How do you make Linux more popular? 

Im happy that i use linux.

My school used Linux, not just the schools, every government organisation uses Linux here, and they give a Linux laptop installed with a customised Ubuntu for every student and government employee, it's helped a lot with the popularity of Linux in my state, almost everybody is aware of Linux here. It happened mostly due to a moment in the 2000s where a bunch of free software foundation members convinced the government to use Linux, now the government also has a dedicated department to contribute to open source and develop tools

if anyone advertises Linux it would be gabe newell

The problem isn't with Linux, it's with companies that don't release compitable versions for their software (even on wine). I heard of so much people just saying that their favorite adobe software / game doesn't work, and it's mainly a problem with anti-cheats.

I think one of the problems with Linux growth as a Desktop is the... what is it called? "Chicken and Egg problem"? Developers/Companies keep saying that they wish to port their apps to Linux but always keeps saying that Linux isn't big enough, but then at the same time if all of these apps were on Linux it will skyrocket Linux Growth. A lot of the times it feels like just them making excuses or are just waiting for somebody else to take the leap. An example of a Company that does this is Epic games with Fortnite.

My teacher used Linux, the laptop was so slow when it ran Windows 10, but she booted Linux and it ran so smoothly, it became usable for work.

"How do you make Linux more popular?" Windows 11: hold my bloatware

Valve realized that it would be better to have a machine optimized for gaming rather than having something optimized for compatibility.

If linux is going to become popular with the average user then it absolutely needs to be possible/easy to do 100% of daily tasks without ever going into the terminal.

we used linux at school because my teacher really liked it

2:55 I know why they dropped it, Sony said "Due to security concerns" since players could modify how the PS3 could work online from Linux with GeoHots Root key that got him into legal water and is no longer allowed to own any Sony device ever again. It allowed for self-signing of executables. So anything would be able to run without needing a "jailbreak". He even has a website that shames Sony for suing him that's still up.

To me, the primary reason why Windows is on most PCs is because they got their foot in the door with OEMs to make sure their OS was installed on computers that were sold to the public. They practically have a monopoly on it, so of course it's on most computers.

Thanks for discussing this topic! I'm a long time Linux user and I like when creators outside the Linux world discuss how Linux could succeed... this feels like a lot of people are rooting for Linux to succeed, even people who are not Linux users... and this makes me happy

A lot of basic stuff is still difficult or impossible to do in Linux. Want to undervolt GPU? Windows: just adjust sliders in MSI Afterburner. In Linux: tinker with command line apps, parameters, config files and scripts. Linux apps need more GUI.

He feels like a Linux enthusiast rather than a VPN company yt channel

Turn it into windows, no seriously if you want it to be adopted massivly then you have to make it work like windows, seamless, plug & play and easily understood by an end user, remember end users are pretty fucking dumb i would know i am one

If Sony wants to make the PS5 into a desktop PC they might as well use FreeBSD since the PS5, PS4 and PS3 all use FreeBSD

How? Well, finish up the whole stack of GNU + Linux + system-d + Mesa + Pipewire + Wayland + Portals + KDE/GNOME + Flatpak/Snaps so that people can use it as easily as they can Windows and Android. Then, we just need time until Microsoft mess up enough time until we got to the point where there's enough users that application developers and manufacturers sees value in supporting us. We need that strong base and then we need to hit critical mass with Microsoft's help.

Only 2 things: job and gaming. I don't want to do hacking to make things work. I want to install and don't think about it.

The problem is there are major Linux organizations, the problem is the vast majority of them are focused on enterprise and servers. The Linux desktop simply isnt profitable so why would anyone advertise it?

One of my IT teachers somehow was allowed to have a full computer lab running Linux in high school. Can still remember playing Kolf with others in morning home group.

Our computer engineering classes have GNU/Linux as part of the course (at least they did in our highschool) because of the fact that many people who took the course (myself included) would be going into a field in IT. They also allowed students (myself included) to run GNU/Linux on their own personal devices and would tailor software that works on all three big platforms.

