How Hard Can You Ride E-Bikes? | Shredding EMTBs At The Bike Park

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Neil and Blake have got hold of a Canyon Torque:ON and a new Orbea Rise to see how they handle some of the biggest jumps in our neck of the woods! We headed to the Dirt Farm near Abergavenny in Wales to put them through their paces on the fast trails and over the various jumps.
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@gmbn Год назад

If you had an E-bike would you predominantly ride it to lap the jump lines or would you do longer, epic adventures on it? 🤔

@heeroyui9439 Год назад

I want trails built for what an e-bike is capable of at the limit. Can't wait to see the future of e-biking. There is almost no terrain limitation anymore, it's all fun if the trail design is good. Places no longer need to rely on having hills suited for descending to be a destination. This sport is going to evolve in an amazing direction.

@smallesy8638 Год назад

I have the orbea Blake does on this video, and i do both on it really I live right next to the cannock chase trails so not so many jump lines less your looking for them or going out your way to find them ! What I suppose is an adventure on its own but I love it could never go back to my hardtail or full sus after the fun I've had on my rise

@Comet-0500 Год назад

I wouldn’t ride it, just flex on my friends

@nk-dw2hm Год назад

@@teamdoa better remove your speed limiter since most ebikes top out at 15mph

@junka1975 Год назад

Both. 😀👍

@wolfura Год назад

I have the scott patron 900 since last week and I'm absolutely in love with it. I do +50 miles every single day now and I am still able to work out as well if I put it in eco or turn the engine off. It's an absolute beast and perfect overall bike to hit the trails and commute to work.

@westoncraig Год назад

damn, im 38 in a couple of months and never jumped a bike..watching this makes me want to learn!

@ickebins6948 Год назад

Just do it. I'm 42 and rode bike for the longest part of my life but didnt jump one either... Getting a capable bike next week and pumped to get it out :)

@jayvkman Год назад

40 and started jumps/double blacks this year, its good! However get as much body armor as you can afford.

@dvs620 Год назад

@@jayvkman Yes. I'm 40 and the jumping doesn't scare me. Riding down gnarly, steep stuff doesn't scare me. I want to learn all of that. I'm just too old to fall. 😆 Earlier this year I had a crash on a simple jump, somehow DIDN'T break my collarbone and was sore for days. Combine that with the high heat (over 100f basically all summer) and I haven't ridden much, so my confidence is low. But I definitely want to get back to working on my jumps.

@jayvkman Год назад

@@dvs620 falling is inevitable. At this age healing takes forever, my wrist is still messed up from a crash in June. Maximizing time on the bike is key, so add padding everywhere to avoid time off + boost confidence. Time is the one thing you can’t get more of ;)

@gumbeerider3899 Год назад

Probably the best video you guys have made shredding and on ebikes

@Huntingslife1 Год назад

Watching you boys shred is asmr!

@gibbykirwan7788 Год назад

Love my ebike. Been riding one since 2016 & I'd say it's the best invention since the pneumatic tyre

@Edwordless Год назад

Just picked up the Marin Alpine Trail E1 and love it so far! Was worried about the weight, but my KTM weighs about 250 pounds, and I throw that around a bit, so no worries there. It’s got great suspension, and I love the mullet setup. I’m keeping my Ghost as well, so I’ve got options, but first rode out I did about 17 miles and looped a long uphill section with some sweet single track downhill!

@PaulMoody Год назад

Love my full fat Turbo Levo - put 5000km on Vermont rooty rocky trails with zero problems. Enables me to ride twice as much with half the pain (older rider)

@MountainBikeMusings Год назад

That flip was rad!

@RicardoSantos-bt3dc Год назад

Absolute epic video! Let's go!!

@gmbn Год назад

Thanks Ricardo! We really appreciate the support! 👊

@alecrl1 Год назад

Love my Orbea Rise

@embn Год назад

E-bikes on GMBN!! 🤯

@gmbn Год назад

You didn't see anything!😉😅

@loftkey Год назад

These trails look amazing!!!!!

