How I got Grand Champion with 0 mechanics 

Plan to get to GC with no mechanics: try and party up with people who have insane mechanics😂

Wayton: tries to reach gc with no mechanics.. also Wayton: hopes to find a teammate who is mechanical

This debate really comes down to your definition of “mechanics”. You have to remember that when you do a challenge like this, all you’ve lost is your muscle memory. Your read of the ball’s trajectory and physics that you’ve gained after thousands of hours is still there. I’m sure you’d agree that without that, you definitely wouldn’t have completed this challenge. So it depends - do you consider being able to read the ball a “mechanic”? A lot of people would say no, but I’d argue that in order to have the ability to read the ball well, you would need to have practiced mechanics that require that skill, such as double taps, shooting, saves, etc. So while reading the ball may not, in itself, be a mechanic, it is learned through training things that actually are mechanics, despite those mechanics themselves not necessarily being needed to get to GC.

this actually demonstrates that your tm8s can hold you back or especially slow you down

are we gonna talk about how his team mate went from diamond 3 to grand champ in like 3 days

So you don't need mechanics as long as you have teammates with good mechanics. Great info. This will help so much...

"Chasin im better" has to be a paid actor

I agree with the sentiment and the statement that you can get high ranked without mechs, but I think the way you went about it doesn't do the best job showing/proving that for 2 main points imo: 1. teaming up with someone who you admit is both under-ranked, and better mechanically than the other players -- kinda devalues your point. 2. 3s is a gamemode where one player's mistakes have the least amount of impact -- so trying for GC (or whatever rank) in 1s would be more impressive not to say this isn't impressive or to say that the statement is not true -- just that it could've been proved better imo much love

The problem with videos like this is how do you classify reading the ball, reading the 50s, understanding how and where to hit the ball, how to preserve momentum etc etc. Funny how people who spent thousands of hours doing all these things, all of sudden claim "it's not important". If it's not important then coach somebody to get gc in less than 200-400 hours (overall playtime not the in-game stats). P. S. I am not hating, love the content

this only prove's me that i can never reach grand champ in solo queue

Yesss. Wayton uploads!

To me, this only really proves that someone who has already achieved gc with good mechanics can still work their way back up there using the knowledge they gained from being such a high rank, even when being limited in their mechanical ability.

In my opinion, you were not playing with 0 mechanics in this video, you were just learning to use a new type of controller. I think what is most accurate to playing with 0 mechanics is what Flakes did. Keep the ball in the ground, faking, and good positioning.

Wayton: You don't need mechanics to reach Grand Champ 5 minutes later Wayton: We need to team up with someone who is really good mechanically ???

in it's simplest form, i like that the piano controller makes him so excited about the game again. i remember being hyped about those basic goals man, what a fun, easy time

Great work Wayton! I see that, in the case of playing 3s, having tm8s that you can SYNC with is the key to FAST rank ups, especially in the D3 to C3 range. No doubt I think you could grind up to GC solo queing but would take way longer, but in that point in 3s isnt it more like the TEAM is ranked at GC (maybe higher levels this is more applicable) more than the individual player? Unless you get into playing 2s and 1s where individual game sense and mechanics has much more responsibility to reach those higher ranks. Game sense is fundamental and generally more useful than than higher level mechanics in 3s as you demonstrated you had the game sense to read players, ball bounces, and play around whatever random tm8s were doing.

So you found a GC smurf to carry…

the best way to get to GC with no mechs is to have been a GC for 3 years and play on a smurf account tbh thanks for the video. love the piano play though frfr

Your help so much also keep up the great content

You are so good Wayton keep up the great work 🎉

I feel like it’s impossible to get grand champ without mechs. Because you will slowly build up mechs like passing. I know some people will say, PaSsIng iS GaMe SenSe, but a lot of people refer to passing as a mech. You may also build up mechanics like wave dashes for recoveries without even trying to do a wave dash. So you might accidentally do a mechanic even if your not trying to😁

Wayton: You don't need mechanics to rank up. Also Wayton: Just find teammates with good mechanics! (6:14 ) I mean your title is not wrong... but actually you just proved that there is a level of mechanical ability needed to rank up. Also you using a keyboard is not playing with 0 mechanics. You just "reset" your physical ability which you quickly gained again.

