Exactly, but I think you can see from the video that he doesn't use this type of equipment every day, he doesn't know what it's like, he says it's not bad, wait until the PC boils and starts to slow down more, throw blue screens, etc. Will it be a great PC then? With these RAMs, is 3 GB enough for games? Hah, tell me he's a game developer whose games use 16 GB of RAM just like that.
I just bought myself a pre owned office pc with Intel i5 6500 and 8 gigs of ram, the seller supplied a 256 gb of ssd (sata as 6th gen doesn't support nvme) and it had activated win 10 pro. Although the tech is almost a decade old but its all usable. All of this under 200$ (converted from inr). I think its just the social media thing to follow the trend of following the latest and greatest. As once said by "THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THAT'S EVER LIVED." if your PC is built after 2012-2013 time it's gonna last a fairly long time provided you maintain it probably
U mean it didn’t have an nvme slot? I have a laptop with a 4th gen intel CPU and it has an nvme slot which runs at PCIE 3X2(although you can’t boot off it)
More people should be saying this. 64-bit dual core cpu from any year, an ssd and 8 gb of memory your still good. Especially if running another OS like linux or BSD
@@Cyber_Gas yeah, maybe then 😂 To be fair, most atom chips has a max memory of 2gb, so they don't count in my list. ;) Some of the nettop ones have a max memory of 4gb, so maybe those could still be somewhat usable, with super lightweight os'es. Probably not 😅 Action Retro just dropped a video with a Intel Atom running puppy Linux.
@@Cyber_Gas yeah absolutely. I was not saying it is usable, kind of showing evidence how bad it is. There are some newer Atom chips that do support 8gb of ram (from 2014-> or so), but they are only for embedded devices. Would be interesting to see how they perform.
@@CrackDavidson1 also i realized celeron n3350 with windws ofc ik you wrote there especialy with other os like bsd and linux but with windows it used 100% of cpu just to use windows btw 8gb and ssd but on linux it was rock solid
@@SurfsharkAcademyKeeping Academy key word in your channel names makes us think this channel is run by a company and not an individual hence likely people won't subscribe much..plzz remove the academy and keep what ever
My laptop is from 2012 it has a almost broken hdd with a huge chunk of dead pixels on monitor going to min 5million for repair. Yes im buying a new laptop, not fixing it.
Yep. Time to buy new laptop. But don't waste your old laptop yet. You can fix & upgrade that with SSD later, use that as retro gaming PC only, windows 7 is just great
I saw this video before and it made me wonder how good this old laptop that was sitting being unsed from around the same year was. I installed windows 10 and I was shocked at how it performed.
I would recommend trying Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC, it's much less bloated, and if you disable animations (if they aren't disabled by default) you might be able to gain even more performance (as in browsing performance, I highly doubt it's going to run games xD). or just try Linux lol, it's probably going to be so much better for your system
@@laithWaseem Even Linux cannot give Celerons a reason to exist unfortunately. If they were on a Pentium, you'd have a case, even an Intel Atom, but Celerons are a lost cause.
A few months ago, I wanted a laptop. Now with the power of Linux, an 11 year old MacBook has become my primary computer for the time being (to work on a project).
unless you do very technical productivity stuff, most software doesn't need too much resources or there are light alternatives. The issue is the damn os, I would not use windows on a very old pc, most definitely using linux
a lot of these comments are talking about their old laptops from 2011/2012, this makes me really grateful for my laptop that i got brand new last year. its the most overpriced laptop you can posibly get, $1700 aud for 8gb ram, AMD Ryzen 5 7530u and no gpu, but it can run games like minecraft (with optimization mods) and valorant at 60 fps.
this is a very "if it's not good, it's bad" mindset, because such a system is perfectly fine for productivity tasks (what most people use it for), as well as even some light gaming should you wish, let me explain it based on each of your points 1. 8 gigs of ram, while it's becoming less useful each year, still can handle an operating system, browser, word processor, and some other applications open just fine, it only really struggles if you're a heavy multitasker or want to play modern games 2. TPM 2.0 being included means nothing except not being able to run windows 11, just beacuse microsoft says "it's a requirement" when it actually can be bypassed, doesn't mean anything without it is useless (just use linux or windows 10) 3. integrated graphics works for everything outside of gaming, though i have to agree that this is the most valid point here, as it's a very early igpu and is pretty crap 4. just because it's a 2009 processor, does not instantly mean it's awful, it's a quad core with 8 threads and therefore isn't the end of the world when it comes to multitasking activities (it's no modern chip, but again, it doesn't have to be) 5. probably the noise is caused by the fans working overtime due to intensive activity, this is very common on laptops from this era when the growth in cpu power in laptops very suddenly compared to their previous growth, again this is a subjective but valid point
@@cmposting I'd like to add to that. Secure boot and TPM 2.0 is only necessary to install Windows 11, I was dual booting it with Linux with Secure Boot and the like disabled after the installation no problem.
