How Did Lady Stoneheart's Omission Completely Change Game Of Thrones? A Song Of Ice And Fire Theory 

The TV show seemed to revel in the violence (including Arya’s) for its value in titillating the audience. But in the books, most acts of violence cause the reader to see the perpetrators as damaged or traumatized in their own way. For the Hound and Arya violence is a hollow pursuit that brings no satisfaction, but they are compelled to continue nonetheless. Lady Stoneheart’s reunification with Arya will be as a dark mirror showing the emptiness of revenge. I agree that Arya mercy-killing the remnant of her mother is a proper way to pivot her character away from budding psychopath towards a redemptive defender.

A scene with Aria cutting, gutting, skinning, and cooking the bodies might have made the audience question their loyalty to her.

There was one of those after show interviews with Dan and David where they outright say Arya always makes the "coolest" choice. It was said in comparison to Sansa. And I was like, "oh my god they don't understand these characters at all." Arya is also responsible for Stoneheart. She asked Beric to reunite her with her mother and he gave his word "on his honor as a knight". Which I always assumed, since Beric is one of the few that his word means something, is why he gave his life for Catelyn. The fact that the show kept Beric was also odd. I was also told by someone who works at GRRM's publishing house that the show leaving out Stoneheart was why he stopped writing episodes. And that he wasn't on speaking terms with D&D in the final seasons.

You are right. Arya's unchecked PTSD and the damage to the mind of an impressionable pre-teen / teen being translated into bad-assery is in poor taste.. Your videos are very good.

I'm really interested in how much of catlyn is still in lady stoneheart. Especially when she reunites with one of her children

Right now Arya's sense of justice is so warped that she killed that boy who was deserting the watch in Bravos - I forget his name right now. That murder is significant. It's not someone who has harmed her, it's not someone who has harmed ANYONE she knows of. She thinks of it as justice, as something Ned would have done, because it's a deserter from the Night's Watch, but for her it represents a slip past killing people on her list, who she might have some justification for killing, versus taking on this responsibility which wouldn't even be hers. It's the clearest demonstration that GRRM doesn't think what she is doing is "Badassery"

Totally agree. The entirety of Arya’s storyline is obviously very disturbing. I think her time in the house of black and white is meant to teach her a different view of the idea of death and killing. Where she has seen it up until that point to be bad or vengeful, her time becoming a faceless assassin will teach her that death can be a mercy (tying in the idea of the mother-depicted as merciful.) Also showing the most cut and dry meaning of the idea that all men must die.

i remember michelle fairley used to get asked about lady stoneheart and she'd just look sadly :/ she would've killed it, she's one of the best actresses from the show

I was always really frustrated with people that said Danaerys was crazy and violent but didn't see it with Arya because she was framed as justified and cool.

I think Lady Stoneheart will play more of a role with Arya than helping her understand the distinction between justice and vengeance. Stoneheart will be a sorrowful example to Arya how being resurrected by R’hllor can pervert the people she loves for certain ends. Daenerys may not be the only Targaryen she kills when King’s Landing burns.

Lady stoneheart's ommision is not as serious as the ommision of young griff. Young griff changes the whole story from who sits on the iron throne to the on going bickering of tyrells and lannisters

It's also so interesting that earlier in the books, Arya had some moments of guilt, like after she killed the stable boy, and she thought of her mother, worried how she might think of her now. I hope their plot lines intersect in the remaining books!

