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How Good is The Original 35 GT-R 15 Years On? Cars from Japan reviews 2008 R35 GT-R 

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In this episode of Cars from Japan Reviews, presented by ‪@carsfromjapan4601‬, we drive a 2008 R35 GT-R. This one has a late model front end, but underneath is a 16 year old car. How does it stack up to today's performance cars? How has the might Godzilla aged? Let's find out.
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@jigglerish
@jigglerish 5 месяцев назад
Yes please do a R35 on the channel. Start with how to maintain it, then fixing common problems, then small bang for buck mods. Then suspension and brakes, then power
@cjsi2448
@cjsi2448 5 месяцев назад
15 years already is absurd to think about. How time flies, still a great car
@mitchelltownes6251
@mitchelltownes6251 5 месяцев назад
It sucks
@tommykaira8775
@tommykaira8775 5 месяцев назад
Goes to show we get crap cars now after the GTR
@TheProGamingmedia
@TheProGamingmedia 5 месяцев назад
I bought my 2009 GTR in 2019. It’s been hands down the best car purchase I’ve ever made. It’ll be worth the pick up.
@perfectdiversion
@perfectdiversion 5 месяцев назад
If Nissan was like Nissan from the late 80s to 2000 we would be up to the R38 by now
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 5 месяцев назад
Laws changed a lot also... making new models isn't like the 80s , you could do basically anything those years
@brettro8210
@brettro8210 5 месяцев назад
cost of tooling and changing in manufacturing and corporate profits have had a lot to do with it.
@Druze_Tito
@Druze_Tito 4 месяца назад
It got cursed by the brand with a logo resembling a vagina.
@user-rf3yv2ez4u
@user-rf3yv2ez4u 3 месяца назад
Yeah and nothing special anymore..its a problem with automotive industry this day, new model after 2-3 years
@John15293
@John15293 2 месяца назад
@@user-rf3yv2ez4u more like facelift after 5.. new model after 10+ lol
@JBens
@JBens 5 месяцев назад
I got a lotta love for the early 35s - even with the OG front and rear ends. Timeless shape.
@daniel-it2lw
@daniel-it2lw 5 месяцев назад
they really took a risk with the design but it has aged pretty well
@markkendall6854
@markkendall6854 5 месяцев назад
Really good to hear your positive thoughts on the GT-R. Owned my 2010 plate for over 10 years now, and still worth more than I paid for it too. 600hp is enough for my needs. Excited to see your forthcoming R35 journey 👍
@JohnPedder
@JohnPedder 4 месяца назад
tbh I’ve never heard any negative feedback about the 2008 car lol makes you wonder who’s saying it, especially when no one in the car community says a bad thing bout the older GTRs
@MotorsportMonkey
@MotorsportMonkey 5 месяцев назад
Wow thanks Andrew, this made me feel old... But great video as usual.
@EatMyPropwash
@EatMyPropwash 5 месяцев назад
For anyone going to GT-R Festival at the Texas Motorplex…. Do not speed on I-35W or any road around there. I live 5min north and it’s patrolled very heavily 24/7/365. You want to street race, go out west, or northwest about 15mi.
@keckchan7156
@keckchan7156 4 месяца назад
What days is that? Thanks
@whitejodeci8926
@whitejodeci8926 4 месяца назад
Just go to addison/farmers branch on that tollway. Damn near our autobahn
@Druze_Tito
@Druze_Tito 4 месяца назад
God bless you, God bless America 🙏
@naiahhaian
@naiahhaian 5 месяцев назад
Hell yeah!! Excited to see what you do with a r35 GTR
@zedaye9552
@zedaye9552 3 месяца назад
I'm also hoping to get into one by the end of 2024. Can't wait to see where it goes mate. Looking forward to it
@Formula1-Dave
@Formula1-Dave 5 месяцев назад
I'm speechless. Absolute hit of a car. A classic already
@user-pf5mf6kc5o
@user-pf5mf6kc5o 5 месяцев назад
This is awesome can't wait for you to get one. Long time coming! Way better than the 400
@rjlane6827
@rjlane6827 5 месяцев назад
I love my 08 R35, the clunks/ noises and general feel of the car make it more authentic and raw. I agree I really don’t think you can get anything near as fun for the money, it’s in its own league. As for reliability, I have never had an issue with mine and have owned for 3 years, it’s serviced and looked after, that’s all that matter. JustJap are the go for everything R35 🤙🏽
@ZombiEDDudE
@ZombiEDDudE 5 месяцев назад
Whats servicing costs like for a car like this?
