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How I Fixed My Surfskate Pump, Stance, & Posture 

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Link to Shane Lai's RU-vid Channel: / @shanelai2515
Link to Chris Mills' Surfskate Training Program: surfstrengthcoach.com/program...
Link to Kale Brock's Surfskate Training Program:
surfersroadmap.teachable.com/...
In my first surfskate pumping tutorial ( • How to Pump on a Surfs... ) you'll see that, from a technical surfing standpoint, my technique could use some improvement.
In this video, I demonstrate how I fixed my surfskate pumping, stance, and posture. This surfskate pumping tutorial will make you more efficient on a surfskate and help you have more fun on a surfskate!
VIDEO TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Surfskate Pumping Tutorial Intro
02:06 Surfskate Pumping Principle: Skate Forward with Your Arms Forward
02:36 The Proper Stance on a Surfskate
03:20 How Your Surfskate Stance Affects Your Knee Bend
03:57 Shifting the Hips and Shoulders to Face Forward
04:54 How to Use Your Arms to Pump on a Surfskate
07:10 How Your Back Arm Affects Your Balance
08:03 Using Proper Compression and Extension to Pump a Surfskate
09:58 The Circle Arms Technique
12:06 Adding Shoulders to the Surfskate Pump
13:20 The Shovel Technique
14:37 The Infinity Sign Technique
16:20 Involving the Hips in a Surfskate Pump
17:38 Angling the Shoulders
18:40 How to Steer on a Surfskate
19:56 Putting it All Together
The surfskates used in this video to teach how to pump on a surfskate are:
1. Custom set-up that includes:
Soulboardiy Revolution Adam Surfskate Deck: soulboardiy.com/revolution/
YOW Meraki Surfskate Trucks: yowsurf.com/yowsurf/yow-merak...
Seismic 66mm 79A Hot Spots Wheels (Plum): seismicskate.com/product/66mm...
Tekton Steel Bearings
2. YOW Malibu 36" with S5 trucks: yowsurf.com/yowsurf/yow-malib...
3. YOW Pukas Dark 34.5" with Meraki Trucks: yowsurf.com/yowsurf/yow-pukas...
Learn more about surfskating, learn how to surfskate, and choose your surfskate at Surfskate Love: www.surfskate.love
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Комментарии : 252   
@ChristopherThompson1980
@ChristopherThompson1980 3 года назад
Your best video yet. The time you've spent on research and instructionals really shows through. Having that experience distilled into some pointers and exercises that I can keep in mind for my next outing is really helpful. Thanks a ton!
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Thanks so much, man! I really appreciate that. Glad you find it helpful.
@smeeagain-3199
@smeeagain-3199 3 года назад
Another great instructional. It takes courage to revisit and point out where the technique in previous videos could be improved on. Respect where it's due! 👍
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Thank you! I have no pride. Just learning and having fun!
@gwencapistran2981
@gwencapistran2981 3 года назад
Finally the video I've been searching for! You truly break everything down from stance and weight, to body posture and movements! A real coach! Can't wait to try these techniques! Thank you!
@shelleycrowther
@shelleycrowther 3 года назад
It's a small comment in the video but leaning your back knee where you want to go (on turns) added a lot of stability to my turns. Solid video
@bradensteiner3950
@bradensteiner3950 2 года назад
Wow, awesome video guys! Steve and Liberty, you guys did awesome!
@Labuenavidasurf
@Labuenavidasurf 3 года назад
Wow the progress of these guys from total beginners. Awesome lesson! Great teacher.
@JFKaufmann
@JFKaufmann 3 года назад
Fantastic tutorial Steve! The feet stance opens up a whole new motion of the body. Thanks for sharing your surf skate voyage with us.
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Thank you! And I'm having fun!
@YudiIiIiIiIiIiIiiIililili
@YudiIiIiIiIiIiIiiIililili 2 года назад
Honestly I've tried all tips and tricks from other videos but this one was definitely the most effective and dynamic!! Keep going mate, love your passion, we share it with you
@jordannascimento4443
@jordannascimento4443 16 дней назад
I'm from Brazil, and I'm learning from your videos, congratulations.
