How CRISIS Failed Oliver Queen | CW's Crisis On Infinite Earths 

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God damn. He died twice, AND DIGGLE WASN’T THERE FOR EITHER OF THEM!

I do like the fact that Oliver queen is the spectre. I feel like his story about someone who started off just barely getting by fighting street level criminals ending with him becoming the ultimate power in the universe was a really great conclusion.

now the arrow has ended Stephen amell is free to speak. he said he was annoyed and disappointed by legends show runners and others which led to poor handling of Oliver's death.

Honestly Oliver carried the arrowverse so hard

I know he was the Spectre.... but I really felt like he was a master Jedi the whole time.

10 years from now when people are watching arrow on Netflix they will say “ WTF is going on with season 8? Arrow went from a gritty Batman type show to this crazy sci-fi silly show!”

The Fifth episode should’ve been the characters reacting to Oliver’s death and living on the same Earth as well as the battle with the reverse flash that was supposed to occur. Also loved the Ezra Miller cameo in episode 4. It was so unexpected.

I didn't wanna say it because I loved a lot of the crossover but man, they did my boi Oliver dirty. First, they kill him TWICE which cheapens the whole "you're gonna die in crisis" thing. Then they have him die surrounded by nobody (apart from Barry and Sara) who really knew him, his daughter just met him, Supergirl barely knows him etc. DIGGLE WASN'T THERE TWICEE. Lastly, he died as something other than the Green Arrow. In the end, he was the Green Arrow in name alone and regardless of how cool or powerful Spectre is, it wasn't the hero we watched for almost a decade and that was the biggest injustice of all.

You’re laughing? Next year’s crossover won’t have Arrow to carry it and you’re laughing?

The one thing that stuck out to me was they never even showed what The Spectre can do. Literally all he did when he came back is: - touch Barry's nose - hugged the Anti-Monitor - uh died

Brandon Routh returning as superman is probably my favotire thing ive seen the CW do. Especially when he switches to his suit and the classic superman theme starts to play.

I don’t even watch arrow. I watched like 1 episode with my dad, and I watched all of the flash. But even if you just consider the crossovers, Oliver is the best character there

“Go out with a BANG” shows two people banging lmao

Oliver Queen was the one who said you have failed this universe, not Spectre. Spectre is just the power, not the personality I liked how they did it.

Oliver queen is like the first superhero I felt a deep emotional connection to. I have so many memories of sitting down and watching arrow. Takes me back.

Wouldn’t it had been cool if instead of having the bebo fight and weather witch the reverse flash came up and Barry and him fought. Then they could show off the new earth in the speedster fight and we could actually have the fight that was teased since the very first episode of flash. He could get stuck there making the news paper saying he vanished be true and the legend could pick him up like a week later so then it could have a focus on them since it is their episode.

I really have no idea how this is my favorite CW crossover but yet the one I have the most problems with

The Black Lightning episode before Crisis actually showed his Earth getting destroyed in real time, and his reaction to it.

“Go out with a bang” I see what u did there u cheeky man

BRO thanks you so much for pointing the “can i talk to you in a hallway privately for a second”. Its happens literally every single episode in these shows and is a big reason i don’t watch anymore

The Anti-Montor literally grows big and he gets SLOWER. What was THE POINT OF HIM GROWING BIG IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU WERE DOING JUST FINE WHEN YoU WERE SMALL AND NOW YOUR LOSING WHEN YOUR BOG. I just can't think about episode 5 anymore it hurts my soul

Gotta say, way more positive than I expected

I dropped out of all the CW stuff after Flash season 2 and Arrow season 4? I can't even remember---too much to watch. But I saw pictures of that big blue thing and I thought people were just photoshopping that in as a joke. Yeah, what the hell was that?

Chads, I absolutely hated the 5th episode. I found the microverse-ing the Grey Thanos to be simply lazy, as it was such a simple solution to such a complex dude. Also, wasn't that the solution for the first Ant-Man movie? Shrinking the bad guy into nothing? I do agree with the Chad of Chads about them overdoing the "mourning Ollie" thing, and I say cut the scenes where the characters simply say, "Oh, no, he's dead" and keep the ones where they are discussing the effect Oliver actually had on them while and when they were introduced. They should also show the characters trying to readjust to their new Earth. Thanks for reading my rant if you had the patience.

Cw has the world building and character building elements. But they really really really need better writers and a higher budget to iron out those cringe worthy cg fight scenes that are straight outta ps3 games.

Every DC fans just wanna say : *"CW! YOU FAILED THIS CLIMAX"*

The most frustrating thing about this crisis crossover is diggle wasn’t there when he died.

