha (BWHA) has character development. even though BC has ton of characters, Tabata manages them to give development/screentime. And NOELLE best female main character at least in Shonen. Villains - MEH but currently tabata is improving his character writing of villains I like MHA over BC before but if you watch/read the two of them, youll definitely see one is improving and one is not. So BC is better.. IMAGINE IF BC has the animation quality of MHA?
@sageblast3143
@sageblast3143 2 года назад
For those wondering : The title is a clickbait What he means is how Black Clover handled a traitor reveal better than MHA.
@zigazdovc6175
@zigazdovc6175 2 года назад
It is not a clickbait. Clickbait means that you are stretching the truth or making up stuff to get more views, there was 0 misinformation in the title, because BC surpassed MHA quite while ago.
@Josh-md1bc
@Josh-md1bc Год назад
Very strongly Not clickbait. I can’t think of a single reason why my hero has a chance of going up against my hero except that it’s slightly longer. But my hero doesn’t do anything with that length.
@amongimposter
@amongimposter Год назад
cope
@mbs4167
@mbs4167 6 месяцев назад
@@Josh-md1bcyou mean black clover since you accidentally said my hero going up against my hero
@ThatBoiDarius_
@ThatBoiDarius_ 2 года назад
Tbh I’ve been feeling like ever since the end of The Deku retrieval arc My hero has felt very rushed in a lot of areas and just wants to get to the end as soon as possible which I can understand Hori doing it since he’s most likely burnt out by now but it’s still pretty sad when you think about it
@jeffreyali1456
@jeffreyali1456 2 года назад
It had so many problems, but I can still understand where Horikoshi is coming from. If anything he needs a long break/hiatus now more than ever
@andreasazehaf1602
@andreasazehaf1602 2 года назад
Nah mha is still better
@Kings-dt5et
@Kings-dt5et 11 месяцев назад
Ur drunk
@CommonSence_
@CommonSence_ 9 месяцев назад
Hell No Sir
@cotacachi12
@cotacachi12 2 года назад
I just want MHA to have a proper ending really... that's it. I just speed read the chapters at this point. It's not bad it's just not nearly as good as it's peak arcs 😭
@Thelonedrifter
@Thelonedrifter 8 месяцев назад
Small detail with Julius/Lucius being a traitor, Lucius was like patry along for the ride until he found it necessary to show himself and later revealed that unlike patry, he killed Lucius
@pride7052
@pride7052 2 года назад
You know why? Because Black Clover's community is way more tame than MHA's. The anime is known as the community it keeps.
@achilles112
@achilles112 2 года назад
MHA fans are special ed bro I've never seen such horrendous fans before 💀
@KeybladeKnight14
@KeybladeKnight14 2 года назад
Yes the comments section in this video proves so.
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
not to be rude but how does the fandoms have to do anything
@fham4789
@fham4789 2 года назад
@@AgentNero9 it’s because the fan base basically forced hori to change how the aoyama reveal was going to happen
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@fham4789 oh i didnt know that but how did they force him out of curiosity
@fizzysigma
@fizzysigma 2 года назад
mha negs imo
@Josh-md1bc
@Josh-md1bc Год назад
In what world? Lucius’s world??
