How HoloEN's Myth Took Over the World 

that's right. Ina, Calli and Ame have also said that Kiara is the heart of Holomyth.

@@Exitblade I agree. Was gonna say Kiara is the heart of holomyth until I saw your post

i couldnt agree more . at first i was as crazy for senzawa as everyone else , but that cooled as i watched more of their colabs. now im tied on liking ina and kiara best .

I don't feel ame is the leader. I don't even watch her.

Here's how i see them Ame is the leader, one who makes the path Kiara is the heart, one who kept them together and stronger Calli is the diplomat, the one who went a rampage across the platform with all sorts of projects Ina is the watcher, the one who keep (the seiso if there even is one) watch over the other girls Gura is the fool, the one who brings the sun in a lot of unexpected and funny ways

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hey King RS, ya dropped ya crown

@@DepressedNousagi The comment above is true. Thank you very much for your hard work and research.

When you are drunk you become truthful and analytical 😂

alcohol is how nousagis get over all the warcrimes pekora commits.

I think the fact that she only just is a detective further elevates his point of Amelia feeling like she's the main character/leader of the group because of how normal she is compared to the rest of Myth too. Edit: Not normal 'normal'(because honestly shes the weirdest in the group) but in terms of design and lore

Holy fuck. She went back in time to change most of the fanbase's memories.

Watson lore it seal after one story certain Ceo ask detective to stop the purple dragon from leave..

Didnt she have the clock gear hairpin/monocle from the start?

@@captain0080 the clock is one of the attributes of a detective. It just so happens it also works as a time traveler thing.

Honestly, 2019 Senzawa set the blueprint of what an EN Twitch vtuber is, looks like, and acts like, to this day.

Hasn't it been established that "Senzawa" is still with us, but as another personification?

Imagine walking away from a 1mil sub channel. Oh well, I'm sure she can do it again. Probably four times by now; five before 2022 is out.

@@Battlemage15 Senzawa - want me to Triple it in just a short time?

@@yohannbiimu well, that's what the OP comment said, "in the vast ocean" is the keyword here

Couldn’t have said it better myself. All of the HoloEN girls are absolutely golden and iconic, and I seriously cannot fathom anyone else being in each of their roles. It’s why I wonder if when they audition, do they get to pick what character they audition for, or is it just a general audition and then Cover decides what role would fit each passing applicant best?

@@chanlaman2565 whatever the case is cover rivals botan's shooting accuracy when it comes to casting because they dont miss at all, not just holomyth but any of the girls i draw a blank even trying to imagine anyone else in the role, can you imagine someone other than watame playing watame? its so inconceivably alien that its impossible to imagine, i cant say that in full confidence with the other vtuber agencies, whatever hololives casting group is like or their processes are for deciding characters since at least according to the holomyth girls the characters are made ahead of time and small alterations can be requested but theyre mostly set in stone aside from little details, they are doing an incredible job making the magic happen.

@@Akaryusan I feel that in order for this to work, they need to pick the perfect tailored personality for the character and do alot of changes for them to even fit, its nuts how much the character fits perfectly with the person behind, the main problem here is that they make them bounce from each other in all aspect you can imagine, this is good when you see a collab of 5 of that gen, but cut 1 person and they feel incomplete, a good example is Gen 3, Gen 4 and Gen 5. You know that something is missing there, and its not because we know what we had before, its the same vibe as watching Full Metal Classic, its good but you feel something is missing there, you don't know what but you kno something is missing, then you watch FMA Brotherhood, and everything makes sense now

@@tribopower their casting and whatever process they go through in idol bootcamp to forge bonds between the girls before debuting is covers greatest strength but also it makes it that much more painful when someone leaves especially on bad terms like aloe and rushia. but when someone leaves on good terms like coco its nothing short of amazing.

coco once said that myth are overqualified person in general.

It is a demonstration of her complete dominance. One letter is all she needs

So its the same type of stand as Markiplier

@@xshadowx32hd66 E

@@kazedcat Rip Omega lul.

@@kazedcat makes me appreciate even more the fact she has only one letter emote. "One letter is all I need", indeed

Indeed new fan maybe not know why hololive so popular, but for old fanbase they know the quality of vtuber itself. Heck even Subaru and Matsuri say they lucky.. But eyes of Ceo can't be underestimate

That might be true. However, there's one exception to that statement. That is Amelia, the one who's supposed to be the "leader" of the group. You see, when they debuted and I delve into their background life, I'm concerned about her. Why would Cover pick some no name alongside the other much more succesful one? Wouldn't they outshine her and put an unnecessary burden on her? Well, right now I must say that these are foolish thoughts. She act her part, and carve her place alongside her more succesful genmates. Whoever gave her the greenlight at Hololive and gave her backstory should really get a massive raise.

