How eBike Motors Are Tested! Behind Closed Doors At Bafang

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Have you ever wondered how an eBike motor is made? Or what exactly goes into the research and development process? Steve Jones visited Bafang in Suzhou, near Shanghai in China to take a look at their processes and give us some interesting industry insight into the world of e bike motor manufacturing!
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@embn 3 дня назад

Did you learn something new about Bafang from Steve's tour? Have you tried a Bafang motor yet? Let us know below 👇

@wangelite5279 3 дня назад

What an amazing company, a factory churning out cheap motor for weapons, that will be affordable for the buyer.

@GDawg2K2 3 дня назад

Been riding a Bafang M620 Ultra for about 2yr now. I simply couldn't ask for any more. What I just witnessed explains the reliability and power of this motor. Thx You for braving the "evil" China to bring us this report!

@dennisboyd1712 3 дня назад

Yes, it changed my opinion of Bafang

@deputydd4364 2 дня назад

I’ve been to Suzhou many times to visit electronics factories. But I never knew single track was so close! I’m doing that next time!

@vashon100 2 дня назад

0:25 You left out they destroy and eat dogs in China.

@andrewford9974 3 дня назад

Can I just say that the show's production value is top notch that climbing intro was epic

@ngilcvert3457 2 дня назад

That was an amazing inside view of Bafang. I have been building custom e-bikes with Bafang motors for 3 years, and now they are quality company. Now I have even more trust and excitement about using them! Thank you guys for the great video!

@Mindycogswell 3 дня назад

Very happy to see you have brought BAFANG systems to center stage on the channel. I sincerely hope that with this huge and dare I say expensive piece of journalism you’ll begin adding BAFANG motors to your usual lineups of various systems! Extremely. Happy with this work. Cheers from Ca.

@Ellerich800 3 дня назад

I want to hear about ebikes that use Bafang including the most powerful motors.

@antn8387 3 дня назад

That showroom and R&D facility is worldclass.

@AmvC 3 дня назад

I was in Shanghai a couple of years back. The size of this city is beyond belief for a humble European. My translators, everyone else on the team and everyone i was in conctact with were incredibly kind, help- and respecful

@RoissyAngel 3 дня назад

Very impressive. Amazing. If Bafang wish me to test their motors in 365 days of Welsh rain I am eager to volunteer.

@galgtr 3 дня назад

As the same of israel's dust powder and mud all year long. With the most rocky land of the galil. ❤😂

@mintsauce101 3 дня назад

They are missing 1 critical machine, the pedal strike machine! The death of every ebike motor.

@freeforester1717 2 дня назад

Aren’t Bafang motors relatively easily serviceable though, and with spare parts readily available?

@mintsauce101 2 дня назад

@@freeforester1717 Maybe if you have tools and equipment and confidence / experience, but that’s probably only 5% of owners so not sure your comment stands up.

@freeforester1717 2 дня назад

@@mintsauce101 my comments referred to repair by competent mechanics; many of those guys complain about the lack of parts availability for other marques, for no other reason than a stranglehold on said parts by the manufacturers, which force riders of broken or damaged motors to buy entire new units or even a new ebike, all for the want of specific parts; this is not Bagang’s philosophy.

@rac-beatzbeatscoversremixe5479 2 дня назад

@@freeforester1717 You're right! Unlike Bosch, Bafang is an open system. Literally every broken part can be replaced. And it's not that difficult. I speak from experience.

@AdrianoCasemiro 3 дня назад

I've been riding a DIY Bafang BBSO2 on a city bike and it's a hill climbing machine. Love that. Very smooth powerful little beauty.

@VadikRamm 3 дня назад

WOW! The only technology I am genuinely pleased regarding this video is that it's shot and uploaded in 4K! Great job!

