How Evangelion Altered Anime Eternally 

Le_Carabinier Deep.

Le_Carabinier You’re a big boy

this comment is more psychological than the entire neon genisis evangelion series

? so, Evangelion makes anime a bit different from cartoon? So anime is just cartoon b4 Evangelion altered the anime? You can (not) be serious?

Sounds like it was the Watchmen or Viz of anime. Guy(s): Hey, you can do something different with this medium, here's *example* Everybody else: *example* was a success. COPY IT EXACTLY. Except all the Viz clones rapidly died out (not paying your artists = no more art), and American comics? Er, well...

This guy straight-up lied when he said episodic anime didn’t really exist before Evangelion.

@@LOSTGAM3R He didn't say that

@@LOSTGAM3R yeah he literally didn't say that dude. People like you are so fucking annoying.

@@LOSTGAM3R You could say NGE is like Christ. There's a before NGE and after NGE period of the Anime Industry.

@@Pduarte79 BNGE and ANGE, not bad

Oh boy.. Monster. I need to get to that as well -.-

Binging neon genesis evangelion isn't really the best thing you can do haha

I read a lot of the manga but didn't like it

binging nge is like getting depression speedrun

This guy straight-up lied when he said episodic anime didn’t really exist before Evangelion.

went in the comments just for this

Post evangelion is a time of peace and enjoying generic anime tropes like a daily cup of tea/can of coke zero. Pre Evangelion... Well i shouldnt have watched Devilman Crybaby and Gakkou Gurashi with that so im stuck in an existential crisis fueled by nightmares and paranoia.

How does it work if it was the second show I ever saw, first being Bebop?

I need no channel youtube! That just means its all downhill.

+PSNSMANIACALMIND1st Isnt it always? A descent into depravity...

but..... tthose 2 shows you mention in your "Pre-Evangelion" are "Post-Evangelion"

tfw no u it altered me internally

exactly my thoughts.Same shit with music ,art and pretty much everything.people drank the evangelion kool-aid and praise it as the best anime ever even though it's a botched anime that lacked the budget to fully realize and even finish....it's like praising a song as a masterpiece even thought it suddenly cuts for no reason and the last minute is fumbled static with the proper ending being released some years later...

me too. Now I can fap to comatose girls without feeling guilty. Ty Shinji!!! (now get in the robot)

Same

You Can (Not) Go Back

i recently found out abt it, well within the end of 2019 and the beginning of 2020 but its probably changed my entire view on anime, it will always and forever be my favorite anime and hold a special place in my heart

berserk is one of the only shows in which i reallly push the manga absolutely fantastic manga art it just doesnt have the same appeal put to animation with color

The third movie did the eclipse better than the 97 anime

A incomplete adaptation

yup, only one.

@@girthicusmaximus I push manga to pretty much most manga. The only exceptions for me is the 4 Panel manga, Attack on Titan or Demon Slayer.

Yeah, I mean jesus christ, the fact that this discussion is even being had means that *literally everyone has seen Evangelion*.

Evangelion's plot isn't overcomplicated - it just heavily relies on implicit storytelling. If you miss it, you're lost and confused until your 10th analysis video clears it up - only to be debunked by your 13th analysis video. sad boi has bad dad, good mom, bad situation, good waifus, bad mental health, good robo mom, bad plot progression and pacing, a life ruining experience; 10/10

Those saying Evangelion is overcomplicated or fake-deep are basically too dumb.... So, the fanbase for Code GayAss and Shit Art Online....

@@daerovius7535 I'd beg to differ. People who consider themselves above Evangelion aren't likely to announce themselves as fans of either of those shows without some pretty big qualifiers.

Eva is not complicated at all. You just have to look and listen. And a lot of human issues are portrayed so correctly, that it is almost scary and definitely heartbreaking.

He should be careful what he wishes for. Whatever anyone's opinion of the show is, they'd have to admit "polarizing" is a very accurate way to describe it. Me, for instance, I thought it was a complete and unmitigated disaster.

Gotta agree: The show literally makes everything good about it a bad thing. Not to mention it fucks up so many deconstructions that other anime did before it, especially the one IT WS BASED OFF.

When your an anime reviewer talking about the most influential and controversial anime of all time is kinda inevitable.

It's reasonable, I like to people to see things I love as well; remember that Digi gives Eva 10/10

Every person with a bit of interest on the medium and some other bit of taste should do it.

Let me know which version accomplishes that.

Honestly kinda true, it's basically just, "These are the shows that came before Eva, and these are the shows that came after Eva"

Holy fuck.

pretty much, and how his work have such influence in a lot of people, a great example would be Devilman, thanks to that we have berserk and thanks to berserk we have dark souls, that's how really complex it really is.

He didn’t do shit with magical girls.

@@thomasffrench3639 yeah it's not like cutie honey is the founding work of the genre or anything like that. Absolutely had nothing to do with the popularity of female protagonists in action roles. Absolutely didn't pioneer the ever so iconic and fundamental aspect of the transformations since 1973. Not all.

