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How do you paint a guitar with a binding? | The guitar kit from solo music gear (Part 9) 

Brad Angove
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@loscrimefighter1899
@loscrimefighter1899 5 лет назад
I literally just finished shooting a bound guitar, that I painstakingly masked the binding on. Guess what? Still gotta scrape,really no getting around it. Great video Brad, thanks for posting.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching.
@wallacesheckells9280
@wallacesheckells9280 6 лет назад
I prefer scrapping the binding, as you did. Like you said, patients is needed and nice sharp blade help. And if you want, prior to painting over the binding, mark the blade on one end how far down the binding is . Then flip the blade and mark the depth. This way if you are unsure of yourself, you have guide marks to help. Tape would be the choice to cover the gap between the marks so you don't cut yourself. I hope you understand this. Thanks Brad for sharing the video. Guitar is awsome! Can't wait to see the finished product.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
That’s a good idea Wallace. You can also tape the guitar edge at the base of the binding line to minimize the risk of scraping too far.
@ChrisJohnsonNMA
@ChrisJohnsonNMA 6 лет назад
that is definitely the way that I would approach binding, paint over and use a razor or something to scrape it off... I've never done it yet so I'm very anxious about trying it on the kit I'm going to build... This video helped me see that I really does just take some patience and some precision...
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Have a look through some of the other comments on here. Some people have provided tips on how to make it slightly less risky.
@stealthynoodle2707
@stealthynoodle2707 6 лет назад
This makes me feel a lot safer with wanting to paint my Rickenbacker 4003 copy.
@av.punk.801
@av.punk.801 3 года назад
Good ol' Chicen-backers. Swap the pickups for ones designed for actual Rics and they play like a thousand bucks. Hope it went well!
@karlvonpackal1402
@karlvonpackal1402 3 года назад
So I learned this from another luthier, he uses a scraper, and what he does is put the scraper over the binding only far enough to so not to hit the guitar, then he tapes where his hand would be to create a wall that he can use as a guide for scraping. This way the scraper never goes beyond the binding, it’s pretty badass and makes the job cleaner and faster.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 3 года назад
Yup, that’s a good way to do it. Another is to insert the razor blade into a small dowel and have it only protrude as far as you need it.
@kayakid2000
@kayakid2000 6 лет назад
Mad skills that binding really makes that guitar pop
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thank you. I think it gives a nice bit of contrast.
@PicksPaints
@PicksPaints 6 лет назад
Of the 3 methods, this is by far the easiest of them! Great tutorial. The tape trick Wallace mentioned is a good trick. It does take a little time to work out, but is a little safer on the overall end result.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Yes, it sounds like a good way to help reduce the risk of scraping too far.
@calansvc
@calansvc 6 лет назад
Awesome job. Can't wait to see this with some clear and depth to it.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
I published the video with the clear coat yesterday.
@calansvc
@calansvc 6 лет назад
Yep... just saw it. Looking good.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thanks.
@jeffgagawood3741
@jeffgagawood3741 2 года назад
Dude the airbrushed panels are 🔥but the tear out with blue flames not so much. But it’s your design and it’s still smoking great job learned a lot and thanks my man!!!
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
Thanks Jeff
@oliverlangrall2014
@oliverlangrall2014 2 месяца назад
I don't trust myself enough to blindly scrape away haha i think I would just tape it and then scrape it just so i can see exactly where the bindings at. cool video!
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 месяца назад
Probably a good idea haha
@TheJosephPhillips
@TheJosephPhillips 3 года назад
Thanks for the vid. I'm getting ready to refinish the top of an ibanez cmm2 with binding.. looks simple enough, I'll just go slow 👍
@joerox6003
@joerox6003 6 лет назад
That is a different looking paint job but VERY nice. I can't wait to see it finished.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thanks. I’m glad you like it.
@lbmscott
@lbmscott Год назад
Great video! How do you avoid or correct the ridge created from the blade? Where the paint meets the binding? Will the clear coat just fill it in?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove Год назад
With adequate clear coating and level sanding it should essentially go away. There’s usually a very small seam there anyway, so I don’t find this makes any real difference.
@lbmscott
@lbmscott Год назад
Thanks very much!
@maurice970
@maurice970 2 года назад
since the sides are easy to tape perhaps it would be nice to do that and finish things of with the razor. Would save some time I bet. thanks for the video Brad!
