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How Center of Gravity Affects Flight | Tail Down Force | Aircraft Stability 

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Did you know you can make your aircraft go faster if you move some weight towards the rear? Changing the center of gravity changes changes the amount of lift needed and drag produced, and it also affects how stable the aircraft is, and what speed it will stall at. We'll look at all of these effects on the airplane of where the center of gravity is.
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Комментарии : 81   
@rickestabrook4987
@rickestabrook4987 2 года назад
Outstanding. This whole concept is usually made in a complicated, muddling progression of principles and explanation. You have once again cracked the code for comprehension and more important, application.
@jonathantwining3799
@jonathantwining3799 Месяц назад
From an ATP/CFII and former flight school chief pilot, I have always been disappointed with most resources that try to explain W&B, and find most CFIs do not properly understand the concepts when they start instruction. This is the most comprehensive and clear explanation and I wish it was required for all pilots to watch! Well done.
@keithmeline7485
@keithmeline7485 Год назад
I’m a current student and I absolutely love this explanation. Seriously, every ground school/audiobook/podcast has basically said what to memorize when it comes to CG, but this video actually shows you, plus your explanation is very easy to understand of the more important WHY. Things really clicked when you showed a forwarded loaded airplane and how (because of this) it would easily recover in a stall. And the opposite with a CG on the CP getting you to that critical AOA faster.. yet harder to recover ect. Anyway this was exactly the explanation I needed and will be sure to share with others. Thanks!!
@Homoskedastic1
@Homoskedastic1 Год назад
First time coming across your channel. I'm a trained CFI myself (as well as a university lecturer and educator for my career), and I just wanted to congratulate you on an exceptional video. Very impressive resource. The script, the graphics, the pedagogical approach as well as the scaffolding were first class. Well done! Off to look at your other videos now hoping they are just as excellent.
@kylebeatty3466
@kylebeatty3466 2 года назад
The best explanation of CG I’ve seen or read. I found information on on take off - CG vs landing gear particularly interesting.
@christiangraves9340
@christiangraves9340 Год назад
you guys are seriously the best and helped me understand concepts like this throughout my pilot training
@RegularItemShow
@RegularItemShow 9 месяцев назад
Just busted my oral because I said aft CG will make it harder to recover from a stall, but did not mention that it also gives the aircraft better performance since less lift is required. (I also blanked on who to call before takeoff during a tfr, clearance delivery, and incorrectly stated that SVFR needs instrument rating..without stating night or day). I did "pass" the rest of the oral. So the retake will just cover these 3 areas.
@RegularItemShow
@RegularItemShow 7 месяцев назад
If anyone reading this is curious, I went back and did the 3 questions I missed, then flight portion. Am a pilot now.
@jonathanb.1215
@jonathanb.1215 3 месяца назад
@@RegularItemShowcongrats 🎉
@thenelsonbruhs722
@thenelsonbruhs722 3 месяца назад
@@RegularItemShowfor your private ride?
@tomevans5
@tomevans5 Год назад
Well done. Clear, concise, and most importantly... accurate.
@TridentCapital
@TridentCapital Год назад
Super clear explanation!
@haithemesmail5547
@haithemesmail5547 15 дней назад
What a great video. I have my CPL skill test tomorrow, and was not 100% sure how to explain why forward cg had the influence on the stall speed and fuel flow. Thanks to you, I feel much more confident. Cheers!
@marc-andrefortier1869
@marc-andrefortier1869 Год назад
Really well explained, great work!
@IanHorsford
@IanHorsford 2 года назад
Bro you are a phenomenal instructor👏🏾👏🏾
@E39520IA
@E39520IA Год назад
Nice and clear explanation. Thank you!
@jakew9887
@jakew9887 2 года назад
Excellent presentation. Thanks
@xXSiNiSteRXx1
@xXSiNiSteRXx1 2 года назад
I'm very impressed with how this was explained like no other video. I feel like I almost got it. So will be rewatching this later today. Thank you. P.S I will be checking out the website.
@yuval159
@yuval159 2 года назад
Juat want to let you know how much i appreciate you guys thanks !
@clydecessna737
@clydecessna737 19 дней назад
Very well explained.
@Uncommon_Sense01
@Uncommon_Sense01 2 года назад
Great explanation, thanks!
