How Europe can be insanely rich, but still poor… 

The thumbnail with the Island of Ireland beside Britain labelled as UK is incorrect

How can Spain be a poor country?

RU-vid should ban you for spreading false information, you don't even look like you finished high school.

When are you going to address the overwhelming amount of comments calling you out on being super wrong in this one?

So explain why is Spain a former super power county turning into a poor country in this times?

Yeah, kind of derails the thesis of the video. If only they said "north-western" countries instead of "northern", I, a citizen of a north-eastern country, and who is acutely aware of how dirt-poor this part of Europe is, wouldn't wince at those comparisons :)

He also included Ireland as part of the UK in the thumbnail and this guy is British so I don't really understand how he could make stupid mistakes like that.

@@haroeneissa790 ye Ireland should have been shaded like Portugal in Spains one. Or they could have just not included either Portugal or Ireland.

@@chiefbeef9905 isnt Spain doing better economically than the UK now too?

@@hyperm8 not in most metrics. When looking at SoL, which this video is largely about, the majority of Spain fares quite significantly worse than the uk.

Prejudice

Italy too and prblly other countries

or slovenia

@@cnnibal GDP per capita in Slovenia is higher than in Portugal and the same as in Spain though

@@vkdrk Humm this GDP per capita of slovenia not many time. The GDP in Portugal is not so true, many shadow economy in Portugal i think Portugal have higer GDP per capita- And slovenia have 2 milion people , so is easy take high per capita

However, he forgot, for some reason, to say which is the most productive and richest area in Europe...

the only ex communist country that is same or even richer than them is slovenia

Bulgaria and Romania are the poorest in the EU, but if one day in the distant future Ucraine is admitted, it will be the poorest by far, plus it will need billions and perhaps trillions of Euros for its reconstruction.

@@snowdolphvov4193 Both Estonia and Lithuania have higher GDP per capita (PPP) than Spain. Soon Estonia will surpass Spain by per capita and Lithuania will also a few years after Estonia.

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As well as 11/21 countries highlighted as “rich”, misinformation’s pretty common nowadays but there’s no need to be angry

Well if you look at the pool and stats, i guess yes, woukd you say the opposite? Where r u living?

@@Snooper810 Which stats? There is no stats showing Bulgaria more wealthy than Italy!

I am Hungarian...see my comment above....we have higher inflation than ever since 1995!!!!!(there was a big austerity measure back than).

It obviously is what the fuck do you think Spain is Austria is a fucking place where it’s dark and has 2 million habitants

Well well how can I put these sunglasses on......? I usted live I Spain ( Japanese) what I observed....... UK salary is way higher, benefits counselling house association, taxes pàyers, huge , large jobs opportunities, Britishs citizenship tolerate with foreign without asking where are you from constantly ( exhauste) ,bourocracie system is easier in comparison SPAIN 🇪🇸, STUDYING set up is much better that Spain ( paying whole univeesity degree) . Banking system is more accurate in facilities term of helping out, business investing easier than Spain. 🎉🎉

And? So? All that you comment has nothing to do with what I said. Spain is not a poor country, which is what the video is about. Plus, I don't mind about the UK economic & social situation. Btw I used to live in UK, many years and it's no paradise ...

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

The UK is on the right track to make that image seem as wrong as possible now.

I think it's because the UK has a much higher GDP than Spain, and that includes GDP per capita... But of course, Spain's wealth is far better distributed, while the UK's is concentrated in far less hands. Also, religion plays a part. Spain's Catholicism teaches to be compassionate to the poor, while Britain's Anglicanism has nothing but contempt to them. Even if nowadays the majority of the population is secular, that still left a tradition in the country.

You are joking right? Most of spain is depopulated and empty due to their being no industry and jobs outside a few cities

@@XanderVJ You have a point, but Spain’s HDI is still higher than 11/21 countries highlighted as “rich” (including France) and more GDP per capita than the whole eastern bloc, so even if there is reasoning it is safe to say that the map is wrong

As a Brit I'd much rather be living in Spain than the UK. 1 in 5 people here live in poverty, and in many places child poverty is as high as 1 in 3. Our government is so disgustingly and blatantly incompetent and corrupt. Everything is on track to be privatised, and our public sectors are all being siphoned of money.

Fr, Italy is 8th too!

As compared to their northern counterparts

India is the 5th economy in the world…. Spain haven’t a lot of man power and Italy doesn’t have it too

I use india as a example because technically India is a "poor" country

And is top 5 economy in tu world

They aren’t, this video is pretty much misleading.

they are not. noy even close. Italy and Spain are among the richest countries in the EU. the 3rd and 4th economies respectively

@@javiuzq99 Exactly

they're not. the myth that northern europe is wealthier than southern europe relies on pretending europe goes not further east than Vienna. look at a map, Kyiv is as far north as Paris.

@@MarioLanzas. well Italy isn't precisely in he's best moment...

Spain and Italy do have lower GDP per capita; according to the World Bank in 2021, in nominal terms they have around USD30k and USD35K respectively; France, UK and Germany have around 43k, 47k and 50k. The IMF provides similar figures. Using PPP the gaps narrow but Spain and Italy still have lower figures. Even within Spain and Italy the North is much more industrialised and wealthy than the South. Portugal is a much smaller country so the comparison is less meaningful whereas Italy and Spain are more comparable in geographical size and population to France, Germany and UK. Poland, Bulgaria and Hungary are also not great comparisons since they are former Eastern Block countries which only began capitalist reforms 30 years ago so they've had much less time to develop their economies. Agriculture may be a small percentage of the economy now but before industrialisation ramped up it was a much larger share. So the Northern countries with stronger agricultural sectors and thus better food security 200 years ago were able to invest in industry earlier and thus got a head start compared to the Southern countries. This is what the video argues. Your other points are much more complicated and difficult to discuss based on objective facts. Of course land borders are not the only factor in wealth and industrialisation; for example, Switzerland is surrounded by mountains on all sides yet it's one of the wealthiest countries in the world. Why the industrial revolution happened where it did is also a very complicated question. But at a high level, it cannot be denied that Northern Europe (accounting for the circumstances of the former Eastern Block countreis) is clearly richer and more developed than the South.