@ebinbarrs9538
@ebinbarrs9538 5 месяцев назад
I think it just depends how aggressive you are as a driver. I’ve seen them last forever. But I also have a close friend that’s built 3 transmissions now because he drives it like he stole it. I do the same, reasons why I bought a dodge viper instead. I knew I was gonna flog on the car all the time and I want zero issues.
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 5 месяцев назад
​@@ebinbarrs9538 Wich year ? Basically the viper is ultra reliable?
@doolza5093
@doolza5093 4 месяца назад
I'll be getting mine this year. Super hyped.
@brainiac006
@brainiac006 2 месяца назад
Lets go🔥
@kennelizigadogspets1704
@kennelizigadogspets1704 11 дней назад
Owned 1 for 9 years best car I’ve owned
@michaelb5330
@michaelb5330 5 месяцев назад
When you get your 35 It might be fun to pick up the cheapest one on the market? And then just do the most budget mods slowly just to demonstrate like you have with your 32 To bring it up progressively After all you have done and driven so many 1000++ hp cars Would be quite an exercise to go down the budget rabbit hole Either way what ever you do it will end up being one of the best GTR s around given how much pride enthusiasm and passion you put in to every car you build or get involved with Cheers
@shonyhawks2342
@shonyhawks2342 5 месяцев назад
Yes! Looking forward to it.
@bigcus8176
@bigcus8176 5 месяцев назад
Would be super keen to see you get an early one and see a build up with gradual upgrades like you usually do. 🔥
@ozJman86
@ozJman86 5 месяцев назад
Really looking forward to the R35 project! A bucket list car for most JDM fans in their 30s and 40s!
@twistedbdo5755
@twistedbdo5755 5 месяцев назад
Since much hasnt changed, it makes the aftermarket platform so good, probably one of the best if not the best platform right now in terms of options. Love it
@balancemode4112
@balancemode4112 5 месяцев назад
my dream car since 2008 this tell you how good it is
@zeebass2690
@zeebass2690 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the informative review. I have heard there are some mechanical updates that should be done to the driveline for reliability?.. on older models
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
This one didn’t have any. It’s if you increase power too much you have to.
@markc1456
@markc1456 5 месяцев назад
top video Andrew
@teabaggins3517
@teabaggins3517 4 месяца назад
I live in Japan and I had an 08 Premium FBO for 7 years and I put 140,000km on it. It was a great car.. So good that I sold it at the same price I bought it and got a 2017 GT-R Premium Gunmetal with The Rakuda Tan (orange interior). I put 30,000 km on it and I had zero repairs so far. I have a Cayenne daily and besides cayenne being quiet I can't say that the suspension is much more comfortable than GT-R.. All people that complain about it being stiff are probably old people with back issues and hemorrhoids. I am itching to get a turbo S, but I like to drive with my kids in the back and do long road trips so there's no other car that can replace it when it comes to practicality, reliability and wow factor..
@R32BIGBOYPANTS
@R32BIGBOYPANTS 5 месяцев назад
I have a “very” high mileage 09 gtr at 110xxx miles. My car is for sure a drivers car. Alot of complaints people have about the cba are true for sure. However, if you dont spend the money on fixing it or upgrading it, it will always be a complaint. I think andrew is the perfect owner for an 09. Some one who will take the time and money to upgrade and refine the car. I can say we look forward to your new addition!
@rmp5s
@rmp5s Месяц назад
I have a 2016 that's only at 800 wheel ("only") and I love the hell out of it. GREAT cars with basically UNLIMITED potential.
@atomicgoofball
@atomicgoofball 5 месяцев назад
R35 GTRs still going strong, timeless car. Love my CBA!
