How Hard Can You Ride E-Bikes? | Shredding EMTBs At The Bike Park

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Neil and Blake have got hold of a Canyon Torque:ON and a new Orbea Rise to see how they handle some of the biggest jumps in our neck of the woods! We headed to the Dirt Farm near Abergavenny in Wales to put them through their paces on the fast trails and over the various jumps.
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@gmbn 2 года назад

If you had an E-bike would you predominantly ride it to lap the jump lines or would you do longer, epic adventures on it? 🤔

@heeroyui9439 2 года назад

I want trails built for what an e-bike is capable of at the limit. Can't wait to see the future of e-biking. There is almost no terrain limitation anymore, it's all fun if the trail design is good. Places no longer need to rely on having hills suited for descending to be a destination. This sport is going to evolve in an amazing direction.

@smallesy8638 2 года назад

I have the orbea Blake does on this video, and i do both on it really I live right next to the cannock chase trails so not so many jump lines less your looking for them or going out your way to find them ! What I suppose is an adventure on its own but I love it could never go back to my hardtail or full sus after the fun I've had on my rise

@Comet-0500 2 года назад

I wouldn’t ride it, just flex on my friends

@nk-dw2hm 2 года назад

@@teamdoa better remove your speed limiter since most ebikes top out at 15mph

@junka1975 2 года назад

Both. 😀👍

@embn 2 года назад

E-bikes on GMBN!! 🤯

@gmbn 2 года назад

You didn't see anything!😉😅

@wolfura 2 года назад

I have the scott patron 900 since last week and I'm absolutely in love with it. I do +50 miles every single day now and I am still able to work out as well if I put it in eco or turn the engine off. It's an absolute beast and perfect overall bike to hit the trails and commute to work.

@PaulMoody 2 года назад

Love my full fat Turbo Levo - put 5000km on Vermont rooty rocky trails with zero problems. Enables me to ride twice as much with half the pain (older rider)

@stug45 2 года назад

My mates have e bikes but I don't have the budget. I've just got to stay really fit

@doubleL_S 2 года назад

Don't worry they're all lazy c**ts and you're not.

@SpencerBaum 2 года назад

Just sell one of your kidneys!

@gmbn 2 года назад

That's a great motivation to stay fit! 😅

@g.w.customcreations3534 2 года назад

Nah, show em up. When they're a bit less knackered at the end of a sesh, just know it's cost them a fortune, and has taken much less skill. You're the better rider for not being a girl about it. 😂

@junka1975 2 года назад

Same here, budget doesn't allow for it just yet. They will eventually run out of battery, unless you're going to ride like my mate Gary who switches his off and rides it like a normal bike until he needs the motor. He always says though that I am definitely getting all the exercise. 😜👍

@gibbykirwan7788 2 года назад

Love my ebike. Been riding one since 2016 & I'd say it's the best invention since the pneumatic tyre

@leandrovaranda4555 2 года назад

you should swap the bikes during the video. Great Vid. I moved from Full powered (norco range c2) to a lightweight (orbea rise m10). The Orbea is way more fun to ride and so much easier to put in the back of my van :) - I put a 160 fork and it feels much better.

@S14AA 5 месяцев назад

my 1st bike is a norco range A1 vlt i struggle to clear some jumps and others i just dont think i can with the speed i have not sure if its just my abilty but hahah :)

@E-MTBs 2 года назад

That flip was rad!

@codecombustion7878 27 дней назад

And here I am riding a ~40KG Himiway Cobra Pro. It's an absolute monster both in weight and power, just not quite as nimble but has so much power -- I haven't found something I can't climb with a bit of momentum.

@Edwordless 2 года назад

Just picked up the Marin Alpine Trail E1 and love it so far! Was worried about the weight, but my KTM weighs about 250 pounds, and I throw that around a bit, so no worries there. It’s got great suspension, and I love the mullet setup. I’m keeping my Ghost as well, so I’ve got options, but first rode out I did about 17 miles and looped a long uphill section with some sweet single track downhill!

@Huntingslife1 2 года назад

Watching you boys shred is asmr!