@acelectricalsecurity 3 дня назад

I think a lot of people look down on bafang, but their facilities are second to none. My latest bike has the 510 motor, and it's actual peak output is over 700w

@likfrikbik 3 дня назад

Dear Bafang, get back to basics. That means BBS series, BBSHD best motor ever made. Made to last,easy to replace any part. Extremely rare thing these days. I know it's very bad business to make things that are high quality and long lasting,but on the long run your company will only grow. I would love to see upgraded BBSHD, with more power, this thing would sell like crazy!

@StephenRose-eu1vh 19 часов назад

That was so interesting to watch. You don’t realise how much work and effort goes into testing motors.

@chargeriderepeat7024 3 дня назад

My Bafang BBSHD took me up Helvellyn in one continous almost silent climb that emptied the 750W battery in 25 minutes and the motor was barely warm.

@vashon100 2 дня назад

Not familiar with that location/dist/elev, but that sounds like a quick drain. Can you elaborate, as I assume this is meant to be a good thing.

@rossg9363 3 дня назад

Bafang m620 is the boss motor and you didn't show it🤔

@LookingBackwards 2 дня назад

Brilliant production quality, loved it

@jokermtb 3 дня назад

Interesting series Steve. Hope you get a bit more look at ‘right to repair’ scenarios as this is perhaps the biggest deal in ebike world

@nosignalMTB 2 дня назад

Incredible cranks, glad to see the people that benefit from my purchase. Much appreciated from Canada 🇨🇦 155mm were a huge upgrade to my ep8 Santa Cruz Heckler, thanks again

@rac-beatzbeatscoversremixe5479 2 дня назад

I have a Bafang BBS01. After 2 years the controller burned out. I have now replaced myself. Bafang's system is open, making it easy to order and install broken parts. Bosch still has something to learn here.

@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v 3 дня назад

Something tells me Bafang is not quite content with taking a back seat to other well known name brands. Now if we could just get a independent company that tested all the Ebike motor to this level and beyond in the lab and real world.

@LeftCoaster113 3 дня назад

That was a great video! The crew at EMBN should be proud of that one. Was really cool to see a behind the scenes of testing. Bafang is definitely on the radar more these days for me. But if any this highlights a problem the e mtb industry has. If the bike i buy comes spec'd with whatever motor, i have no option as a consumer to buy and swap out different motors to try and own. I have to buy an entire bike and the system they tell me to ride . Ide like to honestly try or buy a bafang motor as well as others. Industry standard bolt pattern or adaptor jigs would be great.

@ziadabdul-nour5135 3 дня назад

I built a 150mm rear travel with an M500 during the pandemic due to the unavailability of the mainstream products. Bafang replaced the original motor due to a defective clutch when I received the motor, but with over 4000km since, it's been super reliable with no complaints. Affordable replacement parts are also a bonus.

@GDawg2K2 3 дня назад

Same here. I ended up with A Luna Z1 that uses the Bafang M620 Ultra. 160nm at 1500W. I reoutfitted the bike with AXS Eagle wireless derailer and dropper. Plus an EGGrider controller that offers Bluetooth tuning. I'm on my 3rd set of tires after somewhere around 10k kms. The motor just keeps delivering!

@samsopshanghai День назад

Excellent report video. Thanks for this.

@patrolmaverick 3 дня назад

That was great. I love these style videos showing how things are made and tested.

@embn 2 дня назад

We enjoy making them, thanks for watching 🤘

@paul07mountainbiking 3 дня назад

The big concern about e-bike systems is battery safety, obviously not helped by cheap Chinese made units that are built to a price point. After seeing the facility are you convinced that the safety standards of the Bafang systems are as high as the more “reputable” companies?

@SamsBikes 3 дня назад

Great video mate...

@jakebrakebill 3 дня назад

great video

@dewindoethdwl2798 3 дня назад

The best move Bafang could make is to have a range of their motors set up as replacements for existing bikes. I’d really consider putting the Brose in the bin if I could swap it for a reliable, waterproof and well engineered Chinese alternative.