@@godzillacc5 I don’t think that a female Kamen Rider counts as a magical girl show. It’s a western thing to call it magical girl. Also Sally the Witch was the first magical girl.

Ray Ye I couldn't agree more. Many people ignore the context when something was created. There are way too many things signed to NGE which I don't know whether this guy is fangirling or serious. One example - Utena is mostly influenced by Rose of Versailles, this guy ignores influence of other shows (why couldn't Serial Experiments Lain influence something?) and is pretty much ignorant about older anime which aren't mostly for child audience, there are also mangas with dark themes (Berserk was still good at that time).

interesting. SOMEONE MAKE A VIDEO ON THIS AS WELL!!

I thought the same, most Evangelion fans think everything revolves around their ultra-deep you-need-300-IQ-to-understand-it anime smh

I disagree. The show has little touch of their present reality. Slowing economy is quite the opposite of encouraging original shows/ideas/adult themes. If I really have to look hard for a connection is that the working adults spent less more time outdoors and watched more during that time.

Ray Ye honestly people like you annoy me the most you bitch about the video instead of taking action if you want something like that do it yourself be a man of actions not words

As long as you don't compare season 3 of Twin Peaks to the Rebuild of Evangelion films.

never really watched those... Are they good? S3 TP was AWESOME, even better than the original run in many aspects.

The Rebuilds are alright anime films, but loose out on a lot of the complexity and meaning of the original Neon Genesis Evangelion, and in some ways are clear cash grabs, while Twin Peaks season 3 surpassed seasons 1 and especially 2. Unless you care about spoilers, I'd highly recommend checking Demolition D's three part series on the original NGE vs the Rebuilds.

SkyGears I've been a fool to myself. I thought that I could live for no one else.

Good job Josuke, you are living up to your name!

BUT NOW THROUGH ALL THE HURT AND PAIN

TUMBLING DOWN

It’s time for me to respect, the ones you love mean more than anything...

literally what i was thinking

He needs the cash to pay for all those meds.

I'm even more worried about their phrase: "touch your Ni(i)ssan" Subliminal message from Digibro, showing how Hideaki Anno once again changed anime, this time by starting the everpresent incest cliche (specially the "not blood related so it's okay" one)

+TheNikoNik With what? Rei? I never really bought that argument.

This guy straight-up lies when he said episodic anime didn’t really exist before Evangelion.

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Yes.

Akatsubasa It's more of a influential flow Utena got inspired by Eva, Princess tutu got inspired by Utena and Madoka got inspired by Princess tutu

The point of the video is how modern anime as a whole has been shaped by it so yes, Madoka obviously has Eva influences.

Waldo Lumberjack I always felt that Madoka's influence was based a bit more on Bokurano and Utena then Tutu. That's not to say that Tutu didn't have some driving force behind it, but these two series seemed to have considerably more parallels with Madoka's final product.

Waldo Lumberjack despite Madoka having stunning visuals, I still prefer tutu to madoka.

something631 the japanese economy going into recession wss caused by capitalism. This is why we need Communism.

mrmeatman You poor baby.

You have a great point

Dark Portal I understand the point he is trying to make. Pretty much everything he said can't be proven or disproven, but I just think his evidence isn't convincing enough. 2:56 You can see El Hazard: The Wanderers beside Evangelion on the same seasonal chart, an original anime with 26 episodes airing alongside Evangelion. There are also dark mecha TV anime before Evangelion existed, maybe Escaflowne and Nadesico were influence by those shows instead.

There's no luxury gay space communism in anime but there's already luxury gay skate communism from anime

Lain made a lot more sense to me than Evangelion. I think Eva is overrated and has more plot holes than swiss cheese.

@@MagnificentSkim Plot holes? Which ones?

Watch Primer...

​@@pinecone5551 Some common (but still fairly concrete) plot complaints I see thrown about: - The lack of basic psychiatric support for NERV pilots/staff - Why no mood altering drugs are ever used on the pilots (mostly since Gendo comes off as the "by any means necessary" type) - The lack of any sort of training/preparation for Shinji/Toji/other pilot candidates despite all of Gendo's/NERV's resources (Asuka clearly received some, Rei almost certainly did, but no one else?) - SEELE's near-complete forecast of events/The Dead Sea Scrolls (named, but never elaborated on outside of fringe supplementaries, very convenient) - Why the Eva/Pilot system is needed at all if things like Jet Alone & dummy plugs exist and 3rd Impact can be triggered using captured angels + clones with angel souls from before the creation of Evas - How Gendo devised his own way to trigger 3rd Impact (since The Dead Sea Scrolls appear to be the only source of info on it and there's no indication that Gendo ever has access to them) - "A 0.000000001% chance" quickly becoming code for "this crazy thing will successfully happen/work 1st try" - EVA-00's soul (since Rei has no mother and is a series of clones sharing one soul if the "Chamber of Guf closed" dialogue tied to her creation is to be taken by any conventional meaning, including how EoE later uses it) - The workings of the 2nd Impact (beyond "humans messed with Adam and he became light but we did a thing that didn't involve Evas but involved the Lance of Longinus and maybe plugs to revert him into an embryo so it wasn't a total disaster") - The workings of the 3rd Impact (only if we consider NGE TV on its own, which some people do in conversation) Personally I'm aware that at least some of things have explanations somewhere, but mostly outside the original series and its context. I can't blame people for wanting it to be complete with these points either.

