How do we know what kind of bears were in the Bible ? 

That was interesting. So our Romanian bears would qualify as what North Americans call “grizzly bears”?

@@alinpetrescu2309 they are all similar.

Brave men

@@alinpetrescu2309 smaller though

Very interesting

For real lol

@@harveywabbit9541 You're always seeing stars where there aren't any. Did you hit your head a few too many times?

@DamonNomad82 Thank you for that clarification, in the OP.. It helps a lot. I never understood why God & Elisha were so hard on the youths. If they weren't just taunting him about his baldness, but threatening his life, that makes sense. Also, if 42 were mauled, that implies a large crowd of youths, doesn`t it?

@@missemily3264 I'm glad I could help! Yes, it does imply a very large crowd. Though the Bible doesn't say the total number of youths who were present, I would guess that there were probably at least a couple of hundred. Once the bears started attacking, the natural reaction for the rest of those present would be to flee as fast as possible. Thus, it is probable that for every youth the bears caught, several more had time to run away, as there were only two bears. It must have taken Elisha a lot of faith and courage to face a hostile crowd that size!

Hmn...interesting perspective; however, this sounds a bit like Apologetics. The text as written - using a concordance - explicitly states that they were "little children"; the Hebrew word there means small/insignificant. Teens are not little children; after I turned 13, I recall my own father remarking once that I had grown to his height, as an example (I was the same height as most other boys in my class). This is further driven home by the fact that girls become women at about 13/14 years of age (flower of youth, pursuant to 1 Corinthians 7:36). Perhaps if the text stated "children", yours _could_ be a valid point; but it states "little children." As for the "go on up" the text actually states that they were mocking Elisha - not threatening his life. Remember that Elisha had a double portion of Elijah's spirit; he could discern the spirit world and as such his perceptiveness was not bound by space and time. Those little children were either going to be wicked adults (or they had wicked parents - same thing, actually), or they were wicked in their past life and this was the judgment. "The children of sinners are abominable children". As you pointed out, Bethel was a major place of spiritual idolatry so the wicked parents could be the thing that doomed that wicked fruit.

@@harveywabbit9541 God can use astrology for signs, like with the star that the kings recognized to indicate the birth of the messianic king.

Me too.

weird takeaway...i was more concerned about 40 kids being murdered in the name of the lord for just making fun of a guy. this is a good god?

Yuo could Have Not been lazy or expact an accurate answer from a dude like this and just look of up... NOT a Grizly

Even black bears in the wild can weigh over 600 lbs, A few black bears over 750 lbs. One shot in Glidden, Wisconsin in 1963 weighed 680 lbs and stood up 7 ft 10 inches,

They had HIPPOS.

@@toomanymarys7355 + lions, behemoths, leviathan and rhinoceros.

@@harveywabbit9541 behemoth is not a bull, hippo, elephant. They are mutually exclusive, thus debunking each other suspect. The descrption only matches a sizable, chief of animals, with a tail likeness of a cedar (likely cypressus mediterranean). A sauropod. And _still_ astrology does not belong, neither Ptolemaos, that lived after the whole Book was finished. Leviathan is an another type of dinosaur /dragon: a carnivore.

@@harveywabbit9541 Now the same without adding or taking: "15Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. 16Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. 17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. 18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. 19He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. 20Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. 21He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. 22The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. 23Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. 24He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares." Ox (bull), elephant or hippo does not match, even less so your millenias younger postulations and the forbidden astrology.

They had Ursus arctus syriacus the Syrian brown bear. It's four and a half feet tall standing on it's back legs and weighs 550 pounds. They did also have Persian fallow deer which have really neat antlers.... But are more white-tail in size.

A great point to bring up when trying to disciple people is hitting them with this question/information. How did the Roman Empire fulfill the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13? Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome, and that Roman Catholiscism is the "mystery Babylon" religion. Have the Nations and governments been conspiring together for the last 3000 years going all the way back to Babylon? Did God appoint angels in places of power to carry out His will? Once you bring up the Roman Empire thing you can stump 95% of people, or atleast the youth. From there you can take advantage and win them over and/or put them on the path to researching the fulfillment of prophecy. It has yet to fail for me. Will I turn someone from their sin probably not, but I just planted a major seed in them that could spread to other people. if you are wondering about the Roman Empire thing there is a video here on youtube called "From Babyl;on To America" That covers this. There is also the RevelationTimelineDecoded website that helps. Of course the first thing that shows up when trying to research this is a Catholic website trying to debunk the claims, but Revelation 17 pretty much confirmed it.