Yeah, my "new" laptop at work is a Dell Latitude 7480 running a 7th Gen i7. That thing worked surprisingly pretty well, prompting me to look into the world of refurbished Dell Latitude and ThinkPad laptops - there's a huge market for refurbished 6-8th Gen i5 and i7 Dell and ThinkPad surprisingly, and judging their performance I think they're a much better buy as secondary devices especially as it seems ThinkPad in particular runs very well under Linux with a huge community working on additional drivers and optimization for it.
i optimize my i3 4 gen intel hd gpu 8 gb rab and now i can play gta 3 trilogy smooth without lag and valorant run smooth on high setting andi download geforce now i have goood internet i can play cs2 fortnite and many others high graphics games in high setting without lag smooth lol i didnt have high end pc but i can play high end games in low end pc
there's actually a LOT of ways to have fun with a pc, even if it's a weak one, but keep in mind ''weak'' and ''slow'' terms for pc's are different, having a slow pc really sucks
If you upgrade then i would love to see a video about switching to linux full time. But you don’t have to obviously because software support is a mess…
TLDR, if you only use your pc for browsing the internet and play really old games, you don't need a new pc. Im a graphic designer, and part-time editor, so I kinda need a pretty good pc for me to get work lol. But other than that, its an okay video ig.
i optimize my i3 4 gen intel hd gpu 8 gb rab and now i can play gta 3 trilogy smooth without lag and valorant run smooth on high setting andi download geforce now i have goood internet i can play cs2 fortnite and many others high graphics games in high setting without lag smooth
4:48 "this is probably gonna run perfectly fine because this game is from 20 years ago, 30 years ago?" thats a 2013 game were talking about, not a 2003 lol
I have just bought a new 4070TI build but, if i was being honest, there would be absolutly nothing wrong with keeping my old 1660 super for another couple of years.
i optimize my i3 4 gen intel hd gpu 8 gb rab and now i can play gta 3 trilogy smooth without lag and valorant run smooth on high setting andi download geforce now i have goood internet i can play cs2 fortnite and many others high graphics games in high setting without lag smooth
@MaybeYou911 i optimize my i3 4 gen intel hd gpu 8 gb rab and now i can play gta 3 trilogy smooth without lag and valorant run smooth on high setting andi download geforce now i have goood internet i can play cs2 fortnite and many others high graphics games in high setting without lag smooth
My 7 year old Notebook with Intel pentium, 4GB RAM, HDD with 64 GB,it is slow, weak battery and broken hinges. I definitely needed a new one, now my new one is the Nitro 5.
After Windows EOL I'm upgrading to LTSC cause I don't wanna use Windows 11 till it actually hears to the Feedback and I don't wanna support the Marketshare of Windows 11
I bought a 2021 scar 15 its now 3-4 years old it even runs cyberpunk Specs: 64 gb ram Ryzen 9 5900HX 2TB ssd Rtx 3080 16 GB Alot of rgb and good cooling
Thanks to you guys and your old HP, I've turned my old HP ProBook into a Linux machine. It's from maybe 2014 and has always had issues, due to the cheap build quality, but with a Bluetooth keyboard I have made a Home Entertainment Centre. There are issues that I have to live with, like it won't boot up without me jumping through hoops (BIOS), but at the end of the day, it's now a useful machine which doesn't have Microsoft doing its thing whenever it wants, disrupting whatever I might be doing - I mean, it IS MY machine, right? Right, Microsoft? Big thanks for having a Surfshark download for Linux 😘
It depends how old is it. Pretty much every PC older than late 2017 will not support windows 11. It’s only 8th gen intel cpu / AMD Ryzen 2nd gen and newer that support windows 11.
I think windows 11 is destroying my laptop it runs with 4GB of ram, but the memory is always at peak without even opening apps, and the cpu always heat up so fast i can’t even use it daily, should i switch to linux?
If you need to upgrade, consider used hardware. You could save massive amounts and get hardware that is maybe 1-2 generations older than the newest for a fraction of the price.