@@poshbo Spain and Italy have a massive under the radar economy. I live in Spain and when some profesionals get to know you they offer pay in cash no v.a.t options. Also remember Spain came out if a civil war into a non oficial economic embargo until the 50's , which didnt help much.

@@j.b.2263 exactly what will bring you guys the next economic crisis

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Random fact: Portugal's GDP per capita is about the same as S Korea & Taiwan/ROC, which also hit the sweet spot of both being developed & having costs low enough to make semiconductor manufacturing attractive there

You can't say that, this is Geograph The return of the British Empire, and besides Spain can't be better than its British expats

@@2adamast i guess i can say this because its true. No offence though

True only problem in Spain is language, red tape mafia govt and less jobs ❤ but if u r rich pensioner or freelancer or having permanent source of income Spain is the best country in the whole world❤

@@2adamast living in spain and having lived in the UK for a year I can say spain is way better in almost every aspect of quality of life

i cant argue with spain having higher life expectancy and lower crime rates, but the rest is debatable. Spain does probably have better healthcare overall (more beds per capita than the UK) and to be honest ive never heard of spanish food apart from churos (lol) but people have heard of fish and chips, despite this i agree food in the uk is terrible. Ive heard spain has a decent high speed railway system too but one cant underestimate rail in the uk (birthplace of steam locomotives, james watt and all of that) Your other points i would contest however, as "more beautfil cities and towns" is subjective and I would completely disagree with "wealthier cultural and historic legacy" - this is just cope. Firstly, you re speaking english (hint) and globally, spain fell off after the peninsular war and hasnt remained active on the global stage since then (not involved in ww1, ww2). Looking at the soft power index, we see spain at 13th, whilst the uk and france largely alternate between first and secondplace respectively.

Italy is the 2th most industraliazed country in Europe, even more than UK and France.

Always has been since the mediterranean superpowers (genomes, venice and pisa republics) of the 1800s But this whole video is wrong so....

Exactly. This video just feeds off stereotypes, some random statistics taken out of context, and the analytical and interpretative abilities of a 10 year old on a camping trip.

​@@mattia8327 mediterranean superpowers 😂😂😂

Yes the Mediterranean was a superpower long before England and the Netherlands.@@smal750

Yeah it’s definitely wealthier than Bulgaria and Romania right? And they’re included in the ‘rich’ countries lol

Yeah, Spain is amongst the top in the world in gdp per capita, quality of life, education, wages and so on. Sure it has it number of flaws, and in some metrics is slightly lower than say France or Germany, but calling it a “poor country” is such a complete disconnect from reality. You’d have to go through insane mental gymnastics to imply Spain is not only among the *poorer* side in Europe but straight up poor? It’s ridiculous lol

Spain has a higher Human Development Index than over half the countries highlighted in blue. Here’s the list of al countries it surpasses: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and even France. Spain is not poor.

if this is "outdated" it's by several decades

@@Kanadabalsam I think the authors of this video think sunny=poor(?)

And also the fact that Spain and Italy are richer than half the countries highlighted as rich in the map

@@The_Soviet_Onion Mybe its gdp per capita, idk

@@Jere.M I mean in GDP per capita, Spain and Italy have a higher GDP per capita than half the countries highlighted in blue

@@The_Soviet_Onion true I dont think that those slavic countries have higher gdp per capita

@@Jere.M True, I know for a fact that 10/21 of all the countries highlighted as rich in the map have a lower GDP per capita than Spain, 11/21 if you do it with HDI (France joins the list)

This video is ridiculous. The relationship between Spain and America is not even mentioned

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

How can you say Brexit is responsible for anything ? We have just shut down the economy since 2020 . All of people still are not working properly. Inflation has norhing to do with Brexit as everyone is in the same boat.

What poverty.

@@michaelmoran1964 uk isnt usa or china the pound is falling the economy is stagnant for years now

​​​​​@@michaelmoran1964superMarket's in UK look's like Ghana after Brexit

This video is a total lie

And it is

yeah, this video is highly outdated, the economic crisis of pain basically ended in 2014-2016 still very late but spain has since recovered and the government which is socialist so when it said that the state wasn't involved in the economy wasn't true as it is much more laid off in places like Germany, a more liberal economy, and I think that it is a mistake to say that Spanish-African relations are not very beneficial as now i'ts because of that that spain wasn't reliant o russian gas like russia and now they are building an extension of that pipe to central European countries.

@@DiegoideGetsNoBitches And it’s not even that, even in the economic crisis Spain was better off than Eastern Europe, let alone now.

Spain, Italy and Portugal, mb even Greece, are richer than those

Because it is

Romania GDP/capita already above those of Greece and Portugal 😂😂😂

​@@HEMI345S that's not true

Greece is tho

@@HEMI345S That's false

​@@HEMI345S ​per capita is not only the basis for a country's development. Check the IMF classification of countries, and you will come to know that Portugal, Spain, Italy, and Greece are developed nations, unlike Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, and other Eastern European countries.😊

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

*a part not apart

And is rich apparently (even though it's the poorest country in the EU)

British doing geography, it's probably about highlighting failed empires vs British exceptionalism. The Bulgarian Empire is long ago, so it's OK.

😂😊

Brazil doesn't have the best geography. There are mountains between the coastal cities and the arable land towards the interior. Transportation is difficult and the infrastructure need for it is expensive to build and maintain. Germany has flat terrain with plenty of navigatable rivers that easily connect port cities like Hamburg to more central cities like Lepzig.