@gumbeerider3899 2 года назад

Probably the best video you guys have made shredding and on ebikes

@westoncraig 2 года назад

damn, im 38 in a couple of months and never jumped a bike..watching this makes me want to learn!

@ickebins6948 2 года назад

Just do it. I'm 42 and rode bike for the longest part of my life but didnt jump one either... Getting a capable bike next week and pumped to get it out :)

@jayvkman 2 года назад

40 and started jumps/double blacks this year, its good! However get as much body armor as you can afford.

@dvs620 2 года назад

@@jayvkman Yes. I'm 40 and the jumping doesn't scare me. Riding down gnarly, steep stuff doesn't scare me. I want to learn all of that. I'm just too old to fall. 😆 Earlier this year I had a crash on a simple jump, somehow DIDN'T break my collarbone and was sore for days. Combine that with the high heat (over 100f basically all summer) and I haven't ridden much, so my confidence is low. But I definitely want to get back to working on my jumps.

@jayvkman 2 года назад

@@dvs620 falling is inevitable. At this age healing takes forever, my wrist is still messed up from a crash in June. Maximizing time on the bike is key, so add padding everywhere to avoid time off + boost confidence. Time is the one thing you can’t get more of ;)

@encoresurfacing84 10 месяцев назад

68y.o. with asthma. Went from Ripley to to Specialized Turbo Levo. Changed all the suspension to Fox 38 etc. Now i go for 2-3 hours at a time ,lost 10 lbs,jumping stuff too big for me on the Ripley.

@matthieubrasselet1 2 года назад

Back from winterberg with Specialized turbo levo SL, Even if I am no pro like you guys, jumps are pretty easy and incredibly stables, and brings more confidence. I don’t know how to wip or so just to bring some context 😁

@jeanmarc_in_Hudson 2 года назад

Great content guys, I watch both gmbn & embn. Exciting times for mountain bikers in general, lots of innovations muscular and electric. 👍

@embn 2 года назад

100% ! Thanks for watching EMBN (the better channel)! 😉

@gmbn 2 года назад

We totally agree (not with EMBN)! Thanks so much for the support!

@JohnRonFonz 2 года назад

@@embn 😅

@durpcity7420 2 месяца назад

me: was this video shot in the uk? sound track: me: gotcha

@EMTBNZ 2 месяца назад

Epic Skills guys!! Go both showed it’s very possible. I have a new Focus Sam2 6.9, loving it 🫶😎🤙

@stewartjackson1821 2 года назад

2022 Kenevo for me, came from an enduro and will never look back 😘

@alecrl1 2 года назад

Love my Orbea Rise

@lanapearce9968 2 года назад

I'm no good at jumping, I'm 50 and feeling it, I like riding my MTB for some exercise and countryside. I wouldn't feel like I'd been for a ride if my bike had a motor. Probably just stuck in my ways, but it was a good video seeing you guys throw an EMTB around.

@z33r0now3 2 года назад

Do you do loops with over 100km trough the countryside up and down on an evening? That’s Sport on an ebike. It never gets easier you just drive faster.

@M1km1sta 4 месяца назад

You should hire one for a couple of hours and you will be surprised I was sceptical at first until I tried my mates one, a week later I brought one lol, now I don't use my MTB

@RicardoSantos-bt3dc 2 года назад

Absolute epic video! Let's go!!

@gmbn 2 года назад

Thanks Ricardo! We really appreciate the support! 👊

@mtbfever8578 2 года назад

Wow this canyon is fire 🔥 so is the Orbea 😍 I own Canyon hardtrail And absolutely love it Great video guys !

@gmbn 2 года назад

Yeah, both bikes look sooooo good!!🔥 Thank you 🙌

@mtbfever8578 2 года назад

@@gmbn sadly my hardtrail isn't e bike If you guys ever get bored of any of them bikes let me know 😉 Gmbn is simply amazing 👏

@PePratiMTBRoma 2 года назад

Insane .......shared on our group:) thank u:)

@junka1975 2 года назад

That back flip Blake did with Neil coming up the jump behind him looked absolutely epic! The whips were totally on point for both the boys. I can honestly say that riding analogue vs my mates who are on e bikes, it really is night and day. The e bikes win but what bike should a big fat 176cm tall 126kg bloke be buying? What should the big heavy riders be looking for?