For office, casual video watching, or playing older games, you don't need upgrade. But there is one problem. OS. Windows 10 support will end in October 2025. Windows 11 is not supporting older PCs, unless you do tricky regedit, but we do not know, how that will end. Maybe MS will be harsh for TPM bypass users. On the other way, there is Linux, but not every software works fine on that OS. Printer drivers still can be pain in the ass. As a IT Admin in hospital, it bothers me, because there is no money for new PC, but either we can't install Windows 11 without fear something will not work properly. And Linux is not a good idea for people around 50 years old, with only Windows experience. They don't want to learn. They want muscle memory of something familiar. By old PC, I mean Dell Optiplex 755
Then install tiny 11. I am a medical student from Lebanon studying orthopedic surgery, my laptop still has a core 2 duo but on tiny 11 it works totally fine
@@bestcreate1417 You probably shouldn't use custom ISOs as you can never really know if it's malware free, 10 iot enterprise ltsc is a better alternative
Mine's not, the Windows 7 install on my Dell Latitude E6520 from 2012 has suddenly been rendered (non-Genuine) by Microsoft, so it's good for absolutely nothing now. The i5 2520M runs Windows 10 about as well as a Slug runs a marathon, so now Windows 7 has been rendered invalid by Microsoft's activation servers, I have a useless brick that won't let me use half of its features anymore. (I use Linux on my main PC alongside Windows 11, I'm not using it on the laptop too. Laptops are supposed to be productive) Sucks because the only alternative is that I install an ACTUAL non-genuine copy of Windows in the form of Windows Vista and hope everything I use can be recompiled for Windows Vista if it doesn't already support it...
It won't let you use half of the features because it's not activated? That's... not supposed to happen at all. If 7 isn't activated it only gives you a popup from time to time and changes the wallpaper to blank. Either you have a virus or a weird installation of Windows 7. Maybe try fresh installing a clean ISO of 7?
@@marco-ds1fy My install was an OEM installation, I have no install CD for it so a fresh one's out of the question for me, but I've given up on Windows versions after Windows 10, so it's either gonna be a case of keeping my PC's custom 10 build on the laptop too, or just building my own. Edit: I have the Service Pack 1 CD, but not the CD for the OS itself.
Hey, I have an old T450 with a 4th gen i5 and 8Gb DDR3 and 1Tb HDD from 2015. It works just fine, I used much more modern laptops in my old workplace, and you don't really see much of a difference. The only thing I'd do to it is to add an SSD (it has room for a m2 2242 sata SSD), maybe upgrade the ram to have 16Gb for som workloads, but gaming-wise, its just fine
I still run my Hp Probook 4430s from 2011. I got it secondhand in 2016 with an i5 2540M (2-core, 4-thread), 8gb (2x4) DDR3 RAM, and the factory 500gb HDD. Gamed on it from 2016 until 2021 when the HDD got too slow to operate (i.e taking almost 7 minutes from switching it on until you could even begin browsing, and using 100% of the HDD while idle) Then I refurbished it, threw in an i7-2630qm, 16gb (2x8) DDR3 RAM, run the OS from a 120gb SSD, and installed a 750gb HDD with an adapter caddy in the old optical drive bay. Still using it to this day. It's still snappy and can run older games just fine, the main limiting factor right now is the integrated graphics keeping it down in performance. It was my first computer, and the one that got me into pc building (after I refurbished it I decided to build my own from the ground up). I plan to use it until it can't be used anymore.
What I do with these old laptop they make amazing home servers for data storage and streaming. Or do experiment run your developed stuffs in that and learn things on these
Bro i have a Dell Inspiron 5559 Laptop. Its pretty good but i wanna edit videos on davinci and record games with a really good quality. I need to upgrade lmao
I have 2 old laptop like this and I installed on one gg os and play these old nfs games, like Underground 2 or hot poursuit and Unreal Tournament. On the second I installed Linux. With an ssd they run great
Windows 10 LTSC / IOT edition / linux is a great idea !!! But mate , there is no way cs2 and Valorant is running on a core 2 duo and 3gigs of ram on any day. At least, not in a playable capacity.
Still using my 2012 macbook pro 15 inch. It’s still a pretty fast machine for what I need it to do. It has an i7-3615QM, 16 GB DDR3, GT 650M, and 240 GB SSD. It does anything, including even video editing, perfectly fine! Although it would be nice to have apple silicon, I don’t really need to upgrade if it does everything fine.