@devansh8846
@devansh8846 2 года назад
Thanks for such informative videos👍🏻
@nataliesanchez7997
@nataliesanchez7997 11 месяцев назад
rad video- not even finished watching it and already makes sense and subscribed haha! thx
@dmarcodegross
@dmarcodegross 6 месяцев назад
Very good explanation, excellent video
@smsfrancis
@smsfrancis 3 месяца назад
Excellent video
@stacereading2477
@stacereading2477 Год назад
Great video while studying fort ppl, thanks!
@davidwallace5738
@davidwallace5738 10 месяцев назад
Outstanding. Thank you!
@jordanthomas5353
@jordanthomas5353 4 месяца назад
This is an excellent video
@Darryl_P_
@Darryl_P_ 2 года назад
Great video
@clayton4115
@clayton4115 21 день назад
Very interesting ! Easy for an novice to follow.
@BerndSchmitt-Martinique
@BerndSchmitt-Martinique 2 года назад
Excellent! It can't be done better! Greetings from Germany
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 2 года назад
Thanks for joining!
@luiscosme1154
@luiscosme1154 Год назад
It feels so good to understand this finally! lol... Thank you!
@hemalghedia3713
@hemalghedia3713 2 года назад
Amazing!!!
@wangbang2356
@wangbang2356 Год назад
Very good!
@Valentin_MeL
@Valentin_MeL 8 месяцев назад
Very nice explanation of cg. So both bars green and white is calculated to max take off weight. I am curious is this also true for any other plane. For example primary flight displays and it's red bars in A320 or B737?
@ParamjitSingh-fb3ou
@ParamjitSingh-fb3ou Год назад
GREAAAAAT Knowledge.
@guliyevshahriyar
@guliyevshahriyar 10 месяцев назад
thank you
@benjaminmartz3595
@benjaminmartz3595 2 года назад
Not a pilot but I learn a bunch from you guy's. Hopefully one day I get to start training for my private.
@js9550
@js9550 2 года назад
Just do it. Dont wait or you never will
@miguelgt2010
@miguelgt2010 2 года назад
@@js9550 he is probably saving money or doesnt have the economic stability to do the ppl, its not as easy as "just do it"
@michaelboerger671
@michaelboerger671 Год назад
I love this video
@adiliraliyev5882
@adiliraliyev5882 Год назад
Thanks!
@user-kd8ru2wu2k
@user-kd8ru2wu2k 11 месяцев назад
So good
@jr800w
@jr800w Год назад
I still don't quite understand how the CoG is where the plane swings around in flight or at least pitch around. Maybe for the other axis such as yaw and rotating. I keep thinking that the CoL is where the plane pitches around. I bit like a see saw is held up by a rope which provides enough strength to counter gravity and this see saw has a heavier short left arm vs a longer lighter right arm but the moments balance out. As you start loading the left side, it becomes heavier and will start to dip towards the left but is then balanced out by adding a corresponding load on the right. To apply this to a plane on the ground, the weight is held up by the main wheels and nose wheels. You load up the plane and it doesn't collapse on the nose because it is still held up by the nose wheel. As you take off and the wings start generating lift, the force of off-setting the gravity is transferred from the wheels to the wings, and as you pull back on the controls gently it applies a downforce on the horizontal fins which increases the moment of the right side. Lift force continues to increase and the planes ascends. Obviously it is way more complicated than that given the dynamic relationships between lift force, COG, moment and arms not to mention also CoL shifts back and forth and so does the CoG. But that's just how I see it intuitively without having to bust my brains studying it at the mathematical level.
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 2 года назад
Placement of the landing gear vis a vis the CG also affects landing characteristics. Look at long body vs short body MU2s as an example. The former is fairly easy to land while the latter takes a different technique.
@FPIPedit
@FPIPedit Год назад
Hello, can you say do we have a calculation for the center of pressure? How can I calculate the place of the pressure center with my hand?
@maritestaylor8458
@maritestaylor8458 Месяц назад
Awesome 😎😎😎😎😎😎 thanks
@jamesmcgurrin8160
@jamesmcgurrin8160 2 месяца назад
what simulation tool is used in this video?
@hmabboud
@hmabboud 9 месяцев назад
WOW!!!!!!! You are the best by farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Can you be my instructor?