@yuglobalcitizen2246 3 дня назад

This video has made me want to try out ebike instead of discriminating ebike in general

@johngreen787 3 дня назад

A very interesting video Steve, well done, 👍

@embn 2 дня назад

Thanks 👍

@richardharker2775 2 дня назад

You lucky fellow getting to tour that facility. It is huge and mind blowing how much they put into their systems.

@volneicycle 2 дня назад

The visit to Bafang was really cool, did you get to test the m820 engine? Bring an analysis between the m510 and m820.

@nicholaschai4458 2 дня назад

One of the proud onwer of bbs02

@danielsimmonds5162 3 дня назад

Another great video Steve, very informative and enlightening as anything "Chinese built" has to prove to be capable of outperforming all others just to be accepted by the "western world"! Lucky you to get access to the Bafang company 👍🏻🙂

@marklouieadame 3 дня назад

It is not accepted but suppression of competition. Lot of DIYers building their own emtb using m510 and the beast m600. If you want overpowered motor g620 lol... that motor is on another level. After this yay the demand will now be crazy

@ipearce1 3 дня назад

I would love to see the competitors testing as my Shimano’s EP8 in my experience dies after riding through a puddle 😩 covered by warranty (currently) be still a pain when you’re along way from home.

@keithattwood59 3 дня назад

I am going down the route of converting a "standard" bike with a Bafang kit. I have a branded ebike, but now I want something where I can replace and service all the parts myself, or as much as. Even software is available to program the controller for power delivery. Yes, integrated components are pretty, but I value practicality too.

@embn 2 дня назад

Cool! What bike are you going to use as the base?

@keithattwood59 2 дня назад

@@embn I'm into fat bikes, so I've got a Surly Wednesday and fitting a BBSHD 48V unit. Later, I'm looking at putting a Mastodon Pro front fork on. Just increased my rotors from 160mm to 180mm. I've found I need the bigger discs for control. It's pretty hilly where I live. My branded fat ebike is heavier than the Surley. That one came as a 250W class II for Europe, but uses the same controller and motor as the USA version. Fitting an eggrider display allows to unlock the power settings. The same eggrider display can be used to program the BBSHD controller.

@Mark26879 2 дня назад

Looking forward to you using the Markhor. I have the bigger brother to that bike with 1000w Awesome bikes

@Extremegaz25 3 дня назад

Wow I'm blown away at the bafang excellence. I'd love to try before I buy.?

@roneysilveira2153 3 дня назад

Every project has to grow with updates technology and ebike motors are relatively new on the market. All manufactures can have some issues and the response to fix them is the most important…!!! Very interesting visit, amaizing facility with a lot of hitec technology, I loved and true is change my vision of BAFANG ebike motors….have to start considering them 👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@hindesite 3 дня назад

So, after years of dismissing the world of DIY ebike conversions, now that they make OEM systems, you guys are all over them? Bafang would not exist without the support of the very bike riders you ignored for so long. And still do, quite honestly.

@mray8519 3 дня назад

I’m an average e-bike owner having a hub drive city bike and high end EMTB and have ZERO interest in some cobbled together DIY bike with batteries hanging out, loose wiring, etc. Just saying.

@joehoeper4648 3 дня назад

That's because DIY conversions are silly and couldn't look dorkier.

@JasonNosajasoNosaj 3 дня назад

It's cuz it's an ad so they paid them. Look at the AD in the thumbnail.

@khwolter9038 3 дня назад

I've seen some pretty nice DIY builds, and a lot of their stuff is a lot more open source than the OEM, no right to monkey with, systems. Certainly not for everyone, thought!