@seng6297
@seng6297 5 месяцев назад
i have a 2020 50th anniversary white with 8k miles. stock and keeping it that way. perfect the way it is
@Orangejuicezzz
@Orangejuicezzz 4 месяца назад
YEAHHHHH R35 project carr
@SimPhalla-wb7xj
@SimPhalla-wb7xj 4 месяца назад
I was wondering i,m into the 350z any video or information product and were is the best performance garage to take your 350z to get your car tuned and worked on
@goz7569
@goz7569 4 месяца назад
Mad review
@timholubowitch9097
@timholubowitch9097 5 месяцев назад
one of the older models is on my list also just for a fun daily. if i remember right. dustin williams. the dude that has a 32 33 34 and 35. his has a front mount and bolt ons on e85. and it made over 700whp.
@randomthing4639
@randomthing4639 5 месяцев назад
yes we want motive dvd build this old chasis...
@ralphpeiris5996
@ralphpeiris5996 5 месяцев назад
Hey I have a 2012 Nissan GT-R and I love the car!! As time has gone by, it still looks awesome. Get one and then we’ll talk otherwise you don’t know.
@Drake5153
@Drake5153 5 месяцев назад
Here before i watch the video, of course the R35 is still good lol and it has SO MUCH aftermarket, if it doesnt quite tickle your fancy you can always mod it
@HardstylePete
@HardstylePete 5 месяцев назад
Zf8 speed swap would be epic for this. I wonder if it's possible.
@chuanR35
@chuanR35 4 месяца назад
Damn 15 yrs. Mine is 10 yrs old now😢 gotta get them 2017 bumpers
@jamesm6341
@jamesm6341 5 месяцев назад
Still look great
@elitecol69
@elitecol69 5 месяцев назад
What happened to the green wrapped r34 with vg35 engine you did?
@FunTimeStudios82
@FunTimeStudios82 5 месяцев назад
Driven the CBA and driven the new one and the CBA has a better sports car feel to it, especially with the steering.
@NicsCarChannel
@NicsCarChannel 4 месяца назад
Damn, I've been looking at these, I really want a 2012 but. Had a few upgrades to it. All I see are 2008-2010 ones for sale... Might have to just get one of these first gen's and do it up instead
@Invaders757
@Invaders757 4 месяца назад
Damn i’d like to see a 35 project, but don’t turn it into a drag car. Twisty road setup is so much more interesting
@louiienation8497
@louiienation8497 Месяц назад
The Vr38 is the holy grail 🤌🏻
@JPD617
@JPD617 5 месяцев назад
I think the timing and price is right!
@theunkownmr.562
@theunkownmr.562 4 месяца назад
The VR38 is a big V6. Stroke it to a 4.4, and it's just huge.
@johnny_gtr
@johnny_gtr 5 месяцев назад
I'm on my second GTR. Can't ever see myself without one. 2x R35 GTRs now and I still have the R34 GTR. And unpopular opinion time - the 2017 GTR is better in every way. But they're both still huge fun.
@DukeNuggets69
@DukeNuggets69 5 месяцев назад
Wondering because afaik it's the issue of all GTRs, how do the stock gearboxes hold out ? I know it's a big no no to use the launch control, but i've Heard they blow up with normal use
@johnny_gtr
@johnny_gtr 5 месяцев назад
@@DukeNuggets69 the early JDM cars had some issues with circlips but they were addressed very quickly. Anything from late 08 onwards is fine. My 2010 car was pushing 675bhp and 630lbft for 60,000 miles without issue. My current car is 780bhp and 645lb/fr without issue for 45,000 miles. Keep the gearbox under 700lb/ft and you’re good- keep the stock rods under 650lbft and you’re also good. Both cars have done lots of track time too.
@davothegreat9990
@davothegreat9990 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I've always been told with the r35s anything above fbo e85 will need motor built.
@shizukesajdm
@shizukesajdm 4 месяца назад
Would be awesome to see an R35 project on the channel! Love this channel, it's so incredibly underrated!
@grantpiper6358
@grantpiper6358 5 месяцев назад
try a Stelvio Quad on a country road.....or turning in tight spaces - not so plush either.
@supers0nic77
@supers0nic77 5 месяцев назад
Especially that fully Automatic transmission.just smash the throttle and that's it!
