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Fun fact about beedrill: Thank to an oversight, BD was the only pokemon that could poison steel types in gen 2(barring that painting pokemon). Steel type avoided the poison status by being immune to poison moves but there was no code to prevent the status. Twinneedle was, of course, the only non-poison move that poison. So technically, Beedrill had corrosion five gens before Salandit and Salazzle.
@Aqua fn Actually no. Twinneedle could not poison poison types in gen one. Some clever person notice and added an extra rule to prevent this. Then Steel was added and that person must of taken a sick day since the same exception was missing from the new type.
What ruined Megas is having Mega Evolution to good Pokémon like Lucario, Salamence, Tyranitar, Garchomp, and the list goes on... It should exist only to underused/bottom tier Pokémon like Lumineon, Maractus, Delibird, Beeheeyen, Vespiqueen, Mr Mime, Basculin, Seviper and many others.
@@pacoramon9468 Pokémon is a really unbalanced game. You need to create inumerous restriction to play it "balanced" like Sleep Clause, Evasion Clause, Legendary ban, Mega ban, Gigantamax ban, Item ban
Why I love Beedrill: In the manga, Giovanni faced off against Elite Four Lance’s DRAGONITE with a Beedrill he caught in the Viridian Forest. How sick is that.
@@cober5768 I do the same in FR/LG. He's actually not bad at all considering his move pool. And tbh, I even used it vs Brock just to see if I could. I could. Once he was set up with harden against geodude, his onix was np as long as it didn't crit. And even if it did, it wouldn't survive the rest of the team since Brock doesn't have a full restore.
@@FraserSouris Overused is considered the cream of the crop when it comes to non-legendary pokemon. The best of the best. As FSG himself said himself, is says a heck of a lot the people used Bedrill in that environment at all. Every pokemon in OU is supposed to be between great and amazing, that's why it's called overused. As such, saying Bedrill is okay for falling short of it is a bit harsh.
Fraser Souris you’re just wrong here. You can roughly equate the tiers to quality. Uber: superb, OU: Excellent, UU: Good, RU: Mediocre, NU: Bad, PU: Terrible. As a UU mon, Mega Beedril is generally good.
I've never played pokemon competitively and focus on indie games more now.. And yet here I am watching my tenth episode of "How good was *pokemon name* ACTUALLY?" in a row.. Damn these videos are good.
@Daniel Samolewicz Ah with running a small RU-vid channel, uni studies and a keen interest in overwatch I'll never have the time haha! I'll just watch from the sidelines through videos like this!
Despite the crap and complaints most Pokemon who got Mega's tend to need them due to slipping on the competitive scene. Some even turned weak Pokemon to just straight up broken.
@@Xo-3130 I think megas are one of Game Freak's best ideas. They breathed new life into old Pokemon and introduced an interesting new mechanic to battles. It's a good sign that everyone wants their favorite Pokemon to get a mega. No one says "Dunsparce needs a signature Z-Move."
@@natekite7532 Signature Z-moves are a bit dumb if you ask me. I think just having the type based moves are a good idea. Them, regional variants and Megas are each good additions. (Though a few Pokemon could also use an evolution or two)
Toby They’re good when given to bad stuff like Beedrill and Lopunny, but I hate it when good Pokémon get Megas because they’re popular like Garchomp and Blaziken.
@@oscarzxn4067 Nah, he's a cannon. Beedrill learns a whole bunch of multi-attacking moves and if you use Focus Energy to increase your crit rate you can get 5 crits and take down things you shouldn't.
I remember when Beedrill was a Poke Ball Pokemon in Super Smash Brothers. It used to call a swarm of other Beedrill to join it in attacking the fighters in the game
For that one shining moment in Gen VI, Beedrill was tangling with the highest in standard play... Mega Butterfree, anyone? Let's make another early bug's wildest dreams come true!
Superior Troodon Decent in UU Gen 1 and 2 Good in Gen 3 UU Usable in UU, but dropped to NU in Gen 4 Good in Gen 5's NU, and has gimmick sets in UU as a second Heracross Regular dropped to NU, where it was decent. Mega was good in OU for Gen 6 Same for Gen 7, except regular fell to PU now
Man, Beedrill is my go-to Mega whenever I play USUM Online; It's really good as either a sweeper or a Toxic Spikes lead. (Just wish I had the time to properly EV it). Honestly my favorite episode of FSG; The tale of Pokemon's Yamcha, in effect. Plus the video quality is stellar, the voiceover is solid as always, and the writing concise but sweet. If this is the first vid of 2019, then *hoo boy* are we in for a good year!
@@elijahtoombs3524 The allegory was moreso DBZ to DBS (Yamcha/Beedrill, after years of mockery due to statistical ineptitude, found new hope through a baseball career/an interesting Mega). Agreed that Yamcha was pretty solid as Goku's first rival (although I'd like to note that even back then he was eventually outclassed by Krillin and Tien).
