How far can electric cars REALLY go in the summer? We drive 12 until they DIE! | What Car? 

NEDC = Not even damn close. WLTP = way less than predicted.

"Wouldn't be safe to run cars totally out of charge on the public road network" Shots fired Matt Watson from CarWow

It should be noted that the Model 3 is on the optional 19 inch wheels, this drops the estimated range by 26 miles on the WLTP cycle, even taking the shortfall in to account that would be an approximate 20 mile range increase in this test and a corresponding increase in efficiency.

That 9-year old, 250k mile Tesla seems to be well worth the money!

Can confirm that in my 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD I'm frequently getting 4.4 m/kWh on longer trips. It's not an anomaly.

I love how you included the used Tesla model S. Theres multiple electric range test videos online but adding in a high mileage car does make it more interesting

Nobody charges at home at 22.4p rate.!!! More like 7p. You misleading people here.

It’s never a fair comparison if you make a Tesla charge at Gridserve! I guarantee that no Tesla ever charges at Gridserve as Tesla Superchargers are everywhere. That’s simply nonsensical.

Please check your calculations for mini cooper. The short fall is 12.8%, not 18 as your table.

A test including both highway efficency and charging would be great! Range by it self is interesting but only half the story!

The Minis shortfall looks too high - should only be 13% (well, 12.8%)

Financially Renault Scenic Won 😳 It's £ 8,000 Less and you loose around 10 miles compared with the Polestar 2 . I mean is a Extra 10 miles range Realy Worth 8k 🤷 you decide

The only test you need is…. can you travel until your next food and/or bathroom break. Can you get enough charge in during that food and/or bathroom break to see you through to the next one. And repeat until you reach your destination. I don’t understand why people are obsessed with range when they should be looking at “does it fit in with my needs”

The Kona had the wrong wheels, top spec can have the smaller wheels on the Advance and gives an extra 37 miles official range. So if you want max range you need the smaller wheels.

The ONLY test you need is..... Will it go over 2 hours at motorway speed? Which is yes to almost every EV. As at just over 2 hours the cast majority of people stop for a break. I know the haters will tell me they do 600+ miles without stopping, but the RAC study showed 99% of domestic motoway trips stop somewhere between 2-3 hours of driving. Most EV's will do 20-80% in 30mins. The same RAC report said the average stop time was 30mins. Personally unless I'm eating my stops are 15mins, which 3/4 of time is enough to get me range for the next leg of the trip.

The video does not highlight the different battery sizes. Not surprising that the larger battery cars go further!!

Trying to understand the point of this. M/kw average is the key metric. If they are doing this for entertainment purposes then maybe ok. Kinda of a meh video. I guess people need to work.

Never see vids of driving ICE cars till they run out of fuel for some reason. It would be relevant if there wasn't a charging network but there is so these tests are completely irrelevant. Only serve to titillate the anti EV crowd and infuriate EV owners that know the truth. The vast majority of journeys in the UK by all types of car owners is under 35 miles, the only time range matters is if travelling 200 miles plus in which case both EV and ICE cars will usually have to stop for toilet break / food and regularly fill up / charge (honestly how many ICE owners fill their car up and then drive until their fuel warning light comes on?). Recent drive round scotland in EV and every time we stopped for food we plugged in had 20 mins for food etc and came back to a 90%+ charged car, no range issues whatsoever.

Telsa is still the efficiency king, although the lack of indicator and light stalks is unforgivable. The Audi Q6 is the most disappointing, no more efficient than the older Q4 or Q8 even though it's built on a new 800v PPE platform, and even less legroom for rear passengers than the smaller Q4. The German automakers should be focused more on efficiency than fancy lights.

Almost everyone I know who charges at home uses a much cheaper overnight tariff - I think you should quote the 7p per KW/h costs in future.

Manufacturers should start to put more effort into efficiency of EVs

if the model S has lost 13% of its capacity does it use 13% less electricity to charge to full? in which case did you reduce the usable capacity by 13% when calculating the efficiency?

