How did The Burning Crusade Change World of Warcraft? 

best mom ever, call her and tell her that.

Your mom is a gem

I still have my BC:CE

Wonderful woman m8

I remember a guild mate of mine taught her mother how to start his PC and log in to wow for him so he was in the queue already as he came home from school. xD

Graham Larsen I have no idea why in legion the felreaver wasn’t wandering the lands. They missed a trick there. There was one on a leash and that’s it

Hahaha yeah dude and like the noise he makes it’s insane

@Joe W Things that didn't happen.

@Joe W TBC was "live" before the release date, you needed the CD key to play it, I don't know of any bug that let you zone into hellfire and farm mobs, also not sure why you think it was so difficult (that part really screams you misremembering or just making it up) it, you could do hellfire at 58 and the new skills you got at 62+ were not that much of a power increase.

@Joe W You could do the zone at level 58, it was never incredibly difficult especially for a 60 with some gear, I did it on day one, you are misremembering it or you are so awful at the game that you actually think it was hard.

Ten year old me had a blast farming copper in eversong to try and craft some rings

they were really good starting areas that continued to set up your character for like level 25-30

2007 was the best year of my life. hanged out with friends during day then went home to raid at night.and did many all nighters during the summer.

incredibly relateable, my life peaked with TBC. I just hope they don't mess up tbc classic like they did classic.

the year when kanye west became a globally acclaimed phenomenom... in a positive way... those were the good times. 2007 and (coincidentally enough) 2017 were indeed two of the happiest years in my life. from then on it only went downhill with an increasing pace

The sky was what mesmerized me all those years ago... even on a 15 inch CRT monitor, it still looked surreal :) I haven't dared to touched Classic because of work, but if they bring back BC, I'm coming back in the blink of an eye for one last WoW adventure

@@Lavabear120 Yeah one last ride :)

zangarmarsh, nagrand, and netherstorm were my favorites

The was PvP onmy PvE server waiting for the gate. Maybe we missed server only BG's

@@mrillis9259 I mean PvP servers were super fun in TBC, i mean for the first couple months hellfire Peninsula was an absolute madness but that was what was fun about it, Burning Crusade did world PvP so perfectly. Sucks he didn;t mention that in the video. The fact it introduced Objective based World PvP, you had the 3 towers in Hellfire you could capture them and get a buff for the entire faction for rep gain i think it was, then there was the city of Halaa in Nagrand, that you'd have to fight the other faction coonstantly for control of so you could do the quests there to gain rep, use the special vendors, get an extra flight path in the zone, and also a region wide buff that gave 5% damage. I loved Burning Crusade PvP so much.

@@Noobie2k7 I started on a PVP server and loved it!

thats beautiful thank you for sharing

Best gaming experience for me. Quit gaming for good half way into wrath. Only that remains are the memories

One day brother, one day we will have it back on offical servers.

@@starcrunch8855 Even if they bring TBC/WOTLK back, it won't be the same. We remember those expansions because of what we did when they were current content (like Mage's comment), and sadly, there's no way we can't recreate that. (it's been 12+ years after all)

Me too bro

Same with me. I spent hours practically doing nothing and helping lowbies run through dungeons. I would literally eat my dinner by my computer doing absolutely... nothing. Those days are long gone. I tried getting back into wow back in 2010 during Wrath and I lost my drive. I thought about picking classic back up but, I'm just not feeling it. I use to listen to "All American Rejects" when playing WOW. Whenever I hear them, it brings back some very good memories.

Question? Do you play on Earthfury by chance?

@@solidale21 Grobbulus :D

Its very possible that releasing the BC expac will be the next step for classic

@@solidale21 Earthfury REPRESENT

looks like its coming :)

A wise man once said "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!" :)

Male trolls looks like they just wanna end their own suffering

I don't know. Female BE look like they have scoliosis

Chuck lmao 😂

😂 😂😂😂😂

I remember how much the average age of horde players sank when they introduced them. every belf was a squeaker.

Flying was a mistake, honestly.

@@Rhannmah Yea, it has it's ups and downs... I really like the current situation with flying being disabled for half of the expansion and being a convenience during the other half. I must admit, that I'm mostly a PvE player, so I can't talk from a PvP standpoint. It's mostly about the looks and feel for me in the outside world, but walking around and exploring given location for a year and then being able to see it from above is nice.

@@daladirn5119 I don't even play retail, I went straight back to Classic after a 13 year hiatus with a couple days of free time at some point during Mists of Pandaria (I think). But that's one of the main reasons. No flying means you have to actually traverse and interact with the world. Classic feels huge, just getting from one place to another is literally an adventure. In a game about a fantasy world, this is really important. With flying mounts, the world feels MUCH smaller and less interactive because you just ignore most of it.