@rossg9363 3 дня назад

My first ebike was a DIY bafang bbshd on a high end Fuji mtb hardtail frame and it was the best cost effective introduction ebike I could have asked for! I'd still be riding it today if I didn't brake the frame. I sold the bbshd kit off it and pulled the trigger on a Bafang m620 29er compleat bike and am loving life. I agree bafang DIY kits are awesome even though I don't own one anymore I rate the highly❤

@saltydog888 3 дня назад

Bafang the world🤙🏽🤙🏽👌🏽

@mray8519 3 дня назад

Bosch, take note these guys have you in their sights.

@islandaerial3414 3 дня назад

Agree. Bosch is riding on their laurels which I have come to discover are woefully pathetic

@vashon100 2 дня назад

The water testing is impressive. Other motor manufacturers should be worried. I think between repair and water ingestion, riders are getting to the point of changing motor loyalty to the one that offers the best reliability in ALL emtb conditions and ease of repair.

@MaartenSFS 3 дня назад

Goes to show that some Chinese companies definitely produce some top-quality products!

@curtrichardson8002 3 дня назад

Bafang are better than most embt think,I have hub and mid drive bafang bikes and am very happy with performance, my rail is my favorite still with Bosch cx.

@user-lx6oj4mx3i 3 дня назад

Bafang is badass

@dodegkr 3 дня назад

they need to make a motor that will drop into a turbo levo, now that would be sweet

@octane_matty 3 дня назад

We need a comprehensive review of the M560 please!!

@Mindycogswell 2 дня назад

@@octane_matty are you riding the m560? I ordered a bike from superhuman (weaponx) and it comes with the m560. Not a lot of videos out there but I am concerned because the ones I saw make the motor sound crazy loud!

@mariowidmann4705 3 дня назад

Super 🍻

@tonucaferran2882 3 дня назад

I learn today you can have christmas tree in 30 juny😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@islandaerial3414 3 дня назад

Maybe it's time to consider trying the Chinesium unit. All I really need is a frame with the DU and controller. Lord knows I have enough 'parts' available to build a decent bike...

@marcolucarelli5165 16 часов назад

I have a trekking bike with bafang max drive engine, 51000km without problems.

@Simon-Simon-Simon 3 дня назад

when I see a refined 180mm travel mini dh bike with belt drive no chain and O'chain cranks all at a great price will look at it

@IslandFilmMaker 2 дня назад

EXCELLENT VIDEO 🎬🍻

@philiptuffs-wh7jp 3 дня назад

Yep I have a bafang for 10 years never serviced jet washed , smashed on rocks . Still no faults

@SafferCA 2 дня назад

Yep, I have a Bafang hub motor that has just done 20,000kms.

@martintramuntbikemallorcak481 День назад

I'm SICK of being the butt of jokes where I am.. about me building my own DIY chinese eMTB!! I built it around a BAFANG M510 motor, whenever my eMTB is parked up outside the many shops here I am affiliated with, EVERYONE looks at my bespoke DIY eMTB...and not the other "brands" - It is the best bike I've ever built!! and the greatest satisfaction when riding it! and yes.. It is BEAST! and yes... It is mostly CHINESE (but isn't everything in the bicycle world!! just "they" won't admit it!!)

@vaidotasratkus7619 3 дня назад

@EMBN was this sponsored trip?

@tonyrobinson1623 3 дня назад

Of course it was sponsored trip. All these channels are businesses who sell advertising for the sponsor.

@vaidotasratkus7619 2 дня назад

@@tonyrobinson1623 yes - all of them are busnises, but some lives from patrions and some from merch - others - have no morals and will advertise all kinds of shit

@cyblur 3 дня назад

Great Video. Just another reason to SLAPAHOE, when they say Bafang, is a cheap motor.

@RiteMau 2 дня назад

I love my G510 52v nominal voltage 30a controller 1740w peak power.(Biktrix juggernaut FS) I use it to tow my dog and his chariot behind me.(Burley Coho xc) he is 11 now and can’t run as far as I can ride an e-bike. It’s quiet too. I wanted to get a pinion MGU bike. But after hearing it, no thanks. I have gotten up to 53 mph 85 kph before and can beat any $10k + bike uphill and have 27.5” x 3.8” tires.