The costs used in the comparisons are SO not close to actual reality. It’s like saying that everyone has the potential to have high petrol costs because they only ever fill up exclusively at motorways petrol stations. DOES. NOT. HAPPEN! Meanwhile back IN THE REAL WORLD- Everyone who CAN charge it home does. The majority who do make sure they’re on a tariff to get the cost as low as possible. The ones who rely on the public networks, do the same. They seek out to use the easiest and cheapest they can. Be that by subscription, workplace charging, cheap supermarkets. Motorway charging is only a last resort and even at that regular users will have discounted options such as using the open to all superchargers, subscription pricing and off peak / special rates.

Interesting there is no Tesla Model Y LR in the test, although is the most sold EV. As an advice : post the capacity of the battery in your table.

I enjoyed the video. Out of spec motoring tested the refreshed model 3 long range to be 372. They ran 370 miles at 70 mph and squeaked out 2 more miles at a lower speed. Its actual range exceeded the official range. Negative range shortfall. Even better the added range is all from efficiency as Tesla did not increase the size of the battery pack. I would liked to have see battery size in the table. Again thanks.

Great test, with everything up front. Thank you.

Although interesting rather than absolute range the most useful statistic presented was efficiency. Be more useful test to take the cars from 100% down to say 10% ( about the limit most EV drivers would take it down to) and then charge back up to 80%, so a comparison of real world driving and the time it takes to fill back up on a typical journey.

Good to see the focus on efficiency as well as costs, range. The other aspect of efficiency is that it means that you're less reliant on high powered chargers that can charge above 200kW to replenish miles at a reasonable rate, a 50kW or 100kW charger can be perfectly useful.

I think it was an impressive result for the Renault. The Scenic is a very good family car that is far cheaper than the Audi, with great space, great looks and a great range.

Most people will be looking at m/kWh and or against purchase price. Those with deeper pockets will have less concern about range.

This is one of the reasons why the Audi range devalue like crazy. They start as very expensive and they are very inefficient and expensive to run.

Can’t see the point in driving until the battery is exhausted. You wouldn’t drive any car knowing you would run out of fuel. Most EV drivers drive their car the distance they are comfortable with. Only serves the anti EV brigade with another excuse.

Excellent and very useful review. Thank you!

The Scenic keeps knocking it out of the park as a package.

The Kona and Tesla model 3 used 19 inch weels😢. If it used the standard 17 and 18 inch weeks they would have 🏆 🥇. When What Car test cars they should use the most efficient weels that are standard on all cars recommended by the manufacturers or this test is a joke...They didn't 😢

The shortfall figure for Mini Cooper should be 12.8% not 18%. Really enjoy this video. Thank you.

Can you also do comparison range between Kia ev9 and Volvo ex90 please I can’t decide on which has the better range

Amazing video, i can only imagine how much work it took to make.

Overall, good results, but a Highway-only, 80mph test, would be more interesting

please put kwh/100km for the rest of the world

Why oh why the obsession with range?

Thank you! Is it possible to drive one of these cars stricktly in city, to compare consumption

I appreciate how Hyundai/Kia provide accurate range within 10% Although where’s that BYD Seal you kept showing???

People travel across europe for many years no worry about range . Now in 2024 we have cars driving range test . Even VW golf diesel in 199x can drive 2x far and 10x less refill time. What a stupid invention in modern era. (EV) Faster acceleration 0-100 for 5 sec with 30 min charge time .

The thing is, it doesn't matter how far any of these EV's go, because according to the sales figures, nobody wants one.

Where is the MG. Prices of these cars on test are far to expensive.

Amazing work on this test. But there is one thing I did not clearly understand. How did you find the usable battery size for this test? If you only based on the spec, that is almost never correct. This will vary depending a lot of parameters including load and degradation. Typical the best way to find usable capacity is to use the consumption from tripmeter and the distance from tripmeter. I assume the distance in this test is a real distance, and not from trip meter? (since that is typical wrong)

Now the polestar 4 is released it will be even better…..

Thanks for this boys!👍😘 One thing- can you please write all numbers in metric/km etc to? Its difficult as Swedes to understand miles/inch/feets..you got it😅🙏 If you buy the Mini SE with standard 16 inch wheels..how far will they go? Your car was with 18 inch and wider tyres..

