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I once saw a drawing that encapsullates how kim jung gi was: He was showing he's sketches and croquis on a live drawing session. He showed one of a class on college and said ''we had to draw the model, but I drew the whole class instead''. That's how far we are from him.
I am a huge KJG fan and watched a lot of his livestreams back in the day. Basically what he always said is, people just do not understand on how much he drew. Sure, he probably had some kind of talent or maybe born interest for drawing but this dude was basically drawing every of his life. After he served his time in the military his entire life was just based around drawing and being a teacher. I don't say everyone who draws as much as him is going to be as good as him but a major part is just the work that he was willing to spent with his pen and paper. Still missing him, he was so fun to watch and a great inspiration. I am super glad that they opend his museum in Korea and represent him regulary in Paris.
If you can only make your argument by being condescending, then maybe your argument isn’t on solid ground. If you disagree, that’s totally fine, but you’re not gonna change anyone’s mind leaving comments like that
@@solarydaysAnything is possible for everyone. There I said it. Just Do It. If you want it, you can have it. Just remember when the big bad world stares you in the eye, take one step closer to it.
I made a video called “Talent isn’t real, here’s proof”. That’s basically got my whole argument boiled down to its core, so if you watch that, let me know what parts you disagree on and why, bc genuinely, if i’m missing something, i wanna learn. But you’ve gotta respond in good faith or the whole discussion’s for nothing, y’know? lol
@@solarydaysthe thing is genuinely no sane person draws from more than 5 hours on average every day. KJG is also just good at one specific thing cause id argue some painters have better end results that he has. hes the best and what all artists understand as being good
If you’re just getting into learning how to draw. Study and understand Kim Jung Gi. Understand his mindset. He grew up without internet videos teaching him how to draw. Sit down somewhere looking at a scene and the objects in that scene. Then visualize how you would draw those objects exactly as how you see them. Then you can actually draw on paper to check if you understand if what you’re seeing can actually be put on paper. To correct your mistakes you can take a picture of the scene to understand the shape of the objects and their perspective in relation to each other. I did this to learn how to draw real life perspective and volume. It’s way easier to comprehend than just drawing a bunch of boxes. Before you ever start putting lines on a paper your whole mindset has to change. Your mind has to become like a 3d modeling software program. You start with a box then you manipulate the shape of that box to fit whatever object you want. This is key to being able to recall any object you want to draw from memory and from any perspective because youd be able to turn that object in your mind and draw it.
His freestyle-like approach to drawing is what inspires me the most. I want to do that as well (never ever going to be as good as him). I feel it helps me draw way more organic and weird shapes and lines. They are often not that realistic but convey my vibe better and i want to be able to activily and precisely draw like that.
@@Moodboard39 im simply admiring one of the greatest artists ever and say that his style is inspiring to me. Why would Go from that to insulting me and further diagnosing this as the root of all bad in all people.
Don't forget my name, one of the best artists of the future and the biggest fan of Kim Jung Gi Okay, maybe it was a bit of an exaggeration, I was just trying to motivate myself
I started drawing daily when I was 5 but it was only when I was around 13 I started actually trying to understand more. And I made more progress in the first couple months then I had the 8 years before. It’s all about quality practice and dedication, not “talent” or the time you’re given.
My brother and I were only 12 years old when we discovered him . We are obsessed with art hell we still want to be like remembered as artist. It's been 4 years and we have more than 5000 hours . We lost count. We been observing ever since. We are currently going to become young adults and drawing has become like English to us we can just draw with pens like pencils
I was also lucky enough to have found about him from the Proko interview back in 2018 & the reason I say lucky is that I got to know all about him while he was still with us. I remember sitting through some of the longer videos just watching him fill out these massive canvases from his imagination & I was in awe...How could someone have such a vast visual library. It was interesting to hear him give interviews on how he became so good at what he did & even though I personally know I'll never be anywhere near that level it's still great to get an insight on what someone that possesses that amount of skill has done over their lifetime to get to that level. It's sad that we lost him at a relatively young age because I definitely felt he was one of the greatest artists of his generation but his art will live long into the future.