@fizzysigma
@fizzysigma Год назад
@@Josh-md1bc this was 4 months ago my bad g, bc betta
@ProtocolAbyss
@ProtocolAbyss Год назад
@@fizzysigma he has seen the light
@abcd-by2ni
@abcd-by2ni Месяц назад
Stop lying to yourself 😂
@fizzysigma
@fizzysigma Месяц назад
@@abcd-by2ni obnoxious fuck replying to my comment that was made 2 yrs ago 💀🙏
@Josh-md1bc
@Josh-md1bc Год назад
Black Clover’s traitor reveal was god level. Nobody hated it or thought it was mediocre. The traitor revela in my hero literally fragmented the community for at least 2 weeks because of how bad the pay off was. The characters in black clover clover are a million times better than my hero and I don’t see how anyone can disagree. Noelle> Uraraka Asta> Deku Yuno> Bakugou Yami> All might Lucious>>> All for one The only reason people put black clover down to this day is because of how similar it was said to be to Naruto originally by the haters. But that same argument can be applied to almost any other new Gen battle manga. I’ve always thought black clover would be much better than my hero, but now they are incomparable. I can’t go a week without being caught up to BC while with MHA I could easily drop a month here or there and still feel like nothing has changed. Deku getting his additional quirks was absurd. Traitor reveal was bad. Making all might insignificant was wild. Having boring side characters that are always overshadowed by the main character is crazy. Bakugo’s DOUBLE revival is insanity. Deku feeling like he can’t be worn down and his power scaling out of no where- WILD. You can make small little claims about why Black clover doesn’t hit here or there like Lucifero as a villain being pretty mediocre in characterization, but the pay off to the end of the arc which took like less than 8 chapters was way more satisfactory than the 50+ latest chapters we’ve had of just random events happening in my hero. It feels like horokoshi clearly lacks a direction in storytelling right now, because the peak of his story has already been told- while tabata just CONTINUES to foreshadow things week by week. The writing is incomparable.
@Ribbean
@Ribbean 2 года назад
where is dodirty at
@imjay1788
@imjay1788 2 года назад
Did it really?
@Darkblazer789
@Darkblazer789 2 года назад
Man Black clover and MHA manga are becoming crazy day by day
@jeffreyali1456
@jeffreyali1456 2 года назад
MHA not so much except for a few moments
@Darkblazer789
@Darkblazer789 2 года назад
@@jeffreyali1456 yep
@kelmavide9697
@kelmavide9697 2 года назад
Just say it’s your opinion and I will accept it done ✅
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
Its just facts
@maxlau1622
@maxlau1622 2 года назад
@@blackclover20 Clearly it isn't. Way more people like Mha over Bc, sales and viewership already say as much. It's better in every aspect.
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
@@maxlau1622 except for its characters and world building. U can't really say it based solely on viewership and sales bruh, that's like saying demon slayer is better than HxH cause it hv higher sales bruh.
@maxlau1622
@maxlau1622 2 года назад
@@blackclover20 I'm using sales and viewership to say clearly it's not "facts" that bc is better than mha. Clearly people think otherwise. To me personally, I think mha clears bc by miles, but I'm using something that isn't biased like sales and viewership to demonstrate that many people have that preference considering they are running in the same timeframe, the same magazine, and cater to the same audiences.
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
@@maxlau1622 and im using the same logic to say that demon slayer is better than HxH since it hv higher sales and viewership.
@Geijin1
@Geijin1 Год назад
Also half the mha side cast is the most forgettable thing ever so we never get that impact of Aoyama getting revealed
@ManfredsCave
@ManfredsCave Год назад
bro this auto played in the background of me studying and just spoiled some huge things :C
@Human4160
@Human4160 2 года назад
Make a new next generation in mha please
@mohammadmustafa875
@mohammadmustafa875 2 года назад
Finally!! I've been waiting for a black Clover video for so long
@bigbro5290
@bigbro5290 2 года назад
I really disagree with this but oh well, w opinion tho.
@bigbro5290
@bigbro5290 2 года назад
nvm it's abt the traitor reveal..
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@bigbro5290 yeah imo mhas better but black clover did the traitor reveal better
@bigbro5290
@bigbro5290 2 года назад
@@AgentNero9 fr
@Kings-dt5et
@Kings-dt5et 11 месяцев назад
Mha season one was fire thats all it had going for to black clover is way better
@JustAnotherGamer85
@JustAnotherGamer85 Год назад
For me Black Clover was always the better show.