@@kungkungz1321 I took Amelia as the missing part of the puzzle when it came to garnering an EN audience. Her original streams showed a ton of creativity with the gameshows she ran among other things. She is also the only HoloEN member to have a background in more FPS games than just random Apex collabs. If you wanted to grab a Botan share of the possible EN fanbase you needed both of those attributes.

@@kungkungz1321 To put some contrast into your argument, she was far from a media juggernaut of some degree like her peers, yes, but her track record was very solid nonetheless. Due to experience on the field given the fact that she is a pioneer and one of the EN vtuber scene's very first content creators, one that helped to build the community, pushing the creative boundaries on her own for a long time and departed as an albeit niche but hugely respected and inspiring figure. Cover took a gamble given her audience reach, sure, but the call had its merits.

@@Gatherbro If it weren't for Ame's creativity in her debut, I wouldn't have fell down the rabbit hole. Which is why I always say that Ame's the one who pushed me down. Seriously, the creativity of this girl is just *chef's kiss*

From applebees to applebitches, huh.

Facts

Also that Calli booty, apparently stank good. I'm not complaining but it's a weird compliment.

i also really like how, at debut, she said she isnt confident in her singing, just rapping, and would rather not sing in karaoke etc. And then now she did the MV song, and got so so much better at singing

@@od_static end of a life is the perfect combination of her previous talent and her newly acquired singing abilities

Bruh, I forgot about how that remix contest was a pretty important moment. Calli hosting that also helped me to discover some other vtubers (BOOGEY VOXX and Ririsya) that I have come to love for their musical talent.

Alot come into place so perfectly, Gura already massive followage and shenenigans from before (no matter how you look at it, she was a veteran even before joining holo) Ame with her insane ideas, memes and gremlim personality, the chill and talented Ina, the rock left bottom hype talented Kiara... and then Calli oof, It was just to much

@@tribopower Fr, it's almost unfair just how good of a team these girls make xD Cuz not only are they all good individually, but when they come together, things just get fucking crazy, even despite some set-backs, like that early Country Roads cover, while not absolutely horrible, most of the girls were not exactly happy with the outcome, and it was actually part of the reason why it took them almost a whole year to finally make another group song. But that was sort a a blessing in disguise, cuz at the end they realized, that they could actually do pretty much all of the work within their own group, instead of having to outsource any of it xD

@@spaghettisan I too found Riri through Calli's contest And now I consistently watch Riri's singing streams

Speaking of the girls bringing in people from different groups, Ina brought the attention of a lot of artists in the industry and inspires more people to get good at art too

I only remember the Minecraft hololive one. And how it keep joking about meet calli.

Now i remember, that's a video in foodxfood channel

Ahhh I remember that clip as well although at the time, I was already subbed to Tenchou but was just an occasional viewer. It really bumped her up as my oshi & I started watching more of her. I think what makes vtubers really special is that you can see the realest kindest people even behind these 2D avatars. Another one of my favorites for example is Ame when she talked about how losing someone close to her made her feel like she lost her purpose. But then said "I hope you carve out your own little happy place in the world. Everybody's success looks different. It may not look like mine or somebody else's but there's always something that'll make you happy." Until now, when I feel down, I just remember that or rewatch that clip. That clip from Ame and Kiara's "think of yourself as phoenix" with her always reminding that everybody deserves a chance and knowing what she's been through before Hololive, these motivate me to keep on living & doing my best. It may seem silly to some, hinging that much weight to virtual anime streamers who play games and make jokes but HoloMyth really helped me up when I was at my lowest, and even when they're gone, they'll always have a special place in my heart. Especially Tenchou who is the best boss in the world 🧡

Tenchou is really my all time Oshi too

Reminds me of that Gura tweet that saved a viewer from suicide. Look for the clip , i don't know it but should be able to find it.

Let's not forget that this is a Japanese company as well. Japanese culture is very different than that of most English speaking countries. So not only did they find 5 talents who are so good they changed the internet forever. They did so while correctly taking into account western cultural differences. They didn't ask "what would Japanese people want to see" and then just do that in English. They asked "what does the world want to see" and became one of the few groups in history to get a correct answer.

Apparently, Coco had a hand in the screening process. This is why everyone in HoloMyth really looks up to her

Coco really is HoloEN's own Tokino Sora. The girls' dream would not be possible without Coco championing for the EN branch.

I'd also like to point out that Hololive was actually relatively progressive for letting them do that in the first place. A lot of bigger companies would've just been, "No, that clearly doesn't fit with our brand, you can't do that." Hololive, as a company, has been really good about letting fan creations become a part of their culture without causing issues or worrying too much.

