How Deadly is Joel in The Last of Us? (Game vs Show) 

Some of you wanted to see the breakdown between Joel's infected vs non-infected kills so here's my count: ~Infected~ The Prologue/The Quarantine Zone 4 = 1 When You're Lost in the Darkness The Outskirts 21 = 3 Infected Bill's Town 60 = 0 Long, Long Time Pittsburgh 6 = 0 Please Hold to My Hand The Suburbs 21 = 9 Endure and Survive Tommy's Dam + The University 5 = 0 Kin Left Behind DLC 0 = 0 Left Behind Lakeside Resort 0 = 0 When We Are in Need Bus Depot + The Hospital + Jackson 6 = 0 Look for the Light ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Joel = 123 infected kills Show Joel = 13 infected kills ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Non-Infected~ The Prologue/The Quarantine Zone 18 = 1 When You're Lost in the Darkness The Outskirts 6 = 0 Infected Bill's Town 0 = 0 Long, Long Time Pittsburgh 78 = 3 Please Hold to My Hand The Suburbs 21 = 2 Endure and Survive Tommy's Dam + The University 40 = 1 Kin Left Behind DLC 0 = 0 Left Behind Lakeside Resort 13 = 3 When We Are in Need Bus Depot + The Hospital + Jackson 17 = 17 Look for the Light ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Joel = 193 non-infected kills Show Joel = 27 non-infected kills ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And for Ellie's kills: ~Infected~ Bill's Town 0 = 1 Long, Long Time The Suburbs 2 = 1 Endure and Survive Left Behind DLC 15 = 1 Left Behind Lakeside Resort 28 = 0 When We Are in Need ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Ellie = 45 infected kills Show Ellie = 3 infected kills ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Non-Infected~ Pittsburgh 3 = 0 Please Hold to My Hand Tommy's Dam + The University 5 = 0 Kin Left Behind DLC 13 = 0 Left Behind Lakeside Resort 18 = 2 When We Are in Need ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Ellie = 39 non-infected kills Show Ellie = 2 non-infected kills ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm disappointed show joel didn't have a scene where he cuddled with a brick or bottle. We all know he loves bricks and bottles more than he does Ellie and even Sarah.

Love the juxtaposition of Joel fighting for his life while Bill and Frank live their best lives together

Now we do the differences between Joel’s kills in the first game and Ellie’s kills in the second game

Well, Joel felt a lot less violent in the show than he is in the game, but still, considering how grounded in reality the show feels, its crazy that he killed 40 people/infected

The contrast between Bill's storyline in the game and show is hilarious

A small nickpick that I have with the show is when the cannibal dude refers to Joel as a "Crazy man" since he only killed one in their group barely and in self defense.

I can't belive joel didn't say his iconic line "We truely are the last of us Ellie" after killing 50 random guys with a brick in the show. Zero outta ten. Nice video tho my guy :D keep it up!

the transition between ep3 and bill's town had me dying

As I played the games in 2013, I didn't think much of him being in his 50s.. But as I'm now in my 30s, there's no way I would have Joels strenth and stamina in 20 years. I'm glad that the adaption didn't make him an unstopable old hulk. I was a bit concerned that they weren't going to make him brutal, but it makes sense that they were leading up to the bloodbath in episode 9.. If he was killing countless men each episode it wouldn't have that punch at the end.

The bill’s town section vs show was legit hilarious great work

I replayed the mission 3 times just to give David what he really deserved and it still felt like it was not enough. Really had me caring about some pixels

They made Joel alot less deadly and harmful in the show To me, I think that's because they wanted the masses to really love him and not think he's a massacring psychopath But also Pedro Pascal is too wholesome for that so

In both the game and show, when Joel says "you'll just come after her" man....shit gets me every time

I genuinely had no clue that you were a small youtuber with how good of an idea this video was and how entertaining it was you have 100% earned a sub and like keep up the good work brother

I love when Joel Said, it's Joeling time. Best line ever

Can’t believe they cut out so much of the buildings and subway scenes with Joel, Ellie, and Tess.

I think I like Troy Baker’s Joel a bit more so then Pedro’s. However, they are both pretty good. Each bringing their own touch to the character.

I feel alot of people in the comments think that the show is more grounded because of this and that the game has a bunch of NPCs to kill just for gameplay but its also a plot point. Its remarked on many times in the game about how Joel kills an unusual amount of people and that he has remarkable skills that everyone else doesnt. NPCs are scared of him and confused by lines like "there better have been an army in that truck" "the others were slaughtered by a crazy man" and "your friend killed how many people?" Along with "The others are dead, some f*ckin tourist took them out" "how the hell did they manage to take them all out" and Ellies line of "at least theyre scared of us". I feel they could have easily incorporated Joels brutality and intimidation into the show by ackowledging how odd it is he's so skilled and having his actions back it up.

lmao the bill's town comparison is so funny. i love the new bill and frank story :,)

I love the super intense music for the game section with bill cut with peaceful piano for the bill and frank show section I love it just so much

Nice video. During the long long time section I liked what you were doing with changing the music based on the action in the game vs the show, but I would suggest making the music a little louder as it was kinda hard to tell you were even doing that and I think making the music louder would emphasize the gag more. Just my suggestion though, still a good video

I'd be interested to compare Joel's total game kills to Ellie's from parts I and II

I appreciate the humor injected with the subway hat and the ranch dressing. It doesn't ruin the flow either.. Nicely done sir.

