BME graduate here! I wasn't the top performer in the class but I was busy outside of campus, volunteering, working a bunch of jobs (research, service, etc). The work ethic gets you noticed, not your GPA! My employer was most interested in things I was working on outside of my schoolwork
I think going to an Ivy League university can really help someone land a job despite the gpa. That’s why where you attend college is really important career wise in my opinion.
I think the college degree helps in terms of getting the interview but IMO once you're interviewing they don't care what school you went to and all they are about is how well you performed on the interview (at least for tech)
Great video, filled with lots of informational content. Im a second year undergrad computer science student at LSU and I'm currently on the hunt looking to land my first software engineering internship. Your personal experience and anecdotes mentioned in this video is certainly great to hear and I will heed your advice. You have a new sub in me!
How does the math work out with that? You go from a 1.5 GPA to a 3.6??? How many years did you go to school and get a 4.0 to bring that GPA up to 3.6? You would have had to go from. 1.5 GPA in only one first semester to getting a perfect 4.0 for seven semesters in a row after that. Mathematically possible, but realistically extremely difficult to do.
I really enjoyed my discrete math class because my professor was much more focused on teaching than research. I took multiple classes from research-oriented professors that were just garbage.
I don’t see how your GPA impacted you negatively. Google doesn’t care for GPA but collect it for data collection purposes. And it’s not like anyone would slap a 2.8 GPA on their resume.
While that’s true, I think it’s still quite common for many students in university (like myself) to still believe the only way to get the interviews is to be a strong academic performer. Plus, although the GPA might not be as big of a factor, I do think that getting a D in an algorithms course (when all interviews test on algorithms) was a large setback and definitely made me doubt myself in the long run of how I would perform.
Depending on where you want to work, some calstate jobs will require transcript(s) from the schools you went to if the job title requires a degree of some sort.
@@YourAverageTechBro definitely not a setback to get a D on algorithms. getting an A wouldn’t imply you’re passing interviews. Algo course is trivial compared to interviews. odd flex pretending to be an underdog.
Current Dartmouth Student and im experiencing that dillema of not knowing if I want to pursue Medicine or drop it for CS. Only difference is I'm already taking Ls early in the cs1 process.
Thank you so much, Dohyun) Do you think this would apply in 2024 when available SWE positions have decreased tremendously? I'm a student from a top3 school in CS but about to get a 3.6-3.7 due to a CS class :(
GPA is meaningless in industry esp if you went to an Ivy... Not as impressed by the -adversity- you faced. I mean, come on, let's be real--you went to Dartmouth. If you had graduated from a no name or directional state school with a 2.8, on the other hand, this video would have certainly been more interesting. Anyway, good job getting into Google and hope you continue to thrive.
I 100% agree with the fact that me going to an ivy league school certainly helped increase my chances of getting the interview, but once you get the interview where you went to school does not matter and it’s solely based on your interview performance. Another thing to note is also the fact that not every single applicant from a particular school will guarantee you the interview - evidence for this is the fact that many peers of mine did not get interviews for some companies that I applied to despite being very academically strong. I agree that this video is not a step-by-step guide for everyone to follow though! It’s more to show that there are different ways to stand out aside from GPA/pure academic performance regardless of what school you go to.
I have a former student, "K", who got a job at Google with a GPA in the mid-twos and a degree from a very average state university. He is a minority kid and that may have helped get their attention, but surely they have many minorities who have high GPAs from elite schools applying. The only thing I can think of is he's a gritty kid who managed to get through college with the Damocles Sword of false police charges against him from late in his freshman year to early in his senior year. He was arrested, later released, then threatened with years in prison. He was regularly harassed and hauled into court. Yet he continued with his business studies full time as the prosecutor tried over the next few years to gather evidence against him for a crime he didn't commit. He finally had the case thrown out and graduated on time. I told him "Nothing will ever scare you again after going through this!" I later heard from a friend that my words were perhaps prophetic, that K had "hit the big time" and gotten a job out West with Google. That prosecutor did him a favor, only made him stronger. I'll bet he was able to look the interviewers right in the eyes and impress the heck out of them, this tough-as-nails kid who had the chutzpah to apply for a job in Big Tech with a mediocre GPA.
2.8 gpa at ivy > 3.8 gpa at non top 50 school .... I guess, this guy trying to make it like there something extraordinary that happened , when he just graduated from ivy
So the key is to graduate from an Ivy League school 🙄. Start and finish with that and perhaps include the help from parents and their friends. This video is about 13min too long.
hi! You said in your video you was relieved when you got the first round interview cuz you knew how to code and solve the problems in the technical interviews. how were you confident in your technical interviewing skills if you did so bad in your algorithms class? I thought these technical interivews are a lot of data structures and algorithm type of questions? Wouldn't you have aced your algorithms class if you are good at technical interview questions. Thanks
Most of the DSA classes are just theory which says prove it and less practical but Interview ask to solve it not to prove it which is more practical. You need just to solve a problem and know patterns.
@@Hellopop626 most big tech companies don’t care too much about what languages you code in during the interviews. You can typically choose whichever one you are most comfortable with!
Hello how are you doing? I'm real close to finishing up my BA degree in computer science and I was wondering if I could work at Microsoft while wrapping up my degree?
Lol he spoke a lot but didn't actually say anything imo. We need to know the "how". How did you land the internship? Was networking important? Sounds like you going to an ivy league school and putting their name on your resume along with a few coding projects was all it took lol
how did you manage to pass these technical interviews but fail to pass core classes in CS? i mean these technical interviews are designed such that most people who pass the core classes still end up failing them
I personally believe that doing well in a class vs doing well in a technical interview are 2 very different skillsets. Doing well in a technical interview is also a very different skillset from software engineering, so it’s very possible to be good at one and bad at the others!
What does the google or any top tech companies looks in a candidate during interviews sir? Please help how to prepare for top tech companies for SDE role. Self preparing vs coding bootcamp which one is better?? Please ans these questions sir.
You should take a look at Leetcode and see what kind of topics their problems cover. The usual webdev-focused coding bootcamp will not prepare you for that kind of problems.
I don't have a degree in C.S. Engineering but in Science ... so from where should I start and what what things must I learn to get a job in a product based company? currently I'm learning Java. Please guide me
i just have a 2 year diploma in software engineering from college in canada, i worked for 2 years at sales, can i still get job at google in sales or do i need to have a degree ?
While I understand the sentiment, I also disagree because I know tons of people from my school that didn’t get any interviews. Is there a bias? Absolutely, but I wouldn’t say it’s guaranteed. Thanks for the feedback though 🙂
To your credit: Your projects were good. Developing your strengths, without diverting focus to any other thing is To your discredit: You have been really too lucky !
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