At this point, I believe “Arch btw” is an official name for that distro though

There are a bunch of car manufacturers, there are even more car models. Nobody is complaining about "car fragmentation".

Realistically, Linux only needs four things: 1. **Core OS:** The main backbone of the OS. If you want to change the layout, the graphics style, the plugins, etc., you're welcome to do it. 2. **Core App Store:** This is where all apps go and where you download all apps. You can choose the style of app-flatpack, instant install pack, or whatever. 3. **A very good advertisement.** 4. **Decent user privilege system:** Plug and play. Click, click, click. No command line required. With a root OS and a root store, anyone would be able to use Linux. From there, if you want to do a distro edit, go right ahead. You want to put in a different store? Go ahead! You want to go back to the command line and change everything? Go ahead. But the root OS and the root store have to be standardized. Every single OS has to fundamentally flow through the core, which must be easy to install and easy to navigate by default. If you can navigate like Windows and buy applications like Android, Linux could actually take a dominant path. At most, you would have a system that boots up and asks what style you want: gaming, editing, surfing, business, security. And you'd get the appropriate system with no need to figure out distros. As for your Windows computer, it's not useless in 2025. If it still does the job, it works. If you can still run the game, it works. If you can still run the program, it works. If you can still surf the web, it definitely works. So stop fear mongering.

What linux needs is an installation wizard that does all the tinkering necessary to make things work. Installing linux, and every program, distro, package manager, etc, for linux should be no harder than using ninite. If you did that, linux would double in market share over night.

I was trying to use linux but i changed my mind after i found that installing nvidia driver is: first: strange and confusing way to do to me (linux should have an executable file to run and that's it) second: screwed up my display settings after installing some things that i assumed they were the ones to install. My point is: The day linux make installations in windows way (just double clic and voila) then i will go for it forever. Thanks for the video.

Schools mostly use Chromebooks now & they run ChromeOS which is based on Linux so yes schools do use Linux

My least favourite thing about linux is it doesn't let me mod proton games. I drag mods into a mod folder and it's not recognized because apparently it has a shitty case-sensitive file system so it just ignores it.

The main reason I cant use linux is the unavailability of apps that I use in windows, if those apps come to windows tomorrow I will switch to linux immediately

Actually all the distros remind me of android. There's Pixel UI, One Ui, HyperOs, ColorOs, and stock. What if treat pcs the same way? Dell runs Ubuntu, HP runs Mint, Asus runs Arch, and Windows can just make their own hardware(which they already do). New companies can even make pre-installed Linux pcs with their own skins similar to Android.

Linux is used in computer class India Kerala state it's called KITE GNU Linux based on Ubuntu 20.04

The problem with linux for many people is that you usually can't just put an installer for a program on usb and install it on other machine without internet. Snaps or appimages? They don't run on every distro and have their drawbacks Flatpacks? They are pretty universal. But average user can't make use of them being universal. Also dependencies? Package manager or deb files? Good luck with dependencies. So on my opinion as an average user who learned how to use linux and uses it now, the main problem - is the way software is installed. You heavily depend on internet to solve all dependencies or you must know well what depends on what libs or you must carry the whole freaking repository on your drive (and even then it's not 1 click install). And yes, I do know all the way to solve it but it is still inconvenient for average user. Otherwise linux would be (and still is) a great solution for "install it and all needed software on granny's PC so she could browse internet, videos, photos, office and use video chat, and then forget about it. Granny wouldn't be able to even tell a difference". Problems arise when said granny or you need to install something on her pc from a usb drive or without the internet

Honestly, i would have switched to linux if it was more gui oriented, and had a quality of life improvements of at least windows 10. But as it currently stands, at the first problem you'll encounter - you'll be sent straight to the terminal. And the only desktop environment that even comes close to level of polish of windows 10 still has a long way to go. But you know, it doesn't have to be. Just look at Android, it looks nice, works fast, easy to use and does not require terminal witchcraft, has plenty of software and so on. There's definitely something to learn from it's success.