@cole61 Год назад

I am assuming you are in Europe... I would recommend a Dengfu e10(bafang m600, m510 motors) , and dengfu e22(bafang m620 motor, chews more battery but stronger more reliable motor, mostly on climbs with full torque / using the optional throttle) almost identical frames other than motor mounts! I personally ride e10 and it is AMAZING. Great prices too for a way more capable bike than 90% of the market.

@downhill64 2 года назад

Great video guys, looked great

@gmbn 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! We had such a good time making this one! Cheers!

@loftkey 2 года назад

These trails look amazing!!!!!

@curtvaughan2836 2 года назад

Transition is coming out with a new e-bike called the Relay sometime in the Spring. It will have 160/170 suspension travel and is light weight for an e-bike. It almost looks like a Sentinel with a motor. They have some videos of their folks putting some prototypes to the test on their website.

@SPL88 2 года назад

Nice one guys You should also try the Trek Fuel EXe while you’re at it. I’m loving mine!

@gmbn 2 года назад

That's a great bike! Thanks for watching!

@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v 2 года назад

Now you have done it! It's like putting a Roadie on a mtb lines have crossed blurred maybe even removed what were you thinking

@dazmtb Год назад

I love Dirt Farm 🙌🏼. I’ve just bought the Rail 9.8XT and you guys have just put so many worries to bed for me riding eebs. Please do more of this if you could guys 🙏🏻…. Awesome video again 🙌🏼

@JurriaanH Год назад

I'm still in doubt between an analog enduro or (light) E-MTB; does it take a lot of extra effort working the bike it's way down on (intermediate) technical descends?

@dazmtb Год назад

@@JurriaanH well I’m keeping my Mega Elite 290 should the eebz be to heavy for me to continue jumping on it! I may even throw a set of triple crown forks on but unsure how it will effect the geometry!

@JurriaanH Год назад

@@dazmtb We're in the same boat, albeit in a different type of landscape. I guess I'll just wing it with the E for trips abroad and keep my hardtail for the regional Dutch singletracks ;-)

@dazmtb Год назад

@@JurriaanH I wing it every time I ride 😂

@brandihodges9548 2 года назад

Love my Orbea wild! With the longer bike, I can jump better and it's more stable bombing down stuff. Love the longer xc adventures also.

@stzydyz 2 года назад

I take the long epic adventure trip... To the jump line, boost the thing in the Air have Fun 🙌🏻👍🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻and at the end of the day hopefully still enough battery for the way home 🤣😉

@gmbn 2 года назад

Love it! Sounds like a sick day out (only if the battery lasts)! 😂

@albertmills9365 2 года назад

So English....having a cup of tea after shredding downhill :)

@JMJM75257 Год назад

They should do a diy bafang ebike build and compare it to all in one. it would be intresting to see which pulls ahead with power etc.

@Gwent575 2 года назад

I love my rise I needed a light enough bike so I could carry it up to my 3rd floor flat. I can carry this easy and feels so amazing on the trail. Still keeping my acoustic full suss tho. Great vid. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@Tooby789 Год назад

Ngl after a Month on my Patron 920 Eride bike, im Felling so good going up the and down mountains, even feeling more fit than before i guess its more motivating to

@wm05eb 2 года назад

Love the video! Be good to see you guys review the pole voima 190 travel front and back 👀

@chrisgenovese8188 2 года назад

wish my ebike had full sus, but i still send it down some decent trails. i would love that Orbea!

@scudy4 2 года назад

Can we get more cheap bike challenges? Like top gear, various different challenges and or events presenters have to do which they don't know about and they've got to guess the right bike for the job?

@Crayonz014 2 года назад

I’d love to try an ebike on a milder trail. I’m afraid that the assistance would push the speeds out of comfort zome

@GC16199 2 года назад

Moto cuts out at 25 kph so it doesn't scare you that much. And you still have brakes ;)

@stevecrump1375 2 года назад

Im building a DIY ebike... Can't wait to try it out on the hill's...👍

@eskopar 2 года назад

Agarro in the back, I think I should try it...