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
Yes I also do that sometimes.
@slapdashpt
@slapdashpt 6 лет назад
Thank you Brad. Great Tutorial.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching.
@chrishorton615
@chrishorton615 6 лет назад
Dude that's sick!
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thank you.
@doodoo7428
@doodoo7428 2 года назад
Hey quick question, so I’m just going to throw on a coat of black primer as the end result is just going to be a satin matte finish, I assume I just do the coats of primer, let it dry, scrape the binding, then go for the clear coat?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
Sand the primer lightly with 800 grit once dry. Black primer isn’t usually quite black, so you may want a black color coat as well, but it’s up to you.
@blackbirdpie217
@blackbirdpie217 5 лет назад
I've done both but not the removal method. Razor blades are hard to use. I watched the Gibson scrape master do it with a special tool so I bought it at Stewmac. Seems about the same to me still difficult. But yeah scraping is the way they do it at Gibson, likely every other pro manufacturer too.
@bramabull111
@bramabull111 Год назад
Hmm. It seems my black binding has some chips in it and is showing the wood color. I don't trust myself scraping for the first time ever. So I'm considering painting the whole guitar, taping beside the binding, then scraping the binding, and then filling the wood color with black paint of some sort with a small brush. Is this a good approach for my first time? I don't trust my hand scraping my first time without adding the tape before I start...
@BradAngove
@BradAngove Год назад
If the binding is actually missing a chunk I would fill it with black superglue probably.
@rdisipio
@rdisipio 2 года назад
In your opinion, is it necessary (or better) to use a single side razor blade, or can I use a utility knife with retractable razor?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
You could use a utility knife if you’re able to control it. I’ve recently done a couple binding scraping videos that offer some further assistance.
@rdisipio
@rdisipio 2 года назад
@@BradAngove I gave it a try but in the end what worked was a single sided razor blade stuck in a cork. That's a simple way to get a straight edge. Thanks for your videos!
@MikeCindyWhite
@MikeCindyWhite 5 лет назад
Looks awesome bro! 🎸👍👍
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 5 лет назад
Thanks man.
@turtleneck9995
@turtleneck9995 4 года назад
I know this might sound like a stupid question but, do we scrape off the paint from the binding before of after we had put on a clear cote? Also great video and thanks for the information, thumbs up.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 4 года назад
Before you clear coat. You can leave the clear coat over the binding on.
@nal3544
@nal3544 Год назад
Hi there, another great video. Looks as this is the way to go, scraping, that is. But does the delay in putting the clear coat on after scraping cause problems between the the colour and clear coat adhesion?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove Год назад
It depends on what paints you’re using. In some circumstances it could.
@GarlandBJJ
@GarlandBJJ 4 года назад
This may a stupid question but if a guitar doesn’t have a binding strip, and is just a wooden shell. If I were to stain the guitar, could I take a blade and create a bound edge using the technique you’re using here, by exposing the under layers, then poly the whole thing?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 4 года назад
You would generally tape off and seal that strip instead, then the stain won’t soak in there.
@GarlandBJJ
@GarlandBJJ 4 года назад
Brad Angove thats the second method you spoke of. Awesome, thanks man. Great channel!
@Prophitforprofit
@Prophitforprofit 3 года назад
What about clear lacquer finish? Can I paint over all the binding including the neck?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 3 года назад
Yes
@JSG-mw4qr
@JSG-mw4qr 2 года назад
I want to paint over some ugly binding on a b.c.rich, I'm hoping I can just sand off the finish and give it a few coats of black and then clear coat, wet sand, clear coat. Wet sand etc. Is there anything special I need to do to paint over abalone?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
No, that should work fine.
@JSG-mw4qr
@JSG-mw4qr 2 года назад
@@BradAngove thank you so much for the response! I'll tag you when it's done, going to look sick
@doknox
@doknox 4 года назад
Will stain or dyes color a white binding? Or should I tape it?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 3 года назад
They can, but you can generally scrape it clean again afterward.
@doknox
@doknox 3 года назад
@@BradAngove that's what I figured. Thank u sir.
