How do you make the deepest bass?

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Bass music production trick time! Here's a little psychoacoustic trick that makes deep things sound even deeper: make sure the fundamental note is very low, the harmonics are dense, but during the mix-down feel free to snip off all those low frequencies to make space for a dedicated sub-bass.
The track I analyse: Nox Vahn & Joseph Ray - Inhibitions ► • Nox Vahn & Joseph Ray ...
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Content:
0:00 audio example
0:50 the basic sawtooth wave
1:55 doing the same in your DAW
2:18 low frequencies problems
3:10 the fuller result
3:28 key takeaways
4:00 does it need to be analog?

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13 май 2024

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@OscarUnderdog 6 месяцев назад

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@somuchfortalent 6 месяцев назад

This is gold. It connects the act of sound design with the psychology of perception. Probably your best video, and only 5 minutes long.

@RoeJogan 6 месяцев назад

Waiting for the crispiest hi-hat, and snappiest snare! Amazing content... !!! its too bad they dont have a level 2 bell you can ring on your youtube channel.. kind of like an 808 cowbell

@iamdwsm 5 месяцев назад

Free your inhibitions. Immediately usable advice and straight to the point. Works great for a plucky bass sound as well. Fired up the sub phatty, sampled a nasty, plucky low bass, filtered out the fundamental, and my 808 kicks and toms punch right through with a nasty, nasty bass line over them.

@estufilla 6 месяцев назад

Oscar, be careful, because at some point we will ask you to make visual tutorials as well! Spot on, as always! Keep in on mate.

@djalteredego 6 месяцев назад

A comment outside the box. you have mastered the terminology, my friend. I am very impressed by how easily you can express and explain things. Very clever!

@tonair 6 месяцев назад

He's definitely put the reps in! Well deserved.

@hereforthenow 3 месяца назад

This was great for me thank you! I am a beginner and you answered all my questions and also elevated me by taking music theory- right on teaching method🙏🏼

@Fluxeon 6 месяцев назад

Really good stuff man, love the video! Interesting technique :)

@aad369aad 6 месяцев назад

You’re the man. Keep doing what you do !

@LearnWithStephen 6 месяцев назад

Great video. Thanks! You know I dug out my Korg M1 I bought new back in 1990 and put just such a slope on a project. Pitch bend and all. Got close to your example. Fun!

@JosBlomsma 6 месяцев назад

Je blijft me verrassen, Oscar! Niet alleen door het geven nieuwe inzichten, ook doordat je video's steeds meer 'eigen' worden.

@msgsaltsweet 5 месяцев назад

This is the golden tutorial. Thank you. 🧠

@rosskibossanova 6 месяцев назад

Great info, I can certainly relate when I’m mixing tracks with too many basses and will separate them out into their own space in the mix mainly band passes. And especially leaving a hole for the kick drum. But I didn’t know about the perception thing that’s really sweet to know! Thanks !

@niklaszimmermann446 6 месяцев назад

Clean Tutorial as always! The Bass you created is much like a psychedelic trance Bass. In this genre, much of this focused on that kind of Synthesis.

@Kyoshi2012 6 месяцев назад

Crazy man bringing it again!! Super tutorial, bedankt weer!

@hollowgroundproductions5933 6 месяцев назад

Nice! Good to know that the work of beasts like Joseph Ray is starting to get recognised by other Ableton tutors. I thought mine was the only one!!! His uniquely deep low end is fun to try and break down. Love your vids, Oscar!

@jean-marcdecanter7719 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Oscar ! Deep in the lows but high on sharing tips ! 😀

@Cult_of_the_Mantis 6 месяцев назад

This is fantastic, used it in two tracks already and I've it's going to take me a while to get bored of slinging bass about :D cheers mate

@alexanderogorodnikov5069 6 месяцев назад

Oscar, thank u 4 your videos! Every video is a new source of inspiration 4 me

@tadeocatzin6619 6 месяцев назад

Oscar throwing gems as usul. Thanks mate!!

@Drinkyoghurt 6 месяцев назад

The best hardware synth for Bass I can recommend is the Korg Volca Bass. You can pick them up used between €70-€100 and it has 3 analog oscillators and midi-in. By itself it sounds a bit weak, but add some drive/delay/reverb in Ableton or with Pedals and it absolutely slaps.

@djkrptdnb 6 месяцев назад

Great tip!

@Reallifetimbo 5 месяцев назад

So good!

@vlisak1 6 месяцев назад

Whaaaat? You change my mind ! Thnx!

@qr9180 6 месяцев назад

I've unsuscribed to every others youtube producers , ur the best i dont need anyone else 😁

@pltndbnn 6 месяцев назад

Woof 🐶 Please make a bigger video on kick n bass relations and frequencies 🙏🏻

@philfiebz 6 месяцев назад

Really cool that you made my recommendation into a video :D. I didn’t get it at all that the bassline in this track has no low end, but after I watched your video, it seems so clear. You showed us a monster technique. Thank you. If you can’t get enough of basslines, I got you: “Thomas Schumacher & Victor Ruiz - Intuit”

@OscarUnderdog 6 месяцев назад

Yeah i made a big list of them and will do a few of them as track analysis on patreon as well 😁🫶🏻 really appreciate your input!

@philfiebz 6 месяцев назад

@@OscarUnderdogI am happy that I could inspire you. Really curious which tracks you will analyze on Patreon. I am looking forward to it.

@boarderx949 6 месяцев назад

Love this tutorial. Diggin the Sub 37. I had one too but ended up getting a Voyager EB. Still wondering if I need another 37🤓. Keep up the amazing videos!