This was deep! I haven't decided on my relationship with art yet but one day I'll figure it out. I like the idea of slow deliberate practice, so maybe that'll be my first step.
I started drawing at the age of 7. i don't think i was and am drawing as much as gi was but i still absolutely love drawing and keep persuing it. i recently turned 16 and am now teaching myself anatomy. i've seen those drawings from him when he was 17 years old and my goal is to get to a similar level. i will probably be a good bit off but i still have like one and a half years untill i reach the same age he was then and that's a lot of time to learn and improve. i don't have the same level of observational skills but i do think a lot about what i draw from a functional level, aiming to understand what i draw and not just replicating the looks of it. i guess i'll see how far i come in the next 18 months. untill then, i wish everyone else the very best of luck in achieving your own personal goals!
GO FOR IT!!! I believe in you, 100%! I do want to caution you though, that most things take more time than we'd ever imagined. When I was 19, I thought I'd progress *way* faster with art than I did, but that's kinda just how life goes - for everyone. Aim high, 100%. But just be prepared to potentially fall short of your goals and not get discouraged. It's the sort of thing you only learn from experience. Aiming to improve over the next 18 months is a great goal, just be careful about externalising that reward, because a year from now you'll have come a LONG way, don't go accidentally turning that success into a failure.
@davsketch don't worry, i always measure my progress by comparing my newer drawings to older ones. And no matter how far I'll make it this year, the amount of anatomy I've learnt already is a lot of improvement. And if i develop a habit of always drawing people when I'm out and about and maybe start doing more gesture drawings, I'm sure I'll see an even greater difference 9 months from now :) Thanks for the encouraging words, and i hope you can stick to your goals too!
Great video, he was a huge influence, and those are strong points on observation skills, altho I do disagree that we can reach Kim Jung Gi's level, I think he had something I personally don't, something that goes beyond love, dedication and experience, he was a special human being.. I don't really buy into talent that much, but man, I've seen talent, and what people with talent can do when they actually put effort into it, its something else, its something really special, and thats ok I can just appreciate how some of these people are existing on a different level. I don't need to compete with them, I'm not even in the same league, I just need to be better than myself each day and thats enough. Accepting we don't need to be the best is also a form of love and respect for the craft and it's history, imo
Thank you!! About the last one. Generally I don’t believe that there is some mythical talent. I think that the talent is the underlying love and interest to the subject When i hear something like “he has a talent, but I don’t so I will not even try” it drives me crazy. It’s just a fancy way of saying “he has strong interest and he works on this subject huge amount of time, but I don’t”
100% agree. Talent should be defined as "circumstance meeting experience" imo, but that's not how people use the word. (Karma gets closer, but carries some religious connotation so it's not perfect) Circumstance meaning what family were you born into (were they supportive vs not), what country were you born into (was drawing even a career path available to you?), etc. Circumstance is all the stuff outside of your control that influenced your starting point. Experience then being, did you grow up drawing? Maybe you were really into 3D modelling or clay sculpture, but never picked up a pencil. Or maybe you just daydreamed a lot, so your visualisation was strong. Those experiences help build the same core skills as drawing, so that'd give you a head start over others even if you've both *never* drawn a picture before. The list for each category is literally endless, but it's also well grounded and scientific. Talking about talent like it's magic or completely beyond understanding drives me crazy hahah, it just sounds super elitist.
Other videos touch on this topic, and I've watched plenty. This one ranks easily in the top three. Well crafted, well thought out, well paced. Well done. Also, laughed at the character flipping Kim off at 3:20 . Gold.
Did not expect this to be such a good video when I clicked on it... but I was pleasantly surprised!! My man, you deserve SO many more views, I'll be cheering for your success!! Hang in there, keep making stellar content, and you'll be huge in no time, that's for sure!