@fitforfreelance
@fitforfreelance 2 года назад
Can't wait to try these tips!
@patrickchamberlain3980
@patrickchamberlain3980 8 месяцев назад
Shane Lai and Kale Brock are excellent recommendations. I've learned a lot from their videos. This is great too, it's so easy to relate to. I see myself in these guys so much
@tuedtuez
@tuedtuez 3 года назад
Respect from Thailand. Thank you for great lessons.
@nazadasilva233
@nazadasilva233 3 года назад
Det26
@cookiesfamily9866
@cookiesfamily9866 3 года назад
+1
@otagon911
@otagon911 3 года назад
Definitely going to put this in action as soon as possible. Great video.
@barryrobertriela
@barryrobertriela 3 года назад
Needed this being that I just started, thanks for another great video!
@clintonkeeler4801
@clintonkeeler4801 2 года назад
Excellent video!! Thanks for speeding up my learning curve and correcting my technique. Legend!!
@Fabianosj
@Fabianosj 2 года назад
Perfeito instructional video!!! I love it.
@nvisser3150
@nvisser3150 Год назад
Just got into this fantastic sport, and this tutorial really got me the feeling thx so much for breaking this down so clearly.. i really progressed greatly due to this tutorial.. thx again..
@tulpa1940
@tulpa1940 2 года назад
Got my first board, a slide, in today. Your videos are soooo helpful.
@alaindeloin7036
@alaindeloin7036 2 года назад
That's a very good video dude, thank you for all these informations !
@AWSMEAD
@AWSMEAD 2 года назад
Very helpful vid. Riding with my feet at an angle has really helped me getting low on the board for long straight lines at speed particularly being quite tall. I have also found that Surfskating has really improved my balance/control for surfing and drop Knee bodyboarding. Loving it .
@BLAKE99msu
@BLAKE99msu 2 года назад
This is awesome. I've been struggling to find the right flow and these were super helpful tips!
@AdventuresInSkateboarding
@AdventuresInSkateboarding 2 года назад
I am late to the surfskate part. Appreciate you sharing your lessons learned. I just made a surf skate video and a lot of your awesome subscribers mentioned your channel to me to offer assistance. Very cool of them. Your community has some rad people in it.
@AlwaysHappy494
@AlwaysHappy494 3 года назад
Steve, Thanks again for all your wonderful videos. I am enjoying them like crazy. Just started and watching videos. Yours are the best for me. They are helping me a lot. Good day..
@TheBentSpork
@TheBentSpork 3 года назад
Thanks! I watched the Brock and Mills introductory videos couple months ago repeatedly and never quite got it. Your last video--even if due to oversimplification--quickly made SS fun finally. And thanks for the posture clarifications here, and taking the time to study and break it down for us. I'm excited to try it outside. I'm definitely sticking with this (and might even try the Brock and Mills programs now have a promising foundation)
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Great to hear!
@1ajdelacruz
@1ajdelacruz Год назад
great video - thanks for sharing - it made a lot of sense
@lemin0202
@lemin0202 5 месяцев назад
My first wonderful, handsome, super talented teacher 🔥🔥🔥 From Vietnamese student - where this subject is not really known to many people!!! Love it ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥
@rickycat8241
@rickycat8241 2 года назад
Simply one of the most useful videos on yt and I still haven't seen it all!!!
@jayphive2468
@jayphive2468 Год назад
Dude, I watched this video and a few of your others, then went and bought a board. I accidentally ran into surf skate videos after looking for videos on longboard wheels which actually turned out to be a surfskate wheel. The best accident ever! I was able to pump all around a parking lot first time on my carver cx thanks to this video breakdown.
@michaelangeloshortis2970
@michaelangeloshortis2970 2 года назад
Fantastic tutorial. Thank you so much. Really appreciate your teaching approach.