Selen also replied to Ame after she did her charity stream, saying she was inspired to do a charity stream herself

@@dcresistance I think it was Finana and Elira that replied to her

@@georgegera2799 yeah, iirc selen hadn't debuted yet, i would have to check the dates tho

@@TubeTAG what's good is that they are now given full autonomy in projects so they pretty much doesnt need approval from cover to do their own stuff. This is great since they can bring out their creative ideas without worrying if it gets green lit....

gura has a magical talent of making even her mistakes be meaningful and incredibly well times, even though can tell they aren't preplanned. her jinx ability is increible

Don’t get me wrong I love hololive but not everyone cares about stuff like this it’s weird to them but I love it!! Well I love “Them” ! 💜

as french, i agree with all your comment.

I think it comes down to the girls not trying to replicate Japanese anime character voices or be cutesy and just speaking like themselves. A lot of anime dubs are trying to copy a voice and speaking style (including like the actual script) that just doesn't work in English and end up sounding weird. Whereas good EN vtubers are using voices and playing characters that are suited for the language they're speaking instead of trying to copy an archetype that only works in Japanese. One of the only EN anime dubs I like better than the original is Black Lagoon because its the opposite almost, the Japanese dub was trying to portray a certain western character archetype that just doesn't work well in Japanese, while the English dub team understood what the characters would actually speak like and scripted it appropriately.

@@soasertsus Another funny example here is Space Dandy, where the EN dub was actually recorded and released before the JP dub xD

This is very true for a variety of dubs. It's a problem in two ways. One, casting of Anime is shit. it's a very insular industry and unfortunately the JP side of the anime industry doesn't do enough to take control of the EN dubs and translators leading to bad representations of their work. There's also the aspect of the dubs having to fit what they say into the mouth movements of Japanese speaking characters.

@@rs.matr1x It's not really about the quality of casting. The biggest problem if you look into it is Japan has a culture of VAs, if you look there's dozens of voice acting schools in Tokyo ALONE. While in the entirety of the USA, there are only 2 colleges that focus on voice acting training. How are you supposed to find quality VAs when the industry doesn't produce any? I think that's the biggest problem facing English anime dubs.

Oh. I'm die. Thank you forever. Gah hah ha!

Imo Kiara is the heart of EN Ame is more the brains of EN

@@sarethdarva she's said before that she'll always be streaming no matter what happens since it's something she loves doing. So she'll probably go indie if she graduates

@@punpunpunyama9271 Would be great as both entertainer and manager since much of the appeal is the research and experimentation involved.

@@Aereto yet another reason that the comparison between her and coco is so accurate!

Honestly HoloEN reignited my spark of content creator binge after HoloEN I started to enjoy more and more normal creator's

I do agree that the holomyth were really trying too hard back when they first debuted with the exception of ame. She's been kinda wacky from the very beginning and that doesn't change. Everyone else? Gura and ina seems a bit too shy, kiara try to be way too hyper, calli? I dunno, she's a bit cringy in the beginning.

well its not a secret anymore

Now this is some experience that I can personally relate to 👀

Wow i kind of agree, i really found calli trying to act cutesy and moe at first and after watching watson, which in turn just so weird and big brain debut, i noticed the change in the other four, its like ame opened their eyes to just be their own selves and it worked out so well, especially Calli. Shes now the 2nd most subscribed in Myth next to Gura i think.

Was there in #Coexist arc was a weird time for me to Listened to Asmr for 10 minutes fell asleep, woke up in Haachama's Stream exactly at the time she was beheading Haato. Quite a ride tbh

Which 2?

The had two that were already announced before HoloX that were confirmed to be discarded a few days before they dropped the gen 6 trailer

Ah yea i remember that just the proof that in hololive you need real talent

@@primaster9360 oh okay, is it possible to look at those anywhere still

@@EmyrTyrn It's internal secret stuff. Leaks like that have severe consequences to internal stuff that the CEO cannot intervene. We lost one from that kind of leak.

You get that vibe because there is an FGO artist that work on one of these.

@@gilgameshlfx7006 quite a few, in fact. which is still awesome to think about!

@@aderpyturt yep, Kiara, Ina, Kronii, Bae and Sana have all had artists who've worked on servants, several others have done CE art in the game as well. Funny thing is if 'Watson' did ever become a servant, I could easily imagine them making him a spunky young girl like Ame.