@imududeplaynududedisguisedasa- Год назад

Wow, is there anything you guys can't do!? Incredible riding. You guys blow me away watching your videos. I don't think I'll never be as good as you guys.

@wm05eb Год назад

Love the video! Be good to see you guys review the pole voima 190 travel front and back 👀

@Gwent575 Год назад

I love my rise I needed a light enough bike so I could carry it up to my 3rd floor flat. I can carry this easy and feels so amazing on the trail. Still keeping my acoustic full suss tho. Great vid. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@stug45 Год назад

My mates have e bikes but I don't have the budget. I've just got to stay really fit

@doubleL_S Год назад

Don't worry they're all lazy c**ts and you're not.

@SpencerBaum Год назад

Just sell one of your kidneys!

@gmbn Год назад

That's a great motivation to stay fit! 😅

@g.w.customcreations3534 Год назад

Nah, show em up. When they're a bit less knackered at the end of a sesh, just know it's cost them a fortune, and has taken much less skill. You're the better rider for not being a girl about it. 😂

@junka1975 Год назад

Same here, budget doesn't allow for it just yet. They will eventually run out of battery, unless you're going to ride like my mate Gary who switches his off and rides it like a normal bike until he needs the motor. He always says though that I am definitely getting all the exercise. 😜👍

@curtvaughan2836 Год назад

Transition is coming out with a new e-bike called the Relay sometime in the Spring. It will have 160/170 suspension travel and is light weight for an e-bike. It almost looks like a Sentinel with a motor. They have some videos of their folks putting some prototypes to the test on their website.

@downhill64 Год назад

Great video guys, looked great

@gmbn Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it! We had such a good time making this one! Cheers!

@matthieubrasselet1 Год назад

Back from winterberg with Specialized turbo levo SL, Even if I am no pro like you guys, jumps are pretty easy and incredibly stables, and brings more confidence. I don’t know how to wip or so just to bring some context 😁

@dazmtb Год назад

I love Dirt Farm 🙌🏼. I’ve just bought the Rail 9.8XT and you guys have just put so many worries to bed for me riding eebs. Please do more of this if you could guys 🙏🏻…. Awesome video again 🙌🏼

@JurriaanH Год назад

I'm still in doubt between an analog enduro or (light) E-MTB; does it take a lot of extra effort working the bike it's way down on (intermediate) technical descends?

@dazmtb Год назад

@@JurriaanH well I’m keeping my Mega Elite 290 should the eebz be to heavy for me to continue jumping on it! I may even throw a set of triple crown forks on but unsure how it will effect the geometry!

@JurriaanH Год назад

@@dazmtb We're in the same boat, albeit in a different type of landscape. I guess I'll just wing it with the E for trips abroad and keep my hardtail for the regional Dutch singletracks ;-)

@dazmtb Год назад

@@JurriaanH I wing it every time I ride 😂

@mtbfever8578 Год назад

Wow this canyon is fire 🔥 so is the Orbea 😍 I own Canyon hardtrail And absolutely love it Great video guys !

@gmbn Год назад

Yeah, both bikes look sooooo good!!🔥 Thank you 🙌

@mtbfever8578 Год назад

@@gmbn sadly my hardtrail isn't e bike If you guys ever get bored of any of them bikes let me know 😉 Gmbn is simply amazing 👏

@PePratiMTBRoma Год назад

Insane .......shared on our group:) thank u:)

@leandrovaranda4555 Год назад

you should swap the bikes during the video. Great Vid. I moved from Full powered (norco range c2) to a lightweight (orbea rise m10). The Orbea is way more fun to ride and so much easier to put in the back of my van :) - I put a 160 fork and it feels much better.

@S14AA Месяц назад

my 1st bike is a norco range A1 vlt i struggle to clear some jumps and others i just dont think i can with the speed i have not sure if its just my abilty but hahah :)

@encoresurfacing84 7 месяцев назад

68y.o. with asthma. Went from Ripley to to Specialized Turbo Levo. Changed all the suspension to Fox 38 etc. Now i go for 2-3 hours at a time ,lost 10 lbs,jumping stuff too big for me on the Ripley.