But windows 7 will make the laptop much more usable. So install windows 7 and ur pc will be good for most basic tasks such as watching RU-vid, listening to music, browsing social media, and office
@@bestcreate1417i have a Intel celeron n4020 witch seems actually pretty good. But ASUS has so much bloatware that the cpu is at 100% idle. I also have no virusses installed. It was like this when i got it 3 years ago. Valorant 3 fps Fortnite: crash low proformence
I just got second-hand hp elitebook 2760p, it came with i5 2zen, 4gb, but i did upgrade/replaced 4gb to 16gb ram, hard drive to SSD, and replaced windows 10 with ubuntu lts, planning to use it for android app developments viva android studio, it smoothly runs minecraft at 60fps, 35% gpu, 18% cpu,. Its amazing old beast, i am happy with this laptop, in future i will be upgrading its cpu to i7, and will replace some battery cells, also planning to add pcie sim slot,.
I have an HP 8200 Elite SFF from 2011 with upgraded RAM, a 1050ti, a Core i5-2400, an SSD, and an HDD running Windows 10 but with that expiring soon, it will be a Linux only machine.
i optimize my i3 4 gen intel hd gpu 8 gb rab and now i can play gta 3 trilogy smooth without lag and valorant run smooth on high setting andi download geforce now i have goood internet i can play cs2 fortnite and many others high graphics games in high setting without lag smooth
With RAM there are still a few situations where the upgrade can be substantial. If you're only using one stick of RAM, then adding a second stick or RAM will allow the RAM to run in dual channel mode, effectively allowing your PC to read/write twice as much data within a single clock cycle. Even if all of your RAM isn't being utilized, this will still often cause a performance jump. Another situation where upgrading the RAM can give a substantial difference is if you're using a system with an APU, as you're then using the same RAM for your CPU as your are for your GPU. In this case though speed is the main thing to worry about, as while slower RAM is generally OK for CPUs (though perhaps not ideal) it is detrimental to the GPU (Which is why dedicated GPUs have RAM on-board)
My father has brought a HP Laptop from 2012 and it is doing pretty good even I am watching this video with this laptop in full 1440p quality. It handles MInecraft, Call of duty 4 Modern Warfare, Call of duty 2, Asphalt 8. Still looking to this laptop gives me a smile on the face that how good this laptop it is. Although it can get hot like super it is not a problem for me since I always watch video beside my air cooler. My model is HP G62-a10se (dual HDD and SSD)
HP 250 G6 with Windows 11 has even simple things like RU-vid lagging all the time with barely any usage of interactions and simple games like Roblox lag every minute for 2 minutes. Is Windows 11 actually that of a problem or what?
*I have the exact same computer as you and I can confirm that Windows 11 lags so much. I don't think HP 250 G6 supports Windows 11. (I went back to Windows 10 and it is way better now. No more lag)*
@@smg5357 u can try installing tiny11 if u want which is a less bloated windows system Linux might be seen as weird from others but I doubt ur friends would that much If you want you can also just keep using 10, that should do you well until programs eventually stop supporting it but a web browser or smth would still work fine anyway
i optimize my i3 4 gen intel hd gpu 8 gb rab and now i can play gta 3 trilogy smooth without lag and valorant run smooth on high setting andi download geforce now i have goood internet i can play cs2 fortnite and many others high graphics games in high setting without lag smooth
I have a Intel Pentium G630 and GT710 GPU and i did video editing, thumbnail design and obs recording and little bit gameplay and it works fine.. It's around 13 year old pc. 💀 It's enough for students and lightweight office work..
I was hoping you to make some upgrades, maybe upgrading to 8 gigs of ram and installing Lubuntu, Mint, Zorin Lite, or some modern linux distro to keep it alive, but no, you wanted to play old games and to show that there is no blue screen when you open de borwser
I have a Toshiba 2008 windows vista laptop and maybe I should repair it (broken screen and dead battery most likely) bc it has a disk drive and I can upgrade the ram to be 4gb bc it was made when you could still upgrade your hardware also it has a CD drive which would be fun to use for my windows 98 roms I have that I've never played, I have a modern low end laptop with 4gb of ram but the windows 11 takes up alot of the performance of it that I kinda wanna downgrade to a older mid range laptop so I can get better os performance without compromising security of a modern laptop
i optimize my i3 4 gen intel hd gpu 8 gb rab and now i can play gta 3 trilogy smooth without lag and valorant run smooth on high setting andi download geforce now i have goood internet i can play cs2 fortnite and many others high graphics games in high setting without lag smooth