Vero e sorprendente, ma gli autori sono poco bene informati e mancano di abilita' nel descrivere come veramente stanno le cose dal punto di vista economico, sociale e regionale. Nell'ambito Europeo dove le frontiere non sono che limiti amministrativi questa analisi e' del tutto errata. Si spera che il loro prossimo video sia piu' intelligente!

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

interesting, i might visit bosnia on my way to albania

@@3digits13letters If you travel to Albania over southern Croatia visit Mostar, it is not big detour. But real thing is Sarajevo in August during film festival (11-18.08). City does not sleep, there are many events, parties, public film viewings... it is largest such festival in Southeast Europe with 100 000 visitors and whole city becomes huge open air stage.

Isn't Germany the best country by work life balance?

@@sounakchakeaborty-zt7td What makes you think so?

Also the weather in northern countries is worse than in the south, it's more than half of the year just rain and overcasting, of you cannot go out and enjoy the day, the only thing you will have is money. Also, things down in the south are cheaper, and you will not really get rich in northern countries, that is also a myth

Pues mira que es bien alta nuestra inflación, yo no la veo nada normal ni justificada

The average GDP per capita is $56k in London. The rest of the UK is $26k. UK is not a rich country but London is technically yes. Many British youngsters moved to Australia, Canada, or NZ for the better job opportunities. My cousin living in the UK told me it's the most miserable country for him so he wants to leave the UK.

Russia gdp in PPP: 4.8 trillion (33k per capita). Spain: 1.9 trillion. (30k per capita). GDP ppp even in capita is higer in Russia and that combined with low taxes in comparison to Spain.

@@sleepyjoe7843 I wonder how many millions of Russians can’t get those 33K ... I guess 11K of its nominal GDP are more real.

@@rsnankivell1962 I understand that you hate to see this high of GDP of Russia but it's just how it is. PPP is way more accurate.

@@sleepyjoe7843 You're wrong man. I don't hate any of that stuff. But Russia's what it is. Not as big, not as important as you say.

@@rsnankivell1962 I was not even talking about importance lol that's another topic. But you just proved my point by this. You are just hating.

By 2030 Romania will pass both on the GDP😂😂😂

@empty You are right!!Hungary is facing a bad future!!!we have the highest inflation in the EU...25%..foods are 42% expensiever (monthly)..by sommer one gyros will be cheaper in VIENNa!!!!than in budapest!!!!

@empty Frustration, and misinformation, pretty much, a lot of them still believe its 1980 or something, and all immigrants in Europe are Romanians

@@tamasmatyas1483 i still remember how for us from Baia Mare, Hungary was heaven in 90s, literally, we had a neighbor that went and buy stuff from Hungary each weekend and sell it cheaper than Shops, the way the describe Hungary was like god describe heaven, wtf happen with your country man, Hungary should be one of the richest countries in EU by now

Are we going to talk that he highligted Russia and Belarus on the blue "richer" part of Europe in 2:36 ?

what is food safety?

Also a life expectancy higher than every single blue country on the map (this is also true with Italy)

The average GDP per capita is $56k in London. The rest of the UK is $26k. UK is not a rich country but London is technically yes. Many British youngsters moved to Australia, Canada, or NZ for the better job opportunities. The journalist needs to stop spreading the misinformation. My cousin living in the UK told me it's the most miserable country for him so he wants to leave the UK.

France still has a better healthcare

As a french yes Spain is poor thats a facts

Yeah 70% of Italians and Spanish own a house but just 50% of the German own their homes. Guess you can drive luxury cars, wear expensive clothing, yet failing to archive anything significant in life.

Good thing no one uses median in calculations.

Do you actually know what the median is? @a.m.4148 Also of course when using stats you account for outliers on both ends but using the median is not the solution to that as it is simply the mid point of the data and doesn't tell you the weighting of either end. You could have 1 million people on €1 a day, 1 million and 5 people on €200 a day, and 1 million people on €5 billion a day but the median will show the €200 as the median. It completely ignores the reality of what is happening. All simple calculations are useless for actual analysis(Mean,Median, etc) it's why statistical analysis papers have so many ways to calculate results using the same dataset. You need to acknowledge all the different ways the data can be interpreted together. Best practice is using linear regression as you can see how the data forms a curve and depict visually where the outliers are.

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

por no hablar de que francia siempre nos lo ha puesto dificil para comerciar con el resto de europa. Un ejemplo muy reciente es el bloqueo a la construccion de un gaseoducto desde españa en medio de la reciente crisis de gas. Ni necesitandolo ellos nos ayudan a nosotros

@@sergicurero6219 Y aún así tenemos un IDH mayor que el de Francia, el hecho de que estemos en la región pobre es una mentira.

Not quite perfect weather conditions, for tourism and leisure maybe, but for economic development? Spain rivers are dry half of the year which is not quite good to navigate for commerce, and as a whole the lack of water is a real problem.

@@sans_hw187 Nowadays that isn t a problem, we have something called freeways that help very much

@@ppp903 yes it is a problem still, and other than that, you can’t build nuclear reactors if you don’t have water to cool them. Lack of water was, is and will always be a problem.

LOL please stop lying, Spain is not close to France in ANYTHING.

@@a.m.4148 The gap is ENORMOUS. GDP France: 2,782,777 GDP Spain: 1,400,520. Mininum wage France 1.500 euros. Spain: 700 euros. And so on...