Why oh why couldn't they have made Reverse Flash the antagonist of part 5? Perfect way to end the crisis the same way it began, and to usher in a new era of the Arrowverse.

For me the ending of episode 4 was odd because it felt like the crossover was finished. In my opinion they should have ended at that episode and then for each show, show the outcome.

The reason episode 4 was so great was because Marv Wolfman co-wrote it, you know the original writer of Crisis. He should have written the stories of every episode of Crisis, because episode 4 was so great.

On a high note, I have started watching samurai jack and it is amazing. Season 5 is probably the best animated season of television ever. Genndy Tartokovsky who made the show also wrote the 2003 clone wars series. You don’t even have to watch the whole series. You could just watch the first two episodes and skip to season 5. I just picked and chose the episodes I watched based on the descriptions. There really isn’t much to talk about in a video, but it is definitely worth the watch.

So you’re just not gonna talk about Ezra Flash in the crossover

I'm actually glad you also enjoyed it, and I was with you for 90% of the video. But I really loved the Legends episode because now it feels like we finally have 1 fully connected DC Universe and the scene of them fighting Anti-Monitor (as goofy as the fighting itself is) felt like a comic book come to life and I can't wait to see future crossovers from here. P.S. Legends of Tomorrow is easily a Top 3 Comic book show for me, right under S.H.I.E.L.D. and Daredevil. Not for any of the same reasons, but it's absolute ridiculousness is what makes it fantastic for me

Honestly, CW's Crisis In Infinite Earth looks like a live-action remake of Super Friends with 60s Batman campiness.

Glad to have another Arrow fan (the things you said about him really resonated with me) rather than a typical flash shill. Arrow has been the only show on the CW worth watching for years.

you made some great points

My favourite parts were seeing lucifer, smallville, seeing Oliver in the Speedforce cause the way they filmed it was great and Brandon rouths superman

If Oliver doesn't die in the first part of the movie, he never becomes Spectre and the Anti-Monitor wins.

Black Lightning is my favorite And it sucks that one of those characters who I THOUGHT was going to be important to Crisis didn’t even make a cameo

Legends is actually the funnest and most bonkers CW show (in a good way) - you guys are missing out if you don’t watch it. It’s actually the only show I still follow outside of the crossovers.

Great video. I don't really watch the cw anymore and while this crossover was just ok, the way Oliver went out in episode 4 was kind of perfect. I used to be so into Arrow and seeing this character die was actually kind of sad. But then episode 5 was just a mess.

The whole crossover was a convoluted mess. The writers wanted huge or iconic moments throughout the crossover but consistently wrote themselves into corners by threading it all together with a very weak narrative. "We need a huge twist for episode one!" "Let's kill Oliver now." "Great. But we still have Stephen Amell under contract for the other four episodes." "Uhhhh.. He comes back to life! Lazarus Pit!... Purgatory! He's the Spectre now!"

I 100 % agree. A lot of stuff in the Crisis was poorly written. Episode 5 was a joke... I also dont like how they are always mentioning being in a "crossover".

There should've been a scene in which Spectre-Oliver pulls everyone in the Multiverse to talk with him in the hallway.

The crossover lost me when the flash had to stop mid fight to remind everyone they were in the fight of their lives ..cause it didnt feel like it the had to have someone actually say it..forget failing Oliver .they just failed

To CW and Legends Show runners: "You have failed the Greeeeeeeen Arrow". Honestly Arrow was the one that kept all the shows alive, and the crisis alive. The legends showrunners messed up the finale. Stephen smell was born to play Olive Queen

First video I've seen of yours after seeing you recommend on Twitter for the past few weeks. 👌Good job my guy. I have a very complicated love hate relationship with arrow and could probably make at least a 3 hour rant about seasons 3 and 4.

RIP to Oliver at least he won’t have to suffer botched crossover again

Hey well at least my boy Kevin THE BATMAN Conroy made his live-action debut.

Instead of wasting Time with Beebo they should have had a reverse flash fight.

@browntable the KING with another amazing video. You are my hero bro.

My man you took the words right out of my mouth. It's decided a fan edit will be made, I will try my best.

The crossover should’ve been renamed to “Crisis of Infinite Cameos” or “Filler on Infinite Earths” as that’s largely what it felt like.

The next crossover will be "Crisis of Infinite Lesbians".

Iron man: I sacrificed to save the universe Green Arrow: Ha I saved the multiverse

I just don’t like how Oliver was originally just a normal guy with a bow fighting crime and they turned him into someone else - something else - where he now just shoots lasers and has a weird voice and fights gods and weird alien monster things

From Arrow Season 3-8 Failed Oliver Queen this was just the nail in the coffin

"But let's not forget who let this video possible, audible" *You have failed this video*

Thank you for bringing back that outro music!