Honestly, no tears were shed from me when it came to the show. I didn’t care about the characters involved with it, seemed real’ corny. But the game, they actually pulled at the heartstrings constantly with all of the betrayal to the small lines thrown in here and there, throughout scenic views mostly. One of my favorite parts being that they were walking through the museum and having a good father to daughter time within the game. Another reason why I don’t like the show version is that they have protagonist health - OP view such as when Joel is straight back to fighting even with a deep internal wound unlike Joel from the game who takes a while to recover.

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This was a really well put together video, really funny

Great video! It truly puts Joel's characterizations into perspective. In the game, to save Ellie, he kills less than 10% of his total. In the show, his count almost doubles. To add to that, game Ellie killed like four times more people than Joel did in the Firefly Lab. This makes their last exchange in the game and in the show leave a different impact.

It’s a little funny Ellie has more kills in the game than Joel in the show.

Bills town in the game: mass genocide Bills town in the show: look at them eating strawberries together aww so cute aww so sweet

The only one you missed Joel only technically killed and that was the passenger of the vehicle which he caused to crash and explode when he shot the driver

Joel was so brutal in the game, and such a bigger badass. However, they can only do so much in the show. Albeit, I see more kills in Resident Evil and other apocalypse shows/media, then I do in this show. So compared to most, this shows action is incredibly tame

Baaahahahhaa oh my god the bit with bills town where you switch between the two VERY different moods 😂😂 I’m ded

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It makes a ;lot of sense the difference, I mean can you imagine them trying to fit that all into the show and in the game have not all those kills? Its a big difference but a needed one due to the different in video games and shows. btw love this vid :D

Sweet video man!

Love the videos man!

Great video once again!

Magnificient Work !

Joel was so much more bad ass in the game. The show softened him a lot, and Pedro Pascal is too lovable to come off that stoic and dangerous.

Amazing video bro! Crazy you dont have more subs!

Great video idea 🔥

That’s kind of crazy cause on my latest play through, I finished with more or less a thousand kills but that’s cause I went on normal difficulty and did a kill everything play through. the body count gets crazy when you get multi kills on some segments that have infinite infected respawning. There’s one in bills town when you first meet him and another one right before you enter the high school basement.

love your editing it made me laugh and i didnt know joel was a pacifist on hbo

I can't believe Rick from The Walking Dead shows up in the last episode, he was so confused and then just vanished

I like to believe the single change of the infected being more dangerous, had a ripple effect on the psychology of the game characters, making them more desperate and cruel just to survive.

You actually did miss a kill. In the HBO Show when Ellie shoots the man who grappled Joel in Episode 4, you didn’t count when Joel finished him off

one thing. Joel had insanely more kills and destructiveness back when he and Tommy was still in the fireflies

Well, the answer to "who's more deadly" it's pretty obvious to me. In the videogame, when other groups or enemies encounter the aftermath of Joel's actions, they often assume that it was the result of a confrontation between two rival groups rather than the work of a single individual. Joel in the game is literally a one man army. P.S: I edited the comment to make my point clearer

By the time I was at bills town I had 477 kills

I love how you said "now talk!" Like batman does after he beats a criminal into a vegetable

Thank you for this.

Awesome breakdown sir, it inspired me to do my own kill count where I went all out and got every kill I could in the game. Here's my breakdown. Throughout the game my count is as follows. Joel: 193 Infected kills 119 runners 51 clickers 17 stalkers 6 bloaters 255 (insane numbers here) Human kills 15 smugglers 27 fedra soldiers 123 Pittsburgh hunters 28 bandits (tommy's dam chapters) 33 cannibals 26 fireflies (including Marlene) 3 doctors (yep...) Ellie: 68 infected kills (includes gameplay kills where she got a couple with takedowns) 38 runners 25 clickers 4 stalkers 1 bloater 62 humans kills 3 Pittsburgh hunters (1 in the cutscene and 2 where she sniped them in the plaza) 59 cannibals I'm confident I got every kill I could here and even went out my way at some points like where Ellie's getting chased by the cannibals you can go back and shoot the two who come after her. Also this was done on grounded. Safe to say the game went a bit overboard with the violence and I can understand why the show toned it back a bit for realisms sake.

I don't know how many hours you must have spent on this, good job. Epic video

Great video, but I think you should have made separate lists for infected vs. human kills.

The way Joel just flings Ellie to the ground is hilarious. Nice first impression indeed Joel.

im new here and seeing your videos i really like it and gotta say your great

The constant tone shifts between clips of Bill’s Town and Long Long Time is unreasonably funny.