@mrkaji8913
@mrkaji8913 2 года назад
Their was a guy in black clover that has the dub voice of deku
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283 2 года назад
I have to be honest, I enjoy Black Clover more than My Hero Academia at this moment, MHA is better than Black clover in many ways actually, but for some reason I felt this last arc very rushed and suffocating at the same time (too much going on). Black clover in other hands have a much better pace and more epic moment, also the message of the author remain the same through the whole series.
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
Except for the character dev cause man the characters suck.
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283 2 года назад
@@blackclover20 you mean MHA or Black Clover characters?
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
@@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283 mha bruh
@jeffreyali1456
@jeffreyali1456 2 года назад
Some parts I think MHA does better than BC, other parts BC does better, but my god the final act for MHA is just problematic as hell.
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@blackclover20 i am unsuprised that you would say that You have "black clover" as your username Both series are pretty great and there mangas are too Its just the toxic fanbase that pisses me off
@harley3445
@harley3445 2 года назад
I agree Black Clover did it better.
@FazeTsu
@FazeTsu 2 года назад
Lmaoooo now y’all finally realize it ?? BC has been better
@FazeTsu
@FazeTsu 2 года назад
@Bankai652 one person? Lol I seen this being said for years now . Branch out to other RU-vidrs big bro
@SurajKumar-kk9pr
@SurajKumar-kk9pr 2 года назад
@@FazeTsu yes mha is being rushed rn but still it's far better than bc. Everybody knows how disastrous the last bc arc was, that one plot twist at the end won't make up for it. If we r to compare only the traitor reveal yes bc did it much better but overall mha as a manga is just better.
@FazeTsu
@FazeTsu 2 года назад
@@SurajKumar-kk9pr BC has 2 major sagas the elf saga was great , the spade saga was okay at best but how much arcs mha has ??? Lol only like the first to arcs were good . Other than that mha has been trash my guy . Deku doesn’t even hold up the true concept of being a hero anymore. 6 or 7 quirks?? Damn that’s just shattered what deku character is .. Asta still has no magic my guy
@superblanco444
@superblanco444 2 года назад
@@FazeTsu idk what to tell you but there’s been multiple hints throughout the series since the beginning about OFA having a hidden power to it. And let’s not act like Asta’s swords aren’t busted in the magic world of black clover
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@FazeTsu bro you do know mhas true concept is "what it mean to be a hero" so him getting quirks doesnt affect his character and yes asta doesnt have magic but he has anti magic that negat magic that is so op, asta has a fucking cheat code that can beat anyone hell he beaten the main bad guy a god of devils and deku having quirks that he needs to study and train hell he needs to use 3 quirks at a time to be affective since most of his quirks would be useless alone. mha has over 20 arcs and most of them are better like the war arc was better the elf arc and the spade arc. not to mention mha has better villains,mc,dynamics,rivals ect am not saying black clover is trash.but the spade arc was
@zachary3121
@zachary3121 2 года назад
The Black Clover traitor reveal was better because it was thought out and not completely rushed, unlike My Hero Academia where the entire final arc feels rushed as if I am correct Deku is only at like 45-50% of One for All
@kubershukla5252
@kubershukla5252 2 года назад
You are correct
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
i personally think just because the pacing is picking up doesnt mean it rushed but i can see why people can see that
@Darkblazer789
@Darkblazer789 2 года назад
@@AgentNero9 I think they might change in anime like Tokyo Ghoul
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@Darkblazer789 never really watched tokyo ghoul so i dont really know
@amuroray9115
@amuroray9115 2 года назад
The rushing is the real cause
@ror0no_zoro