As someone who uses the pokemon I like and think look cool, rather than the stats, I always rep a Beedrill in my squad. Its a freakin' giant hornet with freakin' lances as fists. Though a 3rd stage evolution based on the Great Black Wasp and becoming Bug/Dark would be cool
Yes! Thank you! A Shiny Beedrill was the first Shiny I didn't try to chase after but encountered randomly and ever since it's my favorite, this was a cool video to see how the poor bug stacked up.
I really like Mega Beedrill. I use it in OU and it has its weaknesses, but overall it's pretty damn great! Unlike in the first five generations... Sad. Anyway, we love so many pokémon even when they're trash in competitive. Keep up the good work!
You know, I find Gen 1 analysis fascinating. Sure, gen 1 itself isn't that interesting, but how some mons change over time and fall from grace or rise up in the ashes and become somewhat decent or even good depending on the case.
@@gengarzilla1685 It was six-on-one and Beedrill was worn out after working its ass off! Yes! That's exactly what happened! I'm not exaggerating! YOU'RE EXAGGERATING!
Against an offensive team, it was good...just kidding. Being weak to Fire, Rock, and Dark means that most Pokèmon will be able to get that guaranteed KO.
They should make a game where every past OP gimmick gets brought back and thrown in together. Just a meta with Mega Rayquazas, Snorlaxes going full power with Pulverizing Pancake, Gigantamax Urshifus, and Tera-Electric Shedinjas.
Those are more just a programming error and a mechanic that had to be nerfed due to over-centralization than actively overpowered, one off gimmicks. Maybe the endless weather.
Now that I think about it, Bug-types have improved tremendously over the generations in competitive. Also, FSG, I appreciate the time spent on research for each and every analysis. Thanks for the content.
Beedrill has been my favourite bug-type since my first Pokémon game; LeafGreen. I thought it was so cool how it only needed to get to level 10 before you had your first fully evolved Pokémon, and was really sad to find out just how weak it was after the first couple of gyms. Already by the time you got to the likes of Erika and Sabrina, the other Pokémon had caught up in terms of power and surpassed it. Does that mean I replaced him? Lol no I took Stingo all the way to the Elite 4 xD
Beedrill is a good example of a Mega done right. Used to revitalize a Pokemon that, as far as popularity and usage, was pretty much dead, and done so effectively. I would love to see others of its kind receive a similar buff.
Truthfully, Pinsir was another one of those Pokemon that was never really any good until it got a Mega Evolution. It has no STAB to speak of in gen1 (and bug was the single worst type in the game), it didn't get a good one until gen4, and even then, it still wasn't very good. From about gen3 forward, one big flaw it had was that pretty much everything it could do, Heracross did better. It's mega, though, did wonders to make it actually viable, partially because it got a STAB priority move to spam.
I remember when I had me a Beedrill as one of the first Pokémon (outside of my starter) to use mega evolution in ORAS. It had an Adamant nature, and was literally a beast to anything I put it up against, even if it didn't outright take it out. I didn't and still don't know much about IVs and EVs, but that didn't really matter with super training. It had a move pool of Poison Jab, X-Scizzor, Protect (from when it was a Kakuna) and U-Turn. One day I learned while using Beedrill that by using protect when it mega-evolved, it would allow it's stats to boost from it's base to its mega-form stats. In short, I was able to get Beedrill up and going by always using it during/after the transformation. If I ever play a Pokémon game again, I hope mega-evolutions will make a big return (along side the super training, because that s*** was beyond incredible), because I know for sure that Beedrill will remain my go-to for a mega-evolver. side note: funny enough, I hate/fear and avoid large bugs in real life, but I'd definitely have Beedrill (or Heracross) as my buddy in the Pokémon world. Pokémon like Beedrill (like Arbok, for example) are awesome in their own right.
We need more Mega Evolutions for bad Pokemon like Ledian, Wigglytuff and Mightyena to atleast breathe in new life for these bad mons like what they did for Beedrill, Mawile and Lopunny. Its dissapointing that already good Pokemon like Salamence and Tyranitar have Megas, and in Garchomp's case, actually make something worse than the original.
They focused on Z-Crystals for gen 7, which is a shame. I really hope gen 8 brings plenty of megas. We need Flygon, Milotic, maybe Electrivire/Magmortar, etc.
More like normal evolutions, or just a straight up complete overhauls. Mega evolutions wouldn't even help those pokemon unless if they were given a cancerous ability, or a ridiculous stat spread like beedrill, which would just be bad game design.
Finally! I was one of the people asking for this since the beginning. I always loved beedrill because it just seems really cool. I hated how weak it was, it just seemed to not fit. Mega beedrill is even cooler and actually can back it up.
I remember using mega bee drill, jolly nature and if you get the fell stinger boost you annihilate so many things. Ubers barely has anything for it so I had so much success using it there.