@mnmz6934 2 дня назад

Bafang> Bosch all day every day

@dae3xt 3 дня назад

I have a ebike reighn with a Yamaha motor . I just bought a bafang mid motor for my commuter bike. I think bafang motors are actually really good. they just get a bad rep because they are from china.

@barrygoh5840 3 дня назад

Some of the testing is not a real life situation test as the load test of the axle is not under load from 85-95kg rider stamping on the pedal

@EDDIE_389 3 дня назад

What I don't understand is why you don't see any eMTB people from China shredding in the mountains and trails.

@ronlind1757 3 дня назад

Any brands other than Vitus that use Bafang motors??

@Mindycogswell 3 дня назад

@ronlind1757. Check out superhuman bikes. Particularly the Weaponx

@Mindycogswell 2 дня назад

@@ronlind1757 superhuman makes their bikes using BAFANG namely the weaponx

@iptaylor 3 дня назад

Where can I buy a new original Bafang Crank nut, M16*P1*12?

@svenball5384 2 дня назад

AliExpress

@mamadjun 3 дня назад

Chinese and Taiwanese products are nowadays as reliable as their European counterparts and a whole lot cheaper. Spare parts are also easier to source.

@billymoranage2 3 дня назад

I've got a 510 motor on my Vitus and it's defiantly not waterproof .

@vashon100 2 дня назад

How is it defiant about waterproofing, unless you mean definitely.

@MarioNhampossa 3 дня назад

Sujo City!!! In my language means dirty city 😅

@MarioNhampossa 3 дня назад

I know it’s spelled differently 😅

@MarioNhampossa 3 дня назад

the idea of automatic transmission!!! we just sit and ride 🤔🤔🤔 something doesn’t feel right! Right??

@danielsimmonds5162 3 дня назад

Why havent bafang been used by any of the major EMTB manufacturers??

@moozeex1 3 дня назад

The Answer is simple.Bafang sells motors and systems on a open market meaning yuo can replace a motor or get parts yuorself. Saving allot off £££$$$."Big" MTB manufactures don't want this because they get a big cut for every motor "fixed" /replaced.They are not interested in fixing a 5$ broken part because it doesn't makes them MONEY!!! tHEY JUST CHARGE A PERSON FOR A NEW MOTOR WHICH COST 7 TO 800£/$. In other words. Modern bike manufacturers are aplying Apple sales modell to bike. It's better to buy a new bike than to fix an old one every couple years. You own nothing and you'll be happy about it. (Also Bfang is the only big company that sells motors are sold unrestricted!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

@danielsimmonds5162 3 дня назад

@@moozeex1 Good answer!! It does make one think about how the "Corporate" side of anything manufactured is not about the "Consumer" it's just about the Profit!! 😡

@sulleset 3 дня назад

They do with Vitus, one of UK biggest bike brand.

@moozeex1 3 дня назад

@@danielsimmonds5162 YEP!!!

@hindesite 3 дня назад

Not locked down enough and too easy to repair. Probably...

@user-lx6oj4mx3i 3 дня назад

Bbshd...for years

@apfolklore 3 дня назад

Sorry Charlie. I will not buy a total Chinese ebike. Bad enough that most parts come from there. BTW the dark humor about Chinese an even motors "in cages" joke was great.

@RAZ423 3 дня назад

The problem I have with Bafang isn't Bafang but a lifetime of purchasing items made by Chinese companies that blatantly lie about specifications and have the quality of sheer garbage, especially around batteries. On the other hand the testing is impressive. What I'd really like to know is who manufactures the battery cells? Any Bafang fanboys out there opened up a battery pack yet?

@rossg9363 3 дня назад

My bafang battery is ment to have LG batteries in it and LG batteries are green same as this video 🔋 but yeah I'd like to see the manufacturer factory say it to.