@@mergo5956Yeah probably. The 5f backdashes with 18f total duration are pretty goated. This is your Jack-O/Testament/HC. Perfect balance between speed and s. So they're great defensively while also being extremely difficult to react to like May/Millia backdash.
This has nothing to do with his kit, but a few friends of mine who are completely new to the series had me explain how his kit works and the conclusion they initially came to was that, since he sets up a mechanic that tacks on extra hits, he's similar to Bedman?. Long story short, they now sometimes call him ManMan.
@@VilArknights I'd argue that title is reserved for Testament, they also qualify for Bedman?-ness with Stain. The spot of BedWoman is already taken up by Delilah so... no idea what Jack-O could get. MinionMan? MinionMam since she's a lady? We'll let Freddy figure that one out.
Johnny main since his release. I think he's okay. He has very polarizing matchups. Some are absolutely brutal. His inability to dash block is borderline crippling in some matchups. That said, his offense is good enough to make work once he's in, even in the bad matchups for the most part. I think he'll always be held back by his inability to dash block. Likely around middle tier. If you're playing to win, as in trying to enter tournaments, I don't see a reason to pick Johnny over quite a few other characters. But he's extremely fun and I love the character so I'm sticking with him.
When I first played Johnny in +R I thought you had to hit the coin with mist finer to get the upgraded mist finer glad to see that was an idea that the devs at arc sys had
Johnny can also confirm into full combos from punch Normals with a card and mist finer. So he probably has good staggers that he can convert off of, he is also just an insane conversion character.
Air card and command jump is pretty fun to use. Definitely not able to dash block makes me nervous. I do think Johnny is in a fairly good place, he has a lot of unique movement.
johnny’s meter build feels dependent on conditioning. if your opponent respects a card toss into something or especially a mist finer cancel (gone but not forgotten🕊), it builds a lot of meter. and usually when i’m far away from my opponent (maybe post burst) a couple mist cancels grants a nice chunk of tension
His highest damage (that I know of) combo starters, meaning you can get 50% without meter: Close S, 2HS, 6HS needs a card setup but it’s good damage if you can land it, and finally mist finer, with a card of course.
As a new player Johnny has quickly entered the very long list of "characters I'll main once I get a good grasp on the game" and I went back to going unga bunga with Ky afterwards
I'm surprised you didn't mention another way where characters can be "burst safe". And it with really potent moves that force you into a longer hitstun but they're still able to freely move and potentially K ir S mistfiner with a card or ram swords in corner are pretty good examples. You can technically burst them there but since they have a lot of hitstun to work with its a bad idea as they don't have to immediately act if they want a combo.
@@natman2939 sorry I'm saying characters that have way still actively attack you while maintaining free movement are inherently more burst safe as they can just hold back while either waiting or before their next input to automatically block burst whilst not giving up a combo opportunity. For example Johnny's mist finer follow up when hitting a card on his P or K versions are very potent launchers so near the corner Johnny players hold down back to automatically bait burst while waiting for you to fall to follow up with c.S or 5K. Same with ram players, a lot of her corner routes launch 236S or 236HSearly in the combo during this time the swords are causing a wallbounce and then they explode keeping you in hitstun during this time Ram can move freely including by holding down back to automatically bait burst while she waits to follow up.