@jeanmarc_in_Hudson Год назад

Great content guys, I watch both gmbn & embn. Exciting times for mountain bikers in general, lots of innovations muscular and electric. 👍

@embn Год назад

100% ! Thanks for watching EMBN (the better channel)! 😉

@gmbn Год назад

We totally agree (not with EMBN)! Thanks so much for the support!

@JohnRonFonz Год назад

@@embn 😅

@SPL88 Год назад

Nice one guys You should also try the Trek Fuel EXe while you’re at it. I’m loving mine!

@gmbn Год назад

That's a great bike! Thanks for watching!

@stewartjackson1821 Год назад

2022 Kenevo for me, came from an enduro and will never look back 😘

@mountainbiking8531 Год назад

awesome man

@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v Год назад

Now you have done it! It's like putting a Roadie on a mtb lines have crossed blurred maybe even removed what were you thinking

@Tooby789 Год назад

Ngl after a Month on my Patron 920 Eride bike, im Felling so good going up the and down mountains, even feeling more fit than before i guess its more motivating to

@brandihodges9548 Год назад

Love my Orbea wild! With the longer bike, I can jump better and it's more stable bombing down stuff. Love the longer xc adventures also.

@JMJM75257 Год назад

They should do a diy bafang ebike build and compare it to all in one. it would be intresting to see which pulls ahead with power etc.

@ToothlessJustin Год назад

Been considering an eBike since I got my big rig enduro but the pricing for the spec has always held me back. That said, seriously considering the Canyon Torque: ON this year as the full Fox factory setup with X01/RSC for under £6K is mighty tempting

@lanapearce9968 Год назад

I'm no good at jumping, I'm 50 and feeling it, I like riding my MTB for some exercise and countryside. I wouldn't feel like I'd been for a ride if my bike had a motor. Probably just stuck in my ways, but it was a good video seeing you guys throw an EMTB around.

@z33r0now3 Год назад

Do you do loops with over 100km trough the countryside up and down on an evening? That’s Sport on an ebike. It never gets easier you just drive faster.

@M1km1sta 20 дней назад

You should hire one for a couple of hours and you will be surprised I was sceptical at first until I tried my mates one, a week later I brought one lol, now I don't use my MTB

@chrisgenovese8188 Год назад

wish my ebike had full sus, but i still send it down some decent trails. i would love that Orbea!

@jonnysnakes5417 Год назад

The only downside ive really found with my eeb is there is a lot of really ridiculously steep trails in my area and once you drop in there is no stopping with the extra weight. Also im more comfortable trying a sketchy drop on a normal bike then come back with the eeb.

@stzydyz Год назад

I take the long epic adventure trip... To the jump line, boost the thing in the Air have Fun 🙌🏻👍🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻and at the end of the day hopefully still enough battery for the way home 🤣😉

@gmbn Год назад

Love it! Sounds like a sick day out (only if the battery lasts)! 😂

@fpainchaud350 Год назад

I am thinking that my next bike will be a bike. Probably a light powered one like the Treck Fuel Xe or the transition with the Fazua...

@bmarsden10 Год назад

It’s great to see the Orbea been chucked around like that. I’ve got a Rise M10 and it’s a great bike. Been to the bike park a few times, but never jumped it anything like this. Interesting to see that the wheels had been changed. One think that’s currently bothering me on my Rise is the wheels. They sometimes give the impression you’ve got a flat tyre as they squirm around. Did you change them because you didn’t think the stock ones were up to the task? What is the spec on the ones you are running?

@zlNerdmovies Год назад

I put the 27.5 rear Wheel out of my Trek in my M10 since i destroyed the rim of the original Wheel in the Bikepark. I think that happened when i rode down a ~80cm "root-drop" to flat and landed on a rock. I can tell you this rim really was f*cked, i dont think they are that robust.

@eskopar Год назад

Agarro in the back, I think I should try it...