@ror0no_zoro 2 года назад
Black clover by far my favourite anime watched it about 8-10 times im way too excited for the last chapters and the movie to come out
@animefreak3714
@animefreak3714 10 месяцев назад
I agree
@majesticeagle2339
@majesticeagle2339 2 года назад
Last. No one can comment after me
@ishanthakur0302
@ishanthakur0302 2 года назад
Fuck kff
@Hiki-san
@Hiki-san 2 года назад
I can😏😏
@Priyansh3056
@Priyansh3056 2 года назад
The fact that Julius traitor theory made so much sense yet little to no sense it's genius on tabatas part
@richa7680
@richa7680 Год назад
Mha is trash after first couple episodes
@darkwinter2009
@darkwinter2009 Год назад
Not really though. It's good after the first three seasons
@slayerzz3725
@slayerzz3725 Год назад
​@darkwinter2009 nah it's ass I've seen the whole thing I think it's very generic I don't like alot of character designs only few fights are actually good to watch otherwise most of the time it's a snoozefest black clover is so much better than mha btw idk if there's more episodes I had to force myself to watch it at the end maybe they will turn it around but it is a garbage anime
@Official_NOM_
@Official_NOM_ 2 года назад
Lmfao
@johnathanburns1346
@johnathanburns1346 2 года назад
Nah, mha is better
@slayerzz3725
@slayerzz3725 Год назад
Mha was one of the most boring anime I have ever watched black clover is so much better black clover has its flaws but it kept me hooked I had to force myself through mha
@lodged1221
@lodged1221 2 года назад
I'll have some aot merch pls I subbed already
@lilveltheplayer2164
@lilveltheplayer2164 2 года назад
Can't wait for chapter 332
@humanity600
@humanity600 2 года назад
Yeah no this is heavy cap but to each his own I guess.
@devfakeplus
@devfakeplus 2 года назад
did you even watch the video? xD
@chronox8982
@chronox8982 2 года назад
Watch the video...it's about traitor reveal
@humanity600
@humanity600 2 года назад
@@chronox8982 I know what it's about and I personally still disagree. Is that so hard for the two of you morons to come to terms with?
@eliteflite8395
@eliteflite8395 2 года назад
@@chronox8982 so he clickbaited…nice.
@KDH-br6hy
@KDH-br6hy 2 года назад
@@eliteflite8395 ?
@pas-kal6823
@pas-kal6823 2 года назад
I have always been more of a black Clover fan than MHA yet I cannot help but be sad at how Mha went downhill. How Hori was forced to change his story because of popularity issues & how he is now rushing to end things just makes me sad!! Hori comments about how he was planning to write different things just makes me realise how much wasted potential, Mha as a manga had!! I always had these 2 in their own tier as some type of "Next 2" that started after the "Big 3" mostly ended and before them "Dark Masterpiece" like JJK, CSM & Hell's Paradise started!! MHA has some of my favourites animanga characters so I hope the ending whilst rushed to still be great😆😆!! P.s: Black Clover Traitor Reveal was Some Next level Stuff
@N_DAnimationEnthusiast
@N_DAnimationEnthusiast 2 года назад
Same here. I hope that My Hero can bounce back with their finale.
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
imo i think it didnt go downhill, the current chapter are pretty good but i do agree with the traitor reveal, Black clover did it better still think mhas better
@pas-kal6823
@pas-kal6823 2 года назад
@@AgentNero9 Personally I feel like it went Downhill; The Stars&Stripes section - The villain stuff, to me at least, seems lackluster as of late compare to the war arc. But it is just me!!
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@pas-kal6823 we i enjoyed the SnS arc, ofc they could have done better but it did show shigarakis growth as a character and got a W for the villains but i do agree the traitor arc was kinda lackluster but i do think the final war arc is going pretty good actually and it doesnt really seem rushed. plus just because the pacing is picking up doesnt mean it rushed but i can see why people think that.
@mangamandrew
@mangamandrew 2 года назад
To be fair, many mangaka change their story, for better or worst, frequently. Also, you can’t say the potential was wasted just because it was not added to the story at all. Wasted potential only occurs in story.