@mblaber2000
@mblaber2000 Год назад
A novice here attempting to understand the basics of flight. You state center of pressure is typically 50% chord location. However, other sites seem to state 25% chord location (particularly with symmetric airfoils). I must admit confusion with Cp and center of moment. I notice that in model airplanes that I am familiar with, placing the C.G. at 25% chord typically makes them nose-heavy. Moving to around 30% chord location makes for better flight. Moving C.G. behind Cp seems like a bad outcome; thus, ~50% chord location for Cp seems right to me empirically. Can anyone comment? Thanks
@FlyNAA
@FlyNAA Год назад
I didn't follow the stability-during-a-stall explanation at the 3 minute mark. If we "cut the string" pulling up behind the CG, while the weight acting at the CG remains the same, the body would rotate up and not down. The change in force behind the CG (reducing an upward force) is downward.
@ed2800ed
@ed2800ed Год назад
At 4:04 You said that moving the center of gravity aft towards CP would create almost no tail down force, I think that’s a misleading statement. As far as I can tell, moving the CG aft would Increase tail downforce and require the pilot to increase forward pressure on the controls to lower the angle of attack. Moving the CG aft does not magically change the tail down force, we have to physically apply more pressure forward on the yoke
@rjhinnj
@rjhinnj Год назад
You are getting aerodynamic force confused with weight forces. If the CG is moved back, closer to the CP of the aircraft, you need LESS tail down force (TDF is an aerodynamic force caused by the tail). There is a point if you move the CG behind the CP of the plane to the Neutral Point NP, where the plane is not affected by any pitch control of the rear elevator… not a good situation! Many an aircraft and life has been lost due to poor CG placement at or rear of the NP.
@thepenmen22
@thepenmen22 Год назад
So I don't get it, is it better to have a more tail or nose heavy aircraft? Or does it matter on the type of plane? Also, what happens when you're on a long flight and the fuel is decreasing and changing the CoG. How do you account for that?
@FlyNAA
@FlyNAA Год назад
Tail heavy is better for efficiency. Nose heavy is better for stability. The limits are established to respect both. If the CG changes in flight, you just keep controlling the pitch to maintain the altitude you want. You're always controlling it to cont correct for slight bumps, etc. anyway. This is just one more slight disturbance.
@alk672
@alk672 2 года назад
Yes! Yes! One pilot in 10 understands this.
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 Год назад
at :59, cg is at the WING.!!!! c-m is in the fuselage.!!!
@mrrobertwolfiii1079
@mrrobertwolfiii1079 Год назад
Nice recovery Cessna KMTJ hello from
@ShonMardani
@ShonMardani 7 месяцев назад
I believe Parasite drag is produced by VERTICAL surfaces and Induced drag is created by HORIZANTAL surfaces ONLY, please let me know if you think I am correct. Thanks
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 Год назад
at 2:00, you are Incorrectly referring to the c-m as the 'pivot point'. IN FLIGHT, the pivot point is the cg; at the WING.!!!!!
@VanPray
@VanPray 2 года назад
5:53 "More room to pitch up and diminish speed"? Better statement in my opinion. As the CG moves aft, Less tail down force is required, reducing total load, lift requirement of the wing, reducing stall speed. Correct me if Im wrong. Hopefully taken as constructive criticism. Thanks for putting this together. Good work. My 206s elevators are 3deg down from counterweight streamline and use a large elevator down spring to aid the pilot in control forces. This allows the horizontal-elevator to create upward lift with the CG at the aft limit at cruise speeds.
@ShonMardani
@ShonMardani 7 месяцев назад
I think CG in front of CP makes stall recovery easier but the main reason is the speed above the stall speed. For example if a Cessna 172 is in level flight at 70 m/h, if you increase the power and its speed while keeping the wings level, the aircraft will climb as well. To stop the climb in level flights above the stall speed (weight = lift) we need to lower the nose which requires less elevator (less drag) if CG is forward of CP.
@paulhetherington3854
@paulhetherington3854 Год назад
A balanced cg = "No problem, and barrel roll - parachutes || Airplanes.