@jonnysnakes5417 2 года назад

The only downside ive really found with my eeb is there is a lot of really ridiculously steep trails in my area and once you drop in there is no stopping with the extra weight. Also im more comfortable trying a sketchy drop on a normal bike then come back with the eeb.

@DARRENTRANCE 2 года назад

My only issue with ebikes is the battery range as 90% of my rides are over 50 miles and can't justify buying an extra battery. Once they can do at least 80 miles then I'd be interested in an ebike. Good video though 👌 👍

@olik136 2 года назад

well it is not a car- you can just ride the remaining extra miles without assistance... besides that the range of the bosch system with the 750wh battery is quoted at 85 miles

@z33r0now3 2 года назад

I do 110km per 750 watt battery. And this is an enduro bike with knobblies

@mountainbiking8531 2 года назад

awesome man

@MrFlapstick Год назад

Most jumps you wanna be way quicker than 25kph to hit, so unless it’s steep eBikes suck for hitting jumps through the limiter, speed these guys are going these are just heavy bikes on the down

@9paraneil 2 года назад

I also ride a canyon torque on. However mine doesn't sale through the air like Neil's torque does. Maybe I'll get in touch with canyon about this 🤔.

@gmbn 2 года назад

Hmmmmmm 😂😉

@ToothlessJustin 2 года назад

Been considering an eBike since I got my big rig enduro but the pricing for the spec has always held me back. That said, seriously considering the Canyon Torque: ON this year as the full Fox factory setup with X01/RSC for under £6K is mighty tempting

@NeonxNomad 2 года назад

I got hit by a car on my ecotric super last week and its fine unlike myself.

@edgarsnezinu1439 2 года назад

Tom Cardy king of the e bikes

@markyp1965 Год назад

Almost seems like at least half the riders at trail centres like the FOD, are on ebikes now. Certainly, if you see a group of riders, they’re almost certainly all on them. I’m not in the market for one as of yet, but if I was, it would be one of the lighter (half fat) models.

@chaconWOOOOOO 2 года назад

Blake 🎉

@Merceralex77 4 месяца назад

Can hubmotor bikes do jumps?

@RobHill00 2 года назад

Dirt farm looks a lot like Black mountain?🤔 got a Kenevo SL with a few upgrades, factory 38, AXS X01, Hope tech 4-V4’s absolutely love it!🥰 on the limit of what you want to throw on an uplift at Bike park Wales etc ideally I would get another bike for that sort of stuff! But this bike does everything!👌🏻

@Reuben.43 8 месяцев назад

That’s because dirt farm is black mountain

@bmarsden10 2 года назад

It’s great to see the Orbea been chucked around like that. I’ve got a Rise M10 and it’s a great bike. Been to the bike park a few times, but never jumped it anything like this. Interesting to see that the wheels had been changed. One think that’s currently bothering me on my Rise is the wheels. They sometimes give the impression you’ve got a flat tyre as they squirm around. Did you change them because you didn’t think the stock ones were up to the task? What is the spec on the ones you are running?

@zlNerdmovies 2 года назад

I put the 27.5 rear Wheel out of my Trek in my M10 since i destroyed the rim of the original Wheel in the Bikepark. I think that happened when i rode down a ~80cm "root-drop" to flat and landed on a rock. I can tell you this rim really was f*cked, i dont think they are that robust.

@conrod4910 Год назад

Despite ridiculous hate for e-bikes from some ‘purists ‘ yawn…..as a guy with rapidly deteriorating knees and lower back I’m strongly considering an e-bike for my next purchase, I have to stay off the really rough stuff but can still enjoy a jump line or longer smoother trails. I’d rather enjoy a full day than dick measure on the way up. It was exactly the same conversation 20 years ago when full suspension came out, ‘all you need is a hard tail’ blah blah. It’s just another form of progression for those that want it surely?