@stevebolander9276
@stevebolander9276 2 года назад
Thanks Brad! My first attempt at this was your first method. Since I had to make repairs to the guitar anyway and the old binding needed replaced, I painted the guitar prior to replacing the purfling and binding. However, once I did replace the purfling and binding, I had glue everywhere! I'm currently in the process of of scraping off the excess binding material and glue. I'm going to have to repaint the guitar. I think that I should try to tape the purfling to minimize the amount of paint that I will need to scrape off. I can't imagine that it will scrape off as easily as the binding. Any recommendations?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
Take a look at the videos on my last two projects on this channel. I taped off the bindings on both and demonstrated a technique to help with scraping. The tape I used is probably a good option for purfling as well.
@CaptainRudy4021
@CaptainRudy4021 3 года назад
I'm building a guitar that I plan on adding binding to. Would it be practical to paint the guitar first and then route the channel? Or would the paint chip?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 3 года назад
The paint would probably chip.
@VicCross
@VicCross 6 лет назад
If doing stain, which option would people recommend? Still scraping? Or is that a better use of tape?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Use a q-tip or small brush to coat the binding in lacquer so it doesn’t get stained. Then the stain should just wipe off of it, and you can scrape whatever remains.
@VicCross
@VicCross 6 лет назад
Thanks, this is my first kit build so I am scouring youTube for examples. You do some great work, thank you for the response.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thanks Victor.
@mmengitaar
@mmengitaar 4 года назад
Did you start to remove the paint from the binding after the transparent lack?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 4 года назад
I do it before the clear coat generally.
@AaronBeyfus
@AaronBeyfus 5 лет назад
So basecoat, scrape binding, clear coat the whole thing or is it good to go like this?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 5 лет назад
Correct. Base coat, clean binding, clear coat.
@enriquemeza2984
@enriquemeza2984 3 года назад
Im working on building a new kit. I can buy with a binding channel or have the binding installed for me. Which would be better? Paint and scrape it or paint it and then try and do my own binding? Ive never done binding before
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 3 года назад
Paint and scrape. It’s risky trying to instal a binding after painting and you generally still need to scrape to get it flat.
@enriquemeza2984
@enriquemeza2984 3 года назад
@@BradAngove thank you so much, i love your videos they help me out so much
@rasidyabdulrahman7972
@rasidyabdulrahman7972 6 лет назад
Hey brad. I got this tip from a carpenter don't know if it is practical, but he says he would use wax to cover the binding then paint. And remove wax after.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
It’s practical in some instances. Paint doesn’t stick to wax, so it is sometimes used as a masking agent.
@totalgarbage2053
@totalgarbage2053 6 лет назад
Hey I had a question, is it possible to paint the neck and headstock of a guitar using spray paint? I thought Dave Ghrol had a guitar with a painted neck buts i assume it's been painted with a paintbrush, I wanted to tape up the fretboard with masking tape and paint the headstock and neck the same color as the body's Is this a thing I can do without sacrificing tone or comfort?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Sure. I released a video two weeks ago where I sprayed the neck. There no reason why it would affect tone, and comfort is subjective. I would avoid a full gloss to be able to play faster (for the neck), but you can just scuff if back with 1500 grit to achieve that after the fact if you want.
@totalgarbage2053
@totalgarbage2053 6 лет назад
Brad Angove Thank you! I'll be sure to watch the vid and to use the grit!
@marcoschmid4504
@marcoschmid4504 5 лет назад
Is it also possible to spray the clear coat over the binding and leave it like this or will it crack or something?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 5 лет назад
I clear coat over my bindings every time.
@marcoschmid4504
@marcoschmid4504 5 лет назад
@@BradAngove Thank you for the quick response
@NicB115
@NicB115 5 лет назад
What’s up brad! Love your videos. I’m working on my first kit. It’s a EVH Wolfgang copy with binding. I don’t like the binding and would like to hide it under the finish. Will I be able it under paint color/clear coats? Thanks in advance
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 5 лет назад
Yes, if you don’t like it you should be ok to just paint over it.
@lorenzofatalo9783
@lorenzofatalo9783 6 лет назад
what if you paint the binding on a guitar? i mean, you have no binding on it and you draw it and paint it, black maybe, how do you mask the top from getting sprayed but also have it straight?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Just with masking tape.
@5hredder
@5hredder 6 лет назад
when you do this, is it hard to avoid scraping the side too wide, making the wood bare, or the lines jagged?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
It’s a bit challenging. It definitely takes patience. You can put down a tape line to help avoid that if you want.