Great vid wayton! Keep it up

Honestly this video was much better than your old one where you get out of plat using a keyboard. I do appreciate that you said your mechanics were getting better as you climbed. It showed a sense of growth. I still won't say 0 mechanics as you said you were d4 in mechanics at one point. When I think of 0 mechanics, that is people who cannot even land an aerial no matter how simple, or even control the car in air at all. Anyways I enjoyed the video and congratz!

Fun to watch Wayton, hope you stream some more on twitch!

I would love to sit down and chat with you one day to have a conversation regarding these types of debates. Things like this show up on twitter and reddit, constantly but I don't believe anyone has truly addressed the nuances regarding things like rank, mechanics, positioning, play with the team vs for the team, etc. Idk if you're interested but I think it have a ton of benefit to the community to truly dive into what makes this debate so triggering for so many people.

Hey Wayton! So nice video as always but i was wondering if you could make a video on improving in 1s? Ik you’re not a 1s main though lol, Ive watched the “32 mistakes you’re making in rl” video you made two years ago twice and while it was very helpful most of the tips were geared toward modes where you have teammates. I don’t expect a response but maybe an idea for a future video?🤷‍♂️

Fun playing with you on this Journey!!

I love the idea, but there is a big limit. Yourself. You are already an insanely good player. You KNOW the mechanics, with or without a bad controller. So it's not like you're starting from nothing. You will never be able to have as few mechanics as a real beginner. Positionning is the key. But in this very video, I could clearly see advanced mechanics, even if you consider that you were bad with the keyboard. You litteraly did multiple aerials. And double taps ?! Which beginners can't do. So this is not a solid proof in my eyes, sorry ! I may have positionning weakness, but the difference in mechanic levels once you hit champion is obvious if you are average like me. Losing most 50s. Not being able to quick flip on kick off. Not being able to compete on walls. Not being able to stop a good dribble even with shadow defence. Not aiming properly when shooting. With the incredible amount of smurfs pulling ceiling shots and resets, which are very intimidating with my level, etc... You already have the knowledge of these mechanics (and their counter), even with your keyboard, and you are already better than me, at minute 1 ^^ For me, if you want to demonstrate this, you have to observe how a very beginner plays, and cap your skills regarding this. Never aerial. Never make clean controls on the ground. Never win a hard 50. Never shoot hard. Never play backward properly. THIS is having no mechanics. If you even only reach champion like that, I would argue that this is a way better proof. However, this is a good encouragement for beginners. Keep up the good work.

Sick, now please god tell me how to position properly so I can do this too 😂

This is great would love to see more content like this!

Congrats on GC Wayton. I just got Champ in 2v2. I was so happy for me to get Champ like you were to getting GC. Keep up the grind! You’re killing it. You’ll get SSL someday. Hang in there.

This just proves the importance of team synergy

You still had the trained patterns and timing of mechs and knew when you were aligned and for how long and when you should be pressing the keys to get your car to do what you want. You knew what to do mechanically with your car. You may have been lost when inconsistency and fails put you in the wrong spots but there are many situations where lower ranks get lost anyways because they just don't know how to for example turn their car when upside down. Therefore I would argue that you had a kind of mechanical advantage over lower ranks, a part of having gc mechanics transferred to your piano gameplay. How big of an influence do you think that had?

I really appreciate the showcase that gamesense and mentalitya are at least as important as mechanical skill. I think that's the most important message one should take from this video.

Your content is just great!

Alternate title: Wayton becomes better than all of us while using a piano keyboard then we are on a controller...

Great vid - as a low mechanics champ player myself, this kind of thing gives me inspiration to go grind for that GC title. I'll definitely be diving into that educational video next. Thanks Wayton!

Great video, could you do one covering the "game sense" aspect of duos? Not necessarily playing with a keyboard just show the rotation/ strategy of playing twos.

This is the kind of content I give a like even before watching, the videos are always getting better

This is fake, he touched the ball which is the hardest mechanic there is☹️

okay cool, now do that in 2s😏

I did the same thing by switching for kbm when my controller was broken and I quickly went up champion in 2s, the thing you keep in terms of mechanics while switching to any device (yes even a piano) are the precise timings of your imputs wich are the most important thing of all. That's something you absolutely need in rocket league and it can't be tought. You need to practice those shots and those saves or you will be completely lost when climbing up. And this translate to any support even if you would play with your feet, your brain learned those timings and can't unlearn them

Most people playing with no mechanics don't "randomly" end up with GC level players in their diamond lobbies wanting to party up with them for a quick 30 game session... Do it off stream, with a random name, and no telling anyone who you are. See how long it takes you.