I think Stoneheart is going to be important in Arya's chatacter arc, but that's not the only way in which she is important. Actions always have consequences in ASOIAF and Lady Stoneheart is the direct consequence of the Red Wedding. As you say, GRRM doesn't use large-scale massacres as if they're solutions to anything, they will always bite the perpetrators back in the end. One of my major annoyances with the TV show is how the Red Wedding simply ended the Robb/Catelyn storyline and it's as if the Riverlands don't exist anymore. It's much better in the books where the Red Wedding shakes up everything in the North and the Riverlands and is as much a beginning of new stories as the end of Robb's story. We get reminded of the story of the Rat Cook to drive home the point that killing people under the protection of guest right will curse you, and everything we see happen after that to both the Boltons and Freys is meant to reflect that. For the Boltons, their betrayal of the Starks in the Red Wedding will cause the annihilation of their house mostly at the hands of the other Northern lords (which the TV show also screwed up royally by turning Ramsay into a VIllain Sue and effectively removing the Northern conspiracy from existence, all for some cheap drama involving the Jon/Sansa v Ramsay struggle). But for the Freys, it is Lady Stoneheart who is the very personification of the crimes of the Freys, and the main actor in delivering payback towards their house. It is because of Lady Stoneheart that the Freys aren't reaping the rewards of the Red Wedding for a moment, as they are constantly attacked from all sides and get murdered left and right. By taking out Lady Stoneheart, the showrunners effectively let the Freys get away with all of their crimes with zero repercussions, even though Lord Frey was supposedly "cursed", until they bring them back for a cheap feel-good moment when Arya gets to kill them and we can all shout "Yaaas slay queen!" at our screens. And while I'm typing this, I realize there is a third major reason why Stoneheart is going to be important and that is Jaime's arc. Although I don't know how yet, but it's not going to be a coincidence that Jaime is going to Stoneheart right after the moment he rejects Cersei's plea for help. I think it's possible Stoneheart will try to get him to swear an oath to kill Cersei, an oath to take a life as a dark echo of his previous oath to her to preserve two lives. This may actually be the end of Cersei in the next book, as I can't see how she can have any future anyway as a major player in the story.

I also think the Arya and Lady Stoneheart connection could have another aspect for Arya. Beyond becoming an assassin, a good chunk of Arya's early development is her connection with the smallfolk, she plays with commoners on her journey South, and sees a child killed for the crime of basically being around during a conflict between Lords. She leaves with smallfolk as well to try and get back to Winterfell and sees war from their perspective in that travel. I think in addition to learning between justice and vengeance with Lady Stoneheart, Arya will also see the BWB being corrupted in that struggle by Stoneheart by hurting the innocent and the smallfolk. I think its likely that the endgame for a fully realized mature Arya is to basically take the BWB and make them back into a force to protect the smallfolk from the game of thrones, provided she doesn't die trying to stop a targaryen dragon rider, white walkers, or eldritch iron born from hurting the common people even more.

Although I am a massive fan of the theory that says that lady stoneheart will be brienne's "mad kind aerys" - meaning she was the person she swore to serve but will eventually have to kill to protect the innocent - and thus parallel brienne's journey with jaime's although with very different result, you have made me a fan of this theory as well. I always thought lady stoneheart's theme of justice vs vengeance is a theme that perfectly alligns with arya's. My main issue with it is that arya is in bravos and stoneheart in the riverlands. Arya going back to westeros and somehow meeting her in the short timeframe we have (remember that brienne is on the way to lure Jaim'e to stoneheart's and the bwb trap) seems unlikely. I truly like this theory, but idk how it would work in the story

It was a huge mistake to cut Lady Stoneheart.

In my eyes cutting out Stoneheart was like cutting a giant hole in a blanket. You can try to use it still, or sew it up but it is gonna be messed up. Which explains most of the issues in the series

You’ve completely changed the way I think about the story of ASoIaF. I’ve been binging your channel the past few days and you’ve got a lifetime sub. Thank you for doing what you do (and with the respect towards hard subjects that you do it with)!

Arya and Lady Stoneheart meeting would be an insane payoff to two lines from all the way back to ACOK and AGOT. In A Clash of Kings, when at a sept after meeting Renly, Catelyn looked to the faces and for a moment saw them flickering between her loved ones, and for one brief moment it was Arya, foreshadowing her Faceless Man journey, but also their reunion with Arya likely wearing another's face. In A Game of Thrones, Syrio Forel tells Arya of his test to be the First Sword of the Sealord of Braavos; describe a cat. Firstly, it's just a classic the Emperor Has No Clothes metaphor, that people-pleasers and all that paint it as greater than it is, saying it's a special and ferocious lion or something, but Syrion had common sense and saw through it. Secondly, it is more likely about him being able to see through glamours and all that, a magically disguised cat that everyone truly does see as a lion, but Syrio has a sharp eye which can see through such glamours, and thus he saw it as a cat, which was a test to see if he could spot Faceless Men and their magical facial glamours, which is very important for an important figure who may be assassinated (also more foreshadowing of the Facless Men in Arya's storyline). But lastly, it foreshadows Arya's reconnection to her mother, because while everyone else sees the horrible and cruel and tortured and evil Lady Stoneheart... Arya will see through it, through the facade and the reputation and the pain, and she will see her mother, she will see Cat.