@mrkaji8913
@mrkaji8913 2 года назад
This is also the problem with Danganronpa V3 with tsimugi
@FoxyGrandpa1
@FoxyGrandpa1 2 года назад
Ya damn right
@srbot6396
@srbot6396 2 года назад
Bing bong boo = poo
@aizen4311
@aizen4311 2 года назад
Brilliant analysis Turtle quirk, I've gotta agree that Tabata's handling of Julius' reveal was amazing. Mha seems to be so rushed nowadays making plotline execution rather weak, any way I can't wait for the 3 month hiatus to end
@mangamandrew
@mangamandrew 2 года назад
The thing is about the execution of the reveal, why would they use their inside voices when they are outside in the middle of the forests? Have you ever heard of a parent not using an outside voice while avoiding or preaching to their child? It’s like you are wanting to call someone for help inside your house but use your quiet voice instead. Also, it is establishes that Aoyama and his parents are not people who are willing to work for AFO. They are panicking because that’s what a normal person would do. And I do think that even though they had been through a lot of Trauma because of Aoyama, they have also been through a lot to unify them as a group. Especially when it comes to how they all become closer after provisional license exam. I think it works because the bond they share seems stronger that the reveal of being a traitor. And the fact that he was a completely unwilling victim weighs heavily on the decision to forgive him.
@masterpink6963
@masterpink6963 2 года назад
Another hint is the fact that the wizard king has two types of magic and the only way to have this is to be a devil host
@masterpink6963
@masterpink6963 2 года назад
And I was correct
@true_weeb2086
@true_weeb2086 2 года назад
More black clover content please
@alaka5623
@alaka5623 2 года назад
Woowoowaawaa
@gayfanta9254
@gayfanta9254 2 года назад
I personally think BC is better because MHA is just boring to me. That's why I dropped it pretty recently.
@maxlau1622
@maxlau1622 2 года назад
I'm happy this video flopped because this clickbait title is completely false.
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
Julius traitor reveal do be better bruh.
@maxlau1622
@maxlau1622 2 года назад
@@blackclover20 That's up to interpretation, but the title clearly doesn't say that. It wants to allude to something that's just plainly untrue. BC has never surpassed MHA in any objective metric, and in my opinion, will never surpass it in a subjective metric either.
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
@@maxlau1622 it kinda did with the traitor reveal bruh.
@maxlau1622
@maxlau1622 2 года назад
@@blackclover20 Again, that's subjective and your opinion. Like do i need to explain this to you any more.
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
@@maxlau1622 but it his opinion that bc better than mha, so can't really be saying this vid clickbait huh?
@g1d3on_j98
@g1d3on_j98 2 года назад
Asta over deku any day
@carlitolol1435
@carlitolol1435 2 года назад
Um
@L-Mob
@L-Mob 2 года назад
black clover had the best traitor reveal
@i7zz3a1t
@i7zz3a1t 2 года назад
isnt midoriya a crybaby?
@Koopa.2000
@Koopa.2000 2 года назад
Not anymore, I mean he cryes only on moments where a normal human would effectively cry but that is because he is well written
@thealmightyderp5117
@thealmightyderp5117 2 года назад
I think if shoto was the traitor it would have far superior (not necessarily that it should of happened though), it would of had a huge impact on the show and the ending as a whole. He had the trust and technically had motive through his abusive childhood, rather than just blaming his father but the society that created his fathers action. The reveal would be far better as it would of compounded with Dabi's reveal, and rather being a half traitor but a full blown one by joining dabi and the other side, creating further conflict and more growth overall as it would vastly affect the view of society has on the number 1 hero. As well as his friend actually having to confront him rather than just pitying him.