This was a really nicely done video. You have a great way of distilling information in a way that's very fun and super engaging! Thank you for this, always love to hear and see more about KJG! He will forever be missed.
You totally can!! I believe in you 100%. It just takes time, and investing into your own love for making art! He’d put tens of thousands of hours into drawing to get there, so anyone who thinks it isn’t possible has no grounds to stand on imo, bc who are they to say it isn’t possible when they haven’t tried it themselves hahah.
My wife is Korean and is able to translate what he is saying real time. He does have a translator, but she is not always there and sometime she leaves things out and she too busy answering the chat room questions. The stories and input he has off the cuff, is baffling.
good video, but I think something a lot of people are ignoring is that he had an insanely strong imagination. you know the meme of visualizing the apple in your head? if you suck at that then learning to draw is gonna be so much harder for you than for someone who can see the apple and rotate it in their head. he could visualize 3d shapes really well. better than most artists. he also had a great memory. visualization and a strong memory is part of having talent for drawing. people often say hard work beats talent, but talent and hard work will always win. I for example am terrible at visualization. I cant see an apple in my head. so I can't draw something like a human without sketching.
As someone who basically started taking art seriously when I was TWO not even exaggerating, I can understand why his calling was always art, as soon as someone picks up a pen they just know from that moment they were destined to make something great in this world, for how many hours I put into my work at 18 now, I can say I'm not even nearly as good as Kim but one day I strive to have such delicate and intentional line weight as he, rip to Kim after his heart attack I was heart broken to hear such a man could pass so suddenly without any prior health issues, the art community will miss you
you have a great analytical mind :) I agreed with all the points you said, dunno if KJG is the greatest artist of all time thou, the world is a hugeeee place, multiplied by all the people that lived before as well that can go into the consideration :) also the subjectivity of art makes it even harder to name one above all others, hehe, but its fun to think about it :)
I agree with this video, but I will say is that there is a difference between hard work and obsession. I remember in an interview he said that while he was serving his term in the army he started drawing in his head because he didn't have time to draw in a sketchbook (or he wasn't allowed to idk), even then, the moment he moved up in the ranks and got time to himself, he immediately started drawing again. ever since I heard that I started to realize that all of the hard work you mentioned in this video, and that we see in his sketchbooks, wasn't really hard for him at all. Not trying to say he didn't struggle at times, but in the midst of his struggles giving up was never even considered. so when we talk about " Jung Gi was on a different level" I don't think that level was either talent, or hard work, but genuine obsession,. And I'll be completely honest with you, anyone can work hard, but obsession is difficult to replicate. I'm not saying this to discourage you or anyone that took the time to read this, but I'm imploring you to acknowledge that while you may have a bright spirit, and the talent to boot, you may not have the same obsession that he had; so you should draw accordingly. Dong Ho Kim and Katsuya Terada are both examples of people that can do what Kim Jung gi could do (albeit not to the same level), and Dong Ho was even trained directly under Kim Jung gi, so learning the technical side of things is obviously possible and available for anyone. The charm of Kim Jung Gi's art came from experience that he gained over the years, not just from studies, but from drawing the things he genuinely enjoyed. Everyones experiences are different, therefore, even though we may gain the same technical knowledge as Kim Jung gi, how we use it is dependent on who we are, and our experiences, as a person. So yeah sorry about the long comment. I'm not even sure if any of this makes sense, but as a last note you will never be Kim Jung gi, but Kim Jung gi (and anyone for that matter) will never be you. Be patient with yourself, don't predetermine your limits, and yeah have fun.