@5hredder
@5hredder 6 лет назад
okay, i noticed that it looked like even you screwed it up a little bit, though it was pretty good for the most part(i am not trying to call you out, since you arent a professional luthier, and i make mistakes like this too, because i am not professional either). if i remember correctly, the way that professional guitar builders do this is by scraping the binding, but using a finger to guide the blade as a depth stop, just like how you would circum around a guitar to draw an evenly spaced line. i have never actually put binding on any of my guitars though. maybe another way would also be to make it so the binding protrudes from the wood a little bit, so when you scrape it, you make it flush with the finish.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Having a protruding binding would be nice. If you observe carefully, I did use a finger as a guide for a lot of it.
@5hredder
@5hredder 6 лет назад
okay, i see it now.
@jimmi6756
@jimmi6756 6 лет назад
...Do you light sand it afterwards so that the paint can be even in surface with the binding or not??
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
I clear coat over it.
@jimmi6756
@jimmi6756 6 лет назад
Ok,thanks!
@frosttgasian1168
@frosttgasian1168 3 года назад
Could you go over the scraping technique in a little more detail?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 3 года назад
There are lots of good videos out there about binding scraping. If I do another bound guitar I will go over it though.
@casperboo5465
@casperboo5465 6 лет назад
Shes Looking Good Now Brad, I Think That Paint Job Is Just Awesome Thanks Again for THe Great Tips Etc Caunt Wait To See The Finished Result, Have You Got Any Thing Planned for The Neck And Head Stock ?? Cheers
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thank you. Did you see the episode where I put the dye on the neck?
@casperboo5465
@casperboo5465 6 лет назад
Hiya Brad No I Didint See That One Dont No How i Missed It,,, Because I All Ways Watch Your Videos,
@casperboo5465
@casperboo5465 6 лет назад
Found It Brad, Looks Really Good And Will Match The Body Perfectly Great Job, Thanks Cheers
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thanks. I’m glad you like it.
@casperboo5465
@casperboo5465 6 лет назад
Thank You Brad You Do Some Amazing Work
@realjumper
@realjumper 6 лет назад
I see how you went about this Brad, but what if the guitar was painted and finished in 2k clear? Would that hardness of the finish present a possible 'chip out' of finish when scraping the binding?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Yes. You would need to cut the line for the binding first, and you would likely end up with a ridge.
@realjumper
@realjumper 6 лет назад
Thanks Brad...this is something that I may run into. So given what you said, would it be worth painting such as you have done, then scrape the binding, then 2k clear over everything, including the binding, and call it done?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
That’s how I prefer to do it personally.
@realjumper
@realjumper 6 лет назад
Great...thanks man!
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
You’re welcome.
@jwarbur1
@jwarbur1 6 лет назад
I could have used this a month ago! The guitar I'm restoring is an old Les Paul copy with binding on the top and back. Worked fine by sanding and staining sides and back, but masking of bindings on the top left a little ridge where the paint built up - I did option 2, which was a pain in the ass. Suggestions for leveling that lip without removing the paint?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Is the paint protruding past the binding now?
@jwarbur1
@jwarbur1 6 лет назад
No, it's cleanly masked, but the paint is higher than the binding. Thanks for the reply! Your videos have been my handbook for this project.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Haha that’s what I meant by protruding. Are the colours opaque, or transparent? Have you already done your clear coat?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Haha that’s what I meant by protruding. Are the colours opaque, or transparent? Have you already done your clear coat?
@jwarbur1
@jwarbur1 6 лет назад
Haha. It's an opaque spray can gold, and I've done all my clear coating. Waiting for last coats to cure then moving on to sanding and polishing.
@mathewcostianes7472
@mathewcostianes7472 4 года назад
This is awesome! Does the paint come off the binding a bit easier than it does the wood?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 4 года назад
Yes, paint doesn’t really like to stick to plastic.
@littleolme9492
@littleolme9492 6 лет назад
That looks great, Brad! At the risk of having to issue a trigger warning about spoiler alerts, are you going to clear over the binding, too? Then leave it or scrape it off? I cleared before scraping the binding on my Les Paul copy, but with the multiple coats from the 2x spray can, there's a bit of a ridge. How do I get around that? (I dip-painted it and it turned out fantastic.)