@@colectivonmc4909 You are wrong. Minimum salary in France 1.709,3 €, in Spain 1.260€; IPC in France: 5,9%, in Spain: 4,1%; fiscal pressure in France(%GDP):46,7% , in Spain: 38,8%; VAT in France:20%, in Spain: 21%; maximum income tax rate in France: 55,6%, in Spain: 45,5%; IDH France: 0.903, Spain: 0.905; exports (%GDP) in France: 22.22%, in Spain:29.9%; life expectancy in France: 82.4, in Spain: 83.07. I think they both are pretty similar being Spain slightly better if it wasn't for the higher unemployment in Spain. Obviously, French economy is larger because there are some 20 million more inhabitants in France.

@@jonayz8655 Spain is the POOREST of France's neighbouring countries by far. You can somehow compare France to Germany but never ever to Spain. NEVER.

@@colectivonmc4909 I gave the data that prove you wrong, your only sources are yourself and your brother in law

The inflation is due to Italy and other bankrupt countries not being able to service their debt. Once you are over 90% of your gdp in debt, you are praxtically bankrupt. The only reason why you still function is by depreciatting the euro, which all other members of the zone, including the poorer ones have to endure. So it doesn’t matter that you are a donor when you live off the subsidies of others. Please don’t take that personaly.

@@indigobaloon8091 Italy has the Lowest Total Debt of Any major country in all of Europe. You haven't one clue of what you are talking about at all.

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

Agreed, the rent crisis happening in uk and netherlands makes thise countries unlivable considering that a BASIC wage is around 2k a month. Most of the unaducated in northen europe live on government money and alchool. Theyr gdp x capita is cheated by a small but immensly wealthy number on people.

@@eunanavesani6074 I did not know, thanks. We have lots of economic issues in Spain too. The first that comes to mind is unemployment. However, splitting Europe in rich and poor, as this videos tries to do, and saying Spain belongs to the latter is really misleading.

Querido espanhol se tu te queixas de Espanha ser mal vista imagina Portugal!

@@bladehea ¡vosotros igual! Es la visión del norte contra el sur de Europa, desgraciadamente... muy bonito Portugal, por cierto.

@@bladehea UK likes you not like us

As a Bulgarian, I'm just happy we weren't called 'poor' for once🥲 (even though we absolutely are)

@@vasilkrastenov3903 sending you the best of wishes from Spain. Yours is a truly rich country in many ways with an amazing history and tradition and full of beautiful people. You might be "poor" in monetary wealth, but Bulgaria is still somewhat unaffected by a terrible disease we suffer today in the West - woke culture, and that in itself is a success. Make sure you keep your country safe from that.

@@vasilkrastenov3903 Bulgaria/Romania are 'poor' compare with other western European countries but globally wise they are not that bad, both are classified as country with high income and we very very good economy growth

@@vasilkrastenov3903 not really, Bulgaria isn't truly "poor". I mean, it is the least rich EU country and even if you count all of Europe, Bulgaria is still in the "least rich club", but compared to the entire world, Bulgaria is rich. That just puts into perspective how ridiculously rich Europe overall is.

The funny thing is that he never mentions Latinamerica when trying to explain Spanish history...I am shocked of how someone so ignorant like this guy can get to so many people

"Good relations" is no the term I would use to describe our relation with Morocco xd

@@pizzaipinya2442 ironically, Spain is one of Morocco's largest trading partners, and Morocco is one of Spain's largest trading partners outside Europe.

@@ivanmacgar6447 I'm not saying they're not traders, but trading doesn't involve friendship

I used to live in Grimsby, and let me just say the poverty was so bad, it became normal. Most people there couldn’t afford anything. Child poverty and crime was astronomically high, it was almost beyond comprehension. I’ve never been abroad, but it seems far worse than any town in Spain or France.

Any town outside Madrid Rome or athens is more deprivated than any place in england

True lot of Brits after retirement thay prefer to live here in Spain bcz it's affordable good living standards similar culture good weather food sports and best health care system. Entertainment beaches everything 😉 u want Spain is best ❣️

@@zainulabdin1720 "similar culture" lmao no, the culture is opposite to each other, we have absolutely 0 in common with the anglos even if they are trying to brainwash us in recent times

@@hanyu_dada I mean not in deep like history or culture/ but pubs, social life, entertainment, football, Christmas, night life,white suprimacy,monarchies, etc

The average GDP per capita is $56k in London. The rest of the UK is $25k. UK is not a rich country but London is technically yes. Many British youngsters moved to Australia, Canada, or NZ for the better job opportunities. My cousin living in the UK told me it's the most miserable country for him so he wants to leave the UK.

which spain?

@@catpainter3165 there is diffrent spains?

Not really but recently its been harsh

Russia has controlled Crimea unopposed since 2014 it literally speaking an integral part of the Russian federation at this point. and Russia wont give it up without causing World War III. Russia should just leave Ukraine and in Return the west recognized Crimea as part of Russia its a done deal and war is over.

Yep. I live in a town called Grimsby, which is very close to the Humber river in the north. The amount of poverty here is shocking, I’m honestly surprised I’m not dead already. On an unrelated note, our economy is strong, it’s just not divided equally.

No hay que darle relevancia a estos videos, son una mera propaganda británica llena de falacias y conclusiones absurdas.

​@@inakigomezvereda hola

@d.r8482 yet spain and italy are the countries with the longest life expectancies on the world, grerat acomplishment for starving countries lmao

UK is not a rich country but London is technically yes because of financial industry. Lots of negative things in Spain like high unemployment rate, brain drain, unaffordable housing which means 80% of the younger Spanish adults live with their parents. The UK has faced the cost of living crisis.