His charge ibagree feels slower in strive maybe it's because he had the cards now amd not theblinited coin resource he had in xrd to start a lot of his mixup or maybe I'm just imagining it and he still builds meter really quickly
The Axl matchup is impossible if: 1.- The axl player is good or knows what he's doing and 2.- you dont know how to play against him..... literally cannot touch him, mist finer K is always 1 pixel away from hitting, axl is technically out zoning johnny and without the DASH BLOCK ITS EVEN WORSE
In my experience (peak floor 8 player so grain of salt recommended) if you have meter then you can get some really unconventional positioning and hit S mist finers
One thing I've noticed is that my opponents dont pay attention to the cards like they should. Soon as a card hits the ground, they forget about it. Trust me....i remind them 🤭
I have no experience with older versions of Johnny as Strive is my first Guilty Gear. In my experience he has incredible potential but falls flat incredibly quickly in the hands of a gorilla player like me. It really might just be me but I swear he gets out played, ranged and sped by the weirdest match ups, but like said I'm still basically learning him after 1.5 months
How long until the next character? How often (how many months apart) do they tend to release. I want Johnny but I hate to buy the season pass when only 1 character is out and the others are not even announced
To answer your question, end of November is next release so expect first or second week of November for a trailer, 3rd could be anywhere between February or march, and last will likely be in May again. You’re gonna have to base it off of the second character or just kinda buy it if you are the type to play everyone
@@Vexce11en1 thanks. I am definitely the type that likes to play everyone. I just want to make sure I mesh well with the online of the game overall before I sink $75 for DLC
yeah for sure find a main on the main roster before anything, give it a good 20/30 hours of online with whoever you're playing before you really consider getting ALL the dlc. That's a decent amount of time to say you'll stay into the game. Also look up each of the character guides for each season and make sure you jive with them before grabbing a season.@@natman2939
6P negates many of Johnny’s offensive options. Not to mention low profile feels bad for him to deal with as most moves whiff *cough cough* crouching Faust
something that i want to have studied is the interaction with clash and trades on mist finer when card procs as it stands right now, i'm pretty sure card procs on mist finer regardless of what state johnny is in at the time of activation which means johnny can just win trade with stuff when card is active and in certain circumstances trading puts him in an even better position than he would be if the opponent got hit normally and if this is true to the degree that i suspect it might be, it's going to make balancing the character a nightmare to do and he's already a very lopsided character with his kit in its current state
@@hlarjay7503 Historically, Johnny has always had good trade situations from leveled up mist finer. Imagine this: You are playing Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2 and trade with level 3 K mist finer just past midscreen - Johnny proceeds to dash 3 times to the corner, whiffs cS by accident, walks forward for 30 frames, you're still wallstuck, and he combos you for 75% of your health and sets up level 3 again, an unblockable, or zweihander yrc into a 50/50. Could always be a lot worse lol. The trade situation for Johnny in Strive seems pretty tame to me honestly, and lots of other characters can set up great trades that lead to good situations and damage.
@@hlarjay7503 idk my homie plays Bridget and does rolling cancels into half screen lows that beat the 6p call out constantly. It's not like he's the only one with a set up tool that beats 6p when it "shouldn't". It's a little frustrating to deal with but he's certainly not the only character with access to that kind of option
@@HellecticMojo it's very frustrating. There aren't a lot of characters I fight that make me feel like I can't play. I look forward to better players figuring out how to deal with him cause I sure as hell don't know XD
Goldlewis main, and we suffer together. It absolutely socks to take one whiff punish from 3/4 screen and then get carried to to corner from anywhere where it feels like the game is over with card setups and mix.
I wish Johnny's reward on block after card was different than guard break... Gold Lewis can just pull up and pretty much do the same with no two steps.
@@thekeening3778 Just something different than guard break. Reward can still be plus double digits. It's just lack luster and not as creative as I thought it would be imo.
Cause his nickname is Lord Cap. He's very intelligent and knowledgeable but he's been known to downplay and overhype certain characters he likes or dislikes.
I just wish theyd add a character whos win condition isnt "be plus and make them guess randomly at close range". So far youve got axl (boring) testament (simple) and HC who is pain
Bro nobody thinks red wild assault is the best what are you talking about, even arc sys themselves know white is blatantly and purposefully the best wild assault, give any character without white wild assault white wild assault and they will easily be a tier
politely, this is cap, red is instant (can't react on hit so you can't burst), and ups conversion ability, giving chars who have no business converting access to positive for free, and then you get the meter back White is ANNOYING for sure, but it isn't as good as red
His big normals are disjointed only at very tip range, mist is punishable unless you have card out or at tip range. No consistent way to deal with projectiles, ensenga only frame traps/block string off of level 4 normals so 6h 6k and 2h. Vault is at perfect timing -1 on block and out of throw range, making it potentially safe but it's not his turn anymore. His highest damage combos are extremely difficult. He is strong but he's not brain dead broken. Learn the matchup, or play a zoner.