Dude your amazing. You made my day!!

top 10 reasons why marc guggenheim is a bigger villain than kathleen kennedy

Smallville and Lucifer with Constantine were the highlights for me

dude. you have no idea how fucking good this is. by far your best upload ever imo

The showrunners confirmed that Oliver is still the Spectre after Crisis. He's basically living in a pocket universe with Felicity until he is needed. So he can and probably will show up again in the future.

The worst thing about Oliver's death is neither Diggle nor Felicity was by his side , we should have at least got Thea by his side at his last time

Thank the lords SOMEONE was able to embody how I felt towards the characters this whole crossever.

The Flash is what pulled me into the Arrowverse and I feel they did my boy dirty. This feels like more like just another crossover Barry is roped into along with other heroes than it did the shadow looming over Barry since season 1 finally catching up to him. I've been waiting for six years only to watch another version of the version of the Flash die because they "never specified which Flash."

Honestly, even if they got Oliver's death right it wouldn't of saved this year's Crisis. The setup was so promising but ended up being just so dull & hokey & nearly all the cameos were pointless & uninteresting. The exception being Kevin Conroy's Batman. Holy Shit that was that good! Infact they should've saved that for a multi-episode run in Batwoman, but it was easily the best part of this year's Crisis to me. The rest of Crisis on Infinite Earths, huge disappointment that was nowhere near as good as Crisis on Earth X

Oliver's deal was to save Barry last year, not this year. I thought you were taking the angle that we know Barry won't die because his show has another 13 episodes, but the angle you took was objectively wrong. Because we were told that Barry was going to die. They emphasized it to the point where when Earth-90 Barry died instead, it made no sense because A: The Monitor knew (I guess should have known) that it would be Earth-1 Barry who dies and B: Out of the billions of futures that Barry saw in The Flash 602, the only one where they save the multiverse was where he died. He saw himself die. There was no way he confused Earth-90 Barry for himself. So no, we didn't think Barry was going to die, we knew. The fact that he didn't is simply something else that was poorly explained or just a flat out plot hole.

The flash is my favorite arrow verse character and I was shocked by his acting not in crisis but In the episode where he sees a baby Nora and she just goes through his hand and is asking to be able to hold her and you can feel the desperation in his voice and eyes and his physical performance

Glad to see another Arrow lover, who was disappointed with how they handled Oliver's death.

I do like how the non-Legends heroes react in confusion during the whole Beebo fight.

Black lightning is good you should watch it at least watch two or three episodes if your not interest just drop it.

I think most people checked out around arrow season 3 and flash season 3. Honestly the new shows don't even feel like they are connected to the first few seasons of arrow or flash

Wow great video with great points

Oliver should’ve disappeared at the end of episode 1 (or died off screen). With the Monitor being unable to reach him, the heroes go to Constantine where they discover that Oliver’s soul is in purgatory. Oliver wakes up to find himself in Lian Yu. This way we would’ve still had Lucifer’s cameo and oliver’s actual death in episode 4 would have had more of an impact.

Great video man! I wish you watched the flash so you could see the best scene of the series since the second season. Also, fantastic acting

Arrow: Oliver Dies Twice

The most shocking thing about all this is that I had no idea that Arrow was still running and that "Arrowverse" is an actual thing.

Crisis on Earth-X was still the best crossover episodes imo. Its so sad because I had so much hope for COIE and I really believed that it could top Earth-X...

The reason I’m so upset about the Batman story is that Kevin Conroy’s first live action Batman; is an asshole only made to improve the worst CW show. But Brandon’s Superman was fantastic

What made The Crossover falter: Marc Guggenheim (the guy responsible for the Abhorrent Story for Green Lantern.)

For someone who doesn’t really watch the other shows I’d say you’re pretty spot on

Crisis on Earth X is still the best crossover of the arrowverse, period

Why can't u be one of the writers for these crossovers I need a Green Arrow movie

Stephen amell has recognized that his fame is becase of the CW so he was asked if he would ever come back to do a cameo say Oliver queen of earth 3 as an example, he said he wold do it, i would imagine when htey finally end Flash, Stephen amell would come back Honestly i would love if he came back as Another Oliver but this Oliver is diffrent, this oliver never became the green arrow but he is still the Hood. still a killer.