@junka1975 Год назад

That back flip Blake did with Neil coming up the jump behind him looked absolutely epic! The whips were totally on point for both the boys. I can honestly say that riding analogue vs my mates who are on e bikes, it really is night and day. The e bikes win but what bike should a big fat 176cm tall 126kg bloke be buying? What should the big heavy riders be looking for?

@cole61 Год назад

I am assuming you are in Europe... I would recommend a Dengfu e10(bafang m600, m510 motors) , and dengfu e22(bafang m620 motor, chews more battery but stronger more reliable motor, mostly on climbs with full torque / using the optional throttle) almost identical frames other than motor mounts! I personally ride e10 and it is AMAZING. Great prices too for a way more capable bike than 90% of the market.

@anitalandkroon Год назад

Great video 😃😃❤ and I'm still riding an Amish bike 😬😬 but who knows in a few years 🤔🤔

@stevecrump1375 Год назад

Im building a DIY ebike... Can't wait to try it out on the hill's...👍

@scudy4 Год назад

Can we get more cheap bike challenges? Like top gear, various different challenges and or events presenters have to do which they don't know about and they've got to guess the right bike for the job?

@JasonFoxLCB Год назад

Would love to try or just roll the dice and buy a Rise. My legs have always been my biggest weakness that exercise can only help so much (due to a couple physiological issues). Just turned 50 (and got a hopper ramp as a gift), so why not?

@dthree4113 Год назад

Do it! I just got the Rise a month ago and I've done more trail miles since then thanI had in the previous 12 months on my regular MTB.

@JasonFoxLCB Год назад

@@dthree4113 If I had the $$$ I'd do it in a heartbeat. Been a summer of finally doing long-delayed house projects. And, of course, I can blame my kids for insisting on food and shelter. Good to hear you dig it, though. I've only seen reviews on here to go by.

@albertmills9365 Год назад

So English....having a cup of tea after shredding downhill :)

@RobHill00 Год назад

Dirt farm looks a lot like Black mountain?🤔 got a Kenevo SL with a few upgrades, factory 38, AXS X01, Hope tech 4-V4’s absolutely love it!🥰 on the limit of what you want to throw on an uplift at Bike park Wales etc ideally I would get another bike for that sort of stuff! But this bike does everything!👌🏻

@Reuben.43 5 месяцев назад

That’s because dirt farm is black mountain

@9paraneil Год назад

I also ride a canyon torque on. However mine doesn't sale through the air like Neil's torque does. Maybe I'll get in touch with canyon about this 🤔.

@gmbn Год назад

Hmmmmmm 😂😉

@chaconWOOOOOO Год назад

Blake 🎉

@Crayonz014 Год назад

I’d love to try an ebike on a milder trail. I’m afraid that the assistance would push the speeds out of comfort zome

@GC16199 Год назад

Moto cuts out at 25 kph so it doesn't scare you that much. And you still have brakes ;)

@markyp1965 Год назад

Almost seems like at least half the riders at trail centres like the FOD, are on ebikes now. Certainly, if you see a group of riders, they’re almost certainly all on them. I’m not in the market for one as of yet, but if I was, it would be one of the lighter (half fat) models.

@DARRENTRANCE Год назад

My only issue with ebikes is the battery range as 90% of my rides are over 50 miles and can't justify buying an extra battery. Once they can do at least 80 miles then I'd be interested in an ebike. Good video though 👌 👍

@olik136 Год назад

well it is not a car- you can just ride the remaining extra miles without assistance... besides that the range of the bosch system with the 750wh battery is quoted at 85 miles

@z33r0now3 Год назад

I do 110km per 750 watt battery. And this is an enduro bike with knobblies

@Merceralex77 Месяц назад

Can hubmotor bikes do jumps?

@danielcedolin2034 Год назад

Still think you need to have fast Ebike lap round say Degla one E on the heavier Ebike then on the Sl see which is faster and which is more fun ??