Literalmente Cervantes ha revivido XD

@@adriandrzyzga6193 que gusto da ver un buen uso del lenguaje

Excelso comentario mi docto amigo. Permítame tan sólo el atrevimiento de añadir que, eso que este joven con pobres niveles de melanina ha afirmado, acerca de que si los Pirineos "nos impiden comerciar con el resto de Europa y que por eso comerciamos más con países pobres de África", implica ignorancia y estulticia a partes iguales. De hecho son los gabachos, nuestros tiernos vecinos allende la Galia, el principal obstáculo para nuestro normal desenvolvimiento en tierras europeas. No creo necesario recordar lo ocurrido con la destrucción de camiones y mercancías por parte de esos cabestros, así como la negativa de los franceses a la construcción del Midcat, la conexión del AVE, las conexiones eléctricas y el turbio incidente acaecido con el satélite "Ingenio". Bueno, esto último ya es añadir escarnio al oprobio. Lo tocante a África también es falso, ya quisiéramos nosotros que fuera verdad, pero ahí de nuevo nos sabotean los gabachos, que todavía consideran el continente como su cortijo. A excepción del comercio con los marroquíes, que si goza de buena salud, los tratos con el resto del continente son más bien escasos. ¡Ya nos cantara de otra manera el gallo si eso verdad fuera! Porque, en siendo de curso legal, vale lo mismo el dinero de un pobre que de un rico y muchos pocos hacen un bastante y de muchos granos está hecha la arena. Estos hijos de la pérfida Albion, inmunes al garrafón, los esputos y la paella recalentada, no pierden la ocasión, sino más bien el trasero por insultar y hacer demérito de nuestra Santa Religión Católica. Que sé que lo hacen de forma aviesa e indirecta, con subterfugios y correveydiles que si lo hiciesen a la mi cara, con mi acero les haría pagar su contumaz arrogancia. Bueno, no aburro más a usía ni a los presentes. Quedan ustedes con Dios. El Señor guarde a su señoría.

There is much more corruption in Eastern European countries that in those that you have mentioned. Hungary is a good exemple.

How is Poland poorer than Greece?

@@pawemaojo1229 greeks earn more money on average. For now. It's probably quite close these days. Greeks and spanish earn a little less than italians.

@@Hession0Drasha Italians earn much more than the greeks and a fair amount more than spaniards, go see ppp per capita’s latest estimates.

Poland is actually doing pretty well now. That country is really catching up with many of the North and West-European countries. The main problem in Southern Europe is good old fashioned corruption that is 1 of the most causes why they struggle.

@@sekhyhybrid6701 Poland lives on EU handouts

@@sekhyhybrid6701 that and bad economic policy, Portugal, Spain and Greece have all had far-left parties with great influence on the government over most of the last 10 years, basically high taxes and a LOT of bureaucracy lead to corruption, and therefore stagnation

@@sekhyhybrid6701 The corruption on Eastern europe is much higher. Hungary is a good example.

@@sergelondon916 and the West is living on cheap labour force in Poland and other Eastern countries. Pretty fair isn’t it?

Si no dependes del Estado y te permites pagar la sanidad privada, sí. Si no, no lo creo. El sistema educativo también es bastante nefasto

@@ivanovichdelfin8797 la sanidad pública en España es buena, es cierto que en los últimos años hay saturación pero sigue estando sobre UK, con respecto a la educación, dentro de la UE en general es buena y en España la educación terciaria es muy barata pagas solo un monto anual, accesible para b todas las personas incluso las personas menos favorecidas les cuesta 100% gratis en UK hay buenas universidades sin dudarlo, pero son carísimas, a nivel de idioma todos los países de la UE le llevan ventaja a UK que los originarios solo hablan inglés, España no es que sea el mejor con el tema de idiomas, pero también es fácil encontrar gente que hable 3, 4 o 5 idiomas en UK imposible, salvó que seas inmigrante. Educación a la justa UK, no todo lo que brilla es oro, como dije UK lo bueno que tiene es que hay mucho trabajo.

@@damb120 ¿Qué 3 o 4 idiomas? La gente solo habla español y el idioma de su región, y los más jóvenes algo de inglés. No creo que el poder encontrar más personas bilingues en España ya hace que tenga mejor sistema educativo. En Gran Bretaña muchos desprecian otros idiomas, se piensan que con el inglés es más que suficiente. Igualmente, yo no estoy comparando el sistema educativo, ni sanitario de España con otros países de Europa, de lo contrario pensaría que es bueno. Pero no me gustan muchas cosas, como lo que has mencionado de las listas de espera.

@@ivanovichdelfin8797 pues yo conozco varias personas que hablan idiomas incluso tengo una amiga que habla 6 con buen nivel, y he dicho que España no es fuerte en el idioma, pero si encuentras personas que sabe varios idiomas. He dicho que los últimos años la sanidad esta saturada, por eso se debe las listas de espera, pero con eso no quiere decir que sea de mala calidad, todos los que se atienden por sanidad privada, si están enfermos son remitidos a la sanidad pública, porque estos tienen mejores medios, además los medicamentos son muy baratos, incluso gratis.

El PIB per cápita promedio es de $ 56k en Londres. El resto del Reino Unido cuesta $ 26k. Reino Unido no es un país rico, pero Londres es técnicamente sí. Muchos jóvenes británicos se mudaron a Australia, Canadá o Nueva Zelanda en busca de mejores oportunidades laborales. Este periodista tiene que dejar de difundir la desinformación. Mi primo que vive en el Reino Unido me dijo que es el país más miserable para él, así que quiere irse del Reino Unido.

Uh, or it could be the north-south cline in genetic differences which are manifestly apparent from people's appearance and behavior. The further south you go, the more violent, lower IQ, higher consanguinity, etc. The reason why the mediterranean, and southern areas in the mediterranean, were richer at one point is they developed first, but that's the same for the many historical disparities in general. And Northern Italy, Northern Europe in general, was underdeveloped. This is the Jared Diamond, who is horribly incompetent even separate from anything he says about humans, hypothesis: It all comes down to a coincidence of geography and *not* genetics. But the reason why Northern Europe surpassed the south, why China surpassed India and Africa, and why China rose the way it did at all, were more predictive from genetics. In the long run genetics, not being first to some level of civilization, not geography, are more predictive than anything else.