@maxpfi9137
@maxpfi9137 3 года назад
Awesome learning videos, thank you!
@nancyqiu5419
@nancyqiu5419 2 года назад
Can’t wait to practise!
@daniel-anez
@daniel-anez 2 года назад
OH man! This video is amazing! I'm going to have to watch it again.... 20 times!!
@JahCoMusic
@JahCoMusic 10 месяцев назад
Okay, I will shut up after this comment😂… I commented on a couple of your previous videos. I saw a number of potential fixes, but I mostly commented on the lack of instruction on generating power backside (heel edge). I was about to recommend watching Kale Brock and Cris Mills, so I’m super glad you tapped into them on your own . They are both great. Kale really describes the generation of backside speed well with the “digging with a shovel” technique. Yes, the surfing technique will make you look way better which may not matter at all, but it will certainly improve your overall surfskate ability too and that should not be underestimated. it also will be more transferrable to other board sports. Glad to see you spreading the word of Kale and Cris. I also love OMBE, most of his tutorials are for surfing, but he uses surfskate training a lot, very helpful.
@KC-iw9ue
@KC-iw9ue 3 года назад
One of the best Surfskate teaching video, Thank.
@asher2865
@asher2865 2 года назад
Dude I got to thank you a lot! I tried just the first tip about forward posture and something in my hip/knee clicked correctly! I've been having some issues with pain in these areas but just as I shifted my stance forward it felt like I've been even walking wrong! Thanks m8!
@lunarisalpha
@lunarisalpha 2 года назад
Gold medal for surfskate tutorial!!! Cheers from Italy!
@davidcondes
@davidcondes 3 года назад
I'm just a begginer, starting from zero today, so I'm gonna try to put all this into practice. Thanks.
@nottherealmccoy4955
@nottherealmccoy4955 3 года назад
Wow, so much information, instruction & knowledge in one video, SUBSCRIBED!!! I'm 66, only had my surf skate one week, & having so much fun but so much to learn! You look so efficient when you skate, every scrap of energy is propelling you forward! Love how stoked you are too! :)
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Thanks so much! Glad you find it helpful.
@AlwaysHappy494
@AlwaysHappy494 3 года назад
Same here. I am 65 y.y. lady in Calgary, Canada. I love the way Steve explains everything. I Thank S.S. for giving us the opportunity of enjoying life.
@nottherealmccoy4955
@nottherealmccoy4955 3 года назад
@@AlwaysHappy494 Haha, we are of similar vintage!!What board do you ride? :)
@Naan_Chonlachart
@Naan_Chonlachart 3 года назад
"MUST WATCH" video, I like the way you teach! it helps me to image and feel the movement while watching even I was at my dining table.
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
This makes me happy to hear! Thanks so much for sharing!
@markbollen431
@markbollen431 3 года назад
Great video buddy! It helps, as I started to do during the lock down and simply love it!
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Thanks, Mark! Much appreciated.
@bronsondylankidd9496
@bronsondylankidd9496 2 года назад
"Coffee Cup Arm" love it! Great tip. Awesome 🤙
@michaell8002
@michaell8002 3 года назад
I use the Kale Brock. It's great. Great vid🤙
@norbertobaturonegil297
@norbertobaturonegil297 3 года назад
Congratulations, Steve! Great improvement.
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Thanks, man! 👊
@somp.24
@somp.24 3 года назад
Great tutorial! I will try tomorrow
@Martjevdwielen
@Martjevdwielen 3 года назад
Very helpful, thank you 🙏
@SkaterDeeVlog
@SkaterDeeVlog 3 года назад
Great video! You’re a natural teacher. I’ve been surf skating for about a year and a half and find myself still learning better, more efficient ways to gain momentum and proper technique. For example, I just tried applying the techniques you showed in this video to my own and found carving on turns to be much easier, and I have more confidence going into them when I position my arms the way you show here. I think a large part of it is pulling your center of gravity closer to your body to spin faster, like a figure skater. Wide arms = slow spin. Narrow arms = fast spin. It allows you to carve in a smaller space for faster turn arounds. Arm placement is so important! However, I do like to put my arm back just to change things up (and because it feels good... like cutting through the wind when coasting). Always be learning!