@leeattwood2783
@leeattwood2783 4 месяца назад
Does better car reviews than the guys who do car reviews.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 4 месяца назад
Cheers.
@donnybrooks13
@donnybrooks13 5 месяцев назад
R32/R33 or R35 for this money, i am leaning towards the R35 now.
@jizchimp
@jizchimp 4 месяца назад
What’s amazing about the car is normal street driving it feels planted but you can feel the weight in the turns and braking but when you get them on a track it has a very different handling characteristics. It turns and brakes like a car with much less weight. That being said I still prefer my evo mr when it comes to handling, for a car that’s nearing 20yrs old there still isn’t a car that handles like an evo.
@brainiac006
@brainiac006 2 месяца назад
Should I pull the trigger on a base r35 2008 or a merc c63 507 edition? Around the same budget, cant decide😅
@BBqSmokeySalmon
@BBqSmokeySalmon 6 дней назад
Have you decided which one to get yet? Im interested to know :D
@antilagboostaddiction8322
@antilagboostaddiction8322 5 месяцев назад
Definitely wont be easy may not be possible but with all the money spent on the r35 platform im surprised no one has tube chassis a r35 and throwing in a r32 transfer case so they can keep the awd and get rid of that GR6 DCT.
@lostmind5683
@lostmind5683 5 месяцев назад
Could not agree with the video more. Price to performance ratio, nothing out there even comes close to an older model GTR.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 5 месяцев назад
They could sell R35 GTRs in the next 10 years and it will still be relevant. The aftermarket is quite advanced for this car, it's not that hard to get reliable 700+hp from them.
@davothegreat9990
@davothegreat9990 3 месяца назад
700hp would be the at the limit until built motor.
@koolracerguy
@koolracerguy 5 месяцев назад
Would this become the 70 series of performance cars?
@sc2320
@sc2320 5 месяцев назад
she still looks fresh kidd 🔥💯💪🏻
@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og
@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og 5 месяцев назад
I like to say the r35 is a classic car you still can buy new.
@badabing6275
@badabing6275 4 месяца назад
Didn’t you say in an old video that old R35’s are very expensive to own??
@rabidsminions2079
@rabidsminions2079 5 месяцев назад
R35 is the same age as the FPV F6 FG.
@madbikes
@madbikes 5 месяцев назад
Launch Control was not a good idea when R35 came out because the engagement was as hard as a neutral drop. One of the model years, Nissan updated the launch control to put less strain on the transmission that looks more like most cars that has one.
@spicyF1
@spicyF1 5 месяцев назад
wheel hop was the issue
@5IMON5AY5
@5IMON5AY5 5 месяцев назад
Nissan was ahead of its time in the early 2000’s
@lukecollins7965
@lukecollins7965 5 месяцев назад
Would love to afford one. 😅
@weduhpeople8504
@weduhpeople8504 5 месяцев назад
I know one thing that has changed and is an important improvement. It’s the undated safety features. More airbags, seam welding, undated airbag technology, better safety technology in other areas.
@SupernaturalPowerz
@SupernaturalPowerz 5 месяцев назад
So it's a limousine not a race car.. They should've named it a Nissan LIMO instead of Nissan GTR...
@JDArcher
@JDArcher 2 месяца назад
I daily drive my R35 GTR
@wezkerlim
@wezkerlim 4 месяца назад
would be cool to do a project to swap the r35 interior into a r34 lol
@LCNismo
@LCNismo 5 месяцев назад
As a person how has owned a new 08(still have) new 12 and used 18 the slight difference isn’t that major. You’re right, it’s a sport car and person that complain about the drivability, they’re idiots. I’m thinking about getting the 2024 but I don’t know just yet.
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 5 месяцев назад
Keep it ultra responsive and a road car.
@MrIrish1
@MrIrish1 5 месяцев назад
I want a GTR too. Plenty under 100k in Australia.
@oliverforsyth3411
@oliverforsyth3411 5 месяцев назад
hopefully around 60k soon!