@supafly424 6 месяцев назад

a studio without a moog is no studio.

@zerotamtam5072 6 месяцев назад

BRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrwwwwhhhoooo sounds god, thank you. I'll try to make this sound with the Operator from Ableton.

@aldomaresca9994 6 месяцев назад

i cant resist, when you dance, i have to dance too

@joshkeating7825 6 месяцев назад

Thanks, man! Gotta bring that boooooomin bass!!!

@ir8123 6 месяцев назад

Those pair of Adam's are sick

@mlprod6202 6 месяцев назад

Yes i want to know !

@samfitzgerald7507 6 месяцев назад

Oscar with the absolute heat 🔥🔥🔥

@blasalvice 6 месяцев назад

Hell yeah!! Now that's exactly my jam. I've been trying to achieve that for so, so long Oscar. I can't believe I didn't think of shifting the pitch..! Also, there is a slightly different kind of bass that I can't quite figure out how to make. I hear it often in tracks from Township Rebellion. It's a way larger bass, it takes a whole lotta space and usually happens at a drop. It's kinda similar to that "bwwaaahhh" from Inception :D If you ever explore that, please share your discoveries with us

@harshmellow1706 6 месяцев назад

When i want to make things sound "larger", i try some kind of double tracking, apply a slight pitch difference between them and make sure each track plays with a difference of around 12-30 miliseconds between each other. Some minor slow modulation on them also helps.

@blasalvice 6 месяцев назад

Interesting... could I hear an example of that somewhere?@@harshmellow1706

@MadelnMachines 6 месяцев назад

Interesting...very interesting.

@peechannel8435 5 месяцев назад

this is very common in modern dubstep sound design!

@ettoremariotti4280 6 месяцев назад

Nice! I'd love a video where you approach the endless discussion of analog vs digital.

@wizards001 6 месяцев назад

digital is a good copy of analog... it can almost do what analog does, but when you push it, it just breaks, analog on the other hand when you push it up into the areas people say not to do... becomes that extra thing that you hear in great tracks

@ettoremariotti4280 6 месяцев назад

Well I haven't push the digital, but I'm sure that good things can be carved out of digital too... I think the issue is not that it breaks, rather that it's user interface is pretty limited and the expressivity through the mouse is just not expressive... what do you think?@@wizards001

@_greenleader 6 месяцев назад

Ha your video fx are amazing

6 месяцев назад

My speakers aren't the biggest so I put my headphones on to listen - wow, that's a deep sound you can hear and feel (if your speakers are big enough) - Thanks for explaning this 🙂

@JoyfulWAVE 6 месяцев назад

Thx Oscar...👍👍👍 ❤☮☯❤☮☯❤☮☯❤

@lewishamel8105 6 месяцев назад

Reminds me off west coast rap beats: using a 808 as low bass and moog/acid bassline in the lower mids for more melodic stuff

@kongregant8100 3 месяца назад

Thanks for this! In case u have a drop where no kick only bass is running are you automating eq to bring back the low freqs on the bass?

@emphii 6 месяцев назад

I’ve been wondering about the bass line on that track myself as it seems to contain both a deep kick with rumble plus the pitchdown bass without clashing into a mess. I guess another trick could be to tune the kick to an A so that the pitched bass melts in naturally and create this illusion of bottom end. What do you think? Cheers from Norway ✌🏻

@lester3960 6 месяцев назад

You cut the low end at 120hz, is that generally where to cut the low end on a dominant bass line or is it dependent on the fundamental frequency? Or do you just play with it till it sounds right? :) Solid content as always. Love and thanks from Los Angeles!

@OscarUnderdog 6 месяцев назад

Totally just felt that it was the sweet spot for this particular sound. Any higher and it sounded thin & weak, any lower and it felt like it would compete with the rumble!

@KimStennabbCaesar 6 месяцев назад

The latter is the best approach. Listen, and adjust until it "works" the way you want it to.

@thidominado 6 месяцев назад

Oscar Thee Great🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 thanx man

@jamalyannicguzmansierra7996 6 месяцев назад

Great one 👍 but what i found really interesting is the groovy rumble underneath. Can you explain how you made it so deep & groovy?

@Italliving 6 месяцев назад

he's got a video on the rumble part other tune do but same principle

@OscarUnderdog 6 месяцев назад

Yeah I’d say check the techno rumble mastery video! ☺️

@jamalyannicguzmansierra7996 5 месяцев назад

The rumble it self ist not the problem. I still don't figured out how i can apply that rhythm to the lowend which is slightly clompexer than just a dotted 8 delay. Maybe you can give me a tip to complete the puzzle 🧩😊

@infindebula 6 месяцев назад

Amazing. You make the deepest bass and it's not particularly deep at all. It's the growl of those really low oscillators with the fundamental filtered out. I might go for a slightly less steep filter, but I'm in the studio right now to try it out. I tend to spend a lot of time making very detailed bass for the dance floor, and it gets lost on smaller systems. This is the foundation of a better technique.

@daanseynaeve4157 5 месяцев назад

1500th like, and i thought i'd just come back to say that i use this trick all the time now...

@Bittamin 6 месяцев назад

Klaus veen basslines is a huge need

@mirceastaicu4131 6 месяцев назад

So let me see if I got this right, we can actually exploit the missing fundamental effect by having one instrument, a low mid range bass with its first harmonics suppressed by an EQ, and a second instrument or kick drum, playing in the same key as the low mid range bass, and we will have this interplay between these two instruments that add up to different notes, one providing the low fundamental frequencies via kick or sub, and one the high frequencies and the tonality?