How Catelyn Stark became Lady Stoneheart (Game of Thrones) 

I really wish we got to see lady stoneheart on the show, Michelle Fairley did a amazing job as Catelyn Stark

It would be so satisfying seeing all these Boltons, Freys, and Lannister gasping and being terrified of the very woman they killed.

Interesting how Catelyn Stark is a symbol of the ideal wife and ideal mother, but these values wouldn't drive her to love Jon Snow and were driving factors in why she captured Tyrion. Game of Thrones is filled with people who's admirable but limited value structures force them to fall short, chief among them Ned and Catelyn Stark.

Well, I think the reason Catelyn doesn’t want to find her kids is because she’s aware that she’s not Catelyn anymore. I don’t think that she wants her kids to see the monster she’s become.

I’m forever sad that Lady Stoneheart didn’t make an appearance in the show. Would’ve made it interesting.

Other than Dorne, bastards are not seen in any positive light. Her anger toward jon is definitely misplaced, but Idk that her not knowing actual Jons parentage makes her “not bright”. Almost no one else knew.

I love Catelyn. I know she gets a lot of shit by the fandom, but she's always been so real and complex to me. Her storyline is so tragic.

"Cat wasn't the brightest character" ... "Ned himself wasn't the brightest either" 😅 touchè

Jaime and Stonehearts meeting is the greatest cliffhanger since if you think about it, Jaime has no chance in arguing against: Bran's fall, attacking Ned, desert the Kinsguard, or force Edmure to surrender Riverrun (Tom of Sevenstrings heard his threats) In April Martin said that the writing of the Winds of Winter has gone well. And he has joked that if he isn't done until Worldcon 2020 then he will be imprisoned at White Island until he is done.

I'm glad Lady Stoneheart didn't make an appearance in the show cause D&D would've kinda forgotten not to fuck up her story.

You're not giving Arya nearly enough credit in this video! You said her warging powers are untrained, but after warging into Nymeria she follows that desire to find her mother. That's more control than Bran shows over Summer, even though he's much more trained in other ways.

In Avatar: The Last Airbender, the bloodbender Hama is a lot like Lady Stoneheart. After having escaped her imprisonment in the Fire Nation, Hama resided inside the Fire Nation, disguised as a citizen, and during each full moon would imprison Fire Nation inhabitants through her use of bloodbending and leave them to rot in a cave. If the Avatar series was adult oriented like A Song of Ice and Fire, no doubt Hama would have also been called Mother Merciless, the Hangwoman, and the Silent Sister. Plus, you could argue that Hama died inside when she was imprisoned, and when she discovered Bloodbeding it was like a foreign fire ignited inside her like the foreign fire that turned Catelyn Stark into a fire wight, even though she was a worshiper of the New Gods, not R'hllor.

First of all, the reason why Catelyn didn't want Jon in Winterfell was not due to her jealousy. It was because of Jon's appearance and how much he looked like Ned more than any her own children (except Arya). So Catelyn feared Jon could claim Winterfell, and cause some incident that similar to Blackfyre rebellions. Basically, Catelyn was concerned for Robb's right as the Winterfell heir. This is why she made sure Jon felt like an outcast, otherwise he could feel like Ned's true son and heir. But even though Catelyn outcasted Jon, she never treated him badly, she could if she wanted to. But no, she just ignored and ghosted him. Only except the time when he came to see Bran, but she was half mad with misery there. Also she was aware that Ned could sleep with some other women as most men would. You can read her 2nd chapter in the first book. Apart from this, Catelyn wasn't acting impulsively when she captured Tyrion. She literally had no other choice. At first, she tried to hide but because of a singer named Marillion, Tyrion noticed Catelyn in the crowd. So at this point, Catelyn didn't have another choice, if she let him go away, Tyrion would find out Catelyn visited King's Landing secretly (she went to King's Landing in order to see Ned and warn him). So Tyrion would understand that Starks were up to something suspicious. Basically, this wasn't an impulsive decision, just the opposite this was the best political decision possible in this situation. And lastly, Catelyn is a smart chracter! She even tricked and outsmarted Tyrion for a couple of times! She knew how the politics of Westeros worked, better than most character. You're talking about Hoster Tully's daughter here! This is totally a disrespect!

Well if you were a walking corpse, would you really go back to your family. Like you said she is changed and just thinks of revenge so it is kinda logical that she would not go back

Ned: family is everything Also ned : never ask me about Jon

This is where the show failed in end. they were trying get away from magic .magic and prophecies is big part of the books and showrunners tried to get away from it around season 4 and 5.

Stoneheart is really the only character I can think of that I believe will make a big difference then compared to the shows.

Lady Stoneheart is among the scariest characters in the books.