Here in Germany my school used Linux Mint until the city came to the school and forced it to use Windows 10. Downgrade in programming experience for that class.

Linux support on PS3 was dropped because it was used to jailbreak the console, and Sony didn't like that.

In my school on Linux it has been used for a long time. Btw I am from India. They use Ubuntu and mint

I honestly think making a Taskbar Search bar on the desktop that says "Search Programs", you type in a program, it showed you a very brief picture/description of the program you typed in, even better an option for one click install, and you click enter and installs it. No terminal, no store, if it suggests a Windows program, give the user an alt or a way to run said program "wine" and install wine/use.

Windows user since Windows 3.1. 1)Ease of use. You can get guidance from everywhere, your friends, neighbors, any computer shop/ store you enter. 2) Mostly all business houses use Microsoft Office, professional accounting software only runs on Windows. People prefer to learn Windows & other industry standard software to earn money. 3) Easy to use GUI tools for anything you want to do. Linux people should stop call Windows users as dumb, lazy loaths etc. They are doctors, engineers, accountants etc, expert in their fields. Not knowing any certain things about computer is not a problem. Linux people should focus on GUI tools. Everybody is not expert in computer programming to understand command line. Most people are only app users. If everything can be done on Android & Chrome OS using GUI, both base on Linux kernel, why couldn't it be done on Linux? They should forget about nostalgia about CLI.

Back when I was in university from 2006-2011, they used windows for the standard pcs, and a linux super mainframe that had dummy terminals, so we were able to SSH in as well, and work revolved around them.

I used to format and setup computers, and I always installed windows. Now I mostly install Linux Mint. It's just easier and it works for years without problems. Most people just use the browser for everything.

Linux is advertised just because it's not Windows, not because it's functionally better than Windows. If I simply disable the telemetry and remove the bloatware from Windows, Linux suddenly has no reason to be considered by me.

Linux usage is still to low for Adobe to release Photoshop for Linux.

“How do you make Linux more popular?” “Make Windows worse.”

i studied CS at Texas A&M, and while the lab computers did run windows we were often required to ssh into Linux to compile and run our programs i don't think i ever saw a Linux DE in my time there

Linux will become popular when installing and uninstalling software cleanly without breaking the whole operating system necessitating a reinstallation of the OS, becomes easy. When a "daily update" fails half-way leaving thousands of unfinished odds-and-ends for the user to figure out how to clean up to attempt another install cleanly (and successfully) stops being a common problem, and becomes an uncommon problem. When the dependency-hell problem across distros is solved. Most importantly, when graphics drivers support ALL GPU hardware features and WORKS and WELL, not just "can/might work, with this version, that version, must use old release for support/can't use newest release, downgrade kernel, downgrade python, COMPILE IT YOURSELF!?", etc. Most notably, right now OpenCL isn't there yet, and ROCm is only for the very very few. etc. Linux just isn't usable as a "Desktop" unless you're very advanced and have lots of patience. Even if all you do is watch youtube, if you don't install advanced features of the Mesa drivers, you don't get hardware decoding on your HD videos; that means that RU-vid is laggy if you're not technically capable of using the advanced driver installations. On Windows, it's just "next next next finish" and if it fails you just click the install file again, and usually it fixes it for you; they include their own uninstaller, and you have a system uninstaller; it uninstalls it "cleanly". Linux doesn't do that. On Linux, each distro has a ton of different ways to install the same application/driver, and between distros it's even more absurd, and frankly, there's too many choices; you almost always feel like you installed something suboptimal, or suboptimally. A "properly configured" linux is great. But it takes way too much effort to get it there for the average user.

