How Good Are French Vegan Croissants? 

Been there, really good.

I have visited that bakery. It's really good.

@@lucioh1575which part of France is it in?

@@williamshanks8959which part of France is it in?

@@brandonplays702 123 Voltaire boulevard 11th arrondissement in Paris France

It’ll never replace the butter one. Animal product consumption in Europe is not the same as in the states.

Absolutely - it seems people really enjoy the vegan pastries, too!

@@cv5369 it is still morally wrong.

Its using vegetable oil how can you say its healthier??

Its using vegetable oil how can you say its healthier??

Haha, we imagine they were plunged into an existential crisis...!

It was!

they are on the same level as the rest of the western world. The "french paradox" is not real. But french people tend to have homemade and somewhat wholesome meals (instead of junk food). They don't snack much either.

​​@@TinaVegani was plantbased for multiple years with no medical problems, but after constant pressures from those who told me to eat salt for electrolytes and animal products i tried a high salt animalbased diet in 2020-2021 and got appendicitis, stomach rupture and heart attack from clots. James DiNicolantonio lied saying 15g NaCl a day is safe and suggested drinking saltwater (5g NaCl in 500ml water) and lied sugar is worse than salt. Joseph Everett (What I've Learned profile on RU-vid) lied 40g NaCl a day is safe. NaCl consumption increases risks of stomach cancer, irritations and ulcers, gastrointestinal perforations and ruptures, arrhythmias, congestive heart failure, cardiovascular disease, edema, kidney disease, neurological problems, thyroid issues, bone deformities, dehydration etc. whole foods contain adequate amounts of sodium and chlorine naturally, not required to vaporise seawater for seasalt or dig in saltmines for rock salt. retinol increases risks of fibrosis and is not recommended for pregnant women. carotenoids, lycopene are safer for vitamin A since the body adjusts and stops production when it is excessive. calciferol hardens soft tissues in organs, muscles, cartilage, ligaments, tendons and increases risks of arrhythmias, heart attack, kidney and liver disease, neurological damage etc. safer to produce it by exposure to sunlight, the body stops producing this hormone if it is excessive to avoid adverse effects. the human body can adjust how much iron from plants to assimilate, but with heme iron from animal products is unable to do that and excessive amounts might enter the bloodstream. i encountered vegans who were plantbased for multiple years and experimented doing a blood test annually at a medical clinic to verify their cobalamin levels while not using the supplement they had at home just in case and their results were normal each year. cobalamin B12 deficiency was rather a consequence of gastrointestinal problems preventing assimilation of nutrients or other illnesses, some pharmaceuticals (Metformin etc.) and other substances (excessive nitric oxide etc.) could interfere with it and cause deficiency. laboratories many times were not verifying how much B12 was in plants and were leaving that unverified, but only verified in animal products to put on label list. at USDA database on internet for some yellow kiwi was mentioned a B12 quantity similar to the proportion of B12 per calorie in eggs, but for most plant food products B12 content was unverified. phytomicrobiome is endospheric and epispheric, endophyte prokaryotic microorganisms exist in the interior vascular systems of plants, not only on external surface or on soil. reminded me of a study in which researchers verified quantities of bioavailable cobalamin B12 in wild springwater and found approximately 2 micrograms per liter and up to 4 micrograms in a portion of few ounces of whole grains. tap water probably has less B12 after passing through systems used to filter and purify it at stations where it is sanitise.d

No but they drink moderate amounts of wine more regularly….which can be heart healthy

i guess probably they should not told them it has no butter and allow them to try it, express their opinion. after telling them the word "vegan" they probably started hating it immediately by principle

they probably should avoided discussing about veganism with those people prior to showing the food, they automatically started thinking which smells and tastes like butter and chose that to avoid associating themselves with a product made with no butter

Good point!

Today I learned "not abusing animals'" is a dietary restriction.

@@DWFood Being vegan in Paris is really easy.

​@@lucioh1575notice how people treat humans, you think they would care how an animal feels? even animals are not as bad as people many times

Vegan butter, since it's not dairy, is often referred to as margarine.