Well said. When I first discovered him, I honestly felt vindicated for my passion and view on art. People always make it out as some kind of gym exercise or an assignment whenever I watch videos about art, but I never felt like that so I kinda thought I was doing it wrong. That maybe I was being too lax and not taking it seriously? By that point I was already doing art for 4-5 years. They said it would difficult and that you'll feel like quitting, I ..never felt that. Quitting art _never_ crossed my mind. Finding it frustrating never made me despair and think of stopping. I just wanted to keep going. _I love drawing._ I always wanted to just keep going. Being unskilled made me struggle, but never made me fall out of love in doing it. The struggle was part of the enjoyment. I found a thrill in not being good at drawing this one thing and then I'd obsess like it'll kill me if I stop. I honestly thought (and my brother too lol) that I was crazy. It's like my mind goes on a hyperdrive. And there's nothing but art related observations circling through it that I have to put down on paper. Dissect, enjoy, repeat. As a testament to how absurd giving up art was to me: I had this whole "art" group in high school, and we went to different schools for college. When I met up with them after some time. They said _they didn't draw anymore._ I remember my whole brain chemicals being rewired at that moment. Because, _you can do that??_ Just. Stop? Drawing? I actually felt offended and I think it showed on my face because she laughed and said I look like she said she murdered her family. BECAUSE HOW CAN YOU? 😭 AND WHY DID YOU. THERE IS NO END. I WILL GRIP A PEN TILL MY LAST MOMENTS.
1:17 is hardcore lmao. Fantastic video dude, everything about it is stellar. Also making me realize that maybe I just don't love art as much as I think I do. Definitely not putting in this kind of work with anything in my life lol
Hahah, thank you!! It’s a hard journey being sn artist. I think that love can be cultivated, and it ebbs and flows with time. Sometimes you just need some time away from it, and that’s okay too. But like, idk, you can have close friends you don’t see every day, for some people art is the same. It doesn’t mean you don’t love it imo, your relationship with it is just different. If you think you love it, probably you do hahah, my guess would be there’s other stuff around it that’s adding pressure. But idk, that’s just my perspective
you started from 19? well, I started from 12 and still sucks if it comes to imagination.... I fovusing my self in portrait and realism.... but Kim jung gi and anybody who mastered the IMAGINATION drawing.... DESERVES GREAT GREAT GREAT RESPECT....
1:34 do you know what video this is from? great video by the way, the analysis really helps people understand that achieving a skill like jung gi really isnt impossible, but takes grit and discipline.
that's from my phone camera hahah. It's a few pages from his 2007 Sketch Collection, there's flip-throughs up on RU-vid though! :: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DtDQIf1epwk.html I 100% recommend buying the books if you can, they're super dense and the art inside is incredible. But they're also expensive, so those flipthroughs are a nice alternative hahah. It costs ~$250-300AUD to get them where I live, so they're, sadly, very outside of many peoples budget. Thanks for the kind comment btw, there's been a surprising amount of pushback here from me saying it's possible to achieve lol, so it's nice hearing that it resonates with people too
Yeaa, people don't understand that. They start talking crap cuz they lack it ....says just a skill he learned lol 😂😂😂😂 They insecure about their own abilities
Kim jung-gi is a genius, but he is also a product of hard work. In fact, Kim jung-gi disciples say that his a product of hard work. His a person who draws on toilet paper even when I go to the bathroom. We are living in an era where the fun of drawing is being lost due to the development of AI technology. It's sad that Kim Jung-gi left.
no idea how that was your takeaway from this, my whole message here is anyone can achieve this if it's what they truly want to spend their life doing lol
It's highly likely KJG clocked in 100,000+ hours of drawing over his lifetime. Here's my guess at a breakdown. Age 6-12, 1hr/day = 2190 hrs Age 13-18, 8hrs/day = 17520 hrs Age 19-20 (military service), 1hr/day = 730 hrs Age 21-47, 8hrs/day = 96360 hrs Total = 116,800 hrs
He said in the military he would just draw something inside his mind because he didn't want to draw portraits of officer's family members. He would pretend that he wasn't good at drawing and let someone else do it instead.