@olik136 Год назад

who cares which is faster?- you can't compete in the same class and for fun it doesn't matter

@arronspuddylaird5357 Год назад

E bikes do look much heavier but I bet there nice for climbing

@NeonxNomad Год назад

I got hit by a car on my ecotric super last week and its fine unlike myself.

@emilymarble1174 10 месяцев назад

After about 3 years the last Keurig stopped working ru-vid.comUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf initially was able to unblock, however eventually we couldn't fix. That one was a replacement unit sent by the manufacturer after we had problems with our very first Keurig. This works fine (lol, at least for now) however I didn't realize the water reservoir was so much smaller than our prior unit. With 2 people having one or two cups of coffee each morning, it seems like I'm refilling it daily. Otherwise just happy to have the convenience of pod coffee vs. making a morning pot.

@edgarsnezinu1439 Год назад

Tom Cardy king of the e bikes

@jamesridoni Год назад

I am thinking about a cross country e bike

@DarcyFletchh Год назад

Ooh

@MrFlapstick 8 месяцев назад

Most jumps you wanna be way quicker than 25kph to hit, so unless it’s steep eBikes suck for hitting jumps through the limiter, speed these guys are going these are just heavy bikes on the down

@gummistreiterl Год назад

but how about hardtail e-bikes? :o

@OverMotoren Год назад

Is there any future for non e?

@olik136 Год назад

obviously- downhill racing doesn't need assistance; XC racing is about comparing fitness and for casual riding electric bikes are just too expensive to kill the normal bikes.

@reneocenas2543 Год назад

👍

@conrod4910 Год назад

Despite ridiculous hate for e-bikes from some ‘purists ‘ yawn…..as a guy with rapidly deteriorating knees and lower back I’m strongly considering an e-bike for my next purchase, I have to stay off the really rough stuff but can still enjoy a jump line or longer smoother trails. I’d rather enjoy a full day than dick measure on the way up. It was exactly the same conversation 20 years ago when full suspension came out, ‘all you need is a hard tail’ blah blah. It’s just another form of progression for those that want it surely?

@mr.facker9131 Год назад

Are they using cleats?

@dominikgarbauer6883 Год назад

From the looks of it, no. Looks like normal flat pedals. Also they're doing one-footers which you wouldn't really be able to do with clipless pedals.

@gmbn Год назад

Blake and Neil were running flats in this video. 👍

@user-on7vr4cs7l 28 дней назад

I would think that they would not last much of that abuse. My friend had a similar kit and it did perform but it started failing after 5 months. This was in Oklahoma on very rough and steep terrain. Not the candyassed groomed trails you blokes were rocking.

@plainuser48596 Год назад

Would love myself an ebike, but prices are asinine, normal bike prices are whack, but what is happening with ebikes is just disgusting.

@RobertSchuster68 Год назад

Wrong song! It should be „Jump around“ House of Pain Roswita agreed

@gmbn Год назад

Haha! Maybe you're right! 😂

@RobertSchuster68 Год назад

@@gmbn just turn on the song with your loudest BassBox, and start watching your video again 😎😂😂 But be careful what’s around you, you might have to jump around 🙋🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️👍

@bobothericefarmer1878 Год назад

Their only a bit heavier and a bit harder to move but other than that they still feel like a normal mtb

@gmbn Год назад

We agree! Well put! 👊

@barrycorney3665 Год назад

Great to see the a-hole purists getting riled up.... doubt many of them know the input most of the GMBN guys have had on EMBN in the last few years, all brilliant....keep up the good work folks... Even Si Richardson did The Slab on an e-gravel bike- oh yes he was absolutely f***ed at the top but there's the proof that you still can get a massive workout but get up things all you "real" mountain biking gods out there could never even contemplate....

@TheWeardale1 Год назад

i love the way these bods alienate anyone over the age of 15 by the way they act...🤣😂🤣

@mtblover Год назад

👌👍💥

@gmbn Год назад

🔥

@TheLelol Год назад

Why is there Ebike content on GMBN?