Wayton has showed his piano skills and now he can play any song possible! He should make a new intro theme song. Great video, love the content Wayton. :)

Hey Wayton! Glad to see you showing us keyboard players more recognition!

wayton on da grind

i just got solo que gc two days ago and im bottom of the barrel when it comes to mechs, you just need to be where your team needs you and you got it

Whats interesting that Wayton pointed out was that his tm8 was "under ranked". I feel like that is definitely possible because solo q is very much unpredictable. There is skill and LUCK involved. If youre just not getting at least decent tm8s, you can very much be under ranked. I already know people are going to say, "work around your tm8s!" which yes i agree, but we cant just ignore the fact that luck and having bad tm8s is a reality to this game too. My evidence, today as we speak, i am going to get ssl in rumble to get my ssl rewards. Last season, i got ssl in just 5 days in rumble. Now i cant get it for weeks and im stuck in gc2/gc3. I also got ssl for the first time in 3s yesterday so skill isnt an issue. Its just this season in rumble i had no luck in rumble, but fantastic luck in 3s. So yes, luck and bad tm8s are a thing

He played on a LITERAL keyboard 🙃

I broke my hands 2 weeks ago and can't hold a controller anymore (for the next month or 2) so I started playing on keyboard (with similarly bad mechs as wayton), got to mid c1 by this point (started my keyboard journey like a week ago) this actually really motivates me to go on and see where I can end up at when my injury has finally healed

awesome watch but man the fails would be so refreshing and hilarious to see at least mixed in throughout

GG I guess lol. it's cool I'm in a video!

Congrats to RL #1 GC 3v3 PIANO player 👏👏 Super impressed by the video quality and effort as always... didn't expect someone to make a video response to the tweet. This was cool. Couldn't have been a better person than you to do it. But now for the real test that everyone is commenting about... When do we get to see part 2V2 or part 1V1? 👀

grand champ with no mechanics. Wayton: "Lets find a mechanical tm8 that I can play around".

Wow GG it was a great video, now i imagine, can you try a full team of 3 players who have no mechanics to get gc? im sure you can do it bro

Its pretty easy for a Grand Champ to get Grand Champ with no mechanics... Anyone can achieve their own rank without using mechs. And you obviously got carried by your tm8s. All you did was prove that you can hit grand champ in the easiest game mode if you have a smurf tm8 and were already grand champ on your main.

As someone whose been a gc player on and off for the last couple years with low mechanics this is absolutely possible. It’s more about consistent touches on open nets and rotations than anything else. Also solo queue def can make it tougher

Wayton: gets to gc on a literal electronic piano Me: cant even get to gold

The way to rank up fast is to find tm8s that complement your play style. I’m an aggressive non mechanical player (the worst type of teammate) so I only play 1s (I feel to bad to solo queue😂) or with my teammate who’s passive but mechanical and high IQ. There’s a balance that you need to find and stick with IMO.

We know those other videos only helped so much, the reason the Flakes one is so legendary is because he talks to us like we deserve.

I love how you just disproved your theory by teaming with someone who has mechs. The whole point of series like Leth's is that you can solo q to ssl with good decision making. This just proves the "my teammates suck" theory.

this just inspires me to solo q rank 3s more and get to champ 1 like I always believed.

wayton back at it again with another banger video.

Shouldve titled the vid "how i got grand champion with a piano "

idk. definitely makes a very good point, that game awareness is the most important thing for gc. issue is wayton has so much game time at GC level his in game iq is miles beyond what anyone under gc could have. he also is very mechanical on a proper set up, so he reads other players ability and the game much better. id still say the fastest way to get GC is grind freeplay and get mechanical rather than grind ranked and try get smart. mechanics help you play smarter as well

"You can get gc with 0 mechanics" Wayton: i agree Also wayton: Lets hope that we get a mechanical tm8 today ALSO WAYTON: since i couldnt get gc, i partied up with gcs and got carried

This proves that you can rank up in solo queue but bad teammates will make it insanly hard

4:47 him:no mechanics Also him:*half flips*

Wayton, so cool I ran into you! Heck of a thing you achieved, i am still shocked you pull this off haha -JrodH

“You can get GC with no mechanics” Don’t do that, don’t give me hope

love the vids

Great video I myself consider this to be my game play so it's great that this can be confirmed

wish i had a teamate like wayton, on keyboard or not, you cannot beat his mentality

Dude I cannot believe it only took you a week on a new input device to hit GC like wtf thats nuts man! Also this was a really good video and a really good video idea

Let’s go wayton posted!!