There are a few things that annoys me on Linux when compared to Windows. Portable apps is one of those. With Windows, i can just copy the exe on a thumb drive and execute and even when some dependence is missing (most of time, it's just a DLL), i can just copy to the folder of the executable and it will run. On Linux, I couldn't figure out a way to do that and it must be a "download executable & run" solution, otherwise Windows is still ahead. There is also hardware compatibility, like backlight keyboards, fan control and power control for laptops, which ... Isn't straight forward and takes a lot of extra time to deploy. Abd even the solutions I got are subpar, like the keyboard backlight returning to a default after reboot instead of remembering what was the last state. Gaming on Linux is getting better, but it is still lagging behind. Even retro gaming still require more steps to run on Linux. VM is a possible solution I'm certain cases, but it is still not something the end user will be doing. Aside from those annoyances, I noticed that Linux Mint is a great option to ressuct older machines and even something running a mobile T8100 duo core with 4GB DDR2 memory will go from stuck in useless Vista to fully operational web browsing. Another thing I've been doing is to slowly build a new software library and workflow that is compatible with Linux, so I can ditch Windows, but I'm still stuck with Windows fir gaming with my friends, who will be playing stuck from Microsoft store like MS Flight Simulator. I guess ill be only free from Windows once someone manage to sneak MS store/XBOX into Linux.

The reasons why I haven’t fully switched over is 1) Lack of software support 2) It’s way too easy to accidentally destroy your OS

I've switched to Linux recently. The only thing I dislike is that I pretty often bump into compatability issues or errors which I have to fix through terminal with weird commands which I have to search up on random forums. My distro isn't that popular and pretty weird in it's own way which makes it harder to apply general solutions which are meant for Debian/Ubuntu users

From a perspective of a Windows Super User, I will say this, nothing that you said on this video matters to me, but when I open the contraparte Explorer on Linux and I see, Var, Etc, Bin, etc... The first thing that came to my mind is, I am not a Programmer, this isn't friendly, I am out of here. When a God Programmer with a help on an Super AI has the bravery to Rename all the main folders on Linux I really think things will change.

it really is just a matter of making the transition from Windows to Linux as seamless as possible. people just don't like change all that much.

1, games 2, google drive 3, word 4,can accces any program

Some of my school's computers dual boot windows 10 and ubuntu, but we have only used ubuntu once in 2 years and we do all the stuff we do in windows

I tried to get into linux many times but the amount of bugs and little things you had to troubleshoot became too annoying in the long run. When I tried asking for help, all the answers were different and some people recommended to switch distros because it was better or it didn't have that bug. You're also recommended to use AMD GPUs on linux because their drivers are better optimized, but the problem is that I like using Nvidia hardware and driver support and features is really lacking on Linux, you often had to mod stuff in and then look for launch commands to fix certain games, etc. so it all came down to long troubleshooting sessions for specific problems, and even after I got familiar with it, there were specific bugs that needed specific fixes. I might try it again next year to see how things have changed.

As someone who is trying to enter linux, the problem is also most linux user/dev only see two kind of pc user, the passionate who are more than happy to tweak and understand everything and the people who only a web browser and ms office. They completly ignore everything in the middle, people who want to do a lot of thing on pc (usualy with a graphical interface yes) want some degree of control similar way both in possibility and simplicity to what you have on windows but they do not want to spend their time learning everything in detail. And i can feel that every time i go back to a distro, a forum or a yt tutorial. post scriptum= an example, the fact you can't install in easy maner software were you want. Yes for you maybe your fine with it, but me, i am not, for me and many other user, that not a transition but a sacrifice. It's possible to do that on linux user wise, it just not easy, while on the two most important desktop os, it's almost as easy as launching your browser. It could be made easy for user on linux, but it's in conflict with some local "philosophy" so they do not make it easy. If you want people moving from linux to windows, making it as seamless as possible should be a priority, wich mean accepting to make accessible thing you personally as, an individual do not appreciate but most will. Particulary when this one do not make any moral compromise