@StickyBaldieAdrian
@StickyBaldieAdrian 5 месяцев назад
GR Yaris 2024 vs 2008 GTR? Not talking performance, I would say the Yaris is a better daily option.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
We wouldn’t
@valiantthor_
@valiantthor_ 5 месяцев назад
Nissan is nearly at the point of Mitsubishi these days, The Z was a positive step mostly but other than that they're on the ropes.
@Dcj01
@Dcj01 4 месяца назад
370z nismo for life
@swisscourthustle
@swisscourthustle 5 месяцев назад
RS3 would be a serious competitor for similar money.
@peterbiviano747
@peterbiviano747 5 месяцев назад
Had test drive the other day in 1 sure mite go the same sound was horrendous need $10.000 make it sound ok then warranty is shot not Merrion all ecu are are locked 21 model up
@FunTimeStudios82
@FunTimeStudios82 5 месяцев назад
But the RS3 looks like a grandma car and the GT-R looks exotic.
@swisscourthustle
@swisscourthustle 5 месяцев назад
@@FunTimeStudios82 and the RS3 sounds exotic, while the GTR sounds like a 370Z. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@FunTimeStudios82
@FunTimeStudios82 5 месяцев назад
@@swisscourthustle a stock R35 sounds like a vacuum cleaner and it could sound like a race car with an aftermarket exhaust.
@888berg
@888berg 4 месяца назад
*You were asking about alternatives for the money, I've owned a few Skylines R33 and R32 GTR.. all heavily modified. I know the GTR crew will get mad, but I purchased a Tesla Model 3 Performance and couldn't be happier.. I know its not JDM... but no other ICE has 100% torque (read: FULL boost) at any RPM, great content as usual Andrew, cheers :)*
@nissan2002
@nissan2002 5 месяцев назад
I think for a while now you have been pushing the RB platform because it's popularity in Australia....with USA GTR Festival starting now its perfect time to push the R35 platform to please the yanks
@shivgungaming6600
@shivgungaming6600 5 месяцев назад
I had my R33 gtr stolen a few years back was contemplating buying another than decided to get a 08 GTR best move ever.
@keepcarsfun
@keepcarsfun 4 месяца назад
How to convince your mrs you need an r35
@islami658
@islami658 28 дней назад
You don’t
@wasabinator
@wasabinator 5 месяцев назад
"doesn't feel like a chat old japanese car" because it isn't cheap nor really that old :D
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
Many think 16 years old is an old car that isnt het a classic.
@txl420
@txl420 4 месяца назад
The panel gap on the front bumper is awful
@simonstillborn4951
@simonstillborn4951 5 месяцев назад
Motive video targa rally R35 GTR ? ↙️
@wudntulike2no32
@wudntulike2no32 5 месяцев назад
Even the newest Tesla Plaid runs an almost the same time as a 2009 does around the Nürburgring. These cars were truly impressive.
@Grimgrak1
@Grimgrak1 4 месяца назад
It's as good as the transmission design in 2009 (jerky grabby) with no updates while the rest of the world has moved on.
@dschannel5273
@dschannel5273 2 месяца назад
Pretty sad that a XiaoMi SU7 will beat this car at 1/4 of the price with bigger interior/technology and numbers.
@DkingE39
@DkingE39 4 месяца назад
Lol its a nissan couldn't give alot a problems... Not sure if there is alternative transmission other than Shep
@ejm3381
@ejm3381 5 месяцев назад
Finish Project NO SECRETS! before getting a new project car
@sammysafeways8773
@sammysafeways8773 5 месяцев назад
buy mine andrew
@sungkim742
@sungkim742 4 месяца назад
The Nissan is milking this generation to the last drop. The only complaint I have is the lack of a seventh gear, unrefined transmission, and rough ride.
@badabing6275
@badabing6275 4 месяца назад
“Doesn’t feel old like an Evo” 😅
@simmosideways
@simmosideways 5 месяцев назад
I've always wanted one but they are a supercar in australia and insurance is insanely high
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
Our R32 GT-R is insured for triple a stock 2008 R35
@qwertyboi32
@qwertyboi32 4 месяца назад
Yeah its old its outdated, its once highly touted dual clutch tranny is now slow but it is still a supercar killer at the end of the day.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 4 месяца назад
DCT didn’t feel slow driving it.