@thealmightyderp5117
@thealmightyderp5117 2 года назад
But as things stand, Black clovers reveal was much better
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 2 года назад
But given his character it doesnt make sense and honestly I'd roll my eyes on that twist
@kingcold9892
@kingcold9892 2 года назад
Impact wise yes but logic wise no, hori could do whatever to make it sound more logical but it would just be dumb ngl
@KrAyOnS1
@KrAyOnS1 Год назад
I been telling people since day Black Clover > My Hero
@LobinToryu
@LobinToryu 2 года назад
W opinion
@captainsilver9165
@captainsilver9165 2 года назад
Black clover has been better
@L-Mob
@L-Mob 2 года назад
that is sadly true
@zetavasuki931
@zetavasuki931 2 года назад
black clover was and will always be better than mha XD and we know whatever happens next will be absolutely insane as always. Black clover goes hard. Mha has always had weak storylines.
@Koopa.2000
@Koopa.2000 2 года назад
How? Bc its kinda basic and the onlybgood things are the characters, mha is much more complex and with a better written story
@yjaikishor5058
@yjaikishor5058 2 года назад
@@Koopa.2000 bc >mha
@Koopa.2000
@Koopa.2000 2 года назад
@@yjaikishor5058 nah mha is better in every category objectively. Bc its a good product as a shonen byt its kinda basic and he copyes from many manga too much
@jeffreyali1456
@jeffreyali1456 Год назад
@@Koopa.2000 let’s not go that far especially with the final act being a mess for the most part
@Koopa.2000
@Koopa.2000 Год назад
@@jeffreyali1456 for now its just a little rushed but overall its good and make sense. Bc just straight put stuff at random to mske the story go ahead
@furutatheclown3619
@furutatheclown3619 2 года назад
I think BC is better than MHA but that’s my opinion, if you think otherwise that’s fine
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat 2 года назад
no opinion, Fact
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@motor4X4kombat theres no such thing as fact in this matter it all about opinion theres gonna be people that say how this better with alot of proof and other people say this is better with even more proof that it is.
@WildWeavile
@WildWeavile 2 года назад
To this day, I think it should have been uraraka.... like it would have been amazing plot twice that would have made sense with her, All for One is LOADED on cash so he could have gave money to her after learning bit more about why she longs to be a hero and she is one of deku's best friends!
@kyng_spade
@kyng_spade 2 года назад
Facts
@sageblast3143
@sageblast3143 2 года назад
See the thing Uraraka wants to be a hero for cash but she knows the difference between Good and Bad. That honestly would have been a Kaede Kayano level reveal but lets face it , it kinda would have ruined the class dynamic.
@AngryAnimeFan2
@AngryAnimeFan2 2 года назад
That reveal before the break was a major letdown Just for once I wished the theories were not true. Everything may have been a very long chess game but I still do not like this
@devfakeplus
@devfakeplus 2 года назад
why?
@AngryAnimeFan2
@AngryAnimeFan2 2 года назад
@@devfakeplus because a beloved character just went from that to a hate sink. And everything laid out was his meaning his eventual defeat will be unacceptable in others eyes. And this is too much like the Obito thing for me
@TheYoungGeninSasuke
@TheYoungGeninSasuke 2 года назад
I mean I never cared about Aoyama even if the reveal was chapters back. I have just been like "Ohh"
@ProtocolAbyss
@ProtocolAbyss 2 года назад
7:45 And… you know, the reoccurring clock tower with inconsistent time in the spade kingdom raid arc
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 2 года назад
Black Clover handles it's cast better than MHA. I love both but the supporting characters in MHA feel static by comparison to BC, especially the female cast.
@N_DAnimationEnthusiast
@N_DAnimationEnthusiast 2 года назад
As a fan of both series, I’d have to agree.
@avid4288
@avid4288 2 года назад
Love both of them but no way black clover is better than MHA
@chronox8982
@chronox8982 2 года назад
He talked about traitor reveal...not comparing a each series as a whole
@devfakeplus
@devfakeplus 2 года назад
Yes! BC trended on Twitter worldwide for that chapter. it was soooo damn good!
@chrishardin9774
@chrishardin9774 2 года назад
Absolutely L take
@masterpink6963
@masterpink6963 2 года назад
Never thought we would se someone say this
@charlesramsey8379
@charlesramsey8379 2 года назад
Oh wowwww!! These are my two favorite series currently and MHA is my top one but BC is right there behind it 👀!