I don’t think Linux needs only one distro but I think it needs only one default distro. One that anyone and their mother could point you toward if you wanted to start using Linux. Because for windows everyone will point you to windows 10/11 more towards 11 because of the time issue but still. And with Mac no one even has to say anything, you just get a Mac

5:23 I remember when I was in my primary school, we had a computer lab that had 10-12 PCs, and they were all running on Ubuntu Unity (I don't remember which version, but it had things like typing games and all study-related stuff). The most important thing is that I'm from a little village in Gujarat, which is located in India, and the funny thing is that even teachers don't know how to use it 🤣😅. btw right now I'm using Fedora.

The recent updates kinda makes people give Linux a try

I think the best way to tackle it is making a Linux for beginner. Basically, it would be a collaborative effort between possibly multiple distributions. Making their transition smoother like adding in a cheat sheet when you open up the terminal. That'll update depending on what you're typing and even Auto-Fill the top option for you. Like Minecraft Command System. Ease of dual booting. Like it just does it for you. If you don't uncheck the box. Automatic backups so the user can easily revert if they make a mistake. Basically have a lot of the operating system to stuff automatically like Windows. Once they're in, they can slowly transition to the other OSes based on what they need to be. Most users might not even switch off of it since just most users use basic web browsing.

competitors can, sometimes, advertise better than advertisers

I feel like if there was a commercial incentive to support Linux (such as Valve with the Steam Deck), Linux would be on par in terms of hardware/software support when it comes to Windows within a year or two. Currently there's little to no incentive for big companies to support Linux since it's not worth it commercially.

can we just acknowledge that that 4% number is most likely too small than the actual number? yk due to ppl refusing to let websites grab data like this?

You nailed it - 1. Gaming. That's it. Gaming is huge, the industry is bigger than film, music, television combine. Make Linux a compelling gaming platform and the rest follows. (Also remember that Android is linux, it's a great easy to use reliable personal computing experience, so is ChromeOS - these are the clues on how to get user acceptance)

As a longtime user of Linux, I believe Immutable distros are the future for everyday normal people. SteamOS is a good example, I've also switched my desktop over to Bazzite which is an immutable Fedora based distro. Flatpaks solve the issue of fragmentation, which distro to target when developing apps, and dependency issues. When Valve releases SteamOS as a general purpose distro I believe that will be the "default" linux distro for people to use.

Well, I mean, ChromeOS, which is based off Gentoo Linux, is widely used in schools, so that's one thing that could have gotten Linux to its 4% market share level. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Windows 12 subscribtion with ads will send more people toward Linux.

The keyring pop up is for distros that let you log in automatically, but have to verify which user is using that profile. Then you can continue with your app/program. if you log in from the start, then everything you do after that won't usually require a password.

I have a Steam Deck and I ordered a Linux tablet, in the past, I put Linux Mint on a usb thumb drive and booted my laptop into it that way, it prolonged the life of that laptop a little

Hardware is one of the reason I switched from Linux. Another reason I switched is because of MS Office and Discord.

Gaming just gaming it will make linux popular

My schools predominantly had Macs but I grew up with Windows at home simultaneously. I first got into Linux in high school through a cyber security class. I've been a Linux enthusiast since 2015.

We DON'T want linux to be popular. Do we want to be terrified at Linux like we already are will Windows?

I use Windows because I do.