Just a couple short remarks about gens 1 and 2 competitive: - while Smogon didn't exist in the late 90s and early 2000s, there were simulators and an active online competitive scene. Porygon's Big Show, an RBY simulator, dates from about 2000 and can still be found online, and old forums/fansites like Pokémasters and Azure Heights, which housed a lot of competitive discussion, were the direct ancestors of today's communities like Smogon. While it took awhile for standards to settle (such as banning evasion), the metagame as played then did resemble modern gens 1 and 2 in most important ways, and the information you'll read on Smogon and Pokémon Perfect about gens 1 and 2 is based on competitive experience dating back to the 90s (in other words, while the Nintendo Cup information is interesting too, the modern analyses are relevant too, and needn't be ignored for historical accuracy) - if you do want the best angle on modern gen 1, you should go to the Pokémon Perfect forums, where more gen 1 players organize and which have more up-to-date articles on gen 1 Pokémon listed under "Individual Analyses" (for instance, going by Smogon analyses you might think the choice between Golem and Rhydon is a coin flip, but in fact Rhydon is considered to be much better in today's metagame)
so many things could’ve been done to buff it. better stab moves, stat boosting moves, better ability, 400 base stat total, etc. twineedle having higher base attack. getting levitate instead of swarm. getting quick attack so maybe you can do the endeavor quick attack cheese. slightly better defenses or HP to actually survive 1 hit. an even higher attack stat so that you can put minimal investment into it for better survivability. all of that should’ve been something that happened early on
I might just be a gen one guy, but my beedrill was awesome took him to Pokémon league and he cleaned house granted he was level 92 but still one of my favs
If Beedrill and Mawile aren't gonna have their Megas, then give their stats a big buff so they're somewhat viable without them. And if they do get their Negas back, just tweak their stats so they won't be busted when their Mega stats stack on top of their buffed non-Mega stats.
Note about gen 1 Beedrill. It's the only sword dance user in the game that will OHKO Exeggutor after 1 boost. Kingler's Hyperbeam can't do that. Of course, Beedrill can't do a lot of other things like OHKO Rhydon like Kingler can. However, an interesting way you could potentially use Beedrill is in NC97, a bring 6 pick 3 format, meaning that you aren't forced to use Beedrill every game. Because you're picking only 3 pokemon it can be easier to find a good match up for Beedrill and note that Blizzard had a 30% chance to freeze in Japanese gen 1 NC97 which meant Exeggutor and Rhydon were far less common. You could have both Beedrill and Kingler on your team and choose either depending on the match ups you saw in team preview. Could even add Sandslash into the roaster in case you saw opposing Gengars
@@unbubbletea The Dunsparce and Unown episodes were worse, imo. At least they tried to make Ledian look like a complete and absolute monster that could destroy everything that stands in it's way in spite of it being the furthest thing possible from that, amusingly enough.
How GOOD was the comments section on EVERY SINGLE ONE of these videos? Bad. Nothing but request after request. No constructive criticism, no compliments on how much research these guys must do. I feel pretty bad honestly.
the idea of individually looking at pokemon competitively is just so wonderful for pokemon fans it even hurts his ability to branch out to other things, no one really suggests smash bros content here either and he wants to do it... it's just other popular channels do that already so there's no need it kinda sucks for FSG the only ones doing this so that's all people want them to do
@@alexroth67 Part of it I believe is also a "15 seconds of fame" ordeal like - "Awesome! I'm part of a famous video!" Since FSG does feature the comments section (especially the highest voted) as the Pokemon featured that week, unless it was a Patreon pick. Even when people jump onto a badwagon, I'm pretty sure some of it is egotism instead of actually wanting the Pokemon - and even then once they enter a 'pattern' - like suggesting a series of starters/legendaries - it becomes easier to suggest the next Pokemon in hopes to be featured next week. Honestly, I've kept picking Scyther each week because they said on the Scizor video that Scyther was unique enough to warrant its own video and I'm just trying to get them to come full circle, like they eventually did with the Moves section in Gen 1 Battling Explained (which took well over a year like Scyther) - I know that after Gen 3 Power Creep descended on Scyther HARD and while Gen 5 likely gave it some viability with Evolite the item would likely be better used on defensive oriented Pokemon like Chansey instead of a Stealth Rock crushed Scyther. That and my personal favorite Pokemon Raichu was already featured, although I kinda wished they redid that video as A. Later since they've since started describing the Gen 7 Metagame and the Raichu video was before they started doing more than a passing mention... And B. Alolan Raichu isn't featured on the thumbnail or the intro sequence, thus it was pretty much glossed over aside from said passing mention.
What about the fact that, even when he was backed up by all three legendary Birds, plus a Golduck and Rattata, it took many tries to beat the Elite Four and Champion?
How GOOD was Amoongus ACTUALLY? This pokedex filler has found niches in almost all competitive formats and was the only non-legendary/mega on the Chalk core, I am really curious what made this thing so incredible!
"This shows that there may be hope for even the most dismal Pokemon out there. So if you see a crappy Pokemoon, just draw a Mega on it. Maybe it'll be okay." Me: *Remembers Mega Stunfisk in Insurgence* *Vietnam Flashbacks*
Terrible, to be honest with you. It's not fast (even though it looks like it would be), most of it's coverage move options are weak to mediocre, and it's just overall very, painfully outclassed by other electric types offensively. It's only real niche is in it's hidden ability, Guts, and even then, the above mentioned problems still persist, unfortunately.