Wait, this is a new video? I have been watching 4, 5, 6, or even 8 year-old GOT clips these days lol

Brandon got himself killed?! That's a little unfair man!

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How could they leave this out of the show..

I think her story are way mote tragic in the books compared to the show because you can know her thoughts all the time even if the red weeding has been spoiled to you it still hit so hard and you understand why she became the demonic being

Who? (lol) D&D: we don't know her..

I always felt like something was not right with Catelyn Stark and that her character isn't complete taking Tyrion as captive, letting Jaime go all of that for nothing she died for nothing it only makes sense that she is brought back her story was not complete

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They didn't do it in the Tv series, but make Catelyn and Jon reunite in the books please! Imagine them trying to re-take Winterfell together and getting Rickon back from Skaagos and Sansa back from the Eyrie!

GOT TV show question:Is the Frey house still alive or did Arya wipe all the males from existence?

It wasn't Ned's naivety that got him killeda, it was his honor, integrity, and love for his family.

I wish Lady Stoneheart had been in the show!!

wish they didnt cut her character off

She is the reason the red wedding happened because it never would have happened if she didn't free jamie

Cant believe they skipped over this like it was just filler

I like Michelle fairly so I like catelyn I like tv catelyn better and I think Michelle was a better acting chose then Elisabeth I love both and I think Elisabeth is more Hollywood pretty but Michelle is more reality beautiful and since they aged up everyone in the tv show I think 45 year old Michelle fairly was beautiful enough to play catelyn I know so many ha e hate for catelyn but she’s my girl and I can’t hate her . ( mostly because Michelle was casted as her and Michelle is such a relatable human .) if it had been someone eles I might have just hated catelyn like everyone else. But I also hate Danny so yea.

I loved Cat and LOVE Lady Stonheart...great video!!

I would really like to see Rickon's real story arc and what happens with him later on. In the show it was pretty obvious that the brain dead writers had no idea what to do with him since the show hadn't done much with him yet so they just wanted to kill him off to avoid ever having to write him into the story. But I was always very interested in what his real role in the story would end up being.

I miss this kind of fantasy in the show, also how they present Euron in the show, he could bring so much dark fantasy in it.

I hope Little finger really meet Lady stoneheart someday. Edit: it be poetic

They say that there's no fury like that of a woman scorned. I beg to differ. How about the fury of a mother out to avenge her children?

I wonder why Aerys became mad? The 3eyed Raven? Dany wasn't crazy, she was pissed off after Rhaegal's death and Missandei's decapitation. She should've just burned the Red Keep!

I know this already I just love your content

Ned Stark looks chubby, lol.

HA... I just read the epilogue of A Storm of Swords an hour ago.

You forgot to mention the other knight that was with Brienne and Pod.

Wonder if she would recognise her kids if she crosses paths with them or it would be nice for her to see them

Lady stoneheart will realize Jon snow is lyanna's child. She knows Jon is Robb's heir. It's probably why she currently has Robb's crown. Lady stoneheart will find out by bran, howland and maybe samwell tarly about Jon's true lineage. She'll probably give her life to ressurect Jon and with her last ounce of strength, crown him as he rises from death in front of a lot of key northern people.

Maybe thats part of the reason why Jon fell for Ygritte so hard. Finally got the love from a catelyn look alike lol. #mommyissues

How many Stark's have died and come back? Jon, Cat, you could make a case for Bran. I wonder if that means anything...

2:30 It does seem that Ned never completely opened up to Cat. I do think that's a bit of a failing of him as Caitline would have likely kept the secret out of love for him. It would have certainly helped make things easier on everyone.

Catelyn Stark is pretty much the cause of all the problems in the entire book.

Ned not being jons real father is nothing but targrayen propaganda

Can you imagine if we saw the next episode of game of thrones when Catelyn got pulled out of the river and be came Lady stoneheart ? But I guess we will never know 😭🤷🏻‍♀️

Game of Thrones is a hard thing to be a fan of it seems. The show's last few seasons completely ruined the show for me and who knows if and when Martin will ever actually finish the books. We're just left with either and unfinished story, or a story that went from really good to terrible with it's ending.

Hope she's get her revenge in the books.

“Muscley hothead who got himself killed” is a really bad way of saying got strangled by the mad king while trying to save his kidnapped sister. Really makes us question the value of your perspective.

If Jon is alive, how safe is he from Stoneheart?

" Cat wasn't all that bright" okay.......

thanks so much for still uploading your videos are always a good watch

I’m sure you all have heard or known this... but the books were much better. I read the first one in 1998 and still waiting for them to end

Catelyn was always Lady Stoneheart. She's personally responsible for countless deaths by starting the war of the five kings.