Winds is supposed to have more Horror…The Frey Lannister Wedding is coming….Walder would have kept Robb and his wolfs bodies as trophies. Cats been getting intel before she hangs Freys... She said she wanted her son alive or every Frey dead. But she might be planning to do both. She could be planning her own wedding massacre and in the middle she’ll sew her sons head back on and resurect him as an undead Night King to kill Walder Frey and massacre the remaining Freys and Lannisters; Stoneheart might not even have to die to do it… Arya is finally reunited with family in a way that is more horrible than she can imagine. They have all become monsters. She must end them or escape them, and struggle back to her humanity as they gruesomely massacre the Westerlands in vengeance as Robb makes his way back to his Bride…

The best revenge is not to be like your enemies

Oh dam yes! Sorry, I'm commenting before watching, but I'm just so excited for your take on Lady Stoneheart and the lack thereof in the show.

Please do more videos like this, especially about characters and plots that were either drastically changed or not included at all, and the effect their absence had on the overall story.

Yes! Another great video talking about an important arc and message of the story.

I think you're right, effectively in the show Arya was just a cold hearted killer, not exactly this kind of characters that GRR likes to write with complexity and non binary minds

i remember talking this points with show fans at the time of air. I also argued that Jon Snow was undeserving of being named King in the north, being that it was his choices that almost killed them all, and was Sansa (and LF) who actually saved them. Jon takes a lot of terrible bad decisions all along the show, and yet, i was always showered with insults when i mentioned it. The only good thing of having such a bad last season, is that now it is very obvious that the creators of the show had dropped the ball and stopped giving a fuck in the last years, and is impossible to justify, even from the head place of the undying fans.

Why are your videos so good and why am i only just discovering this channel?

You are my favorite asoiaf commentary channel. You give me so much to think about in every video.

Her going by the persona “mercy” would be some juicy foreshadowing if she ends up putting down lady stoneheart

Which is exactly why anyone demonizing Daeny but living the Starks makes absolutely no sense

Thank you for this video, it’s nice to get excited again about a storyline in Winds of Winter!

In the Books, Arya didn't include the Freys in her Killing-List, because she doesn't know who exactly is responsible for it. So in Case Arya killing the Freys in the Books she needs to meet with Lady Stoneheart so that she will actually kill the Freys, and she will only want to kill Walder and those who killed Robb and his Wife, but Lady Stoneheart will want to kill them all. That's what I realized after rewatching this Video a dozen Times, and only after looking up the difference between the Killing List in the Books vs. the Killing-List in the Show I realized what that could mean. I wanted to share it with you.

Unfortunately none of the Starks had any emotions or heart by the end of the show. The absurdly incompetent writers thought robot= badas s

Again FABULOUS This, the Jayne Poole video! Sansa, Dany, Meiria (spelling?) All Great.

What do you think will happen when Brienne takes Jaime to Stoneheart? Surely, Stoneheart will force Jaime to use his influence to help with the massacre of the Freys, perhaps holding Brienne as hostage. Alternately, many believe Brienne and Jaime must fight in a trial by combat. Some think this trial by combat will end by them both teaming up to kill Stoneheart. Alternately, Stoneheart may have heard that Arya is alive- perhaps through Aryas psychic signature within Nymeria, which Catelyn , now connected to the world of spirit, recognizes- and she sends Jaime and Brienne to find Arya and bring her to Stone heart. Maybe that’s how Arya leaves the House of BW. She goes with Jaime, who says her mother is alive. Arya dosent believe him because she saw Catelyns dead body. But she goes anyway as she thinks it’s a way to get close to Cersei who is on her list. Perhaps also, the house of BE send Arya on a mission to Westeros to kill the Mountain as the house of BW are against the undead. So when Jaime arrives, Arya goes with him for many reasons.

Great, thought-provoking video

Good points made here, but two questions remain: 1: How does linking up with Arya affect Stoneheart? How does a howling revenant of brutal cold-blooded revenge respond when one of the things it thought it lost is restored to it? It's a genuinely creepy thought. 2: Martin always likes showing the unglamourous details of his character's lives (vid. Tywin dead on the toilet; Daenerys puking in the Dothraki Sea). So what does Stoneheart look like to Arya? How does watching the thing-that-was-once-her-mum hobbling about the camp feel like to her? Arya gets some of Martin's most effective prose, and this could be a make-or-break moment for the story just in terms of how good the writing is. No wonder winter is so late.