My school used Linux servers, Linux pc, Linux phones and also steam deck is with every student

I'm a Windows user that decided to try Zorin OS. I've tried different distros before but with Windows 11 on the horizon, I really wanted to try to daily drive Linux. I installed Zorin.. 3 times and it finally finished the install on the third attempt. The first 2 failed. My Shure MV7 mic and Bose QC Ultra headphones worked (occasionally) it was like Zorin couldn't remember the settings. (And yes it was actually installed, I manually partitioned and everything) Then I tried Mint. Headphones and Mic didn't work at all. Then I tried Ubuntu. Headphones and mic worked flawlessly during live USB boot, but then installing Ubuntu gave me a white screen that was like "oh no, something went wrong" every time I logged in. Reinstalled ubuntu twice. Tried every command I could find in every forum. Reinstalled gnome from terminal via dropping to shell in recovery. Same thing. Tried Installing last LTS. Was able to get to the desktop. But mic and headphones weren't even recognized. Linux will never gain popularity until this out of the box experience becomes better.

The problem with Linux is that Linux is just the name of a kernel like when I heard that new version of Windows will use a Linux kernel

"Some regions and some people can become rich first, drive and help other regions and other people, and gradually achieve common prosperity." --Deng Xiaoping said when meeting with a delegation of senior American entrepreneurs organized by Time Inc. on October 23, 1985 So I think we can firstly make one Linux distro become popular, then the applications that can be run on this distro can also be run on other distros. Then if this distro is popular enough, even Adobe will develop PhotoShop for it. As you see, if an application can be run on one distro, it can be also run easily on another one.

Don't make Linux popular, or it would be hard if everyone flex their arch build and have to migrate to FreeBSD for elitism purposes😂

My school uses both Windows 10 and iPadOS 17 on their Computers. I myself am an iPadOS user and also own macOS and Windows devices. I always wanted to try to use Linux just never found the time and mood for taking my time to try switching. But maybe I will do it someday.

ps3 reason is piracy and modding

The real reason why people that use linux go back to windows : VIrtual machine does not run native like Vmware and bluestacks to play android apps with Open CL and DX interface , ALL DX games do not work with linux native, all aplications alternatives suck compared whats available on windows, No true Drivers native suport like chipset and gpu drivers and also professional audio codecs and the last one to many "Distos"

Almost 1 month Windows sober, on Arch now. Couldn't be happier with the switch

2:50 They did this because they wanted to prevent jailbreaking and pirating the console. I watched a "documentary" about the PS3's hack incident.

Arch users here ->

My teacher switched our workstations to Linux(like 6? Years ago) for like the week after that he rolled back to windows because everything he wanted us to use wasn't working xD

The main issue is that the software is not supported on Linux. Many people are accustomed to using Adobe software and are not willing to learn new applications for each Adobe program. For example, I can edit videos using DaVinci Resolve and do some 3D work in Blender, but I can't find a replacement for After Effects and Fusion isn't a replacement. For someone like me who has a lot of plugins that are not available on Linux, it makes it harder for me to switch even though I'm done with Windows and Mac. The issue with Windows phones was the inability to attract a large number of developers to create or at least port their applications to the Windows phone platform. As a result, many people chose not to purchase Windows phones.

In our school, we had Windows on our computers initially, but one day, we come and find that Windows has been replaced with a wierd looking OS (we didn't know it was a Linux distro at the time). We were disappointed that we couldnt play Pinball when the teachers weren't looking.

I am glad the presenter did not say "Android runs on Linux, therefore Linux is more popular." Android is popular because it runs fairly flawless on tablets and phones. However, if people had to drop to CLI frequently, and type in their password at every mind change, then Android would be nowhere near as popular as it is today, smartphones would not be as popular as it is today. Lose the need for CLI, and it might win the hearts and minds of people who profess a disdain for Linux.

i love linux mint a lot, but my only problem with it, is app compatibility, id switch if that problem wasnt there

Making it easier to use would help uptake. You know...not needing the terminal, just like windoze.

My school used a Customised GNU-Linux OS, which made the Linux first operating system that I used in PC.

I have vivid memories of us using some sort of linux os during our CS-classes in elementary school (circa 2007-2010). I think it was to get students familiar with basic computing other than windows. This was in Finland btw.

I think the one distro would need the simplicity of Ubuntu and the customizability of OpenSUSE or Arch.