@sometimeselii
@sometimeselii 2 года назад
you're my mutual on twitter...so you know how much I absolutely HATED the traitor reveal in MHA lol genuinely the lowest the series has ever been imo. oh well, great video as always!
@SellavinAtoms
@SellavinAtoms 2 года назад
It's been a while since you last minute HMA video on your channel you should get back to it.
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat 2 года назад
My hero academia = wandavision Black clover = doom patrol
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
eh i guess we all have opinions
@JoseR8291
@JoseR8291 2 года назад
MHA = Black Panther BC = captain Marvel
@krisrazer5817
@krisrazer5817 2 года назад
Im just afraid how people are going to treat hori and my hero once it ends cause they will hate and make fun of my hero fans because it was rushed
@Inklow
@Inklow 2 года назад
The build up to Julius's reveal wasn't just by what he said, it was also from a bunch of random things that had no explanation. For example, when asta got his book you can see that it was in between the piles of rock there. Also, when asta got his second sword and yuno got his spirit on THE SAME MISSON, the where sent by the wizard king himself. How could they SUPRISINGLY be there at the right time? Well because he can see in the future, astaroth manipulated Julius to put them there so asta and yuno can get those powers to help them become stronger. Also in his fight with Pateri, Julius only survived because of the magic item that he found, which astaroth manipulated him to find so it can save him in this fight so astaroth won't have to interfere too early. Every single thing that had no explanation was explained in a single chapter.
@GiraffeBlood
@GiraffeBlood 2 года назад
The “the villain planned every detail” trope is kinda shitty ngl
@TheReaIestOne
@TheReaIestOne 2 года назад
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS! FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT.
@ambroise7354
@ambroise7354 2 года назад
What do you think about interessant things founder could do with its manipulation of eldians ?
@aztank
@aztank 2 года назад
my hero academia was never that good to begin with
@zodiak0911
@zodiak0911 2 года назад
Another hint that Julius was a traitor or devil possessed or something is the fact that he had 2 magic types. When we first see him using transformation magic, but then it is later said that he used time magic
@nicholasford9717
@nicholasford9717 2 года назад
Bro why didn’t you tell me this was a MANGA REVEAL smh, I did not know the wizard king was the traitor OMG!!!!!!! I had to stop watching @ 1:59.
@devfakeplus
@devfakeplus 2 года назад
dude...
@nicholasford9717
@nicholasford9717 2 года назад
@@devfakeplus what?
@saadplays8214
@saadplays8214 2 года назад
Despite the last few arcs being rushed MHA is still better and MHA traitor reveal is better than Julius reveal. Simply because we knew the traitor, every body thought it was hagakure but it was aoyama instead yet if you look back it makes perfect sense for aoyama to be the traitor, hagakure was just a red herring
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
yeah i agree i think even though mha is going fast the mha traitor reveal made more sense,
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
Uk u can apply the same thing for julius bruh.
@saadplays8214
@saadplays8214 2 года назад
@@blackclover20 you cannot. There was no suspect, there was no hints of being a traitor on the first place, it's extremely rushed and seems like a rushed plot point, nobody was making theories etc etc
@fham4789
@fham4789 2 года назад
@@saadplays8214 you gotta be trolling
@blackclover20
@blackclover20 2 года назад
@@saadplays8214 they did bruh, even this guy said he was makin theories, heck u can find youtubers who made theories on this way before the reveal bruh.
@adamfarrell661
@adamfarrell661 2 года назад
I honestly thought that the traitor thing was just a theory and that it was never going to happen which is why I was shocked to see that it was real.
@superblanco444
@superblanco444 2 года назад
Black clover had a good reveal but I’m gonna be honest even with MHA being rushed I still prefer it over black clover. I’m a fan of villain characters and aside from Patri I could care less for any of their villains.