agree with most of these points, but I don't agree that Arya will kill Daenerys, Jon just has so much more narrative and story impact. However, I'm sure that Arya will have some other large part to play. Perhaps Euron

I haven't read it anywhere but I think, jon's resurrection by melissandra didn't make much sense, to add value to it, they make melissandre doubt her faith and it doesn't feel right. I think Lady Stoneheart solves this in the upcoming books. Catelyn Stark archetype is a mother. A mother who couldn't love a motherless child, nor asked her husband to finally give him the house name. She thinks that's why her house is going through all of this, cause she didn't keep her word to the gods. Lady stoneheart is given life through Beric Dondarrion from the botherhood without banners. She'll go north and will find once again Jon Snow losing his life. Even with the heart of stone her motherness will shine through and she will give him the life and die, as it happened to Beris. (this is why the lord of light has resurrected Beris so many times, due to the importance of Jon in the war to come) That's how she closes her arch as a mother. She will finally accept him as one of her children. Jon Snow will be reborn, as Jon Stark. The resurrection will make sense, and will be an act of mother love, and not a random thing melissandre did. That's why I think Martin wanted her to be in the story.

I feel like they’re justification of well we didn’t want to tip our hand on Jon for later is kinda weak. IIRC Lady Stonehearts appearance and Jon’s death happen around the same time so you can just wait to reveal her identity till after Jons back. We’ve already seen Beric be brought back to life at this point in the show

They did Michelle dirty saying her acting was not up to parr like wtf u legit cast her as catelyn praised her yet did not think she could play lsh

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Let’s also not forget that Brienne is likely leading Jaime to Lady Stoneheart and that it will be a critical point for him. Jaime’s outcome rests entirely on Lady Stoneheart

It is Nymeria, Arya's wolf, that pulls Lady Catlin's body from the water. The connection to Arya was right there at that moment.

Lady Stoneheart is such a key part of the heart (heh heh) of the story, and I think you're absolutely right that omitting her from the show is a big red flag that the showrunners really did not get it. Personally, I don't like the idea of Arya mercy-killing Lady Stoneheart, mainly because I think it would just be heaping additional trauma on top of Arya's already immense trauma to, essentially, have to kill her own mother. I don't have a good alternate theory to how Lady Stoneheart's story will end, but I do agree that she will be a huge part of Arya's remaining storyline and their encounter will be a turning-point for Arya. Perhaps instead Lady Stoneheart will die because she chooses to pass on her fire the same way it was passed to her by Beric--something that will give Arya more healing and closure. At least that is my hope.

It’s such a huge theme in ASOIAF that vengeance destroys people, as is that when the highborns go to war, it’s not them who suffer. It’s the small folk. I think Arya more than any character embodies this. I like the idea that Lady Stoneheart will massacre the Freys, and that Arya will realise that Lady Stoneheart is what she’ll end up like if she keeps going down this path. Like mother, like daughter. I always felt really miffed with how they ruined Arya on the show, like all the trauma she went through on her journey just turned her into this stupid girlboss character who kills anyone who wronged her. There’s no acknowledgment that Arya was just an innocent girl who went down a dark path from all the trauma she went through, just like the Hound, which is why she removes him from her list because she sees he’s just the same as her, subconsciously.

I think Stoneheart will reunite with Arya through Nymeria, as the Brotherhood have been searching for a Wolf of her description and Cat was the first to clock on to the importance of the Direwolves.

Bro just give us an animated TV series remake 😢

The show scene where she kills all the male Freys is a bit contrived. It won't be this way in the books. It will be much more complicated, and either Arya OR Lady Stoneheart will stop at the idea of killing Edmund's wife Roslyn, this will cause the rethink. But first Arya will hunt a lot of Freys with that giant wolfpack - she just has to!

I’d never considered this- but Aryia/Stoneheart is an awesome idea

great vid

the discovery of lady stoneheart alone made me want to read the books.

Good video, but you forgot to mention the "Bread and salt" unwritten law because that is the reason Arya didn't suffer external consequence. She is the "external consequence"!

I agree with you that Arya will meet Stoneheart via Nymeria. I think seeing her mother as this monster will feed her hatred of both the Freys and Lannisters rather than tame it. As a faceless man she will also be afronted at this cheating of death. Martin likes to write the human heart in conflict with itself. Not a single character has had an AHA or EUREKA moment. Neither will Arya. I think she will be forced to kill her mother for good Likely in defense of Jon as I think Stoneheart will hate him more now than ever and will not let him have Robb's crown. And this will drive a wedge between Arya and Jon. I don't think Arya will interact with Dany. I think book will follow show and Sansa will be at odds with Dany.