*Model 3 is a shitty saloon car, who needs it in 2024? Scenic in second place - I'm impressed. Well done.*

Love these videos! Keep them up! 💪

For true accuracy you need to use an in car thermometer as the heating settings are not the same on all brands

For a properly level playing field all cars should be wearing the same tyres, one of the factors in efficiency on the road. When I changed the tyres on my LEAF to an 'A' for range tyre it made a .1Mkwh difference, not much but measurable over the next 30k miles.

That Polestar 2 is looking better and better which each review! £30K for a one year old, low mileage long range model makes it a bargain!

Why did you pick Tesla with less efficient wheels?

Thanks, very good. But would have been useful to see what actually happens when they die as thought you were going to show that from the intro… the shortfall is the thing that stands out for me and bmw got very close so why can’t others… it’s still totally unacceptable to give a range that can rarely be achieved. Thanks!

Fair play to the Model S, you could buy that and put a new battery in and it would be cheaper than the rest haha.

So Audi should be ashamed of themselves for doing 16% less miles than the official mileage given, but everything is perfect for the Model3 that did 255 miles while the company's official mileage is 318 and that's an error 19.7% and is the biggest inaccuracy in the whole project. Right; And thats how certain channels are building a leading profile on Musk's trash. This test also reminds me why I unfollowed this channel in the first place.

Difference between indicated and calculated efficiency for the Scenic and Polestar, please! (Especially the Scenic, we're considering that, but I was disappointed by the indicated efficiency when i tedder drove one). It would be even more useful if you measure this Difference on every car you test, and establishes whether there is a regular pattern of over- or under-reporting by the same amount for certain manufacturers, or whether the variation is random. When I try a car, I have only the trip computer to go on, and if there is considers variation, I could be drawing the wrong conclusions!

Mini's high efficiency makes it great for what it is intended for, surburban life. Do your 20 miles a day and charge back up overnight. Put aside how expensive it is to buy in the first place, and I doubt there is a car you could run cheaper for city life. Especially in places with emission zones.

“Impressive win for the Polestar 2” If you call 18% less range than advertised in pretty much perfect conditions impressive there’s something wrong with you…. I call it a con….

No room for one of the best selling and cheapest EVs in the UK. Why? All these other cars are expensive and out of the price range of a typical motorist.

These guys always do the worst comparison, Cars Should have the same or similar battery size to see which does the most miles. Tesla has one of the smallest batteries comparison to The Polestar

There is no Ioniq 5N, the benchmark for high performance EVs.

Was it normal for you to compare the ranges of Ice cars in the same manner? Were you comparing the efficiency and range of e.g a Golf Tdi against a Range Rover V8? This is irrelevant consumer advice.

Hello guys, for viewers outside UK, please present the statistics for range also in km and for efficiency also in kWh/100 km.

That Tesla S interior didn't hold that well for such an expensive car... Ok, 252.000miles is good and 9 years is something but it is very common for a car of that segment and price to look brand new inside after a lot more than what has done.

Explain - when manufacturers calculate WLTP are they including air conditioning and lights on? I know with our i3S the moment you start the air con the range can drop significantly. If I am right then your calculations and percentages are wrong?

Electric cars can go 200,000-300,000 miles. What matters is the traveling speed including charging.

Where was the Ioniq 5 or 6? They are some of the best EVs out there!

You should use 270 miles as the rated range for a 2015 Tesla Model S 90D when calculating range degradation. Not even my refreshed and redesigned 2019 "Raven" 100kWh Model S, with the Model 3 motor in the front, was rated over 340 miles. 🤨

16:35 Mini shortfall is wrong - 211 / 242 = 87.19% giving a 12.81% shortfall Unless I’m calculating that wrong.

Are they running out of ideas……what’s next we drive five cars till they are out of petrol because they will stop and leave you stranded. Only joking useful figures but do the range computers not adjust for driver style to be more accurate. I’m not a BMW fan really but that i5 looks fantastic. Tesla are probably still light years on range for the size of pack. The MINI is a bit disappointing they need more capacity so maybe the third gen for many giving this gen a miss. Renault seem to be smashing it and that bodes well for the new R5 coming out next year. But manufacturers drop those range fingers to be more realistic take 30-40 miles off them all and print that. No one and I repeat no one gets disappointed by getting more range that thought but instantly disappointed in th3 Car, the purchase and the brand when they think for example 300 miles range is what they will get and it’s closer to 240. New EV owners must be going into dealers asking is there a problem. Play the game a bit smarter. If the MINI SE With the sports pack did 250 miles real world, cost £28k it would be not on the drive but not for £43k split new. Second hand people is the way to go. Oh and maybe they should look into actually what people are paying at home in 🐙 home charging priced at 8p per kWh at night so you can half that £500 for 10k miles down to nearly £200…. .