@gmbn Год назад

GMBN is for all bikes! 🙌

@FCBVFBFURIMMER Год назад

Do you guys reply? (Pls do)

@gmbn Год назад

No we don't! 😉

@nito_gocni5460 Год назад

I'm lazy enough and should never be allowed an e-bike. Maybe in 30 years when my knees are shot I'll consider one until then I'll keep pedaling

@Rustyfox46 Год назад

Oh. Another video on e bikes. Is this embn or gmbn channel 🙄

@erinb4919 Год назад

Why ebikes on gmbn? There is another channel for e motor bikes

@robertbransby Год назад

Boring 😴

@gmbn Год назад

Hey Erin! GMBN is for all bikes! E-bikes are allowed from time to time! 😅

@GokkunGuru Год назад

No pedaling required. One less element to worry about. One less element to tire you out.

@olik136 Год назад

so you have never ridden one then? you have to pedal- the motor only assist you. The versions with throttles are generally not allowed in the EU or are treated as motorbikes

@optimoespacio Год назад

😂 tell you what, you come up here to Scotland, I will rent out an e-bike for you and take you one one of my favourite rides, see how tired out you are by the end….

@franklee6301 Год назад

All these clowns hating on ebikes have either never tried one or can't afford one and they're letting their jealousy show.

@readyboy61 Год назад

My Evil custom dream build cost more than some e bikes, Ive had a go on an ebike, I will never own one!

@rule3036 Год назад

Cycling Mtb or road is supposed to be about using your own power to get about. E bikes good for the old, infirm , obese I guess.

@Antidepressiva1980 Год назад

lol, haters gonna hate. go eat some dirt

@gknb7796 Год назад

i love the videos but i like men better

@Velo1010 Год назад

I call them chEater bikes. Let’s face it what fun is it if you’re getting assistance up a hill. That’s part of the experience.

@robertbransby Год назад

People still using that old chestnut 😂

@gmbn Год назад

Riding uphill is all part of the experience, but e-bikes are great for blasting up hills! 😉

@olik136 Год назад

imagine not hating your life for at least half of every trip...

@optimoespacio Год назад

What fun is it getting assistance up the hill? Have you not seen the grin on peoples faces as they power uphill?

@smoothisfast6644 Год назад

I think E- bikes are gonna kill themselves. They will get better and more powerful until a ministry of transport or department of transportation classifies them as a motorcycle. Or at least up to a certain power level.

@olik136 Год назад

all the e-bikes you see here or on EMBN are actually pedelecs- depending on the country (but similar in most EU countries) they are regulated to 250w output and may only assist your manual input (no throttle). Only the torque and responsiveness differs. Those rules got updated from the existing laws for gas-engine assisted bicycles. The only think killing e-bikes at the moment is the prize- they have come close to actual motorbikes...

@MM-tn3br Год назад

they used stunt doubles. lame

@g.w.customcreations3534 Год назад

Good video, but I'd rather p1ss on an electric fence than get an ebike. If I want a powered bike, there's 150bhp in the garage. I may be a bit old n fat, but I'd rather earn my stripes then buy em.

@barrycorney3665 Год назад

Yawn.... said everyone who has never even been on one.... what walking boots do you use for your "Real" biking? Scarpa or Berghaus?? 😂

@Antidepressiva1980 Год назад

@@barrycorney3665 haha, good point :)

@Kuimera Год назад

just get on a motorcycle and get over it..

@gmbn Год назад

🙁

@Kuimera Год назад

@@gmbn I don't like how this is going... for me is like putting a motor on a surfboard.. MTB is losing it's natural thing.. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I feel about e-bikes.

@optimoespacio Год назад

But they are completely different things?….

@em8452 Год назад

If I had an E-bike something would be terribly wrong. Please leave those monstrosities on EMBN.

@Antidepressiva1980 Год назад

hey cheapskate, go eat some dirt :P

@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK Год назад

Jus goes to show the extra weight means virtually NOTHING! For Gods sake a Motocross bike weighs 250 lbs they dont seem to have ANY issue getting air. I say get the Ebike with the fastest motor that way u can rip thru trails, hit jumps like dirt bikes and get back up the hill as fast as possible.