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
yeah i also love black clover but the villains arent there strong suit
@devfakeplus
@devfakeplus 2 года назад
that's ok! everyone has preferences^^ and no manga can make everything perfect!
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat 2 года назад
They are still better villains than shigaraki
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@motor4X4kombat am sorry but what are you smoking shigaraki had wayy better character devolpmeant then any villain in black clover am not saying black clover is bad its just it has bad villains
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat 2 года назад
@@AgentNero9 what a toxic fan
@maximilianlau8267
@maximilianlau8267 2 года назад
I know the title is clickbait, But the Spade arc was absolute flaming garbage, and while the traitor reveal was good, that arc was still disastrous, especially the Lucifero fight.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 2 года назад
Wasnt the way Lucifero fight went was because Lucius made sure to go to a favorable timeline
@slayerzz3725
@slayerzz3725 Год назад
I agree with that but mha is just trash as a whole I had to force myself to get through it maybe there's more episodes now and it got better but I only liked season 1 after that it was garbage
@lovvemore
@lovvemore 2 года назад
Both Mid Asf 😂
@fr-sh
@fr-sh 2 года назад
I've been waiting for this for a long time
@marquisejackson6482
@marquisejackson6482 2 года назад
Sometimes you don’t even need to watch the context when you’re told a lie
@tishawngrant9447
@tishawngrant9447 2 года назад
The fight scenes are better the magical abilities are way better and physical abilities as well the story is great and they're not in a school
@Agent_3141
@Agent_3141 2 года назад
I recently watched the Black Clover anime and it is really good. Does anyone know if the anime will continue? Because I heard from one RU-vidr that the anime is done
@rooneysetiawan3302
@rooneysetiawan3302 2 года назад
Yeah the anime ends at a cliffhanger but the manga continues the story
@Agent_3141
@Agent_3141 2 года назад
@@rooneysetiawan3302 So the anime is over? It won't continue?
@rooneysetiawan3302
@rooneysetiawan3302 2 года назад
@@Agent_3141 Well movie is in production, but yes the anime has ended
@Agent_3141
@Agent_3141 2 года назад
@@rooneysetiawan3302 How disappointing. And here I was enjoying it. Now it was all for nothing
@Salemwaaa
@Salemwaaa 2 года назад
@@Agent_3141 try reading the manga for the rest of the story that you missed out one
@Andrea_Gabrielli
@Andrea_Gabrielli 2 года назад
I agree specifically about the traitor reveal for MHA. Still love the series overall more than Black Clover (BC is still great, but it can get cheesy or too comical sometimes, even for an anime). I would have preferred if it had been Hagakure, it would have been cool if THAT’S the reason why her quirk is invisibility.
@chode___
@chode___ 2 года назад
i honestly didnt care for the mha traitor. ayoyama was a nothing character
@boneruler2338
@boneruler2338 2 года назад
Tbh Black Clover has been better then MHA for a while now. The latest plot twist just confirmed that fact even more. Something has just been missing in MHA lately.
@maximilianlau8267
@maximilianlau8267 2 года назад
Bruh the spade arc was worse than anything I've ever read in MHA. Mimosa healing everyone and everything being sunshine and rainbows right after was still lame, regardless of the reason.
@eliteflite8395
@eliteflite8395 2 года назад
Mickey Mouse Clover with no stakes whatsoever is not better than MHA. Don’t get hype because of a clickbait RU-vid title
@boneruler2338
@boneruler2338 2 года назад
@@eliteflite8395 Mid Hero Academia stans crying in the comments 🤣
@eliteflite8395
@eliteflite8395 2 года назад
@@boneruler2338 Mid No Sales Clover stans getting hyped over clickbait RU-vid videos 😭😭😭
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 2 года назад
@@boneruler2338 i mean to be fair the arc was kinda bad current arc of mha atleast has some stake to it this not me bashing on black clover i actually love the series it just the spade arc was really bad but imo
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