@emilymarble1174 Год назад

After about 3 years the last Keurig stopped working ru-vid.comUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf initially was able to unblock, however eventually we couldn't fix. That one was a replacement unit sent by the manufacturer after we had problems with our very first Keurig. This works fine (lol, at least for now) however I didn't realize the water reservoir was so much smaller than our prior unit. With 2 people having one or two cups of coffee each morning, it seems like I'm refilling it daily. Otherwise just happy to have the convenience of pod coffee vs. making a morning pot.

@imududeplaynududedisguisedasa- 2 года назад

Wow, is there anything you guys can't do!? Incredible riding. You guys blow me away watching your videos. I don't think I'll never be as good as you guys.

@arronspuddylaird5357 2 года назад

E bikes do look much heavier but I bet there nice for climbing

@jamesridoni 2 года назад

I am thinking about a cross country e bike

@gummistreiterl 2 года назад

but how about hardtail e-bikes? :o

@ClaudeBohls 4 месяца назад

I would think that they would not last much of that abuse. My friend had a similar kit and it did perform but it started failing after 5 months. This was in Oklahoma on very rough and steep terrain. Not the candyassed groomed trails you blokes were rocking.

@danielcedolin2034 2 года назад

Still think you need to have fast Ebike lap round say Degla one E on the heavier Ebike then on the Sl see which is faster and which is more fun ??

@olik136 2 года назад

who cares which is faster?- you can't compete in the same class and for fun it doesn't matter

@RobertSchuster68 2 года назад

Wrong song! It should be „Jump around“ House of Pain Roswita agreed

@gmbn 2 года назад

Haha! Maybe you're right! 😂

@RobertSchuster68 2 года назад

@@gmbn just turn on the song with your loudest BassBox, and start watching your video again 😎😂😂 But be careful what’s around you, you might have to jump around 🙋🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️👍

@OverMotoren 2 года назад

Is there any future for non e?

@olik136 2 года назад

obviously- downhill racing doesn't need assistance; XC racing is about comparing fitness and for casual riding electric bikes are just too expensive to kill the normal bikes.

@DarcyFletchh 2 года назад

Ooh

@nito_gocni5460 2 года назад

I'm lazy enough and should never be allowed an e-bike. Maybe in 30 years when my knees are shot I'll consider one until then I'll keep pedaling

@bobothericefarmer1878 2 года назад

Their only a bit heavier and a bit harder to move but other than that they still feel like a normal mtb

@gmbn 2 года назад

We agree! Well put! 👊

@TheWeardale1 2 года назад

i love the way these bods alienate anyone over the age of 15 by the way they act...🤣😂🤣

@TheLelol 2 года назад

Why is there Ebike content on GMBN?

@gmbn 2 года назад

GMBN is for all bikes! 🙌

@franklee6301 2 года назад

All these clowns hating on ebikes have either never tried one or can't afford one and they're letting their jealousy show.

@readyboy61 2 года назад

My Evil custom dream build cost more than some e bikes, Ive had a go on an ebike, I will never own one!

@barriobarranco 2 года назад

Great to see the a-hole purists getting riled up.... doubt many of them know the input most of the GMBN guys have had on EMBN in the last few years, all brilliant....keep up the good work folks... Even Si Richardson did The Slab on an e-gravel bike- oh yes he was absolutely f***ed at the top but there's the proof that you still can get a massive workout but get up things all you "real" mountain biking gods out there could never even contemplate....

@reneocenas2543 2 года назад

👍

@GokkunGuru 2 года назад

No pedaling required. One less element to worry about. One less element to tire you out.

@olik136 2 года назад

so you have never ridden one then? you have to pedal- the motor only assist you. The versions with throttles are generally not allowed in the EU or are treated as motorbikes

@optimoespacio 2 года назад

😂 tell you what, you come up here to Scotland, I will rent out an e-bike for you and take you one one of my favourite rides, see how tired out you are by the end….

@mtblover 2 года назад

👌👍💥

@gmbn 2 года назад

🔥

@erinb4919 2 года назад

Why ebikes on gmbn? There is another channel for e motor bikes

@robertbransby 2 года назад

Boring 😴

@gmbn 2 года назад

Hey Erin! GMBN is for all bikes! E-bikes are allowed from time to time! 😅

@rule3036 2 года назад

Cycling Mtb or road is supposed to be about using your own power to get about. E bikes good for the old, infirm , obese I guess.