On the Arya and Daenerys point I just re-read ACOK and their inverse-mirror is clear in there. Arya is in the conflict seeing how horrible it is and living the actual situation of Westeros while Daenerys sits in Quarth fantasizing about the wrath she’ll bring to it oblivious to how people there live. Arya will be converted to an agent of justice by her on the ground experiences while Daenerys will sit and order the deaths of thousands thinking she is a just one. I can see Arya killing Daenerys as a feasible possibility with this in mind.

I freaking adore Lady Stoneheart I just hope it doesn’t turn into a Truman Capote situation where he dies before the series near the end Example Truman Capote & Unanswered Prayers

Arya didn’t kill all the frey’s, she left the women to tell the story.

Great video! I have nothing to add to the conversation. Just showing appreciation :)

I think Arya is going to massacre the Frey’s, but I doubt they’ll be eliminated. There are just too many of them and all over the place.

the night that arya kills that guard was also what really set the diff and made me hate the show more. that guard in harrenhal was offered a coin, she drops it, and slit his throat, and watches him die and attempt to scream through his bloodfilled throat. everything about that description implies deep down arya is fully observing and aware of the violence she just inflicted, and is on the verge of being horrified, but not quite, bc she's seen this all too often. so instead she's numb to the horror she inflicted. its a part of her life now. its her new normal. and the description screams about how terrifying that is, especially for a child. violence from trauma. you captured it perfectly here, n def relayed what a lot of people felt watching her house of black and white arc get butchered

I hope you are correct in much of this... but I also admire your belief that the book series will EVER be finished. Heck, right now most of us wouldn't put good odds on the next BOOK ever coming out. :(

Lady Stoneheart is the body manifest of the Old God's as associated with the rules of hearth. This is to contrast the power of The New God. Please note, Lady was even punishing anyone who helped the Lanister's, even the ones she had oath bound. Arya will be leaving Lady alone. I believe Lady will eventually make her way to Winterfell crypts and pass her power to another or be the Mother of the First Children rebirth. Just my 2 cents.

Dragon Queen vs Shadow Queen

Fantastically done. Not to overstep bounds or step on toes, but I'm working on a bit of a Littlelfinger youtube project atm myself, if you'd be inclined to grace me with a discussion I would be most grateful. I'm very curious to hear your thoughts and analysis on Littlefinger both as to where the character is going but also as to what his narrative place is in the tale. No hard feelings either way but if you feel like a palavering about the ol' Baelish drop me a line or message or greendream or what have you. As always I am in admiration of your great videos!

I think your pretty spot on till you get to Dany. I don’t see Arya being the one. My hope is that Dany does it kind of herself after realizing the innocence she’s done damage to

I also thing lady stone heart might be an example of how Jon snow can go pure revenge seeking when he is brought back

Also, does the book give any insight as to why Beric sacrifices him own life for her? Is it love or Rhllor said to?

What do you mean Lady Stoneheart is _sometimes_ with the Brotherhood Without Banners? I thought LSH was now leading the Brotherhood in place of Beric.

D&D aren't completely wrong that the Lady Stoneheart plot would have likely spoiled Jon's resurrection, buuuuut 1) most viewers never believed he was actually dead anyway so it didn't really matter in the end and 2) it would have made Jon's transformation a lot more dramatic and interesting to have Catelyn as a foil. Not just for their differences (Jon does not come back as a wrathful wraith) but also their similarities. Jon post resurrection is not the same person, he is sort of a shell of his former self and he seems even more burdened with life and his sense of duty than before. But this doesn't translate well on the show, for many reasons.

I like how this video never mentions brienne or Jamie not even once despite how pivotal lady stone heart is to these two characters.

lady stoneheart vs a ressurrected jon snow idealistic Jon will also change a lot

Is this really what the showrunners said about the exclusion? "We don't want to spoil Jon's resurrection"? Uhm, you guys included Beric who was literally resurrected on screen l o l

Of course they all have PTSD. As much as we try to do better bc we know better nobody is a perfect parent or child.

My bet is that the scene with the 3 phrase is Aria and then the former lady start is the one behind the mass killing. I would also suspect that turns Aria against her own mother and causes her to end the revinant.