Nobody: Most common line in the arrowverse: CaN wE tAlK fOr A mInUeT

I forgot the anti monitor came back in episode 5 until your video 😂 Subscribed

I honestly thought Barry's non-death was insulting. Yes, obviously he wasn't going to die. At least not permanently. But to just straight-up lie to the viewers, and kill a different Flash instead? There are so many better ways they could have went about it. Have him sent to the future or something, IDK.

After endgame: Spider-Man far from home/ every one blipped 5 years later lets make a joke After episode 4 of crisis: Crisis episode 5/ beebo

Great video keep it up

You hit every SINGLE point, definitely agree 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

_Crisis felt like one big disappointment to me. It's what made me finally tune out if the Arrowverse._

5:55 wow someone else who actually enjoyed the batman story and didnt scream how it betrayed batman and kevin because it DIDNT

You are wrong in one thing. Oliver deal with Monitor was about Barry and Kara surviving in Elseworlds. Oliver was going to die anyway, but the deal was that Oliver would do anything to help survive the multiverse. Monitor himself (COIE episode 1) said that what would happen has nothing to do with their deal.

I’m gonna rewatch all crossovers snd then crisis, just for this video. BRB

Comic Pariah: I'm Sympathetic and understandable. CW Pariah: Hi there, I'm just tacked on in here so you think that this resembles the Comics.

Edit: I would have the Paragons be live action versions of the DCAU Justice League. Same actors Honestly, here's how I would have had it go down. Episode 1: Same as before. Episode 2: No Paragon BS, just maybe our heroes going to various Earths to try and evacuate everyone to Earth-1. No cameos from Welling, Conroy, or Routh, unless they are helping with the evacuation. Episode 3: Oliver stays behind in Purgatory, the Flash vanishes, and Pariah sends six heroes to the Vanishing Point that he deems can save the Multiverse, right before Earth-1 and the Waverider are erased.: Supergirl, Batwoman, White Canary, Martian Manhunter, Atom, and Superman. Episode 4: Oliver becomes the Spectre, and meets our six heroes at the Vanishing Point. He then opens a portal to the Speed Force, where Barry steps out from. For us, he's only been in the Speed Force for a month. But for him, he's been in for 60 years, without aging a day. He's seen things, and he is far wiser than when he vanished. Oliver and Barry explain that the Speed Force is the key to defeating the Anti-Monitor. They go back in time, and momentarily stop him long enough to reboot the universe. Then, Spectre's eyes flash green, and it cuts to black. Episode 5: Barry, Sara, Kara, J'onn, Clark, Kate, and Ray wake up in the present on the same Earth. Oliver appears and explains to them why things are the way they are. Oliver then says that the fight is not over, and that they will need all the allies they can get for this fight. He sends Barry back in time to retrieve fallen heroes from the timeline: Professor Martin Stein, Captain Cold, XS, and Rip Hunter. He sends Sara and Ray on the Waverider to go to the future and collect the Legion of Superheroes: Mon-El, Saturn Girl, and Winn Schott. Once our past and future heroes are gathered in the present, he sends Kara, Clark, J'onn, and Kate to gather all the heroes they can find. Cisco, Caitlin, Ralph, Diggle, Rene, DInah, Laurel, Mia, Constantine, Nate, Mick, Alex, Nia, Brainy, James, Ragman, Curtis, Jesse, Wally, Jefferson, Anissa, and Jennifer. Our heroes suit up, and prepare for the impending battle. The Anti-Monitor and Spectre grow huge and fight, while the other heroes fight the shadow demons and assist Oliver with the Anti-Monitor. The battle seems to be lost as our heroes are overrun by shadow demons, until a faint green glow can be seen in the sky. It hurtles toward our heroes, and it is revealed to be a ring, that flies onto Diggle's hand. Now a Green Lantern, he is able to turn the tide of the battle. Oliver kills the Anti-Monitor, and having saved his city/world, his soul is at peace, and the Spectre is released from him. His body starts falling to the ground, but Green Lantern catches him. Oliver dies with Diggle and Sara with him. Cut to the Hall of Justice, where seven heroes decide to form a League: The Flash, Supergirl, Batwoman, White Canary, The Atom, Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter. One year in the future, Lex Luthor is shown holding the Book of Destiny, and he brings Reverse-Flash, Alice, Captain Cold, Damien Darhk, and Manchester Black together to form a Legion. Then he says that they have a new ally. In the shadows, a yellow ring illuminates the pink, mustached face of Sinestro.

I find it amusing how people keep saying they "dropped the Arrowverse" or complain about its melodrama. Yet this is unquestionably the strongest DC product since the DCAU and, in terms of shared universe content, it has been a massive success. Say what you want about Crisis, but it was ambitious and pulled off what it set out to do. Also Legends of Tomorrow is just awesome. Praise Beebo!