I feel like the show had less violence to make that final hospital scene have more effect on the viewer

I was surprised by how much they toned down the combat skills of Joel in the show. In the game, he was like Liam Neeson's character Bryan Mills from the movie Taken. Incidently, based on the Taken trilogy, I think Liam Neeson would've made an excellent Joel. And I'm frankly a little surprised that apparently nobody approached him for the role. But I guess it makes sense they toned down Joel's character in the show, given that in the show he's 56 years old, and while he certainly isn't a pansy by any means, a 56 year old man isn't gonna have the same physical capability and resilience he did when younger. Age catches up with everyone. What I did think was a mistake on the part of the show is it rushed through the first season. They should've stretched it over two seasons, I think.

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One little thing I noticed is that whenever the show recreates a scene from the game 1:1, they flip the scene horizontally

I can't believe Tess and Joel didn't say their famous lines "We need just one more big score Aurther. Have some God damn faith!" Truly disappointing 2 bananas out of 10 grapes.

Great video! Coulda sworn you would have had more subs than what you currently have with the quality this video shows! One suggestion I have is that the ding sound you used often was so loud and harsh to my ears! Otherwise, great vid!

Haven't watched the show yet but it looks promising, also you jokes made me laugh.

That’s n amazing juxtaposition the different telling of Bill and Frank rofl …but I’m glad I got both versions

I like my Joel's being able to kill bloaters.

The reverse uno card made me lol.

Love the emotional damage...that's like the other name for this game.

I may not like the show very much but you did a great job with this video. Keep up the good work!

I literally just noticed first and last episodes make the full sentence of fireflies. fuck.

Holy shit those bells were loud

I think that the taming down of the violence makes sense. It's better to only kill when you have to in scenarios where bullets and people might be limited. Also the show focuses a lot on the story, and doesn't have to include gameplay segments. While it is sad that the show had to cut some content, the new content it added much makes up for it.

In the game, Joel is a force to be reckoned with. In the show, he’s a regular apocalypse-survivor guy who just keeps getting lucky.

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Joel's bodycount just went dozens higher by the finale.

Fun fact, you only HAVE to kill like 20 people (without glitches)

Number of kills in the game can be found out by taking the number of most people possable to kill and least people to kill, then add them together then divide by two, if a decimal round down.

Well, he’s no Part 2 Ellie, but he’s no slouch…

You forgot about the passenger in the truck that was ramming cars chasing Ellie, they definitely in the explosion which Joel caused

I guess the main reason why in the show he isn’t as deadly is because it doesn’t make sense why a construction worker suddenly becomes John Wick. I think they should’ve hinted more at Tommy and Joel leaving special forces or navy seals or something before getting into construction work, I know they said Tommy done tours with the army but at least then they could’ve been more badass. It doesn’t make much sense in the show that Joel is shown being more vulnerable but still manages to wipe out all the fireflies at the end.

I would do impassable kills where it’s impossible not to kill them since it’s the only way to move foward towards the gameto, plus cutscenes, but if it’s one that you can easily avoid, that one should be take out since it could be him taking it stealthy

Joel put the fire in firefly 🔥💀

Great job with this video. Gave it a like and you just earned a sub from me!👍

That og mw2 reference, tho🤩

Not deadly at all, really. He always walks down the middle of roads, up the middle of creaky stairs when trying to be quiet, out in the middle of clearings rather than hugging tree lines, and his head is never, EVER on a swivel. TV Joel would never have made it to Boston.

can you add a footnote in the description of how the different killcounts of humans vs infected as well? these totals are cool but id like to know the total non infected killed.

Do this for Ellie when season 2 comes out

You forgot about the two nurses in the surgeon room. Oh wait… maybe that was just me.

Great video. The reason game Joel has way more kills is because of a games need for gameplay. That's like the only reason 😅

Now, how many times did Joel got killed ? Game: Yes Show: Nil In real no spawning ... calculate your move (how cool would it be to start over, can dodge my ex next time pretty easy)

11:09 It's a bit of a stretch, but ellie the rabbit and Bella shot the deer. +1 can be added to both

I think the only thing that is really a discrepancy here is that in the show Joel kills like 5 infected while in the game almost half his kills are infected. To me those kills do not compare 1-1 because the zombies are much more predictable and less deadly due to the lack of guns. Great video though :D liked the comedic comparison in the Bill part

the only one i think you may have missed is in the hbo show, the guy who was with david! ellie used the butcher kn!fe on him! (the man who brought her the medicine)

They NEED a middle season showing the situation with Joel and Ellie in Jackson.

2:48 not sure if I’d count that one as a kill because it could also have been a knockout with the pistol whip

Its kinda funny how the game kill count you got is on the lower end. In some of these sections I didnt even know you could get a kill count that low😂

I never go to the next area until I know the only ones moving is me and Ellie

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To be honest when he died in the 2nd game it didn’t seem good enough Joel is smarter then that and knows not to trust survivors