@@Rhannmah Yup I guess I agree with all you've said, it does feel smaller and you have too little interactions, mostly with other players. Even though I said I'm not really a PvP person, I must say I enjoyed the off-hand enemy player encounter both in classic and on retail. There were fewer of those once retail had flying on again. As for the feeling of the size of the world... From my own experience with both retail and classic, even when flying was disabled, the difference in number of flypoints and the elevation of the area plays a big role. With more flypoints, the area seems smaller, so if you wanna remove flying, you'd want to lower the amount of flypoints as well. As for the elevation, you can create artificial feel of having to travel for longer, if you have to travel a winding path up a mountain as was done in Zul'Dazar in BfA, it lengthens your travel time making the zone feel even larger than it really is.

@@Rhannmah There is a really easy and simple solution to flying... Realms that allow flying and realms that do not allow flying. That way "old schoolers" like you can "interact" to your hearts content. And those of us that do not want to waste 20-30 minutes of play time because we have to walk or ride across 3 or 4 zones can just do our thing and quickly fly there without effecting you in the slightest. Problem solved.

I agree, they were designed with flying being the end game content. Questlines and certain areas only avaible with flying made it so flying really mattered and wasnt just for convenience

It made so much sense with end content being locked for people without flying mounts, and with flying mounts only being usable in those continents. Then again, "we" (the community) asked for global flying mounts, and we got it. Well, except for Ghostlands, Eversong Woods, Azuremyst and Bloodmyst isles.

Klaital1 kara was 25 aswell

@@Pure995 No it wasn't, Kara was 10 man.

@@Pure995 kara was never 25 man lmao wut

I had a war bear on like 4 different chars

3 world bosses too, which i think you could 40 man but im not sure if im remembering that correctly tbh.

Agreed. Everybody's talking about Nagrand, but Zangarmarsh is really where the beauty's at.

@@letzte_maahsname I love both, but Zang is only behind Duskwood for me.

Xerion wpvp was already killed in Vanilla with the introduction of BGs. BC had nothing to do with it. PvP was actually way better in BC than it was in Vanilla.

Saatana no. BGs destroyed them. With a very few exceptions.

@Saatana Yes he did and so did i.... And again because you clearly did not read his reply, BG's killed them

The lack of PvP was going to be fixed by mounted/aerial combat in WotLK. A feature that never made it to the game.

Sweaty neck beards that find fun in trying to make others miserable.

I believe they already know. I remember when the classic wow devs we're doing a stream with Tipsout, Esfand, & Staysafe, and when the wow devs asked whether they're prefer TBC or Classic+, all 3 yelled TBC, even though they'r diehard vanilla players. Everyone knows it's just a path that needs to be traveled again.

Nick Lifka THE THE BURNING CRUSADE

Wowhead has a story that they are asking players how they would want to transition their character to a classic BC server. Im super hyped.

i dont see why they wouldnt do this. classic was a huge success. it should be a no brainer for them to re release tbc. i personally never got to experience retail tbc so i would be just as excited to play this as any new game coming out. and im sure a lot of people feel this way.

Right...

Also Remember: Loading Screen Tip #27: Don't stand in the fire. Ah blizz, you trolls.

Zangarmarsh is also one of my favorite zones to this day. The Nether Ray is still one of the most unique mounts in the game...sure, the drakes are badass but drakes are so overdone by now, and their flying animation is actually only cool when gliding, otherwise it's just pretty boring in comparison to the nether ray.

yup... even to this day the outlands has some of the most beautiful and impressive zones in the game... even 17 years later I just can't get enough of those. and for a very long time (probably longer than I'm willing to admit) shattrath was my hearth stone for basically every class. the only thing that always bugged me was the english name for the outlands. I mean... yeah, it's the "original" name but in german it just had this extra OOMPH to it, acoustically AND linguistically: the outlands were called "Scherbenwelt" which means "world of shards" or if more "contextually" translated into english, means "shattered world of sharts" which, if you look at the map or the composition of the areas, especially area 52, literally IS a world surrounded by thousands of tiny to huge pieces of land flying around or simply floating there...

Yes but, at the same time, by the time you reach SWP, you can't expect guilds to stay healthy if they still need to have their fresh lvl 70 recruit have to run through Karazhan, THEN TK/SSC, THEN BT/MH. The fact you basically gotta do that in Vanilla is why we had so much guild poaching and death spirals back then. Ofc, I do think that bringing this to the extreme extent of "only current patch content matters", as it's been from WotLK onwards, is excessive as well. I think TBC struck the right balance between the need of SOME catch-up gear and the risks of TOO MUCH catch-up gear. BoJ gear was extremely limited before ZA came out, in terms of how many slots you could cover. And even in 2.4, most of the badge gear was very much outclassed for the sake of trying SWP - a tank wearing solely BoJ gear would be absolutely melted by Brutallus for example. What BoJ offered you was basically parallel upgrades to raid progression. People preparing for SWP from fresh 70, in 2.4, still had to raid Karazhan/ZA/SSC/TK to get there as fast as possible. BoJ simply meant that you did not have to get every single upgrade from there before being ready to move up to the next tier. And yes, I didn't mention Hyjal/BT because you could not skip this tier at all - BoJ T6-level gear only covered 2-3 slots for most classes, and you rly needed to be nearly full T6 BiS if you wanted to stand a chance in SWP (unless you were being carried by a SWP-geared farm group, I guess)

@@zarator7429 well If u started late in Tbc, when swp was out, u were not suppouse to reach that, and most people didn't even care because If u started fresh u had so much shit to do. Also SWP at the time was really hard for most of guilds to progress to anyway.