The fact that this man is 10x better than me with a piano as a controller really crushes my spirit

When the camera showed the back of your setup, I felt like I truly broke the 4th wall

Mechs are for me one of the most important things in Rocket League, bcs it makes the game much more fun and challenging. Playing with a teammate in my gc1 lobbies who does not have a single mech learned is a pain in the neck and I have a problem to trust him in so many plays throughout the game. So mechs are important, not as much as open nets for example but zk what I mean ...

always been a kbm player and this actually really inspired me to get out of garbage diamond. gonna go do that real quick

This proves that in RL, like in most activities, you need other things than what people think. Then, of course, you need all the things if you really want to be up there with the best.

We learned you don’t need good mechanics to get GC, you just need to play with people who have insane mechanics

Did you notice, during the 5 days effort, any difference in teammates and ranking up chance according to time during the day or specific days (maybe fri-sun) that is better not to play?

I've honestly been hesitant to watch this video initially and honestly after watching I understand a bit as to why. I am someone who has been training and grinding away at the rank ladder for nearly 4 years and just barely got GC for the first time this season in 2's. The biggest change was getting a consistent teammate that I could play with and rely on. While yes I did play really well and outperformed my teammate in several games, it still didn't feel like I achieved GC myself. Not to say that I didn't appreciate the help or that it diminishes the fact that I got GC after hunting it for so long and having gotten 1 game off twice before, but the fact that despite all of my hard work, despite the years of struggling to improve and get better at the game to reach beyond that boundary of C3 into GC 1, came down to the fact of getting a teammate who had better mechanics so I could focus on my game sense. First thing that came to mind while watching this video was frustration as this video almost felt like a mockery to the hard work that I put into the game to try and get better at it; not in mechanics, but in game sense. All of my consistent friends and teammates I would play with would all say that I'm a very game sense driven player and often adapt to my teammates playstyles as much as I can so that I can enable them to play at their best. As the video went on, I started to get my mental back and reminded myself that what ultimately did end up helping me feel comfortable getting GC was the fact that I played smarter and focused on slowing down the play and just being smart and keeping the ball close/passing; which is kind of the point of this video. Something that I appreciated was that you talked about what often a lot of Champ players (C3 primarily is where I encountered it the most), and that is just when you're on the cusp of hitting GC, you encounter roadblock after roadblock stopping you from progressing further to that new level. This did bring up an intersting thought to my mind of something I'm really curious about and would appreciate if you asked your community about since you seem to be doing more research based videos as of late. When do most players end up playing RL? And a follow up question, what time of day do they think they encounter the most smurfs? I work a full time job and so I can't play during the day and often would spend my evenings once I get home with my wife/other family activities. So I normally play around 9-10PM till about midnight. I'm a night owl and often feel very awake and very engaged during this time and often play at my best. These times are when I am more consistently encountering what feels like more smurfs/teamed up players with even multiple smurfs at once. On the days where I'm at home during the middle of the day I seem to get more consistently players that seem to be around my skill level/rank and I tend to have better rank sessions. Granted my best rank sessions have been at the later hours of the night, but those are rare and oftentimes when I'm playing with someone of a higher skill level and they're playing really good that night. I feel that the time of day impacts the kind of players that you end up encountering and teaming up with and by extension your rank sessions. I don't fully know when you streamed these ranked sessions for this video as I can't typically catch twitch streams while at work, but I'd assume that they were during the middle of the day. Again this is just a thought and I have many more thoughts about this subject, but this comment is already monstrously long and so I'm gonna cut it here. Regardless I did end up appreciating and liking the video to a certain extent, just wish that you phrased things a bit better/emphasized a bit more of the struggle as it definitely feels like a bit of a mockery towards those of us who are trying to hit GC and get better at the game, but due to circumstances with random teammates or just encountering a ton of smurfs or even players like your mechanical teammate that helped you get to GC at the end of the video and just don't play that particular ranked gamemode, it makes hitting GC legitimately hard and not as easy as a lot of content creators make it out to be. GC and above make up ~1% of the total playerbase of RL, meaning it isn't a simple club that you can just sign up for and just have. I'm not saying it's impossible or a challenge that's just unreasonable to shoot for, just a hard challenge that can be achieved eventually given enough work, time, and passion for the game.

i would like to see wayton try this in 2s. I think it would def be more difficult. But if anyone can do it its wayton!