Time to remake got and bring lady stone heart

It’s a shame that we will probably never find out

I must confess, I don't know much about George RR Martin's personal life. It's rare to find someone his age to be as 'switched on' to the concepts of mental health and inter-generational trauma in the way that you describe in your video. Thought provoking video, thank you.

Oh I hope you are right

Arya killing Daenerys, “the ‘Prince’ that was promised”, with the Valyrian dagger that was passed down along with the Prince that was promised prophecy would be quite the irony.

1:40 Yeah, I think Young Griff exclusion would be a more impressive plot and thematic change than Lady Stoneheart's, so curious to see where it's going to go.

Perfect

Arya killing the Freys' one of the many things I don't like about the show, it misses Arya's morality, she doesn't just kill out hatred, there's a duty about it that she feels (much like all the Starks) you are not allowed to desert the Wall for instance. Or you'll die, I believe it's why she was chosen and also why she'll be released (under supervision) because the faceless man know all that happens in Westeros and as of the fifth book I believe they know what's going to happen in the north

Arya will learn the truth about "Littlefinger's bastard daughter". Arya will make sure that Stoneheart knows.

Arya travels West. Danys corpse travels east. Even in the show these 2 are opposites.

The Hound is now a repentant monk.

I really loved the Young Griff thread that is going in the books and I'm sad both of these were omitted in the show. lady stoneheart in particular would have been such an awesome storyline

Why does Mrs. Stoner lead the Bannerless Homies? As in why do they follow her - who is she to them 🤔

Only Arya can release the spirit of the mother who wanted her to be a girly girl. and she will realize she loved her mother and did not know it. It's going to be heartbreaking.

As much as we all love the storylines they will remain unfinished.

Yes 👍

this also makes sense about why catelyn was resurrected at first place.

B&W just clearly didn't understand the characters, their arcs, or even the ASOIAF universe itself. They were show runners, making an HBO show with carte blanche for the levels of sex and violence they could include, and used it not to expose something about the characters or some moral lesson like ASOIAF does, but to draw an audience and generate publicity. I like this theory. On some level, I did and do think that within the truncated arcs of the show, Arya training to be one of the most deadly assassins- not a fighter, knight, or warrior but an assassin specifically- makes sense for her final big act to be to kill the NK. And also for her to go exploring west of Westeros, since she idolized the legendary Queen Nymeria so much (though- why couldn't they have just had Gendry go with her? Would have been a cute nod/Easter egg to the Baratheons that got lost at sea.) But in the books with a fully realized arc, Arya has to come to the conclusion that her list and crossing it off is not going to bring her family back. It's not going to bring her satisfaction or pride or whatever else she's been telling herself it will to make it through her brutal training. And I think her reunion and temporary collaboration with Lady Stoneheart will be a visceral lesson in that reunification with what she has lost would only bring perverse pain and keep her locked into her past, constantly retraumatizing herself. She is a child soldier, as they exist in ASOIAF. Though as a Daenerys fan I don't want her to become a Big Bad, if she does, Arya killing her in an act of justice for the living, rather than vengeance for the dead would be a good way for her to complete her circle, so to speak, and then hopefully move on- maybe even by becoming some version of a lady, like she always thought she didn't want. Maybe she and Gendry will go sailing after all.

This is way too hopeful for a book we'll never get. Would be cool though

Around the time Lady Stoneheart should've entered the story but didn't is when I lost interest in the show and eventually dropped it. I'm not a huge GOT fan, I haven't even read all the books, but I knew just enough to see that their choice to cut her was a big mistake. Combined with the other strange adaptional choices they were making at the time I wasn't surprised when everything went to shit in the following seasons.

I do wonder how much will Arya absorb of the ideology/faith of the faceless men. Should she become convinced by them (likely as a pre-teen/teen mind is quite easy to brainwash), how will she react to her mother losing the gift of death?

personally Arya destroying the Frey is my favorite and most satisfying moment of the show.We cannot put our modern morals into a fantasy show based on a time of our history where vengeance was the norm and was expected.but i agry that lady stoneheart not being in the show was a big mistake and probably changed Arya story line a lot.

This is basically about Arya, not Lady Stoneheart.

What is Lady Stoneheart has a moment with both her girls and they both have to mercy kill their mom and in a fucked up way they'll finally start the bridge of change in their relationships

It's actually amazing how much they made me hate Arya by the end, I used to love the character but they took a conflicted anti-hero character and turned her into a smug murder machine.