@@hyponakte7430 Because they developed first. This actually counts against the Jared Diamond type thinking. A society composed of quality people can develop in as little as one generation and leap frog civilizations that had a 1000+ year head start. That's why places like Singapore and Korea developed so fast, why India and China leap-frogged Africa, and why Germany did the same in industrial and scientific output to France and England. Institutions matter, though much less so in a globalized world, but in the long run intelligence and other human capital traits are very predictive

You have to read the history of italy starting from the 1800s to understand that but if you think about it during the medieval and reneissance venice florence and a lot of other italian cities where basically superpowers that controlled small regions of italy thanks to trades and wealth accumulated by it . This didn’t even happen in the south except for maybe naples

Cultural influence from French, broh the roman empire was the center of civilisation for centuries and they basically created france who was just a troglodytes villages. It is not as easy there are so many factors that have lead lead Southern italy being poorer, from it being harder to build infrastructure etc.. in southern Italy, to corruption, to mafia, to more relaxed culture, etc..., lack of investment, late unification for italy that lead to some states (especially the southern to miss out on the benefits of the industrial revolution)

In fact historically Southern Italy and southern Spain were the most developed regions in wjole Europe until XVIII century. They always have the best weather conditions, great agriculture, and commerce. The most healthy and long-lived people in the whole world. Great culture from ancients times and so on. Meanwhile in northern Europe people died very early in life and have very little to eat and very bad living standards throught most part of the history.

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

Your statements contradict. You say that countries are poorer the further they are from the North Sea but then say the uk is similar to Spain and Spain is higher than Czechia. Unless the North Sea has moved recently that doesn’t add up. I accept the statements you make about which countries are wealthy but saying either north-south or centre-periphery is over simplistic and doesn’t take into account history, ports, politics and all the other factors. People try to put simple boxes around complicated objects and it just doesn’t work.

@@rnd.0m458 Proximity to the North sea is obviously a gross simplification, you must be disingenuous for taking it ar face value. The point is that all rich European countries are in the North and Centre Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Sweden and Norway. And the poor ones are in the periphery, the further away from these, the poorer they seem to be. Spain is closer to the U.K than the U.K is to Germany, and Spain is richer than Czechia, these are objective facts.

in what universe do you live for spain to be more developed than france 💀

@@kalliase In this universe.

Lithuania already has higher GDP per capita than Spain according to Wiki.

dilo tata

Lololol good one

Per capita Spain is much richer than Russia. Russia has 3 times more habitants

@@axwleurope9519 Same with Canada , AIt has the same resource based economy as Russia but with only 47 million people it still has a higher GDP than Russia.

​​@@Crashed131963 Canada is a full developed Industrialize nation , nothing like Russia.

Chisinau richer than Milan 😂

It makes sense. They really don't need to be super rich. Just enough to have a decent life. Another user from Poland mentioned the same thing.

I really hope this video is not your main source of information of what has happened back then (e.g. if you're younger or not that interested in general). That's an extremely simplified/incomplete view in your comment about on par with the quality of the video. Perhaps just to cheer you up, look at the development of the Euro vs Dollar during the last 5 years. I guess the southern economies are booming now, are they? The devaluing the Euro heaviliy (!) argument is mostly used by populist politicians, not so much by economists and so on. It's really economics from a bygone era when cheap production in Asia was not so much of a concern. Remember the 80ies when all was well? It's the European version of MAGA. Let's not forget who was in charge at the time of the debt crisis (a Southerner if we want to use the language of the video) and who argued for more Pan-European policies, taking away power from local governments and against building on sand by adding some digits (a Southerner again). The Euro was devalued then as it is right now, but I guess it needs to drop by 50%, 90%, 95%? Let's not be divided by some fools that want to sell a BS story that makes people emotional. No sane person that makes decisions says Southern Europeans are lazy and nobody in their right mind says France doesn't need some serious overhauls as do most Northern and most Southern nations in the EU. There will always be some s* talk, sure, but if that's the main take away, we don't have a future anymore as Europe. Just in case you're wondering: I'm btw both, North and South. We've become irreversibly interlinked forever with that open borders thing. That to me is more the reality. You can always colour the map in blue and red. As you pointed out yourself, your country is richer than many "blue" countries. You can even go into each country and then colour some more by region. I'm so sick of this neo nationalist attitude that may destroy the whole thing, leaving no future for our offspring. Always the fault of other people oppressing everyone, completely ignoring what's actually going on and that most of their arguments are simply not true. People make careers out of this you know. Even the Brits believed that, they're relatively rich and north, and they left - insanity