We used SUSE in the mid 2000s in my high school computer network technologies and programming classes. I liked it a lot back then.

My primary school had a coding club where we used raspberry pis and python. They even gave me a Raspberry Pi 1 to keep

I think personally biggest thing is app delivery. Even if Linux community hates consolidation. There NEEDS to be one exccelent cross distro app format, store/repository, along with all tools needed to develop software for that format and publish/sell it.

An online friend of mine used Linux at her school in Spain. What made me take so long to switch to Linux is the fact that some applications I use often (Namely Livesplit, HxD?, a paint software (lol my comment got deleted due to url) ...) is only on Windows. HxD and a paint software definitely have alternatives I can find, Livesplit also has alternatives but none of them are great. Livesplit is _the_ primary reason why I choose to do double boot. If I want to go speedrun - I switch to my 70 GB Windows 10 boot partition. Otherwise, I switch to my 30 GB Linux Ubuntu boot partition (most of the times). I have a third NTFS partition for storage that gets shared between Windows and Ubuntu. I like this setup. I only made the switch to Linux last week so there's still a lot of stuff that's daunting, but it's been an interesting experience. I just hope Livesplit will have full Linux support one day. I suppose there were also some games I cared about but I can do that on the W10 boot partition so it's fine. I don't game much anyway outside of speedrunning lol

After installing Linux Mint on my second drive a few days ago, I found out that Steam (which runs on Linux) has a wrapper, based on Wine, which lets it run all my Steam Library Windows games. This is incredible. The only feature the wrapper didn't support was PhysX on "Borderlands 2." (ghosted out). I wish I had known about this years ago.

The only thing that keeps me from daily driving Linux is the lack of support for my music workflow. Lots of people have zero problems with it, and that’s great. But for me, Windows VSTs and DAWs are extremely hard to replace and don’t work flawlessly on Wine. Not to mention I’d have to ditch all my existing projects or dual-boot which is just more trouble than it’s worth. I even mainly got into LMDE for a month, but eventually had to concede that for my daily use it isn’t worth only partially switching to an OS that, as you mentioned, doesn’t operate that differently in most people’s daily desktop use.

I have many of those problems. I'm a long time(like half my life) windows user, I'd even call myself a power-user. I've spent years tweaking and customizing and learning all the ins and outs of windows, so Linux is a very hard adjustment to make, the power-user software I use to heavily tweak the windows interface or mod games or cheat (single player games only, not an a-hole who cheats against other people) just doesn't work on Linux. By all means the regular day to day stuff works perfectly fine as like you said browsers are pretty much universal across all platforms, but most of the more advanced tweaks, basically all the things that aren't common use-cases require either so much more work to get working on linux or I just plain can't as far as I've figure out without basically coding/scripting it myself. Basically the learning curve for advanced usage is almost exponentially sharper. I've also run in many of the situations where I was banging my head against the wall /trying/ to get something to work and being denied with every attempt to the point where I was just throwing everything I could find at the problem and hoping I didn't foul things up even further. Usually having to scour through google results to find the magic sudo commands to fix the issue while still not entirely understanding what the issue was. Generally I think it was the permissions or firewall or something else that just made things silently fail. Oh and having to enter my passwords a few dozen/hundred times. And then there were the handful of times my attempts to fix things ended up breaking the whole installation with me having no idea how to undo it and I foolishly didn't make a timeshift backup so had to reinstall several times. I might've been up to the challenge when I was younger and had free time and enthusiasm/energy, but at my current stage of life and burn out from my job I just can't tackle linux, it's too big of an adjustment and there's too much I'd have to either give up or have to relearn to do from scratch. Believe me if there's anything that makes me want to get into Linux it's all this business with Windows 11, but I just don't have it in me to take on the challenge. I even bought a mini pc to have a powerful modern system to try out linux on, but I've barely used it.