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
I will be clearing directly over the binding and then leaving it like that. Are you trying to avoid having clear coat over yours?
@littleolme9492
@littleolme9492 6 лет назад
Brad, won't the plastic of the binding push off the clearcoat after a while, or at least wear off and look unsightly, especially in areas where there is a lot of skin contact such as where the arm of the player goes over the body? This is why I thought there shouldn't be clearcoat on the plastic. Wouldn't it be necessary to at least put some adhesion promoter on the plastic? That's what I used when I recoloured car interior parts, especially the polypropyline.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Adhesion promoter is an important part of painting plastic generally, but for just s binding like this the clear coat will bridge over it no problem, so that won’t be necessary.
@michielduijsings
@michielduijsings 6 лет назад
Hi Brad, would this work with a dye, like the Crimson stains?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Scraping the plastic? It should; yes.
@michielduijsings
@michielduijsings 6 лет назад
Brad Angove Thanks, I'll try that.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
I hope it goes well for you.
@caseyharris4013
@caseyharris4013 4 года назад
Can you just paint over the binding?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 4 года назад
Yes, if you want.
@caseyharris4013
@caseyharris4013 4 года назад
@@BradAngove thanks for responding! Great content!
@briangregory6303
@briangregory6303 6 лет назад
Since that's how it's done by the big name guitar makers, that must be the best way. Did you have to do any touch up?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
I didn’t on this one, but I have in the past.
@briangregory6303
@briangregory6303 6 лет назад
Brad Angove Would you touch up with spray, air brush? And I'm guessing you scrape before doing any clear?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Correct, and yes. A normal brush may also suffice for a touch up on this job.
@pieter314
@pieter314 5 лет назад
Hi Brad. Great tutorial again. I have 2 questions: 1. If you're done scraping, I guess the binding could be damaged with scratches. How would you fix that? 2. If the binding is not on yet, would you paint the routed edge or tape it of? Tnx
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 5 лет назад
You clear coat over the binding after and that sorts out the scratches. If the binding isn’t on there I would try to avoid painting the routed area, but generally you put the binding on there before paint because you have to do so much taping etc.
@manickn6819
@manickn6819 6 лет назад
I didn't know what the binding was. It definitely looks better with the paint off though.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
I think it adds a nice accent.
@manickn6819
@manickn6819 6 лет назад
I am accustomed seeing it on box guitars. Didn't know it had a name. Never saw it on an electric but you pulled it off nicely.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thank you.
@bobbyjones-uv5cn
@bobbyjones-uv5cn 2 года назад
What if we are using wood stain?
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
What are you trying to do?
@bobbyjones-uv5cn
@bobbyjones-uv5cn 2 года назад
@@BradAngove I'm trying to remove the clear coat and paint off the guitar and put ebony wood stain on it, but I'm afraid the stain will seep into the binding even if I mask it off.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
Is the binding white?
@bobbyjones-uv5cn
@bobbyjones-uv5cn 2 года назад
@@BradAngove yes. It's a signature 7 Mick Thomson warlock
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 2 года назад
Stain might get on it, but you can just scrape it with a razor blade after.
@inzanemetal1125
@inzanemetal1125 6 лет назад
Bro you just gained a subscriber and that was me
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Thank you Zane.
@inzanemetal1125
@inzanemetal1125 6 лет назад
Brad Angove bro I was just wondering if you could do a lightning bolt graphic
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Have a look at my 3 video series on how to paint your snowboard. I’m pretty sure I showed how to do a lightning bolt graphic in that series.
@inzanemetal1125
@inzanemetal1125 6 лет назад
Brad Angove okay bro thank a lot
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
You’re welcome.
@matblac19
@matblac19 6 лет назад
please give me that guitar, you really did a good job but seriously you should give me that tele ;)
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
You should make one!
@the_hippykiller22
@the_hippykiller22 3 года назад
I tried your technique and ended up going too far even though I tried to really do this clean and steady, now I have to redo the paint. Fuck my life
@bobby9727
@bobby9727 6 лет назад
Thats the way Gibson does it.
@BradAngove
@BradAngove 6 лет назад
Indeed.
@johnstitt2615
@johnstitt2615 5 лет назад
Have you had any more ridiculous comments that you have felt like pinning lately ?
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