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Yes, I've been surprised by how much arms influence balance. I play around with it a lot.
@sarawootdamkerngsuntorn2669
@sarawootdamkerngsuntorn2669 3 года назад
Thanks for this tutorial from Thailand 🇹🇭
@pazon29
@pazon29 3 года назад
Love it ,Master
@LaDaAndKyn
@LaDaAndKyn 3 года назад
Great tutorial Teacher. Thank you.
@alberu
@alberu 3 года назад
Very very useful stuff. Thank very much. More technique videos please.
@crackin2000
@crackin2000 3 года назад
I'm about to try these Love the coffee cup idea.
@EkapolTharasiriroj
@EkapolTharasiriroj 3 года назад
Great tutorial. I notice your body looks more like a surfer too. Surf skate is really a full body workout.
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Yep! Amazing exercise. I haven't been to the gym in months. I just skate an hour or two a day. 😀
@ColindeSilva
@ColindeSilva Год назад
In carving snowboarding, you hear the terms "plus" and "minus" position, relating to position of shoulders to board when looking down from above. So when you are doing a toe-side turn, you are in minus position (shoulders in line with board) and when doing a heel-side turn, you are in plus position (shoulders perpendicular to board), the twist thus induced, combined with the correctly timed knee bend, helping to set up the edge for carving.
@eduamendola
@eduamendola 3 года назад
Well done! Fantastic job as usual :)
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Eduardo, my friend, you’re the one who prompted my progress and this video! Thanks so much!
@mateusz.nester
@mateusz.nester Год назад
Thank you for this video🤝🙂
@fdevlin5932
@fdevlin5932 3 года назад
Huge improvement in performance and style, fantastic tutorial 10/10 !
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Thank you! Much appreciated.
@LGLucid
@LGLucid 3 года назад
Many thanks for these great videos, Steve. I haven't ridden a skateboard in years, but you inspired me to pick one up. The market is super tough right now, but I was able to import a Slide Gussie from Europe. Can't wait to get my hands on it and spend this summer learning how to surfskate~
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
This makes me so happy to hear! Every time I convert someone to surfskating, an angel gets its wings. 😁 You’ll love that Slide! Keep me posted on how it goes.
@okanmeable
@okanmeable 3 года назад
This is an amazing tutorial, I subscribed after watching you VDO and I’ve been practicing follow your tips. Btw. I’m a beginner. This is helping me a lot from zero and still counting 😘 much love from Bangkok
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Great to hear, Nicky! Check out surfskatingfornonsurfers.com
@maiky7827
@maiky7827 3 года назад
This is fantastic. I used compression and extensions methods technique from you but most of thai tutorial will tell you that its mainly upper body movement which like you said it works but it’s not efficient.
@Tg28969
@Tg28969 3 года назад
Hello Professor, Very good teaching demonstration, easy to understand and very useful. I will try to practice as good as Training Program. Thanks you so much, from Thailand.
@mauricem.9014
@mauricem.9014 3 года назад
Love it! Thank you so much again and again. 🙏👍👍
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
You're so welcome! Thank you!
@surfonland3402
@surfonland3402 3 года назад
Very interesting videos steve.... Very helpful and informative... 👍
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Great to hear! Thank you!
@IntuitiveReview
@IntuitiveReview 3 года назад
this is awesome, thanks so much for this!
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Thank you! You're welcome!