Being Christian has become more of just having a certain opinion than believing it to be true. If one truly believes God is real and righteous than we can’t treat it as just a lifestyle or opinion.

Due to overzealous hunters killing them. Mankind tries to wipe out everything. Gone from California. Gone from Israel. Etc

They were children

@@harveywabbit9541 Since when have star constellations mauled people...?

Ursus arctus syriacus would have been the indigenous species to the area. They are about 4'5" standing up on their back legs and weigh 500lbs. They are short and chunky..

Greetings from Helena, MT

Yes, it doesn't take much to have researched this.

Thanks

Why in greek ?

It was probably a smaller Syrian brown bear, but it must have been bigger than the small black bears.

Your absolutely right 👌

@@harveywabbit9541 God didnt write that. Dont add to scripture

They had Syrian brown bears Ursus arctus syriacus which also have the hump but are actually smaller than most black bears... They weigh in at about 550 lbs and stand a whopping 4'5" standing straight up. I've rode motorcycles bigger than that 😂. I believe the bible and agree with at least one statement this guy makes and that's proper historical context is important.

@@plotholedetective4166 I ride, but what does riding motorcycles have to do with bears? A wild animal that weighs 550 has the blinding sprint speed, sheer quickness and muscle mass to totally destroy any modern human being in short order given the right provocation. The realm of tooth, fang and claw is not ours. The Creator gave it to the beasts and it belongs solely to them. And for good reason. Not to mention Revelation has a thing or two to say about the dangers of wild beasts in the end times.

I had a guy in my devotion class yesterday say that I do not share your belief but thanked me for my time sharing and laughed when I was talking about the Bibl and one's personal relationship with God can bestow miracles. He said it was written by men and their perspective.. I responded the Bible was inspired by God. He said we will eventually have to fight to protect our family. He said David was trained to fight giants. I then talked about God's supernatural protection with Shadrak, Mishak, and Abednigo who were protected by God of the Bible in the fire because of their faith mentioning you cannot fight fire. The Bible mentioned a fourth person in the fire who protected them, an angel or it was Jesus himself. The individual had no words. I thanked him for his input.

Sorry, I put this in the wrong video thread.

@@plotholedetective4166 , Check out " Harleys are only good for ONE Bear hunt" Freikin hilarious! Some guy was flying down a mountainside in Idaho coming around a corner & ran into a HUGE GRIZZLY! Broke its neck! Buckeled his bike in half. HE flew over the bear & only got a few road rash scars. His guardian angel was busy that day! That Griz is BIG, even by Alaska standards. Fills up the entire bed of a 2 ton flatbed. Diff subject. One of my favorite bible stories was about the old bald prophet ( i forget his name) who was being harrassed by the towns punks & the BEARS ( PLURAL) came out of the woods & mauled them all. Moral of the story, DONT mess w Gods anointed! 😁

In American Indian traditions, bear is healer. He's the spirit of the heyoka, the clown (but not a contrary), and family executioner. Laughter is medicine. As far as I know, no woman has had to execute anyone but I've heard of elder women who ordered that done. People of the Bear tend to be wise, solitary and given to deep thought. My father's longhouse was Bear. How he ever got tangled up with Mom, Doghouse (family joke) the Kanonasioni Gili Yu, is beyond me. Dog is Wolf, but as helper and is the oldest of the longhouses. Mom's family was mengwe, outcasts, and had a lot of nasty history. Bad enough that skinwalkers tend to avoid the people of her house. And, I'm tired and blathering, sorry.

It wasn't, it was an Atlas Bear. They're extinct now thanks to the Romans.

@@Bc232klm more likely a Syrian brown bear actually

I grew up in California, and I’ve never heard that story. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe it, at all. Plus, there are still brown bears in California. I knew because I grew up in the mountains in Southern California, and still have family living there.