@@kennethmaese4622 But that is not margarine, it's just vegetable shortening then, for it to be margarine there must be some presence of dairy products.

So you are not vegan

"important role in the environment" ?? you mean millions of cows releasing methane, eating tons of soy and drinking gallons of water every day, dumping their waste into rivers,lakes and seas because the animals are so many we don't know how to get rid of so much dung and destroying ecosystems? Of the habitable land on our planet, 50% is used for agriculture, and of that 50% land, 77% is used for livestock!... The soy you say we produce and destroy forests? 80% of global soybean crop is used to feed livestock, not us. So no matter how you look at it, animal agriculture is not sustainable and is actually causing huge enviromental issues. Not soy for vegans, not oils for vegans, but for the animals. 70 billion animals are reared for food every year... you can make the calculations yourself. How much does a cow eat? how much does it drink? how much a pig? 70 billion???... We are destroying ourselves.

Nope. 86% of global soy production is to FEED COWS. The rest is split between oil crops and human grade food. There’s no chemical “deodorizers” in soy milk. Vegetable oils are an umbrella term for most plant oils that aren’t olive or coconut. Coconut and palm do get refined to remove some flavors. That is the basis for many vegan butters (usually a blend). Difference between vegan butter and margarine is that margarine is (or used to be) hydrogenated. Vegan butter is not. Monoculture crops aren’t great, but food that most people eat are monocultures and again the majority of crops grown are to FEED ANIMALS. Also animals are monoculturally farmed too.

I think you're misguided

I probably think the same about you.

@@alphacause If you think it's okay to breed and kill and exploit animals for meat, dairy, eggs. But not okay to do the exact same thing to a group of humans. Then name what is true of the animals which if true of the humans would justify breeding/killing/exploiting the humans in the same way you say it's okay to do to animals. If you cannot name trait(s) which meet that criteria then to hold those 2 positions is logically inconsistent. That's the argument for veganism.

​@@DylanLenn 1. In addressing your challenge directly, animals have inferior cognition to that of human beings. They cannot produce mathematics, poetry, prose, music, architecture, or art. They are bereft of any substantial inventiveness and cannot deliberate morality or ethics. So while they are living beings, their value is limited to their physicality. So humans and animals differ so markedly that they don't deserve the same moral consideration. If one human being was as interchangeable in their contributions to this world as another human being, in the same way one farm hen is to another, or one domesticated pig is to another, then human life would be expendable. 2. Speaking of inconsistency, your logic shows the moral inconsistency in your line of reasoning. Veganism is not spared from the very moral conundrum you presented to me. If we posit that animals and humans have equal moral value, then ALL agriculture must stop, because ALL forms of agriculture kill animals. Your vegan diet is dependent on monocrop agriculture, which displaces billions of native species of animals. The pesticides and herbicides, that make the growing of crops en masse possible, kill many of the animals that would normally eat your precious quinoa, rice, kale or whatever plant based food you subsist on. The only difference is that the rats, mice, rabbits, moles, worms, insects and birds that your diet kills - which number in the billions - don't happen to be as cute or cuddly as the animals you claim to love, like the pig or the cow. In order to eat your "virtuous diet", you too make value judgments on which lives are deemed worthy and which lives are expendable.

@@alphacause 1. So if those humans had the intelligence of cows/chickens/pigs would it be okay to kill and eat them in the same context in which you think it's okay to kill and eat cows/chickens/pigs? If not then you just named arbitrary differences, not differences which meet the criteria. Re read what I said. 2. Nobody's claiming you can live without causing any amount of suffering or deaths by being vegan. There's a difference between extrinsic and intrinsic harm. Car accidents kill hundreds of thousands of people every year, yet we accept these accidental deaths and continue driving because it's a practical necessity. Same as with agriculture. So again if you cannot name what is true of animals which if true of humans would justify killing and eating humans, then you cannot claim it's okay to kill and eat animals but not humans because that would be a contradiction. It's really simple stuff.

But why?

@@tobiatic6148 But why question another's opinion. A no is a no. Simple as that.

Would you try one?