@vibraniumsharkz6427
@vibraniumsharkz6427 5 месяцев назад
😢 got here late
@BNR_248
@BNR_248 5 месяцев назад
R35 is a great platform, though i almost wish Nissan took some bigger leaps, i.e. a 7 speed DCT, shorter ratios - higher rpm limit, get it back to that Porsche level performance.
@michaelexeter4465
@michaelexeter4465 5 месяцев назад
For me I don’t like the sound of them. I love the car but just love a screaming rb26 more.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately many great cars sound average.
@JohnPedder
@JohnPedder 4 месяца назад
Stock lol except for the downpipe he mentioned and exhaust. Over 3K depending. Then there’s the 20K bodykit upgrade, along with wing and carbon fibre 😅 tune. If anyone can afford a car that’s over 100K and just survive, then I’d highly recommend a better car than this. The 2012 to 2017 GTR are overpriced in Australia. People in the car community are trying to hike up the prices of JDM cars. Don’t fall for this
@brainiac006
@brainiac006 2 месяца назад
Most cars that are close to this price will not hold value for 5 more years. All the gtr 32,33,34,35 hold their value pretty well. Yes for the money you can get a better car, but few years down the line the other car will be worth way less than a gtr and that is proven for decades now
@JohnPedder
@JohnPedder 2 месяца назад
@@brainiac006 a collector doesn’t care about the price, but about low KMs and condition of the car, plus what the mods are / aren’t. My comment was to the guy that can afford a 100K car and just survive. If you want an expensive car that’s versatile and holds value? Buy a landcruiser. You’ll be able to drive it, won’t be scared of everyone else on the road (like every other GTR owner) and will be able to sell it for a motser.
@anbu999
@anbu999 5 месяцев назад
Do consider 997 turbo. Almost same year.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
No where near same price in Australia Plus we run GT-R Festival
@ronwilliams621
@ronwilliams621 4 месяца назад
Most of these comments are ridiculous. Porsche 911 has been around for over 70 years, now that's a really 'old ass' car.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 4 месяца назад
GT-R has been around for over 50, but different chassis. Just like Porsche 911 has had multiple different chassis. When R35 came out there 997 chassis was out. Now they have gone to 991 then 992 since.
@NBALEGENDZS
@NBALEGENDZS 5 месяцев назад
The maintenance is why I stay away from these, yeah sure nice when it’s running but when it breaks, say goodbye to your life saving 😂
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
So same as Skyline GT-Rs, which we’re used to.
@muntee33
@muntee33 5 месяцев назад
Its probably rhe cheapest of the lot now days lol.
@DontForgetOldKolobok
@DontForgetOldKolobok 5 месяцев назад
Purchase price is reasonable for the car, ok. Service costs are astronomical. And a blown gearbox will cost 15k+....if you're buying an 08, it's because you can't afford a 2012+. And if you can't afford a 2012+, you can't afford an 08. Spend 30k on a golf r, and 30k building it, it will be faster than a gtr, and hard as nails.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
Same saying goes for R32 Skyline GT-R If you cant afford two, you can’t afford one.
@brainiac006
@brainiac006 2 месяца назад
60k down the drain and you still drive a golf 🥲 nah HARD PASS
@andrewbroadfort6856
@andrewbroadfort6856 5 месяцев назад
It always need a manual so it was never any good to begin with. Heel and toe baby!
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 месяцев назад
Plenty of crappy manual cars and plenty of great DCT cars.
@user-jr1rz8ce9v
@user-jr1rz8ce9v 4 месяца назад
Manual doesnt belong in a car like this.
@andrewbroadfort6856
@andrewbroadfort6856 4 месяца назад
​@@MotiveVideo Every car equipped with a DCT would be better with a manual.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 4 месяца назад
@@andrewbroadfort6856 We don't agree. SOme cars suit DCT better for many reasons. Synchro h-pattern has proven to be slower and often un settle a car mid corner. We don't have a "all cars must be manual" mentality. It's OK if you think that. Thats the joy of subjective opinion.
@andrewbroadfort6856
@andrewbroadfort6856 3 месяца назад
@@MotiveVideo Learn to drive!
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