I think this is often overlooked. China used to be big, established market for Hololive before the CN drama. Even though the CN branch itself wasn't doing well, Hololive JP was popular in China, especially Fubuki and Aqua. After all, Fubuki hit her first 1 million milestone in bilibili the summer of 2020, well before her 1mil milestone on youtube. They also had decently large sponsorships from games like Azur Lane. And I think one of Aqua's first solo lives was a bilibili collab and she also had unreleased music that was part of a promotion for a Chinese game company (can't remember which) that leaked when the drama was going down, and one of Aqua's appearances in one of her colleagues' (in Nijisanji maybe?) concert was canceled. The loss of potential revenue and opportunities was probably significant (at the time at least). But I guess its a moot point now that the Chinese government has clamped down so hard on the vtuber industry and gaming in general. So in a way Yagoo was ahead of the curve, though its a shame they can't play games like Genshin Impact. Another thing some old fans forget and newer fans don't know is that a lot of Chinese Hololive memes were spread and translated into English and posted on youtube, and was a big part in the early spread of Hololive content among the English speaking sphere while the english vtuber scene was in its infancy. People might try to downplay the influence or value of the Chinese market in early Hololive's success but that just goes to show you how monumentally successful and impactful Hololive Myth was. It overtook the conversation. It eventually lead Nijisanji to completely change focus, to point that they've effectively ended one branch and put two other branches on life support in pursuit to get a piece of what Hololive has/had (to good success recently since they finally outmaneuvered Cover in terms of male talent). Holo EN really changed the game. There is a non-zero chance that Cover wouldn't have weathered the China storm if Myth didn't explode on debut. Not only did Hololive EN multiply the English V-tuber audience, they ironically brought in more JP fans to Hololive who I think were fascinated by Western "idol" talent hand-picked by a Japanese company (not just the fact that they were english Vtubers), which is a relatively unexplored niche. This all combined to eclipsed the bilibili audience. And I have no exact proof of this, but I speculate that a lot of those new JP fans got absorbed into the rest of the Hololive ecosystem and started watching the JP talents, considering how HoloJP had exponential growth leading into 2021, while Nijisanji's JP branch had modest growth in that time.

I think they would have eventually needed to pull out of China tho. Too much bs to keep up with with all their regulations and shit that NEED to be as their supreme leader says or go with his agenda.

@@Suzushiirou Coco and Haato are practically off the ballpark types of talents since they focus on experimenting aspects, which unfortunately has the side effect of the CN incident. Amelia Watson is likely the one to represent the R&D of the EN branch due to influence of drawing in creative talents with her own means of developing the 3D environment with company approval. The Walfie models are a nice touch to note out how talents are proven before they ended up in larger projects.

Honestly all of them contributed a ton. Like i find that kiara isnt as talked about as much when attributing to success but i remember that back in the earlier days, Kiara would often carry the full collabs hard. She has always been a good host and was instrumental in selling Myth as a whole unit/generation instead of being just a group of girls who got employed at the same time

@@pinkyd2657 Kiara can put together massive collabs and is the exact bridging point connecting En to Jp with Holotalks and more. This allowed everyone to get boosted across Hololive. Also, her music is FIRE just like Calli's!

@@pinkyd2657 I agree. Gura is by far the most successful, but the group as a whole contributed to just how massive HoloEn got. Putting it all on Gura would put less attention on the hard work the rest of her gen mates did in creating their own communities

To be honest, i see kiara as the one who recieved the baton from a certain dragon

It's the interaction that is the charm imo, gura being the bait and meme factory, calli with the music, kiara for the fun vibes, ina when you want to rest and ame for the new gadgets and group fun.

Coco being Prometheus fits doubly since she was chained to a rock shortly after their debut.

The fact that everyone on myth got to 1mil subs too

@@kaichoudp3139 First gen in Hololive to have all members past 1 million, and they all earned it in under a year. Kind of crazy.

@@wisdumcube the hype help alot Add those doubters turn to fans And finally being able to understand coz of the universal language En (Plus all the talent and effort they put into just to entertain us)

@@kaichoudp3139 Makes me wonder if Council had a chance if youtube didn't purge their accounts of subs twice. Kronii was growing exponentially like Gura before it happened. And youtube also changed the algorithm to favor short content again to compete with tiktok. It still hurts to think about the potential that might've been wasted.

Hehe boi

Why

Yes, yes, I can't agree more. Myth has a great dynamic and chemistry with all their members. Something that only 3rd gen and maybe 5th gen has in all the generations of Hololive. You can pair up any two members and you'll have gold I think it was Calli who said that they didn't really have anyone to guide or help them when they debuted because there was a large gap between them & the JP branch. It made things very difficult for them I'm sure but this undoubtedly brought them closer together as a group. And that's beautiful ❤

"Gura being the Cutesy Dumbass that she is, took the form of a Loli Shark Girl." 6:41

So true

"That's a voice I have not heard for a long time. It brings tears."