Was the 250,000 Mike Tesla on its ORIGINAL battery though. If it had a battery replacement in that time, then its performance isn't as impressive.

OK all three of you did not discuss it this time?

Why on earth would you not give the costings for the cheap overnight EV tariff? Who on earth would charge at home without one? You are clearly EV haters!

Guys, the test is a bit meaningless because there wasn’t a level playing field. Sorry.

For efficiency, why the Kona and not the Ionic 6. Hyundai's most efficient

Are the smaller EVs comparatively more economical to run as they have less bulk to move about than the monster cars

Interesting as I have seen other tests of the Audi. It was efficient. Just goes to show how variable it can be in real life driving! But disappointing to see a new car perform so poorly.

Should calculate the tesla for supercharging as you would only use superchargers surley.

You can buy two Tesla with that Audi Q6 etron price which just got only 30 miles more and less efficient than Tesla.

Why are energy costs so hugely high in the UK?! It seems EV buyers are getting gouged. In Thailand off peak rates (overnight at home) are about 6p per kwh. DC fast charger rates are about 17p per kwh. Those rates are held consistent across the DC chargers (all brands) throughout the country. (appears government controlled) The initial purchase price for EVs particularly the Chinese offerings are substantially cheaper as well. This makes the justification for EV adoption much more compelling.

Probably worth pointing put if that old tesla has done 250k miles, then it means it has spent alot of time not being 100% or completely flat which are most damaging to the battery.

How DEAD were these cars after your testing? Did you scrap them afterward? Are fossil cars DEAD when they run out of fuel, or do they just quit? Despite my quibbling with the title, this was an interesting test and well produced video. Polestar's gain in efficiency with this updated model is impressive, and bodes well for future EVs in general. I also like that it is RWD now. No point in FWD anymore, without a heavy engine in front, IMO. Comparing the efficiency indicated on the cars instruments to measured efficiency was interesting. However, I wonder if What Car? actually measured the battery energy capacity of each of these cars, or just used the manufacturer's claimed net capacity when new. If the latter is true, that would explain the Model S result, and the kWh used to calculate the "measured" efficiency would be much higher than the actual kWh delivered by the battery in this test. Also, there is car-to-car differences in battery capacity when new, different age and mileage of the car's batteries, and differences in discharge rate between the manufacturer's capacity test and What Car's? test in this video.

Can you test the Ioniq 5 N?

So is the Model 3 total bargain or is the mini which is more expensive, with a worse quality than the last ten, a total rip off ?

Did you play spin the bottle with car picking?

This is a fake test, very controlled and not at all representative of real world driving

No Chinese cars? (apart from Polestar) ZEEKR 007 has a range of around 450 on a charge, and can add another 150 on a 5 minute charge. Plus, in China, you can pick one up for around £30,000

Electricity is too expensive in the UK.

It just shows that "official" figures are utter nonsense and misleading customers. If conditions were almost perfect why didn't a single car achieve it's stated range? Great test, proves that manufacturers continue to lie to us.

TLDR, just wait for electric car prices to crash and net yourself a bargain as there are so many unsold sitting at ports not even registered yet.

Still stupid prices, massive depreciation and all the charging hassle. Charging challenges with a flakey charging network and extortionate new prices coupled with runaway depreciation - that’s why they are not selling. Early adopters always pay big for early compromise.

please include KM's and watt hour per KM in the summary on screen :)

What we have learned is to buy 3 used Tesla s for 27k which would still be less than all these new shitboxes.

Mini shortfall was 13% not 18% according to my maths?

What’s the obsession with driving EVs until they “DIE” and leave you stranded at the roadside? Please start testing sports cars for luggage space and huge SUVs for fuel economy as well.

The obsession with range and overtly negative tone to EVs is a little over done now. I guess this is What Car’s style but it’s quite a boring watch. Not sure if it’s the format of presenters, but it feels old.

where's Byd?