@alejandromoran8841
@alejandromoran8841 3 года назад
Bravo¡¡¡¡¡ you made a perfect compilation about the perfect satnce on a surfskate board. thanks for sharing GO on¡
@Monoed
@Monoed 3 года назад
I’ve been using my surfskate loads to improve my forward facing drive and compression for surfing. 1 thing to work on outside of skate/surf is ankle strength and mobility so you can keep the back foot square and roll it over rather than turning foot forward. Lots of 1 footed kettle bell squats and pass across body as well as waking on an indoboard roller or pvc pipe. Think even Chris mills has a vid on pvc pipe balancing etc. Loving the surfskate for just getting used to facing forward and driving low and compressing etc
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Yes, increasing flexibility on all fronts is my number focus right now.
@LapoSapo
@LapoSapo 3 года назад
Fantastic video, thanks
@yimzzz
@yimzzz 3 года назад
OK! I learned from your first vdo and now this feet stance is unlock the whole new world. Thank!
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Yeah, right?
@richslade2903
@richslade2903 2 года назад
Nice breakdown of the biomechanics 👍
@Ede1vveiss
@Ede1vveiss 2 года назад
Just started today. No background in skating whatsoever. The slight front-facing feet positioning really helped with stability when doing a pushing start :)
@user-ud1ps7tw6e
@user-ud1ps7tw6e 3 года назад
Best ลุงสอนดีมาก เล่นเป็น ภายใน1ชม เพราะคลิบก่อนหน้า มาปรับท่าที่คลิบนี้ต่อ 😂😂😂😂😂
@nadster76
@nadster76 3 года назад
These videos are great man, I wish I lived near you all, there are no surfskaters in this town here in the UK, and the tarmac suuuuuuucks!!!
@joeydaley6000
@joeydaley6000 3 года назад
Ayyye forms looking good!. And the teaching is on point! Keep up the great work bud!!
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
I learn by watching you, my friend! 🙌
@joeydaley6000
@joeydaley6000 3 года назад
@@SurfskateLove pretty soon we'll be able to do a duos routine!! Keep on grinding buddy n ill do the same!
@coppershark1973
@coppershark1973 Год назад
Much MUCH better!
@Weavesurfskate
@Weavesurfskate 3 года назад
great coach! nice lesson, this guy really know how to ride it
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Nah. But I know some Poland dudes who do!
@TOOKTAYOGAPILATES
@TOOKTAYOGAPILATES 2 года назад
Thank you!!
@ChrisGenau
@ChrisGenau 3 года назад
That is one great video Steve!!!
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Bro, guys like you already know all this stuff. The rest of us are just trying to catch up. 😂
@ChrisGenau
@ChrisGenau 3 года назад
@@SurfskateLove haha one is never finished with learning ;) And it’s always great to get other perspectives 🙌🏼 I basically took the same path you did, just 5 years ago already and having surfing in my history ^^ But even after all that time I still learned a lot from Cris and Kale - and you’re Video is one awesome summary!!
@TheSoftPuddingChannel
@TheSoftPuddingChannel 2 года назад
Great improvement
@aristeoperez9790
@aristeoperez9790 2 года назад
Thank you!
@dogsigh
@dogsigh 3 года назад
Much easier to bail too... if you're facing forward more. Very helpful video!
@nitayasrimongkoltarathorn7838
@nitayasrimongkoltarathorn7838 3 года назад
Love so much. Thankyou.
@ShortyDeer
@ShortyDeer 3 года назад
Now that 2 guys from ep. 1 are pro now . I learn a lot from this vdo. Tks
@PsyCodeqz
@PsyCodeqz Год назад
I gotten so good with the back foot pumping that I'm able to pump without the front trucks on the ground, basically a manual while pumping. That was with normal technical skateboards, so i can't wait to get into these type of trucks and boards and the rail 2 rail action, because it's really not the same. I was pumping with stiff grommets doing a type of tap tap motion with the front wheels in a 45 degree angle between each front truck tap, if that makes sense. Once I saw your "cup method", I realized that I have been doing that years but not with these multi-dimensional trucks. Saving up for the Yow Meraki's to rock a lightweight 27 inch long "mini" sector 9 for quick start pumping for pump tracks and easy air time and small launches, and maybe some 360 micro grabs and I'll be happy. But the main reason I'm riding is so I can delivery food much faster in those high rise apartments where you have to walk 80 yards just to get to a persons door. I hate those apartments, but at least I can use people's codes to take advantage of their gyms and pools
@surfskaterelaxation8616
@surfskaterelaxation8616 3 года назад
My man Steve brilliant Thanks
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
You're welcome! And thank you!