Everyone wants to break down his techniques and thought process on his behalf. I don't know why. From his interviews and courses, it's pretty evident that not a single soul on this planet will be able to draw like him. Can get close but not as good as him for now. For that it will take 30..40 years more because he was not just drawing peopl or things in different poses and complex perspectives - He was pouring in years of actual rich real world experiences to the paper. Things that he heard, saw, touched, tasted, felt, read with all his senses. I feel silly everytime when westerners put up a tutorial on "how to draw like kim jung gi", the truth is this dude went beyond just drawing. No matter how hard one practice, you cannot simply recreate another person's reality.
If you spend one hour per day on ANYTHING, after doing so for five years you will be as good at that thing as you are ever going to be. No one knows the precise ingredients for success, and however you define, "Luck," it also plays a part.
This doesn't make sense to me? Do you think that after investing 2000 hours into a skill, you can't improve anymore? That there's no difference between someone who's been playing an instrument for 20 years vs that same person when they were at just 7 years? I agree that luck plays a part, but luck is all about your circumstances and experience, right? If you came across it while you were young, you're "lucky", in the same way as if you started at 19 instead of 50. You're lucky that you happened to pick it up younger, sure. But that has no impact on your ability to learn once you get started
Idiot. Yes. I'm saying that after 2000 hours you will certainly continue to see small improvements, and in the general overall scheme of it all, those little things won't mean much--Because, you have arrived in the realm of, "Luck," or talent that cannot be measured, or accounted for. AND, there will always be someone to be found who is a little bit better than you are, and someone to be found who is a little bit worse than you are. Some things, we haven't developed any exact science around yet for measuring properly. "Talent," is one of those things. Now do you understand, or shall we keep bantering back and forth about it like old women enjoying a nice hot cup of tea??
@@congozillaThis is not true. Most artists won't even be at a professional level with one hour of drawing a day for 5 years, regardless of their level of natural aptitude/inclination (relative ability of picking up the fundamentals). Even professionals with far more experience will go to ateliers and become far more skilled than they could've imagined. This isn't really a matter of opinion. You're wrong on the facts. Luck plays a role, but the majority of advanced artists have spent far more time than that drawing, and still see their abilities increase over time
I get it, people want to get clicks. But saying he is the greatest artist of all time, or that he draws from imagination is simply not true. First off, even if he was the most skilled artist ever (which he is not) its still up for opinion. The second thing however is not true in a more pedantic sense. Imagination is coming up with things that are novel. Kim Jung gi however is famous for his memory and how he remembers things he has seen a long time ago, as well as his ability to recreate things I love kim jung gi more than probably any other artist, but if you wanna do a video on "how kim jung gi mastered drawing" please stick to the facts instead of trying to make it more sensational than it already is
I agree to a degree with these statements. Some work all their life, striving to gain results with next to nothing obtained. No one takes the innate genetic in mind regarding mental talent capacity. On friend would draw maybe an hour a day vs another who drew on averagr 3-4 hours a day. Both practicing the same studies with in the year. The first put not even 1/4 of the effort but gained skills of the second leagues faster. In contrast, the first became a master/prodigy in yeara time, while the second is not very good despite efforts. Some are meant to draw while others will never reach such hights and remain amiture for over 20 years as it is a ungorgiving career path. "Be the best, or left in the dust." Is what some have said by professionals, who do make valid points. Kim is a master and naturally talented artist, R.I.P, who is mind blowing skills that most will never get achive. I personally think you need a very good teachers who understanda how his student thinks to bring them up to such levels, otherwise most artists will possible stumble and give up out of frustration. Maybe im overthinking this by logical stand stand
I disagree. Firstly, there is not a person alive who becomes a master in draftsman after a year of drawing an hour per day. Even the most talented artists wouldn't make such a claim because they recognize its implausibility. There is truth in the idea that some people will advance faster than others, and beginners in particular tend to bemoan this fact. Two people drawing for 3 hours a day won't be at the same level in a year. And it's possible a third person could draw for half as long and see more progress than both. However, the overwhelming majority of people who spend 3/4 hours per day over a year drawing will see *significant* growth in their skills. The amount of people who cannot improve regardless of the amount of time they spend drawing is incredibly small, but of course, I'm sure they exist to some extent. However, the vast majority of people who use that excuse simply haven't drawn enough to see large improvement. For context, 4 hours of drawing per day sounds like a lot to beginners, however, it is not much if the individual wants to be a professional level artist within a few years. Pros draw over 8 hours a day and often have been doing so since childhood. I find that beginners (myself included) tend to *(1)* overestimate how much they draw, *(2)* underestimate how much time they need to draw for their goal, and *(3)* are not good at recognizing how much they have grown since they started, which all culminated in a feeling of helplessness about results. Those who consistently stick with it over the long term are likely to see positive change in quality as long as they had not ignored working on the fundamentals, and when looking back they tend to recognize how much they grew even in the time periods where they thought they were stagnant.