@@TheKlaun9 Okay, I've read your comment quite thoroughly, and I think I essentially agree on the same things. I'm not exactly sure what your position is regarding the EU as a whole? ("I'm both North and South"?, what does that mean?). But at least for me, I agree we are interlinked to the point of irreversibility. And I believe that is a good thing. It is a pleasure to have tourists from all over Europe visit our beaches and museums in the summer and I'm infinitely grateful I have the opportunity to work or study in the North visa-free. And I'm not saying the people in charge believe we're lazy, I obviously don't, I just pointed out that the stereotype is very real, and hurtful for us. The EU HAS to work, for all of our sakes. But I maintain the North does prioritise themselves at a cost to us that we shouldn't be footing. I don't know what you mean regarding the "development of the Euro vs Dollar during the last 5 years", it's maintained a relatively consistent average of 1,14 euro to the dollar, only in the last year or so has it truly plummeted. And no, our economies haven't been doing great, but soon Europe will be facing recession. The ECB will raise interest rates and mortgages (In Spain, variable mortgage rates are the norm) will soar to the point of unfeasibility for thousands of people. We will be significantly more affected than the North, as always. My sources on this are not the video (the quality of which is seriously lacking, I agree), by the way. I emigrated to the UK so most of what I read are UK and Spanish sources. I'm particularly fond of The Economist, and right now the cover of the Financial Times (I don't care to much for it, though) actually contains an article proving my exact same point titled "The wolf is coming: rising rates push Spain's homeowners to the brink". Now, we do indeed NEED serious overhauls in the local and European level. Centralisation would work miracles. The EU could manage our economies infinitely better than our national government ever could. But to do that we need to be more understanding of the needs of each EU region. Spain need's to stop receiving infrastructure grants and the Netherlands and Ireland have to stop acting as quasi-tax heavens. What the French did regarding the Midcat pipeline is selfish beyond comprehension and Germany really should have agreed to the bulk buying of gas (I'm really concerned about the welfare of Eastern Europeans this winter and the next because of that). And there's nothing neo-nationalist in that! We need to solve our problems together, through understanding and coordination. EVERYONE has to make sacrifices, that is reality, and the sooner we stop acting selfishly and prioritising our own interests above the block's the better. Soon, I fear it'll be too late anyway. Also "a Southerner if we want to use the language of the video" if your talking about Draghi (right?) he is absolutely a South European. I am too (until I get my UK citizenship next year, legally, always, at heart). What's wrong with this term? Also, I agree Brexit was absolutely mad... Leaving the EU out of pure arrogance..

@@jaime_niloo ok, I've apparently misread your comment then, the bad quality of the video in combination with echoing some of those more emotional points worried me. Both north and south means my family spans multiple countries. First, I don't have anything against the word south but against that north vs south narrative. I currently live in a northern state as well and all are struggleling at the moment. Nobody can afford a house. It's not north vs south, it's people making bad decisions and everyone against everyone. You made a couple of points I agree with or disagree with, but I don't disagree a lot. I'm still not a fan of pointing the finger to other nations not giving free money. Spain for example has major, major issues and receives a lot of help and it reforms a little bit, but it's all a slow process of negotiating with the eu on what to do to get more money. This following bit about Spain is not meant to say it shouldn't get help, not to say it hasn't reformed and doesn't mean that a strong spain is not in everyone's best interest. It's just to point out that there is an argument to be made to take some responsibility and that it's problems were not made in Brussels, Berlin or Paris. Idk if that's universal since I've never lived there myself, but I know this unique attitude from my Spanish relatives that you don't talk about problems, you ignore them. The fact is that this country has been ruled horribly over the past, idk, since the reconquista and that it's one of the best contemporary examples of pointing the finger, ignoring domestic issues, some corruption, lack of reforms and populism. It's just not the fault of any other country what's going on there because contemporary Spain is a continuation of the 80ies and 90ies (again, before asia emerged as competition which destroyed Italy and Spain), it's economically borderline peronism. Spain faced the same issues back then as now. This is really worrying to me, the last thing we need is another major crisis on top of everything. Should Europe work closer together? Yes, absolutely. But everyone is voting for insane maniacs that see the eu as their private money printing machine and expect healthier economies to sacrifice themselves. It's also always short term, let's get that vote by promising insanity and afterwards, no plan. Coordinating the current crisis alone via pleasing the Spanish, poles or whatever is not a good idea and those countries are basically complete opposites as are many more. Simplified view, just a yt comment, but there are multiple perspectives on things, it's not as clear cut and it's certainly not a problem of not enough free money - there is plenty. That's why I'm so annoyed at people repeating cheap propaganda by those idiots that get voted in. There are some more things I could say, Germany for example has decided to have a "enough is enough" attitude, going their own way, prioritizing their own well being and non-european interests & alliances. France has always done that, and now that creates friction - interesting thing, you sort of mentioned some of it, but I think my comment is long as it is. Europe faces so many issues and I think people misunderstand the whole concept. Neo nationalists get voted in, socialists get voted in, reasonable centrists are losing ground fast. The eu is used as a tool to blame things on it, get money to get rich or get into power by most of those politicians. I've never seen a serious economist claiming that the eu has been bad for anyone or that it or the euro produced a crisis or made it worse. The analysis always concludes with decade long bad politics, issues not dealt with and not enough taking responsibility for your own well being. I think the first step to fixing the eu is to stop all that propaganda and misinformation and give people a chance to make a decent decision during their elections and decent politicians to rise. Will there be conflict, friction, people doing things others don't like? Yes. Is competition a bad thing? No. But the blaming others has to stop.

@@TheKlaun9 Yeah, this happens a lot. Nobody agrees with anyone until people actually listen to what others have to say. I'm very glad to have been able to hear the points you brought up, though. Cheers, and good luck up there! Expansion: I apologise if I ever gave the impression I was using the EU as a scapegoat for my country's (and all of Southern Europe's) problems. I thoroughly DESPISE my our current government's fiscal policy and have just slightly (negligibly) more faith in the opposition. But it's true, we've been ruining our economy for years. The EU has always been right to demand reform, I fully stand by them and so are most Spanish people. In my experience, in fact, we are way more critical about ourselves than most other countries, the UK especially (god, it's as if whatever they do, in the eyes of the press, their problems are never their fault. It's STILL the EU or china or covid). Anyway, We are aware of our problems. We do talk about them. And we are changing! Spain used to be one of the most corrupt countries in Europe and now, we're on the same level as France and Belgium are, for example! thanks to many reforms and imported legislation. Me? I genuinely believe coordination is the best (and only) way to solve our problems. The interests of EU countries aren't that misaligned. Take Midcat: we could have built a pipeline to connect the gas supplies of Algeria to central Europe via Spain. There was literally no down side except France wanted to keep their nuclear power competitive and vetoed the plan. Eastern Europe will suffer (partly) thanks to Germany hoarding so much gas next winter. I know it's tough, but couldn't we have established a EU wide purchase? And it's not only France or Germany who should sacrifice, by no means think that`s my point. The South NEEDS (for our's and everyone else's sake) tougher economic control more than anybody and the best way to do that is centralising fiscal policy (as we have done to monetary policy). And honestly, I think the stimulus packages the EU gave in 2021 (the Next generation thing) were extremely STUPID. Nobody should have been given that much free money, especially not my government. I share your fear that if the EU turns into a battle royale with everyone simply fighting to get the most out of it (protecting industry or energy, money, obtaining favourable legislation...) those "idiots" WILL get voted in. Fake news and propaganda is already bad enough, and we need to stay together. The Eu's not perfect. And my intention was not to blame it for our problems, but the first step is admiting it could use a fix up (Many economists have in fact argued the euro's made the 2008 crisis worse, for instance.) I agree there is no point in blaming others, but we have to talk. Through respect, compassion, selflessness and foresight. As you put it: "If we don't talk and understand each other and realize why we act in a certain way, what our fears are and how to reach compromise, we may as well crown a king".