Every Tully sucked in the show

TLDR: She had her throat cut open then she cameback from the dead and people who found her were like 'ohh mah gawd she like a zombie or something man! that has to be some witchcraft or the gods want her to stay, anyways we'll serve her now i suppose lets give her her son's crown or something so people can make nice fan art of her fiddling with it on some table or some shit'

Lady Stoneheart was always there, lurking just under the surface, all spite and jealousy. She kept that jealousy close, and it gnawed away at her heart like a Rat. Her Sister was mad as a carrot too. They led that poor Baelish lad around by the dick for years, before one of them pity fucked him, not sure which one, then they both dump him and marry Stark and Arryn. Lel.

I didn’t like her. Her and her sister were equally cruel. How she treated Jon Snow. I watched the whole show waiting for her time to be unalived and i did not like that everyone else were unalived at the red wedding but was relieved by hers. bye byotch. Yeah, another thing i did not like was the control freak in her.

This is what we waiting for in winds of winter. ❄️ Stoneheart saga would be incredibly good. 😊

2:55 One big thing to me is that she felt no regret torturing Tyrion on very flimsy evidence. She never stood up to the insane Lyssa or really questioned herself. I also really hate how she never feels bad about how she treated Jon. She doesn't have to be depressed about it but it is a notable failure of her as a mother but she never seems to see it as such.

The Mask is off and we get to see the real Catelyn Tully.

While this would have probably been awesome, because who doesnt like a zombie hellbent on revenge? I think it would have come off as cheap and doesnt really fit the version of Westeros that GoT had. It was more straightforward in its character arcs and less focused on magic and with a more streamlined overall story. Adding another villain would have been a mistake and since her story is unfinished she would have just made a cameo appearance for the fans and her story would have been unresolved. The Red Wedding in the show was soo chilling because it was soo final and turned the story on its head by killing off the characters the audience thought would be major players in the show especially Robb. To have that taken away from us soo abruptly and savagely made the show as popular as it would become. To this day people still talk about that episode. Bringing her back would have taken away from that.

Hopefully Lady Stoneheart gets to kill Littlefinger in the next book.

you have game of thrones in the title but she's not in it?

She wamts to feed the crows

Lady stoneheart is going to be the one who brings Jon snow back to life

Freys/Lannister/Boltons: Are we the baddies? Stoneheart: YES.

Brandon Stark And His father Rickard Stark we’re killed by the mad king after Lyanna Stark was “Kidnapped” by Rhaegar, Brandon Stark rode to kings landing to demand her release. The mad king arrested him as a traitor and ordered his father to kings landing to get his son back. When Rickard Stark got to kings landing the mad king arrested him as a traitor too. Rickard Stark requested a trial by combat and the mad king said “Fire is the champion of house Targaryen” he suspended Rickard Stark in the rafters above the court and had pyromancers light a blaze underneath him. Brandon Stark was bought in wearing a Tyroshi strangle device and told he could save his father. A Long sword was placed just out of reach and Brandon Stark strangled himself to death trying to save his father who was burned alive in his armor.

Imagine if lysa ended up with Ned instead of cate. Bet lysa would forget about little finger

so Arya was a warg?

looool I had totally forgotten about poor Rickon and 2:34 had me scared

FIRST OMG HOWOWOHRF

I suddenly have a new perspective on Catelyn: oldest child people pleaser from a repressive highly religious household. We've all met her.

Winds of Winter could be out this year.

This show needed at least 12-15 seasons.. I wouldve gone full 20 seasons

I really want to see Catelyn reunited with her children. Or possible nymeria the dire wolf.

Caitlyn is overhated

I've been watching GAME OF THRONES for ever and this is so new to me. So many spinoff can be made. Wowwwww

Men like Ned are high Quality men. Everybody cheat but he didn’t. It sad that his couldn’t trust his wife or else all the misunderstood wound resolved long time ago and she won’t hate John Snow

just wanted to know starting from her death then becoming Lady Stoneheart. you didn't have to rewind all the way to season 1

I think this is one rare circumstance where the show does a better job than the books, i just don’t think it would fit in the show if Cat came back to life

I love revenge stories!

Apparently turning into lady stoneheart meant she couldn’t keep up with those lip injections

I could totally see lady Stonehart taking out little finger. just imagine his perfect ideal is perverted, corrupted and unleashed against him. I love the idea of spreading the gift of life via a kiss after his throat is slit

WC !!!

Who do we reference when saying A.C. in the I&F context ? because I doubt christ was a thing in the word of I&F

All she known is that John is an affair baby that is why she hated him to the bone. Can’t blame her for feeling this way after putting myself in her shoes.

I can’t even re-watch the TV show

would be cool if lady stoneheart is the one to revive jon snow in the books

Think she spent some time in her second life as a trout?

Think lady stoneheart gets freaky with those neck flap? I do

need to work on the voice but other than that, really cool video

I adore your voice.