@Antidepressiva1980 Год назад

lol, haters gonna hate. go eat some dirt

@Kuimera 2 года назад

just get on a motorcycle and get over it..

@gmbn 2 года назад

🙁

@Kuimera 2 года назад

@@gmbn I don't like how this is going... for me is like putting a motor on a surfboard.. MTB is losing it's natural thing.. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I feel about e-bikes.

@optimoespacio 2 года назад

But they are completely different things?….

@smoothisfast6644 2 года назад

I think E- bikes are gonna kill themselves. They will get better and more powerful until a ministry of transport or department of transportation classifies them as a motorcycle. Or at least up to a certain power level.

@olik136 2 года назад

all the e-bikes you see here or on EMBN are actually pedelecs- depending on the country (but similar in most EU countries) they are regulated to 250w output and may only assist your manual input (no throttle). Only the torque and responsiveness differs. Those rules got updated from the existing laws for gas-engine assisted bicycles. The only think killing e-bikes at the moment is the prize- they have come close to actual motorbikes...

@gknb7796 2 года назад

i love the videos but i like men better

@Velo1010 2 года назад

I call them chEater bikes. Let’s face it what fun is it if you’re getting assistance up a hill. That’s part of the experience.

@robertbransby 2 года назад

People still using that old chestnut 😂

@gmbn 2 года назад

Riding uphill is all part of the experience, but e-bikes are great for blasting up hills! 😉

@olik136 2 года назад

imagine not hating your life for at least half of every trip...

@optimoespacio 2 года назад

What fun is it getting assistance up the hill? Have you not seen the grin on peoples faces as they power uphill?

@ColinBoswell-wo9vm 2 месяца назад

Just wait until your 60+ and you will realise how much difference they make to the experience.

@em8452 2 года назад

If I had an E-bike something would be terribly wrong. Please leave those monstrosities on EMBN.

@Antidepressiva1980 Год назад

hey cheapskate, go eat some dirt :P

@g.w.customcreations3534 2 года назад

Good video, but I'd rather p1ss on an electric fence than get an ebike. If I want a powered bike, there's 150bhp in the garage. I may be a bit old n fat, but I'd rather earn my stripes then buy em.

@barriobarranco 2 года назад

Yawn.... said everyone who has never even been on one.... what walking boots do you use for your "Real" biking? Scarpa or Berghaus?? 😂

@Antidepressiva1980 Год назад

@@barriobarranco haha, good point :)

@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK Год назад

Jus goes to show the extra weight means virtually NOTHING! For Gods sake a Motocross bike weighs 250 lbs they dont seem to have ANY issue getting air. I say get the Ebike with the fastest motor that way u can rip thru trails, hit jumps like dirt bikes and get back up the hill as fast as possible.

@fpainchaud350 2 года назад

I am thinking that my next bike will be a bike. Probably a light powered one like the Treck Fuel Xe or the transition with the Fazua...

@mr.facker9131 2 года назад

Are they using cleats?

@dominikgarbauer6883 2 года назад

From the looks of it, no. Looks like normal flat pedals. Also they're doing one-footers which you wouldn't really be able to do with clipless pedals.

@gmbn 2 года назад

Blake and Neil were running flats in this video. 👍

@bomullerhansen6086 Час назад

Hi, what fork is on the rise? Fox 34 140mm right?

@JasonFoxLCB 2 года назад

Would love to try or just roll the dice and buy a Rise. My legs have always been my biggest weakness that exercise can only help so much (due to a couple physiological issues). Just turned 50 (and got a hopper ramp as a gift), so why not?

@dthree4113 2 года назад

Do it! I just got the Rise a month ago and I've done more trail miles since then thanI had in the previous 12 months on my regular MTB.

@JasonFoxLCB 2 года назад

@@dthree4113 If I had the $$$ I'd do it in a heartbeat. Been a summer of finally doing long-delayed house projects. And, of course, I can blame my kids for insisting on food and shelter. Good to hear you dig it, though. I've only seen reviews on here to go by.