@@jaime_niloo expanded my answer, i had to read through some of your points, hence in parts. My new comment may seem a bit more antagonistic than I intended. If you're interested, please read it as mentioning some things from the other side, not a complete disagreement. It's hard to communicate this on yt and you may also have made the experience that some write in anger. I don't, I'm just really worried about the EU and the lack of open exchange. If we don't talk and understand each other and realize why we act in a certain way, what our fears are and how to reach compromise, we may as well crown a king

To be fair, the Netherlands for example has one of the highest rates of part-time workers in the world. The difference is that even working part time allows us to live very prosperous and luxurious lives while in the south wages tend to be much lower, even compared to the cost of living, which means that even tho they’re living ‘well’ despite working less, they’d never be as well off as their Northern counterparts. On top of that; this does not explain the much higher unemployment rates in the south. I mean, the unemployment rate in the Netherlands is 3.8% while the unemployment rate in Spain is about 15%. There’s a difference between ‘not working as hard’ and not working at all due to a lack of opportunities in weaker economies.

@@roy_hks The Netherlands is a exception rather that the rule. Life in Germany and most of northern european countries is trash. The wages are good but this doesn't matter if you work more that 44 hours per weak in most of the jobs. The exception is the Netherlands and Scandinavian Countries, but life in Germany, Czech Republic or Poland in comparison with life in Italy or Spain is horrible.

Exactly, it's the same in the UK. The economies of the North and South are very different and diverse from one-another.

No. Look at how much transfer payments are there in the EU.

@@hausmeisterbanane what are you talking about?

Franc is banana state😅 real. paris ok province 😢

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.

​@robban5545 You're missing the salient point. Eastern European countries through no fault of their own ended up being behind the Iron Curtain. This led to a catastrophic effect on the economic growth of these countries over decades. Countries like Poland & Estonia have been revolutionised since becoming free from communism, and the economic trajectory will lead to some of them overtaking the UK wrt GDP per capita (PPP) around the end of this decade. They will of course become net contributors to the EU in time. I guarantee you that there will be a North/South divide in Europe, and not West/East. It's worth remembering that even the old East Germany will still take a generation or two to fully shake off the long-lasting effects of communism as time passes and generations die off.

Poland receives 12,000 million euros a year, when Ukraine joins the EU, which is poorer, and Poland will have to give 1,000 million euros a year, instead of receiving 12,000, you tell me.

It is very easy to grow receiving 12,000 million euros a year

The YT channel is almost certainly a UK channel. Poland, and other Eastern European countries, are still catching up with the Western European countries, in other words they're still negatively affected by having been stuck behind the Iron Curtain for decades. Therefore, being net recipients would be expected. Wrt Poland, it's 2023 GDP figures are $842 billion nominal & $1.7 trillion (PPP). So the €12 billion net inflow from the EU is hardly the direct cause of Poland's economic performance. I think it's about 2029 that Poland is currently forecasted to outperform the UK wrt GDP per capita (PPP). But that's not really a big deal as the UK is the poorest country by this measurement west of the old Iron Curtain and north of the southern countries like Spain, Portugal & Italy.

But the UK is one the richest economies in the world? It IS a very wealthy nation. But yes, in terms of living standards, the UK is underwhelming for European standards, but it's no different to most other countries in Europe & the world at the moment. The average Italians are also suffering the same as the average Brits are, same with the French, Germans, etc.

@@baileybuckley497 I'm from Wales which on a per capita basis is not really rich. It's not a third world country either but the UK is extremely unequal and I think showing it as rich on average doesn't paint an accurate impression. London is home to most of that wealth.

@jko jko no, southern isnt divide, it is Western and Northern - Eastern

so Noth Italy could be central Europe, it is northern than Spain, Portugal, Greece and Croacia

Portugal: im a joke you?

@@alessiogagliardi4211 In European maps, Germany is usually labeled as being part of "central Europe." According to those maps, the whole of Italy would still be south. Spain would be directly west (more accurately southwest) of it. But I did my research and they label Spain as south because Italy, Greece and Spain share Mediterranean culture.

@@bladehea The only way Portugal could be considered south Europe is if it is culturally similar to Spain, Italy, Greece etc... Because from a cardinal direction viewpoint, it ain't in south Europe.

@@ImAFanboy so according to your reasoning Milan which is located an hour away from Switzerland is southern Europe, while Malaga which is located in the extreme south of the Iberian Peninsula is not southern Europe. Your view is too one-sided.

This video must be Polish, ah,ah,ah, Poland receives from the EU about 12,000 million euros per year, because is poor, Spain contributes net to the EU with about 1,000 million euros per year. Italy contributes net of 4,000 million euros per year to the UE.