I agree that Kim Jung Gi was the greatest artist to ever live. If you disagree, its okay to cry about it. Sorry, I don't recognise some renowned artist from the 1800s and don't care about how much their work speaks to your heart and your overanalysis of it. Sorry. Don't care.
bruh it is a gift he is talented thats talent sure you can get god level with hard work but don't act like this guy is not built different he also put in the hours and work but he is built different. Dope video tho
🤷 prove it then lol. i've made my point, so gimme some evidence that talent exists. totally fine to disagree, but i've never been shown any actual evidence that talent is real that can't be better explained through circumstance + experience (or the concept of karma, ig)
@@noahfletcher3019I said you can get that good with just hard work in the comment. I just think people who ignore talent and pretend it does not exist just to make themselves feel better will end up wasting time and not improving as quickly as someone who is willing to face reality and do something about it.
@@Bell_420 also, it's not clear that he was actually talented. He drew way more than any other person so that in itself is enough to explain why he was better. Also if you listen to how he practiced, his way of practicing is very different to other people's methods. That would also explain why his results are different, you don't even need to mention talent to understand why he's that good.
Sure, it's subjective but I can't think of anyone with more artistic skill. Let me know if you have one in mind. Otherwise I'll just continue to think Gi was the greatest.
not even close to be the best artist ever, there is much more than just can draw with your immagination. please educate yourself before doing such disinformative videos. counting hours of drawing is useless, just focus in improving and enjoy doing it, art isn't about numers, only math care so much about numbers. don't get maniacal, it is dangerous.
I agree. I've tried to understand not only how he could spend so much time drawing, but to also understand what motivated him. It seems that, like Terese Nielsen, his art came at a critical time in his life when he could get the attention he needed, but it also kept him from being bored. For me, I ended up just getting stuck in my head as a kid and daydreamed a lot, because I kind of had to make up my own entertainment in an environment where I was the only young person and the places I lived kept changing. For KJG and other similar artists, their art developed naturally and organically. If my outlet was drawing instead of daydreaming, I'd have a ton of art to show for my time, rather than air.
You can turn that around now though and start cultivating that growth today, if it’s what you want to do!! It’s definitely tougher to develop it deliberately, because if it’s deliberate it’s bc there’s something you’re having to push up against; it’s not your default. But the way our brain works at age 6 vs 30 is fundamentally the same. At age 6, he was getting that dopamine reward circuitry largely through drawing, rather than day dreaming or video games. But it’s not like if you start later in life, you’re stunted forever - You can learn to love drawing, and enjoy gaming less. It’s all just skill development, circumstance and experience. Not an innate, magical gift, intrinsic to those born lucky.
Okay, who was the best artist ever?, Go on... You have such a strong opinion that you're crying all over the comment section so please enlighten us.... I'll be waiting.