@@T_K7 I don't find most of these complaints to be valid. Most of these points can be explained through information in the show, not even outside of the show's context but within the show itself. And the other points can be chalked up to mysteries for the sake of mysteries, which I don't find to be a problem as long as they provide speculation, aren't extremely important, and don't contradict the logic of the universe. The soul of Unit 00 debate is a perfect example of this, and the fanbase generally agrees that Unit 00 has Rei I's soul. However, yeah, it is somewhat ridiculous that NERV has no psychiatric support, but Gendo is a complete asshole and he runs the business so whatever, I guess it's in character for him. Also, I wrote that comment 10 months ago, and I have changed my mind. There is one plot hole in Eva. In episode 2, Seele describes that the attack from the 3rd Angel was unexpected, just like the 2nd impact that happened 15 years ago. Seele should have already known about the 3rd Angels attack due to the Dead Sea Scrolls, but more importantly, Seele were the people that caused 2nd impact, it was no accident. This blantant plot hole is clearly only hear because the plot changed throughout production, and I'm not particularly bothered by it tbh.

Joshua Silva ... 👀 But... it’s actually good though.

Making a great product based off stealing ideas from small, talented artists?

@@alexevanspoppsychedelicren4158 Well I don't think it is stealing as much of working with them and even when he 'steals' he gets permission or signs them.Do you really think Kid Cudi and Chance the Rapper would be as big as they are without Kanye.

Well, not really NGE is awesome, and Kanye West is at best absolute crap

@@daerovius7535 Have you ever heard a Kanye album?

I was at that point around the mid 2000s, but if you haven't done so you should watch death note, gurenn lagann and even eureka seven. Those are all shows i missed because i thought the same. I was a fool in retrospect, maybe you will see that if you go back watching anime as well. Good luck and have fun! Would also suggest looking outside of anime itself and try to find the sources for most of the really good shows. Fate/ Stay Night has a visual novel, so does Steins:Gate and the new Steins:Gate 0 as well.

Well, less ABOUT Eva and more on it's impact on the medium. But still.

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ARandomGuy imo it’s just a good show but it did not save it

No, it just changed it. It wasn't really a bad for anime before evangelion but it was completely different.

As Anno intended

Jojo in the background standing menacingly

I feel like the main difference between their influence is that while Gundam was influential, it's influence was mainly on other mecha anime. Thanks to it we got Macross, Votoms, Patlabor and eventually Evangelion itself. But Evangelion just had influence on tv anime in general and in fact I think it allowed the medium to explore other genre a bit more.

Oh I don't discredit the significance of eva in anime. I agree, eva broke convention by telling an original story directed by a visionary who's uncompromised vision (save for budget) pushed the medium to new heights. We can thank mainly Yamato for Gundam. Regardless of the era, there were truly paramount anime. I'm afraid to say anime theses just arent the same. I'm very opposed the direction anime is going. The newest anime that made an impact on me was gundam thunderbolt, but I'm probably a bit biased :p I have yet to watch your name though.

> I'm very opposed the direction anime is going. How come? I'd say more genre, narrative and visual variety in anime is always a great thing. There have been a lot more experimental anime since the mid-90s. I mean do you imagine someone like Masaaki Yuasa or Kunihiko Ikuhara in the 80s?

He did basically state the anime while showing it though

Boogiepop Phantom deservers your time. You should watch the new Boogiepop anime before that. Or, even better, read the first, the second and the fourth novel.

GR3ND3L_1999 there was moe in the 80's

But moe is pretty much dead nowdays. Word "moe" is dead nowdays in japan

I don't like Eva but gotta agree, moe anime is trash and people who watch it are desperate neets

Lol please

Evangelion is the most moe anime ever made.

was about to saz this

Yuzu Trash I'm an american and I only know these shows because I like to look up old and obscure anime oddities. It is kinda interesting to see how different animes are popular in different countries

The thing is that the west has programs for the audience that those target. So we don’t have the demand for them, and the demand for media in the west might be more niche in Japan.

me too m8, i've been looking to find someone that still has the videos i haven't watched like an idiot but no results yet.

wait what? why?

www.reddit.com/r/Digibro/comments/6jns8d/one_of_your_contemporaries_sudostef_has/?st=j5x0600e&sh=9e6e6930 all i know

little late to the comment, but if you want basically everything sudostef said about eva and his analysis, just go to the evageeks wiki. It has everything he's said and more.