@Jet-Pack
@Jet-Pack 2 года назад
I'm sorry but parts of this representation are incorrect. You do not need a constant downforce to have a stable airplane! Let me explain: The lift of the wing does not attach at the CP as shown in this video, instead it usually acts at about 25% chord line which is in front of the CP of the wing+tail configuration. Any increase in lift on the wing produces a pitch up moment and a decrease in lift pitches the plane down, e.g. in a stall condition. And the correlation is inverted for the tail, because it is located aft of the CG. A wing with positive camber also produces a moment that pushes the nose down (Cm0). The tail also has a Cm0 but it's usually zero unless the tail has camber as well. Looking at the new equilibrium moment equation this yields: L_wing * distance( 0.25 chord_wing, CG ) + Cm0_wing = L_tail * distance( 0.25 chord_tail, CG) + Cm0_tail To have a stable airplane the right hand side just has to grow quicker than the left hand side as angle of attack increases. And because the moment arm of the tail is soooo much larger than that of the wing you can have a positive wing and positive tail surface lift and the longer tail arm with the increase tail lift still pushes the nose down. This balance is affected by the tail surface area, wing surface area, distance of the center of pressure of the wing and tail surface as well as the downwash effects of the wing onto the tail and other effects such as propwash. Example: You have an angle of attack of 0 degrees. The wing still produces lift because it has a positive camber, lets assume the tail is symmetrical and cm0 and down wash are irrelevant, then the tail produces zero lift. Now if you increase the angle of attack your wing produces more lift but the tail also sees a positive angle of attack and it too produces an upforce, not a downforce. The tail upforce pushes the nose down with a very long moment arm where as the extra lift of the wing is located close to the CG and doesn't add that pitch up moment. This configuration is stable even if the tail produces an upforce.
@alk672
@alk672 2 года назад
Well I guess their explanation still kind of holds if you don't take "downforce" to always be positive. Obviously it's about the balance between the two down(up) forces and the gravity, and certainly tail won't produce literal downforce under many flight conditions, but I think their version is accurate enough (and easy to understand/remember).
@Jet-Pack
@Jet-Pack 2 года назад
@@alk672 My issue with it is that most people and pilots think the tail only produces a down force because a textbook told them so. Most textbooks are not correct in this regard though. It's like you get more lift when you add flaps but in reality lift is still just as large as before, because it equals the weight. Your just flying at a lower speed or lower angle of attack.
@alk672
@alk672 2 года назад
​@@Jet-Pack well aren't all widely used training materials for pilots basically a bunch of BS when it comes to aerodynamics, or weather, or pretty much anything else? Have you seen the explanation of transonic aerodynamics and shockwaves in PHAK? It's basically satire. The target audience is not technical enough for any explanations to be real, so it is what it is.
@moeinmemphis
@moeinmemphis 2 года назад
But to increase the angle of attack, you have to increase the downforce to the tail, don’t you? And if the wing produces a nose-down moment when producing lift, don’t you need a down force on the tail to counteract that moment? Am I just confused?
@Jet-Pack
@Jet-Pack 2 года назад
@@moeinmemphis The pitching moment can also decrease as you increase angle of attack, depending on airfoil. If the aircraft is stable then you need more downforce to increase angle of attack yes. But then as angle of attack rises and the tail also sees that increase in angle of attack you decrease the downforce on the tail again and a net positive tail surface lift might remain.
@paulhetherington3854
@paulhetherington3854 Год назад
TDF >> ttCH'f' -- Native origin - of dialect and, made. No US(taxans) - own any - SHT'! In our landmas.
@sblack48
@sblack48 11 месяцев назад
There is so much wrong with this I don’t know where to start. Any aeronautical engineer would shake his head at this. You can have an upload on the tail or a download and still be perfectly stable. Stability and trim are often confused when pilots try to explain engineering and that’s what is happening here. The stability equations don’t even include center of pressure. It only comes up when flight instructors try to explain trim and stability which they inevitably jumble together into a dog’s breakfast that “makes sense” to them but has no bearing on reality.
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 Год назад
at 1:52, this is gobbledy-gook and misinterpretation of reality. NO moment is produced by a stab (at zero-degrees aoi). like cg, the center of lift/pressure Should be at THIRTY percent. googletranslate
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 Год назад
information. at :53, in order to balance, the vertical line should connect with the wing at THIRTY percent of chord. the distribution of mass (dom) of a typical, conventional, aircraft NEEDS to be OPTIMIZED, so that the location of the center of mass (c-m) vertically aligns with 25 percent of chord. ideally, the c-m should also be ON the thrust line. ideal location of c-m indicated, in this illustration. googletranslate s3.amazonaws.com/assets.flitetest.com/article_images/medium/truecg-jpg_1384168691.jpg if the center of MASS of an aircraft is 'too' near the cg, an aircraft will be Less stable. this is a reason that most fighter jets are inherently less stable.
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