@@aylmao9045 True, though in the case of an eternal endphase TBC, such as on pservers, it's a lot more sustainable than Vanilla in the longterm. You don't need 6+ months to get a tank rdy for SWP like you would for Naxx

@@zarator7429 We did that on a private server for 2 years, it was really enjoyable to run every instance in BT even when you outgeared it just to get the new guy or a few alts some shiny epics. If you enjoy playing together as a guild, it does not really matter if you are running gear upgrading instances or just lower ones imo.

For about 5 minutes until everyone sits afk in the air at endgame. "BuT pOlYmOrPh SlOwFaLl FuNnY!"

@@xJigalox seethe

@@Bloodhoven I don’t have to. I stopped giving money to blizzard a long time ago.

Ulduar

@@sleakseal2133 it's a tie between ulduar and kara,

I'll play TBC at re-release and one of my main goals is just progging heroic dungeons and then experiencing Karazhan once again.

I'll never forget the first time entering black temple and building that late game progression to sunwell. Just unreal

I didn't even play until mid wrath and I can agree with this

Every time I visit for any reason I stomp the 2 readers out of existence out of revenge. Then there was a wurm I remember but he's never arround any more

Reavers

not to mention that some of the legendaries were even used up untill T6-Raids, and in the case of Thunderfury being used on tanks sometimes even up to mid WOTLK!

The ghosts was a retard check, pray then the idiots in your raid aren't in the first 5 people to get it then the fight is easy, even with the practice you could do people still failed it somehow.

Cata was good imo. Raiding was pretty cool. Firelands was dope. Dragon Soul was garbage tho. And MoP was an expansion strictly for pvp.

@@FecalMatador Yeah. My favorite is tbc, but cata was so good. I dont know why people hate it. It had good plot, great content, pvp was really well balanced. And early cata heroic dungeons were very hard.

To me BC was the pinnacle of WoW but WotLK was the most popular. It just felt like a DPS race to me. DPS classes nuke with little to no repercussions in my experience.

@ThuQz i would cry

me too

Redman Law 99 tbc definitely topped everything.. as much as I love raiding in classic, that’s all that’s fun about it. Tbc was so much more refined

Redman Law 99 tbc was far from casual friendly... most pugs could only really do Kara and za. The item difference between Kara and sunwell was enormous. Sunwell was harder than any raid in classic, aside from nax. And no I didn’t pvp much in vanilla due to how bad the pvp system is/was. It’s a system where you get rewarded for botting or afking, then your fear is obsolete after t2

Redman Law 99 if you were good in tbc at arena you only needed to play 10 games a week to keep up.

same! love using them to this day, tbh. most of the other drakes, including the wyverns from wotlk, simply didn't hit the same way as netherdrakes did, and it wasn't only due to the way netherdrakes look (i mean... even those lightnings arund them resemble some effects from area 52 and shadowmoon valley in^^) but also the quest series leading to you finally being able to obtain one... you were literally BONDING to those dragons and their faction. why didn't blizz ever do this again? not even with the current dragonflight expansion?!

people said the same thing about classic

WOTLK is the best.

Seen the video with the singer from Cannibal Corpse complaining about Elves and Paladins in the horde? It's brilliant.

Idk. Never seen it. U ?

ive always struggled with audio quality. Still not happy with it but thank you!

Night Elves are indeed taller than a Ford Fiesta

Im waiting for wrath Thats WoW's pinnacle imo

what impression do you expect from a world that is half dead and falling apart? LOL i like it tho..

I liked many of the zones, zangermarsh looked like a alien swamp, very exotic and strange, hellfire Peninsula however was rather depressing more so because of the huge amount of quests and rather long walk distance for some of them.

Hellfire Peninsula actually hurts my eyes to look at.

@@jeremyabbott4537 I find it fun how so many people have an issue with Hellfire Peninsula but I hardly ever heard anybody complain about Blasted Lands^^

oh I forgot, blasted lands hurts my eyes worse. It is even brighter. But, thinking about it, Badlands is the worst of the bunch.

Omg T4 lock....all the lock sets are great in TBC but T4 as my first set will always have a special place in my heart.