Next video: “how I got ssl with only shooting”

'GC with no mecanics' 'Day 4, my mechanics are Diamond 2' 😅😅😅

Moral of the story: You can get GC without good mechanics.....if you manage to find teammates who dont tilt.

I feel like the initial tweet greatly hinges on what people consider mechanics. You did address this in the opening, but I think you could take this even further and extend it to game knowledge applied on the fly. Like knowing when the timing is optimal to do a powershot or how fast your car reaches where. Basically all the things one could only learn to apply by playing rather than educating themselves elsewhere. And no matter the method, I don't think you can take that away from an experienced player like yourself. If you do consider this mechanics, I guess the closest thing to playing without those, would be to backseat every single small decision of a gold level player and have them follow suit with as little delay as possible.

Oh hey! I'm the Tsagacity that briefly kept you out of GC! I was watching this going "hey, he's around my rank now, I coulda queued up against him", and then right as I thought that, saw my name pop up on screen lmao. How did I not notice playing against "WaytonOnDaKeys"?

Wayton: I'm going to get to GC without mechanics. Also Wayton: Learns how to half flip and double tap 😂

Dayton 2023 "This guy is insane on piano"😂😂😂

The stratagy was awesome! "Get carried" is always the best strategy

You earned a sub my man

I don't think there are truly "zero mechanics", as any input on a controller is a mechanic. You can't win by not moving, unless you win trade. With that said, this does make it difficult to delineate between what is considered "no mechanics" and "advanced mechanics". Technically, doing two inputs at once is advanced, since you have to involve more than one input. When you were jumping for the ball and getting saves on the keyboard, you were exercising turn, jump, boost, and air roll + knowing where to place your hitbox on the ball to get a save. That is very advanced to an outside viewer. You may not have been hitting flip resets or ceiling pinches, but at the end of the day, those are just a condensed series of core mechanics to achieve a desired effect. You could easily do that on a piano, with enough time. As such, mechanics should really be judged by the consistency you have in coordination to achieve a desire effect, not their complexity. A TAS goal is not more advanced than a bronze ground shot. It just has more core inputs condensed over time with programable consistency. So to say you can get GC with zero mechanics should really be phrased as "can you get GC with zero consistency?" I would say no. Unless you're carried.

Hey Wayton, what if you did a video on former pros and where they are now? I used to follow pro play but now I am less into it. Every single clip I see some new player and wonder where did all the ogs go. Ppl like kuxir who new players probably don’t even know the name, just that it is a pinch. I think it would be a really cool idea and also go really well with your editing style

I think it can be limiting to just think of teammates as either good or bad. I've played with people who are clearly faster than me and have better mechanics, but we have zero team chemistry. Conversely, I've played with folks who are less mechanical than me but our style/rotations fit together so seamlessly that we're beating people who look better than both of us as individuals. So maybe worth trying to party up with those players who you best mesh with, rather than who looks the most mechanical!

To climb the ranks, find someone mechanical and party up. Got it. 😂

i still don't think this counts as "zero" mechanics but nice job lol

I think at the end of the day, you need to be at a certain skill level to get gc. There's jsut different areas in which that skill can be allocated. You can be very balanced between mechanics, rotations, reads and gamesense (obviously all of that can be layered down further, like [offense, defense, flicks, aerials, backboard pays, solo plays, passing, ...]) and you will get gc at one point, but you can also be very good at rotations, gamesense and reading the ball and then make up for the lack in mechanics. However you could also be a player that's really mechanical and have a decent ball reading skill but absolutely horrendous rotations and gamesense and still make gc. It is really just a balance of better developed areas in a playstyle having to make up for the less advanced ones or being good enough in each one of them.