@PierreRousseau1958
@PierreRousseau1958 3 года назад
Amazing.
@melissadye4416
@melissadye4416 3 года назад
When you reach forward, throw that weight into it. Shifting your weight really fuels the pump. Thank you for these videos! I went out today for the first time and was carving all over the blacktop like I was surfing again. Thank you for your amazing guidance-I wore my Surfskate Love hat too 😁
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Nice! Love it. 🙌
@truedanbo
@truedanbo 2 года назад
Hi Melissa, quick question, when you say throw that weight, do you mean before scoop, or after scoop? Struggling a bit with it at the moment. Not sure if the scooping or extension after scooping actually gives the forward mementum. Thanks a lot!
@Valtor70
@Valtor70 3 года назад
Thanks for this tutorial greetings from Europe!!
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
You're welcome! Thank you!
@semlja
@semlja 2 года назад
Прекрасное объяснение
@fandumetcalcandum
@fandumetcalcandum 3 года назад
So I tried it and the advice with the arm as leading the balance is quite amazing. I just need practice but that’s good advice indeed.
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
Good to hear! It sure has made a huge difference for me.
@fluffyandblue1829
@fluffyandblue1829 3 года назад
That was great! Thank you very much! Kale Brocks “Ultimate Surfskate Tutorial” helped me a lot too, but my pump still looked awkward. This is going to help a lot! Are you a physical trainer or coach? You coach /teach like you are! I’m a swim coach so I can tell you’re awareness of the body and body mechanics is spot on! 👍🤙👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
I appreciate that! I've been a basketball coach and a life coach but that's it. My awareness of my body came from surfskating.
@TeddyDeanShorts
@TeddyDeanShorts Год назад
This video has been super helpful! One nit-pick though; heels-down toes-up would be the equivalent (in surfing) of a back-side bottom turn. Some people may find it more natural to do the opposite: toes-down heels-up. This makes sense then why, in your bowl riding videos, you have trouble with your front-side turns in the bowl. You're almost exclusively practicing the back-side turns on flat ground. Seems like the recommendation should be to practice both as equally as possible.
@iss_singha3197
@iss_singha3197 3 года назад
Awesome!! Bro, Thx a lot
@igq91
@igq91 3 года назад
Thank you Sir!!!🙏🏼
@fandumetcalcandum
@fandumetcalcandum 3 года назад
At least, this makes you want to try. And I’ll try this tomorrow.
@ministryofstoke160
@ministryofstoke160 3 года назад
you get better and better! awesome!! i take some of your moves to our next workshops. the coffee cup hand is easier to understand then our T-Rex hand ;)
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
I'm having fun, my friend!
@wise_nut
@wise_nut 3 года назад
best video !!! I’m having such weird chopstick posture gotta fix it
@BestinationEmma
@BestinationEmma 3 года назад
Thanks Steve!! This is great however, I'm a regular and when I try to do the stance you mentioned at 9:40++, I feel that it's really awkward and unstable for me. Using the spiceskates pardon btw!! Any tips for me?
@user-hv5yt1ts3i
@user-hv5yt1ts3i 8 месяцев назад
BEST VIDEO EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@alinepalacio9331
@alinepalacio9331 3 года назад
Your technique is very good 🤝
@SurfskateLove
@SurfskateLove 3 года назад
I think a lot of surfers would disagree. 😂 But thank you!
@user-yd4pk1dm8u
@user-yd4pk1dm8u 2 года назад
Thank you
@kkkk1395
@kkkk1395 3 года назад
very nice!
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